Based Serj
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>>130791597wait...why is he mad that they recognized it? wouldn't he at least be happy about that?
>>130791635Because it took them so long and it was clearly not sincereIt's also ironic coming from a country that is currently commiting genocide
>>130791597serj is a fucking pissant
>>130791597>that piclaughed out loud at the way they phrased it
>>130791635The zionists want to set the parameters for genocide so they can continue to politicize and exploit it.
>>130791635Because they don't recognize a genocide they are committing themselves, its hypocrisy.
>>130791661this
Uh oh, what benevolent and mutually helpful plans does the Greatest Ally in store for humble Armenia?
WACKY NOISES AND VOICES
Why does he look like Zappa?
>>130791635He's Turkish
>>130793122Classically old world phenotype
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>>130794867The more you know
You're amazing benevolent arab brothers appreciate your concern, for we are 100% wholesome & nice
>>130795225Lol, the niggas forget about the Ottoman Empire, these fuckers will cut your head of & desecrate all you hold dear in a heart beat
>>130795239ottoman empire were actually quite tolerant toward christian/jew communities Tbh. they were just taxed extra.
>>130791635It's like you never heard of reputation laundering. Other anons brought up similar points.
>>130795239No, the greedy Armenians just refused to pay taxes to the people that ruled over them. Tale as old as time (and the source of half the Jewish holidays). They might believe in Jesus, but they're still the Kikes of the Caucus. It's still an essential part of Armenian descendants minds too. They're cheap as hell, all the money goes to cocaine and cologne. Serj was worth millions before System of a Down, yet he still expects his poor fans to send their money to Armenia (which he isn't really from, and the money doesn't actually benefit Armenia citizens, but that's besides the point). >WHY DO THEY ALWAYS GRIFT THE POOR?
>>130796733>Serj was worth millions before System of a Downsource?
>>130797537He started his own software company called Propriety Vertical Industry Modular Accounting Software before SOADhere's the thing; he's changed his story many times over the past couple decades. He's said he lost money, he's said he made 'peanuts' at the company, he's said he made enough to let him create music freely, and he's also said it made him his first million. The story is never quite the same. Last I checked, he's on the "it supported me enough to make music" line.I don't really give a shit where he got his money, I just don't trust rich people who constantly try to obfuscate where they got their initial bankroll. Seems super fishy. The Armenia Mafia is a thing, and SOAD came up in Glendale (HQ for the Armenian Mafia outside Armenia). There's little doubt in my mind he was in some way related to that, though not an actual gangster himself. Ethnicities like them tend to stick together. The software he made was primarily used by jewelers in California... aka ARMENIANS.
>>130797983ok and? why does all of this upset you this much? you're starting to sound like a very salty roach
>>130798068Serj is an extremely outspoken hypocrite. Noticing the fact that he constantly lies (about himself and armenia's history/current events) and is morally dubious, while holding everyone else to much higher standards, doesn't make me fucking Turkish. And that's why you should be very cautious of people like him (assuming you're not Armenian yourself). The fact that you immediately jump to HE MUST BE A TURKROACH shows you don't do much critical thinking for yourself when it comes to someone you idolize. Youve already put him on a pedestal and will not allow others to knock it around. You've fallen for the cult of personality. SOADs cool and all but Serj is a fag and you shouldn't idolize fags who don't care if you live or die. Separate the art from the artist. SOAD = GOODSERJ = BADThis guy has been lining his pockets for decades for 'war relief' that never actually makes its way to Armenians. I've already typed a retarded amount, so I won't dive deep into here, but to make it short; the biggest chunk of those relief donations go straight to Armenian crime bosses, while Serj keeps another chunk for 'administrative costs.'When someone's entire image is being a morally just person, you should trust them even less than your average nobody, especially when they spend all their free time attacking people online for not having the exact world view as then. Serj props himself up on the blood of his ancestors. Be careful, anon.
>>130798268>to someone you idolizei don't idolize him. i wouldn't even call myself a fan of SOAD. but you're right i haven't given it much thought because i really don't care that much about him or the band. even if all this supposed corruption is half true, there's much much bigger things to worry about out there. but the fact that you've fixated this hard on serj and his purported money laundering and not say, someone like our president makes me think you're a roach with a perceived chip on your shoulder (no matter how imaginary). i can't possibly think why you'd care this much about a relative small timer
israel, in its insanity, now wants to start a war with turkey as well, for some reasonthey're speedrunning to get glassed and i'm all for it, i hope the turks take back their ottoman clay
>>130798465I grew up next to an Armenian orthodox church, which also had a genocide memorial on its grounds. I used to go there a lot to take it all in, the architecture and funny looking script, and the Armenians there were very nice to me. They of course told me a lot of silly tales about their origins which got me invested in their history early onWhen SOAD came on the scene, I immediately loved them. I was excited to tell the fellas at that church about it and they all got very upset.>They're very angry people, you shouldn't listen to thisOf course over time, Serj became a name they'd all respect, as he spends 90% of his time tweeting about Armenia and raising money. I just find it funny how often people can drop their stances immediately when the same situation ends up benefiting them. This applies to any group, ethnic or otherwise, not just Armenians. But I'm autistically focused on Armenia/Serj because it was a big chunk of my younger life. Plus he blocked me after calling out totally false reports (proven false separately by Russian, EU, and US reporting) that he liked to tweet during Armenia's most recent war. So I'll just bitch about him on /mu/ every time he says something stupid publicly.As for Trump, he's Emperor Faggot, I could spend hours bemoaning he and his cabinet's shit policies and actions, but it's a music forum, so it's not the place to do so. FUN FACT; Armenians didn't really make the Armenian Holocaust a thing until after Israel became a force on the global scale. They didn't start pushing it until the 1960s, when they realized It would bring a bunch of attention, sympathy, and most importantly money to their people. They saw how Holocaust remembrance benefited Jews, and said WE GOTTA GET IN ON THAT! Weirdly this is something that was openly known until the past ten or twenty years, where they now deny such an act. But they were pretty damn open about it back in the day. I suppose the wars with Azerbaijan turned the tables a bit.
>>130791612>0:23lol wut, some guy in an ice cream sandwich freezer>>130798677Did SoaD ever play in Turkey, like Istanbul, or did their ethnicity/stance prevent invitation?
>>130798880No, I'll give credit where credit is due, they never touched foot in Turkey or Azerbaijan, the only ones who flat out deny the genocide. Curious how popular they'd be there. I'd bet lots of Turks like their music.UK, Spain, and Japan don't recognize the Armenian genocide, but SoaD has performed in those places plenty of times. I guess ignoring it is better than flat-out denying it. Come to think of it, I don't think the US even acknowledged it until Biden. But hey, SoaD openly shit on America, so it checks out.
death to america and death to israel
>>130799041Fpbp
>>130791661Doesn't this moron understand that the enemy of your enemy is a friend?
>>130791635It's a gotcha for when Turkey accuses them of doing a genocide.
>>130791635Israel didn’t recognize it for years because of their good relations with Turkey, so it’s obvious how cynical it is. Israel is also Azerbaijan’s biggest supplier of weapons as they massacre Armenians.
>>130798677all right i recant my statements about you being a roach. you sound like the person that should actually be angry about this stuff (a rare occurrence on 4chan these days) since you at the very least grew up around armenians. but still at the end of the day i think serj has done more good than bad in his life. we have to pick our battles here.>Armenians didn't really make the Armenian Holocaust a thing until after Israel became a force on the global scale. They didn't start pushing it until the 1960s, when they realized It would bring a bunch of attention, sympathy, and most importantly money to their people.and? that's not a bad thing. would you not want the atrocities your people endured to be properly remembered/recognized after spending decades being spit upon?
>>130798677>FUN FACT; Armenians didn't really make the Armenian Holocaust a thing until after Israel became a force on the global scale. They didn't start pushing it until the 1960s, when they realized It would bring a bunch of attention, sympathy, and most importantly money to their people. They saw how Holocaust remembrance benefited Armenians didn't talk about genocide before 1960s because it was literally illegal to do so (USSR leadership were simping for Turks).
I remember when I would get banned for posting a musician's political takes.
