Why is nu-gaze so shit? Wisp, Julie, Glixen, Trauma Ray, Downward, Glare. This new crop is fucking terrible and they literally all sound the same.
>>130800455no hooks
Same reasons post punk revival sucked compared to the real thing.
>>130800455They don’t know how to write music
>>130800455they don't know how to use pedals
>>130800455Everytime I see a new "shoegaze" band shilled on social media its always some wannabe hardcore band who cant make it so they put a bunch of effects on their tuneless songs amd call it shoegaze thinking nobody will notice and will be impressed by le heckin wall of sound that goes nowhere.
It's the problem of focusing on "vibes" over songwriting fundamentals. Aside from overuse of pedals, one way shoegaze musicians tend to write is by making guitar "textures" with a lot of open strings and extended harmonies. But as Joe Pass would say, this droning kind of approach to guitar puts an audience to sleep. It's too passive, too static. And then you pile on reverb and chorus for maximum soporific effect. Yeah we all loved "Dagger" the first time we heard it, but we don't need to hear 5000 duller versions of that idea.
>>130800455They're in it for Tiktok clout, not guitar effect autism
>>130800455I like trauma ray and glare but gun to my head I couldn't tell you whose songs are whose so fair point
They were the chosen ones...
>>130800675/threadnoisy shoegaze or even noise-pop blows that shit out of the water
>>130800455because you don't like american rock music
how is nu gaze inherently worse? i think these deftones hum pumpkins clones are more straightforward and enjoyable on average than the shoegaze for the sake of shoegaze bands with bloated pedalboards. https://youtu.be/gbqfOtHqjMc?
>>130800455btw few bands in the 90s approached 'shoegaze' like Kevin. bands like ride and slowdive would write actual songs on acoustic guitars before all the effects came in. shoegazers today can't into songwriting
>>130800561Emo bands do this too
>>130802976You just got filtered by real shoegaze. Keep consuming your alternative rock with reverb
>>130803023what? mbv, ride, chapterhouse and catherine wheel are among my favorite bands. japanese bands too. but the modern stuff clearly sucks so I'd rather have them continue the american alt rock sound instead of tedious reverb fests.
digitally-recorded rock sucks out of the box if you don't know how to fight it. and there are no limitations that allow you to make a coherent thing. few people get creative if they have an abundance of pedals and software available. bands in the 90s had one amp, 2-3 pedals, 1-2 multi effects and maybe one synthesizer.
>>130800455Was going to watch Nothing and Deafheaven this weekend but Nicky money had his Australian visa application declined again.
https://youtu.be/99Qta0MisCs2010 Australian Heavy Psych/Noise Rock/ShoegazeI think the secret to soigaze is to be psych-rock, see FSA, Telescopes, and Bardo Pond
