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Why are some people trying so hard to convince themselves that no good music has come out since the 80s/90s?
The closer they feel to enjoying a modern song, the harder they will hate on it as to convince themselves that they didn't accidentally vibe along with it for a second.
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When i was a kid there was musical variety, like actual diversity. Yeah you had garbage like lil wayne and britney spears, but you could be a hipster, or emo, or punk, or metal head, and you had bands to listen to.

Nowadays you get nothing, your choices are taylor swift, or benson boon, or lil mumbles negroid.

and nothing new is ever made, when you post a zoomer band, its like i can hear everything they ripped off, or they are shoegze garage revival revival, they revived a revival.

face the facts, music and most everything went to shit around 2007-2008
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>>130804763
Have you tried turning off the radio and actually searching for music?

You sound just like that dumbass Beato who thinks that music has gone to shit because there's nothing good on the billboard charts.
Radio and TV have optimised and fine-tuned their song choices with retards in mind because retards (like you) will never leave their platforms in search of something better, making them the ideal market.

If you want variety you go into the internet.
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>>130804939
>come to /moo/
>they don't talk about anything new other than pop slop
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>>130804732
The golden age of music was 2001-2006 as far as I'm concerned, the silver age was the 70s, the bronze was the rest 60s/80s/90s/10s, we're now in the age of shit.
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>>130805039
>The golden age of music was 2001-2006 as far as I'm concerned

nah dude nah

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_2003
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>>130804732
>>130804939
can you link a good song that came out in 2026?
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>>130808243
Can you? (if the answer is no that means you don't even listen to any new music which is exactly why you may think there isn't anything good)
https://youtu.be/4rq0D2Dzewo
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>>130808340
I can only link bad songs that came out this year
https://youtu.be/4rq0D2Dzewo
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>>130808396
pretty low effort bait
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>>130808243
Manring just dropped an album with Al Garcia and you think there's no good music?
The issue is solely on your limited taste. Unless you guys specifically mean chart-topping hits, in which case that's a silly metric to judge all music. Decent to judge the culture at certain periods, though. But /mu/ only concerning themselves with Billboard hits is ridiculous.
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>>130808340
No dog in this fight but is that seriously the fucking song you chose to highlight good music in 2026? Brutal
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>>130804763
you need to look harder
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yes there is a lot of wonderful and unique music still coming out it's a blessing
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>>130808424
Fucking dire. Leaving aside the shitty production the album has pretty unpleasant melodies. Obviously talented musicians but the music here is totally forgettable
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>>130808825
I think it's great, personally. The problem with people asking for "good music in 2026" is that no one else has any idea of what you mean by good. The fact that you aren't able to find anything yourself means that you don't even have the taste to appreciate anything beyond what you already like. We have no baseline of what is "good" to you.
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>>130804763
>When i was a kid there was musical variety, like actual diversity. Yeah you had garbage like lil wayne and britney spears, but you could be a hipster, or emo, or punk, or metal head, and you had bands to listen to.
Listen I don't particularly think the 2020s are inspired musically, and there are reasons for that, but this is 100% wrong. Every single genre you mentioned outside of pop music or the mainstream is still cranking out records like the zombies they are. Some of them are very faithful to particular periods, some have pretty good songs here and there, and the occasional good record. If you're dying for more metal or emo or punk, you can easily find stuff that's more or less satisfying.
>face the facts, music and most everything went to shit around 2007-2008
Later than that. Scenes were still somewhat living in the 2010s. It's really since the 2020s that the problems present since the 2000s started to accelerate exponentially. The problem is not easily solvable but the thing you're saying is wrong
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>>130808871
Again, no dog in this fight but the meaning is pretty obvious if implicit. Good means an obvious signal in the genre it participates in - that signal doesn't necessarily mean popular either. If you can easily make a case that the music is or will be important to the genre, then that's a good place to begin. If you like what you posted, that's something else, but to my ears it's obviously nothing - a throwaway on an album that has no impact anywhere on its own except preferentially to someone who may hear it. But the same could be said of literally any song.
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>>130808886
Right but I could and do disagree with you on all those points. Everything you're referring to is subjective. I would rather you people share examples of what you like first so we aren't just shouting into a void. It's easy for people to ask for good music in 2026 and then give it a half listen and call it boring. It's much more effort for the ones who are going out and listening to all of it to find what they actually personally enjoy
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>>130808904
I'm not very interested in the problems you have with proofs. There is definitely good music in 2026 - just much less of it compared to previous eras, alongside other, bigger problems that can't be ignored anymore. The problem is that music's purpose is different now than it was for the vast majority of people's lives and understanding of music since the middle 20th century. That change is causing problems for people who aren't yet ancient
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>>130808929
>alongside other, bigger problems that can't be ignored anymore

ie. zoomers have nonfunctional microplastic-filled dicks
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>>130808929
>I'm not very interested in the problems you have with proofs.
to be fair I don't think you are the one who asked for "proof" but you should be interested in the problems because you're the one who bothered to listen to it and use it to comment on the state of music in 2026. I'm not interested in sharing music with idiots who just want to complain about everything. If you aren't going to share anything you actually like then in my opinion you aren't readily engaging in the actual discussion and at that point are just a detractor. Something that stands out to me could come off as completely mediocre to someone else, that's the nature of music. At the very least I need somewhere to jump off from to even attempt to come up with some sort of "proof" (not that music needs to be proven to anyone, much less people who don't actually care to listen).
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>>130808969
I'm not interested in discussions about music that reduce to music being completely subjective. If that's true you're either singing to the choir or engaging in totally pointless argument. There are reasons we agree something does or doesn't belong to a genre, what makes it good, what the boundaries are and what happens when they're pressed or pushed, and so on. The idea that anything can be good to anyone is irrelevant to me and in general.
>If you aren't going to share anything you actually like then in my opinion you aren't readily engaging in the actual discussion
If the discussion is someone saying they think music is bad now and the conversation turns to two people sharing things they like because they like them, that's a waste of everyone's time and why I don't care about the problems of proofs. Yes, both people should be more specific about what genres they like. Some genres right now are completely dead weight and others are doing pretty well (or doing well again). The genres that are dead weight aren't necessarily those which aren't producing songs people like but rather which aren't really doing anything new anymore, just repeating old tropes with new production. You might like it but it doesn't mean the genre is doing well. I can list a bunch of shit from 2026 in those dead weight genres that I like - but they have little or no value to the genre as a whole. And so on.
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>>130809111
you and I have very different opinions on music. I think, even in any aspect at all, reducing music to the "value" it brings to a genre is beyond awful. The value it brings is to the arists and listeners and the connection between them. Sure there can be something to be said for having *some* sort of objectivity but I really dislike those who take it too far, especially when they think that their objectivity is somehow more objective than anyone else's. So I guess there's not point in continuing here since even after all this you haven't even shared anything you like
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>>130809147
Who gives a fuck what I like? I never asked you to share anything in the first place. But okay, here's a new (live) album that I think is excellent but which has no impact at all on the genre so isn't important. And if live albums "don't count" then I can name something else in this category - or I can name something in the category of albums that are new and also important for the genre, which is to say good on top of being something I like. But who gives a fuck? I don't really care who does or doesn't like it. Either way consider your little request fulfilled.
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>>130809202
??? what's you're problem lmao. The whole point was for you to share something so I could get a better taste of what you might find good and then try and share that. If you aren't interested in that then just say so instead of going off about objectivity and all that. And if you aren't interested in sharing music then why are you bothering to respond to the posts that do share music?? If you want to discuss the state of music then there are better people to do it with.
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>>130809111
>Some genres right now are completely dead weight
such as...?
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>>130809248
The one that comes immediately to mind is country, which is one of my most loved genres. I listen to many, many styles and periods (and have for decades), even into the 2010s, but I think nothing at all is happening in it and there's no clear indication that it will (but I'm very familiar with how popular it is in and around pop music). The only thing that I think inches a little close is Ryan Davis' newer band but frankly doesn't quite get there - but I like it.
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>>130804732
I'm 33 years old but rarely listen to any music past about 1975

The only newer music I like is either stuff by legacy artists (Bob Dylan, Neil Young, etc.), or music that deliberately tries to sound older than it is (neo-rockabilly, garage rock revival, etc.)

Sometimes I wish I liked newer music so I could discuss favourites and recent discoveries with people my age, but it is what it is
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>>130809345
what about radiohead and duster?
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>>130809956
A friend got me to listen to Radiohead's entire discography and the only song I remotely liked was Creep, and even that one I could live without

I'm checking out a couple Duster songs now and they seem a bit better, but still don't touch my soul
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>>130810017
those are my favorite relatively modern bands but to be honest i still feel something missing. and i'm way younger than you. 1975 is about my cut off too.
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>>130804732
My favorite genres are smooth jazz, disco and baroque chamber music, especially with the harpsichord (Well Tempered Klavier by Bach and Scarlatti for example). The biggest issue with modern smooth jazz is that even by 1990, the fusion elements were being ironed out and smooth jazz became codified on an almost academic level. Even the label smooth jazz has stifled the creativity of the genre which is better interpreted as contemporary jazz. Kenny G's decline from hot, hip dance tunes in 85 to soporific lullabies in 92 show the general trajectory of most artists.

Then there's disco which barely exists in its classic form. Even space disco isn't made anymore. Where are the orchestras? Sure there are elements, motifs, and throwbacks but nothing made today actually sounds like Alec Costandinos or Cerrone. In fact what is often labeled as disco like Dua Lipa or Lady Gaga sounds like generic electronic pop from the last 30 years. It's funny seeing anons complain that music died in the 2000s when pop has been the same for 30-35 years. One just has slightly more autotune.

As for baroque, who is composing and recording original compositions on par with Bach and Scarlatti? At least in the 60s there was a feeble attempt to merge pop with baroque elements but no one tries and when they do it still somehow just sounds like generic Youtuber traveling music for hipsters. Where are the bands like The Left Banke or Vanity Fare?
>>130808904
>It's much more effort for the ones who are going out and listening to all of it to find what they actually personally enjoy
Why should I spend my limited time in life digging through the dumpster for half-eaten meals when there are exquisite five course dinners waiting for me to enjoy before I was born?
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>>130810085
>Then there's disco which barely exists in its classic form. Even space disco isn't made anymore. Where are the orchestras? Sure there are elements, motifs, and throwbacks but nothing made today actually sounds like Alec Costandinos or Cerrone. In fact what is often labeled as disco like Dua Lipa or Lady Gaga sounds like generic electronic pop from the last 30 years.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dangerous_Woman#Credits_and_personnel
they still use all that malarkey, it's just mastered in such a way to sound completely synthetic
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>>130804939
Everything anybody has ever shown me that was supposed to be good and new has been shit
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>>130810332
sounds like a you problem
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>>130804763
>Yeah you had garbage like lil wayne and britney spears
Neither were garbage, though.
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>>130804732
You can still find good music on Bandcamp etc. But there's no more mainstream good music, because it's all mastered for phone speakers/cars, not big home stereos like it used to be.
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>>130814297
>But there's no more mainstream good music, because it's all mastered for phone speakers/cars
it never wasn't that way, dumbass. this is what you were listening to the Beatles on in 65.
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>>130814332
I'm talking about 80s/90s music. Obviously 60s music sounds like crap.
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>>130804763
>you could be a hipster, or emo, or punk, or metal head, and you had bands to listen to.
>Nowadays you get nothing, your choices are taylor swift, or benson boon, or lil mumbles negroid.
True
>music has gone to shit because there's nothing good on the billboard charts
True
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>>130814622
no it fucking doesnt kill yourself.
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>>130804732
arrested development
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>>130814622
>Obviously 60s music sounds like crap.
that depends. LPs made for the adult audience had hi fi sound and were tech demos to show off your stereo equipment. singles were typically not as hi fi though.
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I mostly listen to 60s to 90s music sometimes older sometimes newer but I never am one of those "there's nothing good anymore" guys. In the early 2000s though you could go out every night and see some good underground live music that has kind of faded.
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>>130814727
Rock was generally not super-well recorded until the mid-70s.
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>>130804732
I don't have to try hard at all to be convinced of that
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>>130804732
Social media has turned the majority of new artists into inauthentic losers with no self respect who whore themselves on the internet and you can feel it in their music.
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>>130804732
well can you give some recent tracks that are good
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>>130814622
>80s/90s music
so on a shitty cassette player?
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>>130804732
It's hard to find good new things, it takes a time investment and you have to be willing to sift through a lot of garbage. It is easier to just say "new music sucks". That's why I say new games suck. Like I know there actually are some good ones I'm just not going to take a chance on them
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>>130805039
>The golden age of music was 2001-2006
hey dumbfuck. the world existed before 1945.
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>>130818841
emphasis on
>as far as he's concerned
he's right cause he's him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2MBxYTUQWY



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