I've been reading some posts about the Rolling Stones and Brian Jones on archives, and I always see a bunch of anons saying that the Rolling Stones died with Brian Jones, that the band was never the same after he left, and so on.How true is that? Aside from founding the band, what was Brian Jones’ actual importance to the Rolling Stones?
>>130804945Check the lyrics of "Godstar" by Psychic TV for a tl;dr on Brian Jones.
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>>130804945I say it's bs since their best stuff is from the 70s
>>130804945the internet is very divided on this.one side of the aisle maintains that brian's contributions to the stones were negligible. they say that he was integral to getting the band signed, as well as being a somewhat competent multi-instrumentalist, but that's about it.the other side's claim is that he was the main creative force, or drive, behind the bands' output in the mid sixties. i've seen less evidence for this claim, considering that he had virtually zero songwriting credits (to my knowledge) and, on the contrary, there's more evidence to suggest that he was destructive in the studio due to his addictions.i think that two things can be true at the same time in regards to how brian jones was treated. you could say that his firing was harsh and could have been handled way better than it was, but also we have to acknowledge that he was a very troubled individual & that tragic deaths have a tendency to make people reassess history with a heavily biased lens in favour of the deceased.
>>130804945he was the only one who led an actual rockstar lifestyle in a band filled with middle class posers
>>130804945Jones was not the secret creative genius as some claim. However, his tenure in the band was concurrent with their best work, so it is a good shorthand to it as the "Brian Jones" era.
>>130804945I think it’s pretty obvious by this point that Mick and Keith made a pact with the devil and killing Brian was the sacrifice.
>>130809826Or maybe he was just a junkie with a history of erratic behavior who died like a dumbass. Many such cases.
>>130807538Like what? Jumping Jack Flash? Satisfaction? Gimme Shelter?
>>130804945I think the fact that he wasn’t credited as a songwriter on any of their songs and had already been overshadowed by Mick and Keith in his own band by 1964 tells you everything you need to know about how important he really was
>>130804945people only knows about brian jones because he was attractive and simply died at the age of 27. what a hack
Brian had an odd aura, that is undeniable. Weirdos for decades have been fascinated by and projected themselves into him. He's like all the weird/forgotten/unique things about the '60s rolled into one guy. In his time he was considered the coolest of the cool, a lot of kids, a lot of his peers even, wanted to be him. Dylan wanted to be Brian in his electric period and named Blonde on Blonde after him and Anita (later paid for Brian's bronze casket), Jim Morrison wanted to be Brian, even had a shrine to him (also wrote an eulogy to him when he passed), Dave Davies wanted to be Brian and even became friends (and lover at one point) with him. But the truth is for all his panache it simply made him lose interest in the music and he just wanted to live like a bon vivant drug addict. The Kinks' Dandy was written about him. Brian not so secretly wished to be a songwriter, to contribute more, but he was an asshole and Mick and Keith bullied him to bits because of it, Keith specifically had it really out for him because of how manipulative Brian always tried to be around him, so Keith stole Anita from him in Morocco, and Anita was the love of Brian's life on another level. That was what finally broke him and he just became less of a person every single day after the fact, made even worse that Keith impregnated her.Let's put it like this, Jagger was the kinetic body of the Stones, Keith is the plundered soul, Brian was it's broken heart. When Brian was gone, they lost the weight of him and improved their craft, but the band were now heartless bastards. It's only rock & rollhttps://youtu.be/gbwFKZYfKt8
>>130804945Brian definitely the stone mostly likely to cosplay as winnie the pooh or something
>>130804945Fucking hell they were ugly
He was the Syd Barrett of The Rolling Stones. Silly man they were ultimately weighed down by.
>>130818132What? Syd wrote 90% of their songs until 67. Are you retarded?
>>130804985came here to post this
brian jones’s town massacre
>>130818845cool bit of trivia: did you know that band was named after Brian Jones of the Rolling Stones?
>>130806539>i've seen less evidence for this claim, considering that he had virtually zero songwriting creditsBrian’s diverse musical interests and instrumentalism was a very big factor in what made the Stones an innovative force to rival the Beatles. Mick and Keith wrote great songs but they were never very naturally ambitious. They needed Brian’s eclecticism and Andrew Oldham’s firm guidance to do great work, because once both of them were gone it was like the band just lost any sense of distinction or momentum and just froze on one sound and one style.
Stones stopped having psychedelic sound after he died and just became a blues rock until mid 70s when they adopted RnB and Disco sound
>>130819149they stopped that before he died. jumpin jack flash onwards was them going "back to basics".
>>130819208Maybe not after he died but after Majesties Request you could feel how disengaged he was to the sound building Stones did and then he died
>>130813775>Keith stole Anita from him in Morocco, and Anita was the love of Brian's life on another level.maybe brian shouldn't have beat the shit out of her so much
