AMERICA FUCK YEAH editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q-9P0Y0e2sWhat is Progressive Rock?>https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/>>https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#definitionGood albums to start with?>https://www.musicgenretree.org/essential_prog.pngObscure prog gems>https://rateyourmusic.com/list/antonbildern/a-secret-society-obscure-progressive-rock-albums/Previous (Full) Thread: https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/130713459 (actual last thread was an embarrassing flop lol)
>>130818303Closure/Continuation disappointed me. Just me? Or others?
Wasn't this an anti-American song?
I'm 30ish, and this is my favorite music genre. But when I've said 'prog' a couple of times, I've had some Gen X-ers scoff and turn up their nose. Is this a thing? Or was it isolated assholes? I don't mind saying 'progressive rock' to avoid being the nail that gets hammered down, but I'm just curious.
>>130818303https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGWzMSLXFj4
>>130818398Prog was the coolest music in the world for like 3 years, then it was the most uncool music in the world for 30 years, and now it's sort of cool again.
>>130818406no, I mean they specifically hated the work 'prog', like I wasn't giving respect to the name that was 'progressive rock'. They were like, 'don't call it prog', and treated me like a normalfag.
>>130818406>now it's sort of cool again.i assume you mean amongst ages 12-20, no one my age likes this stuff
I don't know which I like more, Wish You Were Here, or MeddleAs an album, I like Wish You Were Here better, but Meddle has Echoes and a track that features a dog as a guest vocalist. So I don't know.
>>130818446There actually was a few recorded cases in the 80s of some progressive rock musicians hating being called "prog" and making a distinction between progressive rock and "prog". Notably Ian Anderson.Apparently some people used "prog" shorthand derogatively to refer to the extremely campy, overblown, bombastic progressive rock that was ultimately meaningless self-indulgence.
>>130818780>80s70s***
>>130818780huh. I mean that is an explanation, but I don't know if culturally that is normal among the demographic, or is it? The dude that gave me issue was in a used record shop, I don't know if he worked there or not (I think he did, because I saw him there every time I was there). He was like 45ish. So not alive during the 70s.Regardless, before I really dived into prog/ressive rock, it felt like there was a pretentiousness to it. That may have been just me though. I'm glad I explored different artists in the genre, and want to experience more. >>130818456zoomers listening to progressive rock? I don't believe it. What age are you? You know, vaguely, if you're comfortable sharing.
>>130818952nta but i'm 20 and i listen to prog (less than i used to) and know other people my age who are hardcore into it.
>>130818303KANSAS STATVS: ACKNOWLEGED
>>130819157huh. pretty based I guess. I had to sift through some shit to find what I liked. So you could certainly do worse.I guess the question then becomes whether you can really truly experience an album without droping acid first.
Well, that settles it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JKw6d-DViM just found out about this lad
>>130818446Weird. I've always liked the term "prog" more than "progressive rock." Prog is so much more encompassing and includes stuff like Mike Oldfield and Robert Wyatt which I don't think fall into the "rock" aspect of progressive rock.
>>130822669I like 'prog', for the fewer syllables and also to include Porcupine Tree, which I don't know if critics or Wilson categorized as 'progressive metal'. I just know it's filed under the progressive music/psychedelic boxes at my local used record shop.
>>130822669>"I still like the original term that comes from 1969: progressive rock – but that was with a small "p" and a small "r". Prog Rock, on the other hand, has different connotations – of grandeur and pomposity [...] I think looking back on it that most of it was a pretty good experience for musicians and listeners alike. Some of it was a little bit overblown, but in the case of much of the music, it was absolutely spot on."
anyone else think progressive music is kinda more or less it's own genre. if you listen more carefully, prog rock has more in common with prog metal or prog trance than it does with hard rock or arena rock.
>>130824127Well yeah, for fewer syllables as well.
CYGNUS I or II?
>>130826308Both
Listenan
>>130826308I
>>130818303Why is it SO GODDAMN GOOD?
>>130826308III is far too repetitive.
>>130827508Underrated album. Peak ELO.>>130826308Neither.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnw7Hi6iIKE>>130822593Not sure if Pascoal is /prog/ but check out his miniature compositions from Miles Davis' LIVE EVIL album. Great stuff.
>>130818456I'm 24 and my friends all still listen to prog. Prog does have a lot of older fans. When I saw King Crimson in NYC back in 2019, the whole room looked like a retiring house, but there were some younger folks in the audience.
>>130831368Also, I should mention that the prog's popularity in the late 2010s, early 2020s is largely attributed to JoJo's autismo fans. Few of the people are graduating beyond Yes' and King Crimson's most popular tracks.
Is there anything I should avoid from Mike Oldfield or is it all pretty good?
>>130827508Better than Time? I've only heard out of the blue and time
>>130831368>in nycHEY I'M EPITAPHING HERE
>>130831455Go on prog archives and listen by rating. Amarok is divisive. Everything else is accessible and pretty universally loved.
>>130831455I should add that I have played Ommadawn and Return to Ommadawn to non-proggers and both were well received.
>>130831376Pat Metheny too https://youtu.be/Tb6h7rjRAYs
>>130831455https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7DRHhHi7E0 listen to this and come back
>>130831458Time used to be my favorite, I'd say it absolutely is better than Time.Extremely strong melodies and songs that flow into one another seamlessly. This was before ELO started going for shorter poppier songs, so I'd say it's the proggiest ELO ever washttps://youtu.be/atOsiuv1Pjk?si=JfH8Qrg6lNSBqCdK
>>130831376Literally the only good thing anime ever did.
>>130831460GOOD MORNING, IT'S 3 A.M. IN THIS GREAT, ROARING CITYFULL OF GARBAGE EATERS RAVAGING PARKING SPOTS
Will BEAT ever tour America again?
>>130831773two words:kino
Redpill me on Gentle Giant.
tubular smells
>>130833746Mushroom cocks
>>130831368I don't exactly consider 24 to be "older" per se, sport
>>130833746They have a funny looking mascot
>>130833746One of the few progressive bands out there.
>>130833922By older, I mean near retirement age. There were a few millennials and zoomers in the audience, but they weren't the majority.
I stan this album
>>130835108this is like an even shittier version of the moody blues. i can't believe you don't just have an obscure/1960's date fetish.
>>130835257Noel Gallagher also stans FGTR, which is either a credit or a liability depending on your personal taste.
>>130835282i bet it was something he heard very early on and has an emotional attachment to it. it's just not good at all
>>130818406>now it's sort of cool againIs it really? I've seen some younger people get into Pink Floyd recently but they only scratch the tip of the iceberg, and if you are talking about Tool, The Mars Volta, Opeth and PT, I don't consider those actually prog, they have more in common with american nu metal bands than early King Crimson or early Genesis
>>130835298I think he was just looking for anything Genesis to enjoy that wasn't prog rock and also wasn't related to Phil Collins.
>>130835379understandable
>>130831773Is this supposed to be bad? This was fucking awesome, although his singing is a bit mumbly compared to something like On Horseback
>>130836114underrated as heck in their discog, based anon
>the boy raping child kidnapping aids spreading shit smearing gangbanging health food faggotWTF how did they get away with this
>>130836556it was a meme but the album ended up being my most listened Oldfield's albumthe 19-minute track closer of this is just shitposting though
oh and this album also contains this lyric
>>130836853What did he mean by this
>>130836857he was dissing his label apparently, his next album was with a different label. apparently it stemmed from the time virgin preferred Amarok to be titled Tubular Bells 2
>>130836838>it was a meme but the album ended up being my most listened Oldfield's albumThat's insane
>>130836567The same way Jethro Tull got away with singing about a homeless drunken sex pest.
>>130836114I stan this album
>>130836114>has a track called stagnation>nothing happensBRAVOABRIEL
Praguehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6MBuJkKEig
AND IT'S
>>130843800>tfw you just ate supper and it won't be ready for another 24 hours
>the pungent - a brap in the night
>Collins recalled spotting Hackett on the street while on his way to the studio and offered him a lift, but Hackett declined. Hackett later said that if he had got in the car, Collins would have been the one person to make him reconsider."Get in, anon. We have to talk."
Send me to DR Congo I'm free to leaveThere's always somewhere anybody can leadSend me to DR Congo you have to believeYou can do it if you want to just do what you please
Listened to Supper's Ready after a while today.It seems each time I listen to it, it gets by faster and faster. I remember when I first listened to it it seemed like it was soooo long. Now it's like, just when I'm really really getting into it it's already THE SUPPER OF THE MIGHTY ONEEEEEExcellent piece, I love it more and more each time
>>130846382I feel the same way. The first half before willow farm always seemed to take so long getting started, but now it seems to flow so naturally that you don't even notice that 10 minutes just went by.
Is there an extended version of this version on a Mike album, or is this special for this concert?https://youtu.be/sSRJvq4Wd48
>>130846382That's how most things go. There's novelty and you have no idea what direction it's going to go. Eventually you become familiar with it. It's the same as driving somewhere new. Humans are bombarded with an infinite amount of information every second. We are very good at filtering out and using shortcuts to process that information in an efficient manner.
>>130847678It's the last two songs off Tubular Bells 3. Don't get your hopes up; that's by far the highlight of the album. The rest is still worth a listen tho.
Is it prog?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skrW7blHhdo
Just copped today
HEEEEAVENS OPEEEN
>>130818780Yeah thank god we don't have meaningless self-indulgent music nowadays
What's the last new (to you) album you listened to? What were your thoughts on it?For me, it's Discovery by Mike Oldfield. Despite not particularly like it, "To France" got stuck in my head, and "The Lake" is a great instrumental. The rest is forgettable.
>>130853464i listened to the new muse album
>>130853510thoughts?
>>130853644past the 1st track it's not good
>>130853464I listened to Thick as a Brick and I THINK JETHRO TULL SUCKS
>>130853674sad
>>130818331It certainly gave us Closure, at least>>130826308book 1 every time>>130831458Twilight is amazing but Time is otherwise pretty weak by ELO standards imho
>>130818303only posting here because kansas is cool, thanks op
>>130849727>invents neoclassical speed metal in 1968what the fuck
stopping by real quick to save this thread. Is /prog/ worth saving?
>>130835308>I don't consider those actually prog, they have more in common with american nu metal bands than early King CrimsonYou are dumb
New Hackett interview droppedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HS5uUx94_qk
>>130835308You know that Porcupine Tree originally started as a psychedelic band and started making hard rock later
>>130858303These threads have been chugging along with very little real discussion. Just anons dropping in to ask a question or make a statement in a vacuum unconnected to anything else and nobody is interested in engaging. That's really how generals die.
>release a song in 4/4 >fans freak out and disavowinsufferable nerds...
>>130858638Okay, let's start a discussion. What are some modern prog acts that don't regurgitate the classic prog sound but have a very identifiable prog DNA? Think betcover!! and black midi (yes, they're prog). Nobody can listen to John L. and say that it's not prog, I won't believe them.
First time poster. What do we think of king gizzard around here? Polygondwanaland is one of my favorite prog rock albums around. It’s weird seeing them do techno now but at least they’re trying new stuff.
>>130859352They've always been known to experiment with a bunch of different genres. And yes, Polygondawanaland is top tier Gizzard, along with Flying Microtonal Banana.
>>130859408[spoiler]FMB is prog??[/spoiler] I just figured the bluegrass album was more likely to come out before the second techno album but here we are! I hope alien metal is better than the silver cord. On a different note, I’m not sure if the mars volta classifies as prog rock anymore, but it’s such a fucking shame too because de loused in the comatorium is a masterpiece and they barely matched it on their next three albums. What do you prog kids listen to these days?
>>130859352>le lofi intentionally shitty recording melbourne wearing a dressFuck off
Besides Camel, are there other prog bands named after tobacco products?
>>130859151Pure Reason Revolution
>>130859151I hope the Greepster drops this year
>>130861491Don Caballero
>>130859151Does The Mars Volta count as modern?
>>130853464Van der Graaf Generator's last album, Do Not Disturb. Pretty good send off, minus the bonus tracks which completely kill the flow. Not a great album, probably just good at best but it being an emotional farewell, being a full stop, elevates it.
>>130851867haven't listened to that Moody Blues album yet, does it sound like how the cover looks?
Thoughts on the upcoming Lamb ultra mega HD remaster?Seems both PG and Banks are "supervising", whatever that means
>>130861005I don’t understand half of your greentext but ok
>>130863613It came out last year
>>130863262Yup.
>>130835108Thank you for enjoying my album.
you now remember the album steven wilson shat out last year
>>130864122I stopped giving a shit after the incident and I don’t know anyone who would prefer his solo shit to that bygone era
i like the ambience in the first 30 seconds and last 40 seconds of Ice Age by Ambrosiahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oET_EJIIfQU
>>130864192DUDE
>>130859151>modern prog acts that don't regurgitate the classic prog sound>black midi They sound like king crimson and henry cow to me. If they weren't part of the windmill scene, their albums would have the same number of ratings on rateyourmusic as other obscure modern prog groups like Syd Arthur and The Boot Lagoon.
>>130831455Albums I've only listened to once and never touched again:>QE2>The Killing Fields>Islands>Earth Moving>Heaven's Open>Tres Lunas>Light + ShadeThere are others that are considered not good, but still contain some bangers, so I wouldn't recommend avoiding them.
>>130853674As usual then
>>130864122I never cared for his music, so no, I don't remember that album.
>>130864227Sure, there's a distinctive King Crimson sound to their work, but they do put their own twist on their music. I'd even argue that there's a noise rock/prog fusion in most of their work.
Naked City is proghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7yB4wcOoy4
>>130868612More like Naked SHITTYOh wait, that's just GG Allin
>>130864122>>130864149>>130866348His solo albums up to Hand Cannot Erase were all fantasticBut The Overview is his most forgettable one by far
>>130870131Reductive.
>>130866422>but they do put their own twist on their musicevery time someone says this I feel like they're just trying to say something nice about an obviously derivative band
It's funny how hipsters like Fantano will shit on some stuff by Steven Wilson for being derivative of King Crimson and then praise black midi
>>130853464Just istened to Phideaux's new album, it wasn't very good
>>130870306black midi is actually good
>>130870920Hipster spotted
Why does /mu/ hate Steven Wilson now? Is it because he is a Zionist?
>>130870933cry moar
>>130870942>don't like his music>don't like his politics>don't like his remixes of classic albums>any number of other trivializing memesTake your pick. He's done something to piss off every kind of prog fan.
>>130871078And yet he has done more than anyone else in 30 years to keep prog relevant
>>130871100But was it a good thing
>>130871144He got a lot of younger people into prog at least And he still did way better music than Tool, Dream Theater or all those modern symphonic bands
I used to be obsessed with Steven Wilson but haven't listened to him in years since he did that pop album
I tried listening to The Raven That Refused to Sing, the one that everyone seems to love, and it just sounded like all climax and no buildup.
>>130871337Drive Home has a great build up to the solo
based or cringe?
>>130871557Neither. It's a fine album. If anybody other than King Crimson made it in 1995, it would be considered a top 10 prog album from the 90s.
>>130870942because I love my xbox
Eastern Orthodox Prog?
>>130872078
Buddhist prog?
>>130872723Procol Harum - In Held 'Twas in Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unLKgu1-v_8or the Transatlantic coverhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2smecZc_SVM
Hindu prog?
>>130873356https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZFXsF87-iI
Where do I start with prog-era Genesis? I've only heard pop-Genesis
>>130873622I would just say start with Trespass and go from there, but if you want a more immediate first impression then Nursery Cryme or Selling England are good starting points.
Been listening to The Odyssey a lot lately and it's weird to know we'll never get a properly orchestrated version of this song. All things considered, Symphony X has to be one of the least "realized" bands there's ever been - this is just another example of it.
>>130871557Based. It’s one of KC’s best imo. The guitars are amazing, belew’s singing is way better than on the later albums, the double drummer setup is really cool (B’Boom is one of my favorites, 8 hits in a 7/4 rhythm). The melodies work so well, and THRAK’s violent guitar sound fits the album so wellI feel that TPTB needed some of that electric guitar sound in its songs, especially Dangerous Curves. Bruford and Levin leaving clearly gutted the band creatively
>>130863262that record has a particular sound to it, it's very up in the clouds. They knew exactly what they were doing and the artist Phil Travers really did it justice when he thought up of that. That's also my favorite 60s album even though it's not really prog>>130871557It's one of their more all-over-the-place records. Definitely needed to be trimmed down. Walking on Air, Dinosaur, People, and One Time are some of their very best songs, but there's also a bunch of embarrassing failed experiments on there that don't really match up. Would be 10/10 if it was ~38 minutes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFEaIgMkR_0 this is prog btw look at this chord progression https://ja.chordwiki.org/wiki/%E5%88%9D%E9%9F%B3%E3%83%9F%E3%82%AF%E3%81%AE%E6%BF%80%E5%94%B1
>>130874946It's such an uncanny album cover. It almost looks AI despite it obviously being a real painting.
>>130871557it's good but just like other belew crimson records, i simply do not give a shit to some of the instrumental songs especially fripp's soundscaping
>>130871557Good songs but full of filler. I pretend Three of a Perfect Pair is the final KC record.
>>130876843>real painting>is a photograph
>>130874946>needed to be trimmed downCan’t really think of anything to trim down except the Inner garden and Radio interludes. I think the VROOOM parts are some of the best instrumental work KC has done since Discipline. B’Boom into THRAK is also a really good matchup
>>130878539>c'est ne pas un pepe
>>130878746really don't care for B'Boom/THRAK, I wouldn't mind if that was kept off. and VROOOM VROOOM Coda is sort of a crappy ending, should've just ended with Walking on Air instead. I think Inner Garden should probably stay on the album combined into one 3-minute song. It's not bad at all but it being broken up like that just kills the momentum. and yeah radio sucks
>>130878539I was talking about the Moody Blues album
>>130834359it will always be funny to me how literally everyone in that band went bald as a baby, except the "main" vocalist. also R.I.P. Ray Shulman, best song of theirs is Mr. Class and Quality?
>>130839310>sitting on a penis>BAM. BAM BAM. >eyeing little girls with bad intent
got any recs for any recent prog albums? only ones I know are bands like Soft Ffog, Shamblemaths and Wobbler
>>130862317>The Mars VoltaI think the're old enough to be considered retro. Frances the Mute is over 20 years old
>>130818303You know Song for America isn't a patriotic song, right?
>>130881800oh my science where's your heckin media literacy
>>130881932What?
>>130882365>>130881800
>>130818456Ok unc
>>130881800>>130881800I needed a prog song about America that wasn't Yes' Simon and Garfunkel cover
>Yes just came out with ANOTHER albumWhen will Steve fucking retire?
>>130882549Didn't them niggas die?They never topped Time and A Word anyway
Guys Tarkus bit me and its really swollen what should I do. I don't think he meant to I just stroked his belly and he got overstimulated.
The first time I listened to Tarkus I was on a train ride and had a fever, and genuinely felt confused
>>130882576The first time I listened to Tarkus I was high as fuck on edibles and I literally transcended to a different plane of existence, by the time I got to Battlefield I was in a weird dream-like trance
>>130882576When I listened to Aquatarkus on Welcome Back My Friends, I literally felt like I was floating, very weird sensation.
>>130881023Did you listen to Big Big Train?
>>130883578more like big big SHIT
Keith Emerson killed himself because he could no longer play his keys the way he wanted it to be purely because he spent his whole playing career torturing every part of his hands. dude really had no concept of playing soft, even accomplished pianists like wakeman and tony banks stopped playing aggressively as they aged.
>>130886178based. he was a pianist first and foremost. live fast and die young i always say.
>>130886178Playing hard and loud and fast was his whole shtick. It’s what people expected. I think he felt he owed it to fans to remain the wild man of the keys.
>>130886178Wiki said it was before some shows in Japan. It's too bad they didn't just decide to not just stop touring altogether. Dude was 71, nobody should be expecting him to perform like he did in his 20s/30s/40s.
The sign is a subtle joke...
>>130887261>Wiki said it was before some shows in Japan.Well I'm sure this didn't disappoint his fans
>>130886178still not the stupidest suicide in prog
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abc9JePDZMk
>>130887640>Actual last words were “what do you think I’m gonna do? shoot myself in the head?”absolute cinema
the best Canterbury scene album of the 80s imho fammhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_6jmqEVQ8k
>>130887454Metallica actually did something like this.
Based broof delivers againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wb_0p9kgcQ
