I think we can now safely say he was the most popular rock star to ever exist in terms of legacy>But Elvis or LennonZoomers aren't wearing Elvis T shirts and The Beatles aren't even as popular with them as Nirvana
>>130909304The Beatles are still larger than him, you ever see all those McLennon yaoi fics written by autistic girls in their 20s?
More zoomers listen to Pink Floyd than Nirvana
>>130909318Zoomers aren't gonna listen to 9 minute songs unless they're stoned
>>130909342I'm 22 and I've listened to Echoes countless times, I've also listened to Can's Hallelluwah porbably 20 times in the last four years. I don't smoke weed.
Bands nirvana influenced: seether, bush, silver chair, the list goes on!bands the beatles influenced: the entirety of post 60s rock music including nirvana
>>130909345>I'm 22Get fuck off my board and go back to whatever social media sewer you spawned in.
>>130909304If you're discussing the "most popular to ever exist", the opinions of contemporary teenagers are irrelevant. Gen Alpha aren't watching Casablanca, but it's among the most popular films to ever exist nonetheless
>>130909370I don't like social media, I come here every day.
>>130909354Cobain defined and influenced the entire rock genre up until its demise in the 2010s.
>>130909384no he didnt, after grunge died everyone moved on except for awful post grunge butt rock like puddle of mud, thats his legacy.meanwhile nirvana has songs like about a girl which is basically a beatles song
>>130909409>awful post grunge butt rock like puddle of mud, thats his legacy.But that was 2000s rock.
>>130909422The very early 2000s, yes. Some of you don't remember the days when the White Stripes, the Hives, Black Keys, bands like that were shilled everywhere. I don't see the legacy of Cobain there
>>1309094222000s rock was like garage rock revival where julian casablancas was larping as lou reed but for millinieals, and emo kids who decened from post hardcore, not grunge
>>130909442Those are all alt rock and garage rock bands. You don't seem to know that record labels were signing a massive amount of bands and going around all of America trying to find the next Nirvana. They completely changed the landscape on how rock musicians got famous. Raw minimalist rock with attitude can all be traced back to them.
>>130909521Nirvana were nobodies who came from Aberdeen while the Strokes and every other garage rock revival from New York were trust fundies who came from private colleges and mom and dad have tight banking and law firm connections. Strokes could've been famous at any time they wanted.
>>130909304Oliver Tree mogs.
>>130909304Nah its still Beatles overall. Nirvana are confined to Gen X/millennials/zoomers (honestly its more millennials/zoomers who have the whole "Nirvana were THE 90s" mentality, Gen X is nostalgic over other bands besides Nirvana)
>>130909304we can safely say you're full of shit as usual nirvanafag.most of the people wearing the stoned happy face Nirvana shirt probably don't know or barely know it's a band.and the only song 90% of normies know is Teen Spirit because it's on 90's rock playlists.
>>130909521>You don't seem to know that record labels were signing a massive amount of bands and going around all of America trying to find the next NirvanaYou seem to think that was happening in 2003, not 1993
>>130909304as a teen in the 90's, i couldn't forget nirvana soon enough like one week after listening to "nevermind". and once the normies catched on, it was the least cool thing you could ever get into. even RATM i enjoyed for a longer time.
>>130909304What? Not even close. And I actually lived through that era, so shut the fuck up zoomer.
>>130909370I'm 18 and have been here almost every day since I was 12 in 2020.
>>130911178>since I was 12oh shit you too? I had a classmate introduce me to 4chan who learned about it from his older brother this was in 2011
>>130909304Honestly the zoomies at my work listen to more Beatles and Floyd than they do grunge
the rock band that ultimately won...
>>130911964uh oh... Drakesissies aren't gonna like this one, id delete that if i were you.
>Zoomers aren't wearing Elvis T shirtsPeople were wearing Beatles T shirts in Cobain's time
>>130909442And yet the Strokes' songwriter quoted Nirvana as an influence. Go figure
>>130909354>>130909409Thing is Nirvana came at a time when rock was already on its last legs. And they squeezed the last drop out of rock's remaining vitality, by becoming the final synthesis of rock. After that came retro.So of course those they influenced could not have been great, because there wasn't much to influence anymore. Rock was already done. Still a few bands managed to make good crypto-rock music, even if it was retro, because they had good songwriters. They just never came up with a new innovative style. So the big remaining blueprints in rock after the 90s were: alt-rock, retro (garage) and indie revival (whiny, jangly, lofi, postpunk wannabe etc).Then it all got diluted by NMH's and Elliot Smith's influence into folkish stuff out of which stemmed stomp-clap-hey!So retrospectively you can't find great epochal rock bands influenced by Nirvana because there was nothing great after them.
>>130916440>rock was already on its last legs.what? it was fucking massive and very diverse in the 80s
>>130909304Dude was a fag
>>130916329If you think the strokes sound like nirvana, you need to wash the jizz out of your ears
>>130909304School gave everyone the day off when he died. Best thing he ever did.
>most popular>in terms of legacywhat the hell do you even mean by this? popularity is its own metric, it is determined by... popularity. just say what you mean, he is the current fotm among easily manipulated young people who like whatever tiktok tells them to.>>130909342thanks to vape pens and edibles, they are
>>130909304I'm a zoomer wearing one of my nirvana shirts right now and I only see them on zoomettes who probably couldn't name 3 of their songs
>>130917488They don't have to sound like Nirvana to get influencedThere are subtle ways in which this can work, like how to blend melodicity with gritty sound, how to use a nonstandard solo etc
>>130916814Nah it was mostly stuck in cockrock still trying to immitate Van Halen and in hybrid postpunk shitThat's why the only viable streak in rock came from the underground where hybridisation was all the rage. That recipe only played out for a while more before it got stale and hackneyed. Then it became a blueprint, a recipe used even by buttrock
>>130916440>final synthesis of rockActually the Manics' Holy Bible came out a couple of years later
>>130909304Billy is easily top-100 of the ‘90s though. Could be as high as rank 80.
>>130909304Never seen this guy before. Who is he? What band did he play in?
>>130909304I'm 33 and the only Nirvana song I know is Smells Like Teen SpiritOne hit wonder tbqhwy
>>130909304He was a tranny and a junky who killed himself
>>130909304>Legacy Legacy is a matter of who you influence to imitate you not how viral your image is.You're doing the equivalent of claiming that Che Guevara was more influential than Mao because more people wear Che shirts.That's completely asinine.
>>130921395>Music & scene about being rebellious, dysfunctional and abnormal has weirdo musicians with broken brains W O WOWI'll never understand people trying to retcon rock into somehow being the post industrial Protestant version of church music.So yes he was but how is that a gotcha?
>>130909304>legacy>no elvis or lennonyeah it's because who is in management positions these days? that's right people who grew up listening to nirvana not the beatles or elvis so this is what gets pushed now. if you notice there's usually a 20-30 year lag between thing and revival of interest in thing because people who grew up with thing are finally in a position to bring it back and have their little nostalgia party. not shitting on nirvana they're decent but this is just the cycle of how things go with everything. soon we will only have people who grew up during nostalgia for older eras. something something baudrillard etc
Let's be honest: Most of music industry now centered around female singer/songwriters singing about interpersonal relationships/themselves.I.E., Alanis Morrissette is most influential. Before her, this type of music was pretty scarce on the charts. Might have to go all the way back to Carole King to find big commercial success. But since Alanis, there's been gabs of singer/songwriter females selling hugely.
>>130911178>I was 12 in 2020You are not a human being
>>130923184And music dies cause of it
>>130922450>something something baudrillard etcWell yeah zoomies are 100% hyperreality spawns
>>130923184I don't give a fuck dude capitalism and music is so fucking gay and it leads to Taylor swift and the like. It's vanilla white people music to get raped to by your step uncle nigga u know how many people got raped to pop music
>>130909304>Everything must be a competition and a popularity contest to determine THE GOATLiterally kys. That's the kind of mentality Kurt hated.
>>130916440>Thing is Nirvana came at a time when rock was already on its last legs.qrd
>>130911964Epic. Why do you think that is
>>130909996They know it's a band>>130910836Was that the norm? Does it matter, here?>>130916440Did, "stomp-clap-hey" stem from NMH and Elliot Smith?>>130923281How else can music die?>>130925440Is that true?
>>130909304the t-shirt has an appealing logo on it, not kurt's facethe funny smiley face is the most popular rock star to ever exist
