Did most millennial and zoomer rock fans have more reverence for 60's bands than those from their own era?Or was that just a Gen X thing?
>>130990180>Did most millennial and zoomer rock fans have more reverence for 60's bands than those from their own era?If you were 15 in 2003 the new slop the industry was serving up to you was slop, we all knew it back then
>>130990180I'm a late millennial and always hated "rock" from the 1950s to the 1980s. I only listened to 1990s, 2000s, and then 2010s rock music because anything before that sounded dated.
>>130990534I will punch that Fall Out Boy guy in the mouth.
>>130990588>I'm a late millennialnice try, zoomer
>boomer rock
>>130990588>I'm a late millennial.most likely a zillennial larping as a 94-95'er not a real one, lmao. the whole nirvana/soundgarden/pearl jam/nu-metal worship thing was your thing.>>130990180on the contrary to what the poster above said, generally speaking people enjoyed listening to all sorts of music from the 60s to 80s: 70s and 80s were the peak years for music, hard rock and heavy metal defining albums were released then, even punk rock from back then was considered gold before the whole pop-punk sellout-ism influenced the genre with fake-scene kids taking it into the "metalcore" and "hardcore" directions which were 100% not punk and not cool with the metal/rocker crowd and was seen as corporate garbage much like Nickelback.
>>130990534>If you were 15 in 2003 the new slop the industry was serving up to you was slop, we all knew it back thenI'd always thought of how something like Are You Experienced could take you to a place that Fall Out Boy or those other slop bands couldn't.
>>130990619>>130990632give an exact date range of late millennial and early zoomer immediately
>>130990673late millennial: 90s to 95 (in some countries this is marked by Y in their ID, X-Y-Z, zillenial is around 96-98, 99-05 is early zoomer, generation is a 15 year period.)
>>130990534nu metal is one of those things that would have impressed a 14 yo but then as you got older it didn't
>>130990534especially because of just how boring it was
>>130990783zillennial is a fake category
>>130990798either way most people who were into rock and metal music could enjoy rap music but not mix the two, it was oil and water: don't mix or you get a chernobyl in the kitchen.
>>130990798I am still impressed by nu metal as a 30 year old just as I was as a 12 year old. You are just a bandwagoning neckbeard who's trying to fit in with the "cool" kids by pretending you're above it for praising pretentious amelodic boring garbage instead.
>>130990825cry more whoreson thanks for proving yourself to be a zillennial (gen Z: born before 00s yet not a millennial: get fucked.)
>>130990836>30 year old.yeah, you are still a zoomer, faggot.
>>130990832retarded revisionism, nu-metal enjoyed mainstream popularity in the 2000s, because people enjoyed the combination of rap rhythm and rock instrumentals.
>>130990847>mainstream. APPEAL TO AUTHROTIY AND MAINSTREAM STATEMENTS REEE I AM SO APPROVED! WAAGHH!metal and rock aren't about mainstream approval niggerfaggot, its all about being anti-establishment and people like you who bring in popularity contests like a retarded jeet. (having multiple jeets doesn't mean your people are great: just bunch of flies attracted to shit.)
>>130990180>velvet underground>bob dylan>beach boysnot rock
>>130990783According to Pew Research, 1996 is the last Millennial year, a terminus a large portion of demographers have decided to go with. Your justification for contradicting with a 1995 date being...?
>>130990798did i mention the first time i ever heard Black Sabbath i was a bit filtered because i was used to the idea that metal was supposed to sound like Disturbed ie. a guy yelling over brickwalled riffs and Paranoid seemed a little too sparse
>>130990865>PW research.get out already retard: you are a piece of shit zoomer that grew up with a single parent.
>>130990858>metal and rock aren't about mainstream approvalthey literally were about trying to install a new mainstream, which was ultimately successful>its all about being anti-establishmentso every band was Rage Against The Machine, Against Me!, and Rise Against, huhstupido
>>130990867this is why nobody takes zoomers seriously that don't know what old music was like your opinion is dogshit.
>>130990869>no argumentsasuga
>>130990877the current establishment at the time was Rap, Pop Music and Punk being "pre-approved" garbage. the rebellion was against the mainstream, over-produced garbage that had no personality to it that was mass marketed and appeal-basis rather than original music, mallcore shit is shit for a reason.
>>130990867Lmao pleb
>>130990798>nu metal is one of those things that would have impressed a 14 yo but then as you got older it didn't"Let The Bodies Hit The Floor" was funny back then but it should be left in the Bush years where it belongs.
>>130990896there was nothing funny about it or cool, it was just garbage filler just like nickelback it was memed to death.
>>130990893nothing plebian about that take if you were a Millenial you were probably mostly exposed to Disturbed kind of music as a kid and would have initially gotten filtered by anything from the 70s
>>130990892at what "time", nigga?you think I'm in your head?
>>130990903pleb, most kids as millennials (who had parents, unlike you) with record collections probably put you through some of their old shit first or when you were riding along their car to some place and the radio station defaulted to classics or some collection of a mix-tape on a burned CD blasting the classics from 80s, 70s, or even some contemporary underground shit, only Zillenials with whore moms didn't have this experience.
>>130990902>there was nothing funny about it or cool, it was just garbage filler just like nickelback it was memed to death.nta but it was funny to an edgy 14 year old. we grew up though.
>>130990922there was more edgier things that let the bodies hit the floor and linking park at 14 one could access to if one wasn't a pleb.
>>130990180No. Most of the kids in my high school who liked rock liked the mainstream pop punk type music. You would see a few Pink Floyd shirts now and then, the most popular bands.
>>130990928most people knew Led Zep, Black Sabbath, AC/DC, Iron Maiden in 00s in a regular school that wasn't filled with blacks 100%.
>>130990916oh it's one of these fakers. this is like the Millenial version of Frank Zappa claiming he had a collection of obscure 50s R&B records when he was 13 and wasn't impressed when Elvis broke because he'd already heard it all. like shit he did. he probably had a Perry Como record or something.
>>130990928Pop punk was mostly for girls anyway.
>>130990944>nooo you know more than me reeee! you must be fake!nope, stop larping nigger.
>>130990940Everyone probably knew the more basic obvious classic rock stuff from being sampled in TV and movies, I doubt you heard Velvet Underground or stuff like that.
>>130990922>nta but it was funny to an edgy 14 year old. we grew up though.like boomers with KISS. it was ok to middle schoolers but some things should be left in middle school where they belong.
>>130990986the question wasn't about what wasn't being talked about but what was (especially in 00s), pretentious goal-post moving faggot.
>>130990798at that age you get off on any loud aggressive shit even if the musicianship is a joke
honestly tired of sports event core rock bandsyouve been on this planet for 60 years and cant show me a cooler rock band than bon jovi and pink floyd? fucking mainstream pleb
>>130991049>youve been on this planet for 60 years and cant show me a cooler rock band than bon jovi and pink floyd? fucking mainstream plebthe issue isn't those bands per se than that nothing new has come along to replace them. maybe there could be some new young band making the next sports stadium anthem so we don't have to keep spamming 40 year old ones, but it hasn't happened.
>>130990896Eminem also seriously wasn't that good when you've heard literally any other rapper.
>>130991066Eminem was the only "pre-approved" rapper in white countries because he was white, simple as. DMX was in-fact liked by white rap fans as well.
Real hot topic, guy
>>130990534I didn't like nu metal or pop punk because it was boring slop, I didn't like the brickwalled production, and pop (meaning the Britney, Pink, etc kind of pop) was even worse.
>>130991105only pussy whipped betas and those chasing skirts went to pop concerts anyway.
>>130991122That may be true, but there's also no question that that stuff was virtually unlistenable compared to pop from just about any previous decade and had a disgusting aesthetic.
>>130990992Billy still vehemently shills KISS as a 59 year old man.
>>130991133yeah it was designed to appeal to niggers and mutts.
>>130991058blink
>>130991133>That may be true, but there's also no question that that stuff was virtually unlistenable compared to pop from just about any previous decade and had a disgusting aesthetic.my take is the 2010s were more boring and pozzed, but also not quite as disgusting aesthetically as the 2000s. 9/11 just...broke people's brains and it led to BEP and other horrors.
>>130991049just free yourself of the boomer psyop and realize their "classics" are just plebshit the same as they accuse new shit of being
>>130991066Eminem was and is better than 9/10 rappers on the planet like Jay-Z and Kanye. Very few people were better tha him, like Canibus.
>>130991164>just free yourself of the boomer psyop and realize their "classics" are just plebshit the same as they accuse new shit of being
>>130991194>bro mainstream sloppa was fucking GREAT when i was 12 in the 80s!
Xennial here we listened to a lot of boomer and gen x music but a lot of the hippie shit seems to have died off like Hendrix was talked about way more back in the 90s
>>130991834Graceland
>>130991194C'mon man every generation had slop
>>130991878If I could turn back timeeee
>>130991878>>>/facebook/
>>130991403>>130991847>>130991194https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/130898598/#130898598>293 postsone thing that struck me is that music back then was rarely boring, even the bad stuff was usually interesting in some way. i can't say that of 2010s. the worst thing you can do is not only suck but be completely uninteresting on top of it.
>>130991973the 60s had an unusual quality to slop ratio compared to most decades it was a fluke in a lot of ways
>>130992034>the 60s had an unusual quality to slop ratio compared to most decades it was a fluke in a lot of waysit was an artist and not a corporate-driven era is why
>>130991973timmycels lowk made the corniest shi back>but i like it so its goodnah it aint like that vro its js not tuff anymore ts boring ash
>>130992117>timmycels lowk made the corniest shi back>but i like it so its good>nah it aint like that vro its js not tuff anymore ts boring ash
>>130990180Modern rock is garbage
>>130990180georgie greep mogs all this hippie unshaved puss shi
>>130990180>Including 60s One Direction in with all those better albums.Gay. I take it you're a newfag. We used to hate the Beatles in the old days. We'd lynch you if we caught you talking about them
>>130990867even during the 80s kids into Bark At The Moon thought classic Black Sabbath sounded dated
>>130990624free is maybe the archetypal boomer rock band
>>130992034i think frank zappa talked about how labels would just sign whatever hippie bands they could and didn't micromanage because they had no understanding of it.
>>130994631radio especially in the late 60s was also really free form and DJs had a lot of freedom of what they could play. Cream and the Doors sitting in the top 10 next to Bobby Goldsboro was pretty remarkable.
>>13099018003 "Zoomer". I prefer 60s bands to 2020s bands. There's a couple I like but the best of the 60s is better.
>>130994631He said it was because the record suits in the 60s were still old pre-rock guys like Dave Dexter and that rock got tamped down and commercialized ironically when younger A&R dudes took over.
Imagine how much bullshit would be saved if people just said>I was a teen in the 2010s>I went to college in the early 2000s>I was a kid in 1990s>I hit my 30s in the 2020sinstead of this shit. Maybe the 90s guys could finally kiss and make love after nearly a decade of brutal conflict. Maybe the late 2000s and early 2010s kids can kiss and make love. The SoundCloud era can be rightly looked at as a multi generational movement lasting from the early 2010s until the 2020s with it's dips and peaks.The current teens can age out of this rigid bullshit driven by older manchild influencers while us earlier 2000s uncs click up and find our own lane with a new sound in a new era. "Older Zoomers" and "Late Millennials" already linking up on that On The Radar Radio New Class Cypher vol 1 video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVpWIpXZ4lEALSO LITERALLY THE 2016 XXL FRESHMAN CYPHER BEFORE THE GENERATION BULLSHIT HIT THE INTERNET AND BEFORE """""GEN Z CULTURE""""" EVEN EXISTED.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_IbIMUbh-k21 Savage (1992, M)Lil Yachty (1997, Z)Kodak Black (1997, Z)Lil Uzi Vert (1994, M)Denzel Curry (1995, M)unless people want visceral revenge. This shit can just end immediately.
>>130991403zoomer… you do realize that people (yes, even YOU) have the ability to go back and listen to ‘80s tracks, right? they blow current music out the fuckin water: https://youtu.be/l3VqAsMXE7ohttps://youtu.be/heDRZuRZSNchttps://youtu.be/AIBv2GEnXlccan call it cherry picking but please cherry pick some current examples on that level.
>>130992034There was no really bad year of the 60s, well maybe 61-62 were a little weak but still had major names like Ray Charles, Roy Orbison, and the Beach Boys in it. There were some grievances during the decade like Trini Lopez and of course the eternal Steve Lawrence, but it's impressive how overall good the quality of most stuff was.
>>130996158The 80s had less filler slop than the 70s actually. I say that because particularly after 72 there was a lot of very boring soft rock and AC mush on the charts.
>>130995894>unless people want visceral revenge. This shit can just end immediately.total boomer death
>>130995983never heard that talk talk song before. purdy good. i know a bunch of that stuff from the living in oblivion comps my mom would play but i need to listen to more of it.
>>130995471the off air recordings from that era are pretty cool. i used to collect them and i gave this probably schizophrenic youtuber a copy of my collection upload. https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQkVwAGpGFA2QcY8wFVv22H2VTQJ8iFFM
>>130997469actual boomers or older people?
>>130997469you know what I think I know the answer I'm just gonna back off.
>>130995983some of the gayest stuff ive heard
>>130998042>as long as i don't admit i'm wrong, i can't lose the argumentthe entire thread is laughing at you. it's just like high school all over again.
>>130990180millenials and zoomers tried to pretend 60s rock wasn't better because of poptimism and disco revisionism. We'd talk about "dadrock" and "WGWAG" but deep down we all knew the past was better>t. turning point year between millenial and zoomer
>>1310026821996?60s music has aged terribly, Beatles included; sounds horribly primitive
>>130990180Beatles v Beach Boys was a common fight here a couple of years ago?
>>131002704>60s music has aged terribly, Beatles included; sounds horribly primitivepost favorite artists/albums so we can judge your tastes
>>131005987No
>>131005987Death Grips, NMH, Swans, Radiohead, the list goes on.
>>130990180>60s rock>Zeppelin 2
>>131006045It was technically if barely still 60s as it came out November '69.
>>131002704it varies. some of the stuff has held up a lot of it hasn't. also the most dated Beatles songs are obviously their early three chord rock ditties.
>>131006052I thought 1 came out in 69 and 2 in 70, my bad
>>131006052And some people will argue 1970 was actually the last year of the 60s and 71 the first year of the 70s.
>>131006060early 60s music has aged worse than the late 60s
>>131002682some of them have a hard time accepting that the music from their own childhoods was pants and they want to tell themselves that Linkin Park were actually music
>>130990180i mean i liked what was on the radio growing up but when it came to playing songs i downloaded i always prefered to put on the classics. some of it is nostaglia due to my genx dads influence of taste but i feel like i was gonna gravitate towards the genre regardless. its a timeless genre but after years of listening to it nonstop it did eventualy get old to me and ive since moved on. from time to time i do go back and play some dadrock but its not something i have on loop like some people do
>>131006397rock died when it stopped having machismo and became abuse porn like LP
>>130991049the killers have been getting in with mr.brightside. it takes a lot to overtake the generational hold the older hits have
>Mid 80s Millennial who grew up in the SouthI think The Doors is the only 60s rock I actually listen to today. I think the sweet spot is 1970s rock for true Millennials. Growing up I would listen to whatever my dad did which was Southern Rock (Skynyrd, Allman Bros, ZZ Top, Charlie Daniels) and he also liked Zeppelin and Pink Floyd. I still listen to all that shit today and think it's great.
>>131006517the 70s was when they'd pretty well figured out how to sell rock to average white dudes as opposed to earlier periods when rock was for teenage girls or hippies at a campus protest.
>>131006574What I mean is 50s R&R was mostly for young teens and normies listened to jazz if they were urbanites or country if more rural. some more daring types got into black music. late 60s rock was for dope-smoking people involved in the protest movement, and it was starting with Zeppelin that they figured out how to sell rock to generic under 30 white guy.
