Chávez editionhttps://youtu.be/PDpQVSpE1XIThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>131017818
Scriabinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AAIlO9w34o
>>131055287>not even Richter can salvage that drecklanguishing junk indeed
>>131055294And other hilarious jokes you can tell yourself
Scriabinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1MF2HfmV1Q
>>131054694What did you think the sixth string quartet was all about?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7epVd81pc5U
Scriabin is the beacon.Scriabin is labyrinthineScriabin is sophistication.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-OCGEG9ZGg
>>131055368I always forget he has a piano concerto
Scriabin is hope,Scrianin is despair.Scriabin is visible,Scriabin is obscure.Scriabin drives you insane,Scriabin heals your sanity.Scriabin is inside you and me. We are all S.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgLrQcy6-Zo
>Just how much of Wagner’s music did Wagner want you to hear? It is worth reading Frederic Spotts’ Bayreuth: a history of the Wagner festival which discusses Wagner’s sunken orchestra pit at his purpose-built Bayreuth Festspielhaus and further care as producer of the first Ring productions that the orchestra should never overwhelm the text. Spotts recounts Richard Strauss’s assertion that “Wagner the composer was willing to sacrifice his music for the sake of Wagner the dramatist”. The orchestra should never overwhelm the text or stage action as Wagner aimed to create a new form of ‘total artwork’ or ‘music-drama’.>Spotts describes how Bayreuth’s orchestra pit features a forward cowling and sound dampener at the rear which frame a unique sunken platform for orchestra and conductor on six wide steps, descending from the audience side towards the stage. In the theatre audience attention is further kept focused on the drama as the orchestra and light from the pit are hidden from view. Not everyone liked this setup. Wilhelm Furtwängler expressed doubts saying balances should be left to the conductor. Karajan, ever the egocentric, even wondered whether a gap could be sawed out so the audience could watch him conduct! >Someone who certainly thought he knew better, for recordings at least, was Decca producer John Culshaw. His pioneering stereo studio Ring, begun in 1957, rebalanced the orchestra with unmatched parity against the singers. Instrumental leitmotifs and sheer orchestral heft emerged as never before on record to create a theatre of the mind revealing new psychological depths for the home listener. Perhaps the absence of visual drama meant Culshaw could get away with the orchestral rebalance. Multi-mic wizardry, some would say gimmickry, ensured the text was not swamped. But would Wagner still have approved?so my preference for a Ring where the orchestra is equal to the voices is pleb and wrong? damn
finna go back in time and make Scriabin compose a Das Lied von der Erde esque symphonic song cycle piece under threat of gunpoint
now playingstart of Ernst Toch: String Quartet No. 8 in D-Flat Major, Op. 18https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkJE_vQWWj8&list=OLAK5uy_miM4f4B0oqVzCWiJEDbKUFIaytfkPVMJA&index=1start of Ernst Toch: String Quartet No. 9 in C Major, Op. 26https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOGpZo0PxcU&list=OLAK5uy_miM4f4B0oqVzCWiJEDbKUFIaytfkPVMJA&index=7https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_miM4f4B0oqVzCWiJEDbKUFIaytfkPVMJARecommended for those who enjoy lesser-known string quartets from the early 20th century. It even got a 10; 10 rating on ClassicsToday!https://www.classicstoday.com/review/review-7751/
>>131055618not knowing enough German to understand what the characters are saying is pleb and wrong in the first place
>>131055712Yeah, well, blame the Tower of Babel.
Good recording of Scriabins op 11?
>>131055752>good recording>of Scriabin
Who is this "Scriabin" guy anyway? Tell me, I want to know. It's always "Scriabin" this, that. Is he some kind of joke? A trick? Magic perhaps? What kind of sorcery has inflicted us, mortal men? How does "he" spellbind a living man, is it the work of his "poems" and "ecstasies"? The answer is obvious, "Scriabin" never intended to write good music, no. Instead, "he" violently penetrated us with a "mysterious" lust. Thus we became his toys, mere objects for pleasure, not the other way around. If you ever felt otherwise, it's the stockholm syndrome talking, not you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cv_wV7H-JU
>>131055752There's several good ones but here's a great one by Piers Lane,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpJpyHgMztY&list=OLAK5uy_l6m8NMyp-fJu8Mq_xByKQxqLfzziNRXlw&index=3sorry for the NSFW cover!
>>131055877>sorry for the NSFW cover!Go he a homo elsewhere
I apologize for the NSFW picture.
>>131055898It's called being considerate. I woulda spoiler tagged it if I could.
Hildegard Behrens as Brunnhildehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9ojwz3QLYE&list=OLAK5uy_kzSmwn1uwTwFuoE5Jnb3ckAMaY1FTLJnU&index=66
Scriabin is a fucking retard, or rather was. Let me explain. This guy said he was God. OK, whatever. I guess it was in a Theosophic-Hindu kind of way where it's not preposterous to say you are God, or the universe. Nobody cares. This motherfucker was totally ahead of the game harmony-wise. He stretched that motherfucker like nobody else at that time. But he derived all motifs from his disgusting Mystic chord which sounds like ass. Listening to the same disgusting fourths, tritones, and chromatic lines gets boring REALLY quick. But that's not the worst of it. Absolutely not. The worst thing is, this motherfucker was so retarded, so stuck in the 19th century, that he still wrote sonata form. OK, you say, nothing too crazy about that, but hear me out. This motherfucker not only wrote in sonata form, but he did it in the worst possible way. Every single phrase, every single idea, every single narrative he tried to convey in his fart-smelly music, it all succumbed to formalism. This guy was so retarded he was a grade A formalist. Let me explain. From his first opus to his last, this fucking retard used recurring, and I mean over and over and over again, small-scale formal structures in the form of periods. This motherfucker couldn't convey a single shitty idea that he had without using these lazy and fucking boring two four-bar or two eight-bar (and similar) phrases, which he regularly repeated. This is the most infuriating and lazy shit to do in the early 20th century. What the fuck? And this is supposed to be good? Even Wagner of all people had debunked that shit DECADES ago. And this stupid motherfucker used his diarrhea-inducing disgusting harmony and succumbed it to shitty and extremely lazy formalism. Oh and because he wasn't lame enough, he was a fucking symbolist. Yeah cool this motif is about ass farting and that motif is about mother fucking, but dude its meaning is like hidden or whatever, who cares, this is just lame. Scriabin is a fucking retard.
>>131056301I like the word 'debunked' use in an artistic context.>Y'know guys, Brahms debunked Mozart.hehe
>>131021490obvious omissions:solti’s ringfischer’s well-tempered claviercortot’s chopin
>>131056483>cortot’s chopinuh, I think you mean Rubinstein's Chopin
Scriabin Fucks
>mfw listening to HIP Purcell, and Savall interpretations of Lully and CouperinBaroque music truly is the sex-havers choice and the most sex-piled music out there. Every time I hear a female operatic singers sing without vibrato, my penis starts dripping
Machaut Fucks. Marais Fucks. Mozart Fucks. Haydn Fucks. Debussy Fucks. Stravinsky Fucks.Brucker Sucks. Mahler Sucks. Chopin Sucks, Schoenberg Sucks. Stockhausen Sucks.
Yeah, I'm thinking its a Scriabin day lads.
>>131056590Based Cummer
Beethoven 3 eveninghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00Y0mQJNJ0o&list=OLAK5uy_l5hJ_UOlf_n1-LfO_OpdRoDWGZe0G-h3o&index=11
>>131056660What do you like about Debussy and Stravinsky's that's lacking in the other turn of the century composers you hate?
>>131057063Simple. They Fuck. Those below suck. Simple as.
Cute musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IbJrzP6zDM&list=OLAK5uy_nL_gXd0UUbX5ornVeaV_FCrAWE7itGX_4
>>131055421I forget about the symphonies
>>131055618i've been listening to the ring as background music
I like Bach, Mozart, Scriabin. I do NOT like Schoenberg, Cage, Stockhausen.
>>131059079See this magazine cover? That's how based you are.
>>131055421Prometheus is sort of, kind of, a piano concertoScriabinhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp386CtJTls
>>131059105Holy shit I owned that magazine. Pretty sure it came with a demo disc. Good times.
>>131057288The symphonies are bomb.
now playingstart of Grieg: Piano Concerto in A Minor, Op. 16https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXS-MaUt9Ts&list=OLAK5uy_nX-5sWrBlqxQSd4oRcjv5NXkjdpuG6w2o&index=2start of Schumann: Piano Concerto in A Minor, Op. 54https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpsTzwWZyA0&list=OLAK5uy_nX-5sWrBlqxQSd4oRcjv5NXkjdpuG6w2o&index=4https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nX-5sWrBlqxQSd4oRcjv5NXkjdpuG6w2o
There seems to be two thoughts of interpretation for Wagner's Siegfried regarding the Mime's singing. That is, whether the voice ought to be comically grotesque, which I'd imagine is superior from a dramatic perspective, or normal and pleasant, which is obviously superior from a musical perspective, though you get the slight issue of a smaller distinction between the voice of the Mime and Siegfried.
now playingScriabin: Prélude No. 4, Op. 11https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVUJRwGT9uM&list=OLAK5uy_lJyY0QXbTsCn2dKYC_KO6Mc3lPrdtw5vc&index=2start of Scriabin: Sonate-Fantaisie No. 2 en Sol Dièse Mineur, Op. 19https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jm0-X3JaF4I&list=OLAK5uy_lJyY0QXbTsCn2dKYC_KO6Mc3lPrdtw5vc&index=3start of Scriabin: Deux Poèmes, Op. 32https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SkSk2K9_C8&list=OLAK5uy_lJyY0QXbTsCn2dKYC_KO6Mc3lPrdtw5vc&index=5Scriabin: Fantaisie, Op. 28https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFb-9tmfTtw&list=OLAK5uy_lJyY0QXbTsCn2dKYC_KO6Mc3lPrdtw5vc&index=7start of Scriabin: Sonate No. 3 en Fa Dièse Mineur, Op. 23https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn8SYHWKCjk&list=OLAK5uy_lJyY0QXbTsCn2dKYC_KO6Mc3lPrdtw5vc&index=11Scriabin: Sonate No. 9 "Messe noire" (Poème satanique) , Op. 68https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWrVb-qxrO4&list=OLAK5uy_lJyY0QXbTsCn2dKYC_KO6Mc3lPrdtw5vc&index=20along with some other short pieceshttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lJyY0QXbTsCn2dKYC_KO6Mc3lPrdtw5vcAn essential mixed program recording that belongs in every Scriabin fan's library, if not every classical fan's.>Are you seeking a single-disc Scriabin overview that intelligently mixes and matches larger and smaller works, ranging from the composer’s early Chopin-influenced piano writing to the near-atonal mysticism of his late Sonatas and Preludes? Then look no further. Not only is Alexander Melnikov a great program builder, but he’s also one of the most idiomatic and commanding Scriabin pianists I’ve ever heard–and I’m not forgetting Horowitz, Richter, Sofronitsky, and Feinberg... No Scriabin aficionado should pass up this stunning, superbly engineered release. [7/6/2006] ---- Jed Distler, Rating: 10; 10, ClassicsToday
>>131056483also:casal's cello suitesciccolini's satiedieskau's schubet liedercziffra's lisztcallas' tosca
>>131056494>Rubinstein's ChopinNot even top 10 Chopin
Is the St. Matthew Passion the logical conclusion of music?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTalijb8Dfw
W. A. Mozart - Symphony No. 26 in E-flat majorhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwSwPIXT5pk
Did Johann Strauss write anything of interest besides that damn blue danube waltz
Been listening to Sibelius 1-3 a lot the last few days. The finale theme of the 2nd is the definition of nobility and grace.
