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can't yeri push wendy down some stairs again? this is hard to watch
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behind the sign are huge rock hard chimplants
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cute midgets
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seulgi
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MCOUNTDOWN:
https://kick.com/im-cory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIIpF_6s340
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still with the hip padding lol
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>>131144550
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Ni-Ki did nothing wrong!
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REMOVE YERI
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Best group of all time
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>>131144550
jinsoul is a princess
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is she the most succubus coded idol
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why does chaewon say tombstone like that

how come yg is very specific about their talents english pronunciations yet hybe lets this slide
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>>131144534
like the Kiss of Life girls esp Hanuel and love the REM song, but not such a fan of the rest of their songs. what do?
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>>131144564
i think that would be r**a
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>>131144564
asa is pure actually
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Joy - can't recognize
Yeri - can't recognize
Irene - same
Wendy - can't recognize
Seulgi - natty or close
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cute new linglings for the linglingbro
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>>131144470
I feel that Mina was a good girl. The way she made a bow before going on to her new journey just shows great character. May

ALLAH

have mercy on her.
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>>131144576
yeon tier
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Yeri sit on my face
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OH WHAT I'D SACRIFICE TO BE ONE OF THOSE TOWELS
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malaysian air do be hitting different
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>>131144578
were there people in the chat?
>>
we love jay park and dayoung
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>>131144578
she was cute and a good girl
however she was severely mentally ill and was mindraped by gaypop
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>>131144580
that fuck seashitters failed to vote her into izna
>>
yeri big chest bouncing while she rides your...
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>>131144578
we must all pray to our gods to go easy on her, the poor naive child she was
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cute
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>>131144582
cute yuna
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ahy
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>>131144591
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>>131144596
best laugh best girl best chest
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>>131144591
yeri's not for sexualizing
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i have bigger boobs than jiyu
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yeri buttsex
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our hags are on!
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>>131144604
lose some weight fatty
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irene's final ovulation
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>>131144608
lovely little teef
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why are they lipsyncing
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>>131144578
can someone give a qrd on this
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>>131144612
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>yeri pushing you down and riding your hard on the anniversary of jonghyun death just so she can feel good for a moment
omo...
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>>131144615
it was also edited, not live.
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>>131144623
i mean yeah most stages are prerecorded

show over jennie won
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>>131144615
it’s sm’s gimmick
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gooby
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>>131144621
why is wendy ass mogging??? you told me she was a skeleton
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https://desuarchive.org/mu/search/text/dead%20thread%20dead%20general%20dead%20kpop/

https://desuarchive.org/mu/search/text/just%20witnessed%20a%20samefag/

https://desuarchive.org/mu/search/text/wrong%20thread/

https://desuarchive.org/mu/search/text/ugly%20op/

https://desuarchive.org/mu/search/text/dogshit%20hours/
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>>131144639
pads
>>
>archiveshitting
he's fuming lmao
>>
>>131144631
damn
yeri hasn't looked that good in years
>>
>>131144644
crazy how that one schizo gaypop clown has latched onto pretty much all off these gimmicks and one-liners he's in all those archive pages

he must be here a lot to absorb all the lingo and bits; a total nutcase that one
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>>131144649
or maybe you just didn't notice
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canadians
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>>131144654
remove
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>>131144658
does stacy gfe work?
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relax she's just showing her hairloss
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>>131144609
yeejer
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>>131144645
literally 35 years old btw. the visuals are still so clean
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thinking of better and innovative ways to protect choerry's purity
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>>131144659
no
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>>131144639
she is glutemaxxing
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>>131144669
my mouth
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Gf
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>>131144564
pretty sure that's ning
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cum to junhwi or tomi?
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>>131144671
finally some purity
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I didn't know Sooms had a belly button.
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>>131144673
imagine irene doing this
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>>131144676
omo
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>>131144676
extemely interesting pic
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>>131144678
fuck off
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my waifu is the most beautiful idol and the only natty idol.
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>>131144683
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>>131144687
sorry
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>>131144676
>>131144685
>>131144686

https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/123865769/#123866134
https://desuarchive.org/mu/thread/123865769/#123866349
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irene looks old
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>>131144681
she doesn't, that's edited
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Wendy and Yeri didn't re-sign the contracts but they're still part of RV? how?

has anyone told nj?
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no, this is the only natty idol
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>>131144688
bueno...
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>>131144688
>the most beautiful idol and the only natty idol.
hey! wait a minute! that's not karina!!!
>>
>>
>>131144693
that's a good thing. getting sick of literal children
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irene won
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why did you post the same thing twice
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>>131144704
yeah i mean he said natty
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Fun fact: Did you know? Yeji's Great Grandfather Hermet von Himmler escaped world war 2? thats right he was a refugee! Refugees welcome!!
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>>131144652
qrd in the original user of these oneliners?
>>
tsuki pose!
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>>131144696
the same way snsd members who left still promote with the group during anniversaries
also two mamamoo members left the label but still show up for group activities
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>>131144722
we've seen her bare butt
this kind of stuff no longer does it for us
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>>131144559
>>131144578
>>131144585
>>131144589
>>131144592
>>131144616
mentally ill samefag detected
>>
>>131144729
link
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>>131144688
ugly toad
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>>131144730
30 years old (yuck!) doing this shit
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>we've seen her bare butt
serina...
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>>131144736
boeun is gorgeous
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>>131144735
>>
some of you are unironically counting down to may's birthday
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go won
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>>131144749
i'm doing it ironically
>>
did enhypen acknowledge the girl's death?
>>
>>131144722
delicious delicate feet
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>>131144731
she's very precise
>>
>>131144755
how onew
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>>131144755
yea they said lol
>>
>>131144755
no they have a comeback soon they can't have negative press are you daft
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>>131144755
have you acknowledged you need to see psychiatric help asap?
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>>131144747
she is
what's with all the idols flashing this new panties brand?
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>>131144763
delete this sooms from all your devices
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>>131144758
the news say she was a top fan or something
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>>131144749
>Birthday 2004-11-16
but there's still months left
>>
>>131144769
how onew
>>
they murdered her because she was attractive and they know oppa likely tapped that
>>
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ENGENEs did nothing wrong
NI-KI did nothing wrong

The sasaeng died on her own. Suicide is a choice.
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>>131144737
meant for >>131144737
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>>131144755
stop making such a fuss
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>>131144696
Two separate contracts. One contract for solo work and one for group
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H O W O N E W
O
W
O
N
E
W
let me spell it out for you
this is korea
what this guy said might sound like cynicism or something but that's actually how it works >>131144760
h*be is gigantic jew owned business
they will pay off the media, send paid shills to distract, discredit, and drown out whatever social media outburst might be building, and make everything in their power to not lose a single won over this
what do you mean acknowledge the girl. what girl?
>>
most people here will not be familiar with it, but the fan that an hero'd clearly had menhera styling
she was very vulnerable form the start
>>
>>131144696
i don't think it applies to nj because they're still on their original hybe contracts and hybe doesn't want to let them go, those older groups have some leverage to do things their way because they're actually out of their contracts but it's still beneficial for the company to keep the group going
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>>131144734
nope!
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IT'S OUT
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>>131144784
very kissable
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>>131144748
perfect!
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>>131144784
what is she pointing at?
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"IT'S OUT" - wendy after puking her lunch again
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>>131144788
built like a fridge, she should get ass and hip implants
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>>131144541
>>131144571
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Yejibros we need to get on that Wendy diet
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>>131144791
her pusster
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>>131144791
where you're supposed to look ofc
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>>131144799
shes so fucking perfect.
>>
>>131144802
cute yooyeon
>>
this counts as a lia thread btw
finally a lia thread
>>
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Side boobies
>>
>>131144802
cutie
never see yewon posted here
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>>131144806
lovely chorbs
>>
>>131144788
thats a HUGE bitch. nearly as fat as ariana grande
>>
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ewww uggoerry
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>>131144815
what a valiant effort
>>
oogie best chink
by a lot too
>>
>>131144810
natty?
>>
>>131144810
HOLY
>>
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>>131144823
Maybe
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>>131144826
amazing tummy
>>
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>>131144829
>>
>>131144755
acknowledge what? that World has retarded people? everyone knows it
fanbase is not a private club you know
>>
>>131144818
i prefer xiaoxiao
but oog is very nice too
>>
fake oogiebro
>>
oogie feet stink
quite a lot too
>>
tina
>>
Yeah she's 11 years younger than me but she has an old seoul
>>
>>131144831
I can't do it, she's too gooky and cute.
>>
>>131144734
bad guess, one of those is me, but i just read all about it in the news so i don't need qrd.
sad day when the news is more reliable than 4chins
>>
post gooks who can suck a tennis ball through a garden hose
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>>131144837
>>
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yejibros are we retarded we thought there was going to be a special mcountdown stage with izna
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>>131144843
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>>131144846
looking at haram's
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I wish my waifu would do this
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Look at this shithole. Wasted square footage
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should've been a kpop....
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>>131144688
>>
6th gen all groups with chimplants
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>>131144833
>it's the retarded people's fault I attacked a random fan on stream
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>>131144854
looks like a giant crt tv
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She doesn't need any chimplants
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>>131144848
are there any idols who visually improved post-debut more than joy?
>>
>>131144863
soul
>>
JIYU IS LITERALLY INSANE
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>>131144818
all wjsn chinks> uggo
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>>131144869
seoul*
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>>131144867
umji
>>
do you think sana groomed jiwoo after the interview to get fucked by her boyfriend
>>
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Whores and aura usurpers
Virgins and true idols
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eat da fish
>>
oh for gods sake jiyu is not good looking
neither is seulgi
and you people never stop harping on about them buncha slack jawed uggo lovers the lot of you
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oogie chest bink
by a lot too
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>>131144877
blah blah blah
i think you need to take a break
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He's too pure for this world.
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Lily is the best hapa in K-pop history. The rest are just there for looks. Somi is a turbo cunt, can't sing well, probably had sex with Matthew.
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sana jiwoo threesome
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gn kpg chingus see you all tomorrow
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jiwoo is a good catholic girl and is saving herself for husband
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>>131144890
i need
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>>131144887
kys complainturd
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>>131144889
well somi fucks and sucks good unlike this ugly weirdo
>>
post aespa looking reptilian without contacts
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>>131144889
lily is ugly
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>>131144885
no i think you just suck
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE6a1odQmcI
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>>131144893
or Sana's boyfriend
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>>131144899
lily is amazing in bed actually
she knows she's fugly and needs a reason for them to come back for more
>>
Who is Sana's boyfriend and dont say me
>>
ILLIT look up to Twice.
H2H will say RV because they are senpai but yeah RV is a mess, not good idols. Twice are true idols.
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seoah will be actress
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yejibros we are eating peanut butter on toast
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>>131144909
only if you meant as idols they cant properly sing and dance
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>>131144909
shut the fuck up momo
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>>131144890
add sully and miyeon and make it a fivesome
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Sana is a virgin.
Sakura is not
Kazuha is not
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>>131144914
No honey?
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>>131144920
wrong right wrong
>>
>>131144909
at their peak rv was getting BTFO simultaneously by
twice
bp
gfriend
ioi
and aoa
if it wasn't for the fact irene is a goddess the rest would be flipping burgers now
>>
jiwoo would definitely let any man fuck her if sana asked it of her
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>>131144907
the way she speaks, dances, moves, sits, thinks, breathes and overall carries herself says otherwise. grim sex life even gamer loser Sully would be better fuck
>>
>>131144921
we're sweet enough brother
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better than any twice
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>>131144930
brother you have diabetes
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>>131144928
sully is shy at first but once you get her going...
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yejibros we have diabetes type 2
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>>131144909
Shalom! ILLIT actually look up to israel fems, especially eunchae and yunjin
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>>131144889
>Lily is the best hapa in K-pop history
better than Danni???
>>
>>131144931
ngl I'd fuck cub before irene
>>
PSYCHO might be the only good RV song.
>>
what the heck
>>
>>131144937
when tf did yeon debut in newjeans
>>
>>131144940
very awful taste
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>>131144918
sana miyeon guam vacation threesome fuuucckkk gues i have to rewatch the vlog now
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>>131144914
smooth or crunchy and did you put butter on the toast before the peanut butter?
>>131144937
dani my beloved
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I wish I was that mole
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>>131144944
actor propriety
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Around 10-15 years ago, when I watch Inkigayo or Music Bank, every group that performed had something to offer. Nowadays, almost every month there is a debut group and they are all the same. There is nothing special about them anymore.

Also, I reckon these days, groups are formed as a backup for one or two members. Only one or two are popular and are heavily promoted by the company. There is clear favoritism. What's sad is that those popular members are only good looking, they aren't even the most talented one in the team.
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>>131144889
lily vs shannon arrumie williams vocal battle
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Do not disrespect RV's music
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https://www.youtube.com/live/2SwZ8ylevFU
our girls are here!!
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>>131144955
who are you talking to
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sully is not shy she was courting gaypops at isac
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>>131144962
sorry
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>>131144962
it's the reddit reposter bot
just ignore it
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>>131144952
crunchy and no i hate the overpowering taste of butter mixed with other spreads
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gangbanging is an official sport and i'm tired of you all pretending sully isn't a champion
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>>131144774
Ni-ki is a prima donna pussy who should cut his little rice dick off and offer it to her family for atonement.
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LSF are embodiment of unholy trinity.
Slut-cunt-whore
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>>131144955
yep. newjeans were the last group holding the line. they gave us hope. now its all in tatters. we face the long descent into hell.
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shit filler groups have always existed
music quality right now is pretty good wouldn't want to trade it in for the 3rd gen for sure
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>>131144974
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the skinwalkers are still going? :/
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diabetes is a must
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>>131144980
I would get her pissed off every day to see her look at me like that
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>>131144976
impressive thighs
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>>131144970
i love hanni so much
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>>131144978
but only nugus have good music (this definition is important)
big 4 slop goes in the garbage bin
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>>131144977
Newjeans and 50-50 could have been great but they gave in to the temptation of Satan.
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>>131144987
based atheart appreciator
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>>131144978
>music quality right now is pretty good
lmao
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>>131144964
>>131144974
isn't sully dead? she was the one in that film "real" with kim so hyun where she gets her baps out (quite nice i must say) and then from the backlash, she commits sudoku?
>>131144970
oh im sorry you feel that way friend. i love some unsalted butter with thick white bread and pnut butter
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>>131144978
overall idols skills are better
music is better
girls are fine
the only thing we lost is vlive and tv idols shows thats it
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>>131144883
that's a scam
there's no fish
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So how much did NJ have to pay?
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>>131144986
same
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>>131144959
that's one lucky yejibro
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paying 2 homeless dudes $50 to kidnap Eunchae for me the next time they tour america
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>>131144994
>music is better
you're literally insane
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>>131144853
my mouth
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>>131144993
that's sulli not sully
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>>131144987
5th gen is starting better than 4th gen did


>>131144992
it's true
if you disagree you probably don't even listen to a lot of kpop

>>131144994
weverse is so shit
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>>131145001
he's not
you only remember the good old parts and forgot all the filler shit
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>>131145005
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>>131144844
my tongue
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No female idols group fan has been an-heroed.
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>>131145004
>>131145006
18+ to post here



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