I miss old /mu/
>>131175920why the fuck did old mu have kanye and the antlers. They suck!
What even is /mu/core and the board culture now? Olivia Rodrigo and KPop? Fucking hell.
>>131175920never understood why MPP of all albums
>>131175971it's their most accessible album
>>131175920THE ONLY GIRL I'VE EVER LOOOOOOOOOVED
>>131175920>not a single beatles threadbetter times
>>131175920>not a single emily armstrong thread better times
I WANNA SEE OLIVIA’s RODRIGO
>>131175971It was THE defining Pitchfork/hipster/indie album of 2009. The hype surrounding its release was very entertaining important in the formation of this board's golden age culture.
>>131175920>no spiderlandWhy do so many of these charts omit one of the most essential /mu/core albums. Fucking casuals need to lurk moar
>>131175920I still to this day don't know how the antlers snuck onto /mu/core lists. Who is responsible for that shite?
>>131176716Ehhh is it really that essential>>131176772>>131175936Fuck you hospice still rocks you guys are just bitter
>>131175920>landfill indie goyslop for redditorslol this board has always been dogshit
>>131176772It was /mu/core for like a year before everyone got sick of it and started calling it cringe.>>131176916Spiderland was really big for a while. Like at least as big as most of the /mu/core albums
>>131176984The good thing about old /mu/ was that it had so much traffic and the board culture incentivized exploring and sharing music so even if you thought the /mu/core albums were all shit you could still find a dozen people to talk about your favorite obscure 70s cambodian funk record with you.
>>131176716>>131176985Based, Spiderland was peak sub-/mu/core
never liked over the aeroplane
There never was any /mu/core, it's just copypasted pitchfork-core
>>131175971jam of a lifetime
>>131175920garbage
>>131175920I don't/mu/ was never good
>millenial Brian Wilson in the top rowI don't miss it
>>131175920if that was the old /mu/ then i'm glad it's dead and gone. good riddance.
>wonder what's going on in /mu/> 12 kpop generalsyeah it's so over
>>131179947Worst part is even with all the kpop threads, the board only has less than 50% of its original traffic from 5 years ago. If they removed that this board would be deader than /po/
>>1311759203 good and 5 great albums
>>131175920okay all of these albums are dogshit except for kanyeold /mu/ had terrible taste
>>131180111weird bait, the kanye is clearly the worst one there
>>131180003good, rym and aoty are infinitely better spaces for music discussion than this shit site where everything hates everything and joins threads about shit they dont like just to tell everyone how much they not like it and then spend half their day arguing
>>131179947>>131180003closest thing I've seen to old /mu/ was the lead up to Inferno this year, we had like 15+ BoC generals. It was nice. But yeah there's no point in coming here anymore, it's completely stagnant, there's no subculture anymore, all the cool people left. You are LITERALLY and unironically better off on reddit indieheads or something like that.
>>131180136it doesn't have to be this way.
only good album here is loveless and maybe deathconciousness
>>131180144>15+ BoC generalsWorst thing that happened to this board since kendrik/drake beef
>>131175960pitchfork isnt paid to shill indie music to increase traffic to their website anymore cause websites are a dead meme due to social media. you're left with the shills of the ones who really need the promo lol i.e. >>131175960there was never a culture./mu/ was always astroturfed. it was just slightly less apparent to the average moron here. shit's been dead for more than a decade.
>>131175920damn that's a lot of weak white man music. i wonder why it got shilled so hard
>>131180330an easily ignored boc general was the worst thing that happened since normalgroid spam about some gay beef?kill yourself today
>>131176120-ACK!
>>131180860We still hated them
>>131180907If that's true, why did you include them in the chart?
>>131180144It really hit home for me how dead /mu/ is this year when new Gorillaz and Kanye West albums came and went like a blip on a radar. Back in 2010, Plastic Beach and MBDTF left this board unusable for weeks.
>>131180969Are you seriously comparing MBDTF with that Dave Blunts mixtape?
>>131180979Not especially, but the stark difference is noticeable all the same. Gorillaz did come out with arguably their best since Plastic Beach though, and that maybe garnered a half dozen drip feed threads.
coz plastic beach had actual hitsthat new indian slop they released didnt have 1
>>131181253>Appeal to popularity
>>131180924No answer
>>131181295>why less popular less talked about!!!!?
>>131180359pre-MRA and -MGTOW the majority of young men still believed in feminist lies such as it being okay to be sensitive
>>131176916in the attic of the universe is better
>>131177061>over the airplaneits INTO the airplane under the sea
>>131181900You knew what i was referring to though.
I miss when /mu/ used to unironically talk about Merzbow. I mean the music is ass and always has been, but the threads were interesting to go through.
>>131180111Nigger worship
>>131175960Yes, this board is dead.
>>131180924Why won't they answer this question?
>>131164299>On the modern internet you can't keep a community without heavy moderation. I don't like it either, but it's true. One insane schizo can ruin a community of thousands on a whim and because of advanced mental illness they just won't stop, ever.
>>131176984/Thread
>>131177081This lol
>>131180349>mu/ was always astroturfedElaborate?
>>131175920pffftttt loveless is the only worthwhile album in this shitty pic
>>131185522>>131180298King Crimson, Radiohead and The Avalanches albums are better than Loveless
>>131185522Shut the fuck up
>>131185583loveless did more for music than your radioheadbongslop
>>131175936>why the fuck did old mu have kanyeWhy wouldn't old /mu/ have the greatest musician of all time? There's actual slop on there like Weezer and Radiohead and you're singling out Kanye?
kpop threads were already here back in 2009; it's the only thing that has survived
>i miss the old /mu/>weezer>radiohead>arcade fire>/mu/s starter pack
>>131185894Beatles as well
>>131175920I miss when we circlejerked MBV and AnCo. Zoomers only want to talk about bad music like banal top 40 shlock.
>>131185965The people on /mu/ mostly aren't zoomers. They're retarded late millenials who home board /pol/ and /v/ and come here to talk about dadrock mingling with actual mentally ill waifu fags. Zoomers are on Instagram, reddit, or rym and while they are generally more into poptimism than millenials were there are still plenty of MBV and AnCo fags.
>>131185965i am genuinely so happy we never have animal collective threads anymore, or very few. greasy trustfund kids taking drugs and making shitty music
>>131186397>anco is bad because they're not poorcancerous mindset
>>131186397Better than whatever trash you listen to.
>>131185965>>131186397Animal Collective was the only /mu/core band I truly hated and did not respect the opinions of anyone who loved Merriweather Post Pavilion.
anco is genuinely terrible I’m glad we can all agree on this now
>>131175920Every album is that picture other than In the Court of the Crimson King and Trout Mask Replica sucks.
>>131186454I don't agree with this at all.
>>131186397>>131186440>>131186454noooooo noisy experimental music can't be fun!!
>>131175920>MBDTFlollmao
>>131186457wtf do you see in Trout Mask Replica?
>>131186494If you listen to it a couple of times and listen to it a side at a time you start to appreciate how unique the interplay between instruments is. There are catchy melodies and rhythms all over the place, they just sound chaotic at first.
MPP is good, plebs/mu/ shit all over Centipede Hz when it came out, but I still like that album Painting With is when they became terrible
>>131185763Said it thousands of times, but the indie hipster culture as a whole faded out so all that's left is waifufags
>>131186713In retrospect, Animal Collective should have just totally sold out after MPP.Find a good mainstream producer who can make their choruses really loud punchy while keeping some experiential stuff but have Avey lay off the screeching a bit. They had the songwriting ability, and they probably would have been remembered more fondly this way.
>>131175920I've still yet to hear a single k-pop release that wasn't dated as hellAtleast j-pop with hatsune miku did some crazy stuff with shoegaze and glitch hop back in the day
>>131185965Some of us are here and ready to talk about proper shit if you are willing to ignore ragebaiting retards of our generation.>>131186218You forgot discord. Tons of people on fucking discord.>>131185497There was real /mu/core and rymcore you dickheads either don't care or are being malicious shits. >>131181834It's still okay to be sensitive you just have to find a partner in this current climate. >>131180111Fuck off then. This is an Indie board.>>131176984Landfill Indie is the 5 - 6 / 10 that got shilled by journalists. Calling the whole thing landfill should get you shot.>>131180136Maybe if the rest of the internet wasn't full of people gaslighting people then people wouldn't feel the need to fucking vent here.
>>131186713>Painting with is when they became terribleExcept Painting with on a second listen-through is exceptionally good. Everyone overacted to the complete fucking trash that was Golden Girl and it just spoiled the album. It admittedly has some low lows (The Burglars, Spilling Guts, Hocus Pocus) but how the fuck would any Animal Collective fan pass on Vertical, Lying on the Grass, On Delay and Natural Selection?Then of course, everyone thought Flori-da-da was trash when it was incredibly catchy, I have no idea what /mu/ was smoking about that.Lets not forget, the b-side album had this absolute perfect time capsuled gem of a songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgiDrYTdNmE
>>131175920that period is over and will never come back. the sooner you accept that the happier you'll be.
>anco>goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqQ7tU26Q6E
>>131175920anon i...
'member sharethreads? It's so weird that such a huge part of old /mu/ that I found so much cool music through is completely dead now.
>>131193197honestly yeah. spotify is cool and everything, but there's not as much of a social component as file sharing.
Remember when there wasn't 20 fucking kpop threads in the log? It's literally just gooner bullshit.
/mu/ died when last.fm updated
>>131193358what happened in the last.fm update?
>>131193348/V/ is like that too now it's so annoying
>>131193380years ago they update their site and the /mu/ plug-in broke killing last.fm threads. They also got rid of friends and started using followers as well as removing neighbors and most of the useful social networking features.
>>131175936>>131176916Hospice is melodramatic nonsense
>listen-along threads>singalong threads>trip fag drama>fantano was just starting out>last.fm threads>file sharing threads>discovering the origin of ITAOTS cover art>Centipede Hz launch threads>mbv launch threadsthose were the days
>Jenny Death when>Oceangrunge
/mu/ is dying because 4chan is depopulating. If people are going to discuss music, it's probably on twitter now. Like I said, the moment Twitter stops being free is the moment 4chan springs back.
>>131175920I miss pre-/pol/-takeover 4chan
>>131194538me too, I hate it when I'm trying to participate in a friendly conversation and someone starts spamming the N word
>>131193404>An album expressing the complicated emotions that occur when dating a mentally ill BPD woman is melodramaticexcellent observation sherlock
>>131175920Constantly spamming this limp-wristed landfill indie trash for a decade killed /mu/. Not /pol/, not Kpop, it was you geriatric fuckers who make all these "bawww /mu/ is dead" threads because the board finally evolved and attracted new posters despite your best efforts to gatekeep it as a P4K-parroting hugbox for all eternity. You used to be with it. But then they changed what it was. Now what you're with isn't it. But you're still here. Listen up uncs. You are old as fuck and the faggy shit you grew up listening to is literal ear-poison to the current generation of /mu/ users. Could you BE any more washed? Longing for the past like the sad old failures you obviously are. You had your time but you refuse to let go. You want to be young forever? Kill yourselves. It's a highly effective way to slow the aging process. Beats just hanging around here like a lingering fart that refuses to be wafted the fuck out. Bitching and moaning about zoomers and muh "old /mu/" as if old /mu/ wasn't a total shithole. All of your "/mu/ essentials" were stolen straight from P4K. You guys were useful slaves for a site that never gave a single fuck about you and sold out to a corporation the second they got enough shekels. And you shilled this slop FOR FREE. Jesus. Fucking Neutral Milk Hotel are so far beyond dead meme status in 2026 it's impossible to tell someone parodying "old /mu/" uncs from the genuine dementia-ridden spamming of this heavily decomposed indie slop from OG "oldfags". You fuckers always say /mu/ is dead. So why are you still here? Because you have nowhere else to go, I know. It's very sad. But it's time you were all gassed. Time to kill the past. You will be processed into fertilizer and used to grow flowers. Isn't that nice?
>>131197632what's some music that you like?
Where is everyone discussing music now that isn't RYM? Internet seems deader than dead.
>>131197928
>>1311980454cuck filename Post your own one!
>>131175920>>131197632/mu/ has no interest in music other than as social capital. They consume enough music that their ability to appreciate the art becomes atrophied and the main goal is to listen to more obscure stuff.They are remarkably in love with off-kilter pop music for a board full of people who take pride in their passion for experimental music, and arguments devolve into interminable baiting between "it's boring" / "no, it's good" / "no, it's shit" because nobody has any basic knowledge of music theory or ability to articulate their opinions beyond "feels."The few informed listeners of academic music spend their time signaling to the rest of the board and leverage their taste for fifteen minutes of online pseudo-notoriety./mu/ consists of people who aren't as weird as they like to think but use their ample free time and piracy to invest in a hobby that makes them feel special or sophisticated, allowing them to compensate for their lack of social skills and failures in concrete or academic pursuits.The biggest irony is that the vast majority of /mu/ is a hivemind ruled by a handful of online tastemakers mostly concerned with maintaining a balance between supporting "alternative" pop that will appeal to misunderstood teenagers and maintaining street cred among bored college students who constantly seek out "experimental" music for their mild amusement, negating the cultivation of individual taste or critical thinking in relation to music.It's a feedback loop of posturing, masturbatory attitudes, and enough layers of irony to suffocate any hope of meaningful conversation. This last element--irony--is vital to allowing /mu/ and similar collectives to ignore the reality of their situation and disregard posts as this one with little more than tongue-in-cheek one-word responses. One-word critiques of albums: "This album is boring" and nothing else.Deep down you all know you're going nowhere in life and this is all a farce
I miss the old mu yehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ch8g-sJb6ow
>>131197632Weird post considering every other week someone sparks interest in 80's shit due to Tiktok memes.
>>131198045I mean it's good but it's pitchforkcore
>>131189063>Except Painting with on a second listen-through is exceptionally good.It isn't, and I say this as somebody who loved it when it first came out. Floridada remains a top tier AnCo track, thoughbeit.
>>131198251Re-Listen to Vertical, I implore you.
We had major artists come here during its prime days, but no one during the zoomer era. Interesting.
>>131198206tiktok memes dont mean ppl ac like that shit
New /mu/ doesn't like anything except bitching about everything. They've become Stan from that one episode of South Park where they think everything sounds like literal shit.
>>131188996>Fuck off then. This is an Indie board.
>>131198130>Deep down you all know you're going nowhere in life and this is all a farceI used to know this but I long since deleted this threatening information from my hard drive because knowing I am the only one with the ability to change my situation made me feel uncomfortable and I prefer being comfortable to being uncomfortable. I'm just a cork on the ocean. Admittedly I hate myself more for believing this lie is true every single day but I'm comfortable with the ever increasing self-loathing and I prefer being comfortable to being uncomfortable. I am, and have always been, a hapless victim of a cruel and unforgiving fate and I have always been totally powerless to change any of this. Everyone but me is to blame for the choices that I've made. Cork. Ocean. Simple as.
>>131200589nah it's just that none of you fucks has a soul so you mistake simulacra of emotions as actual emotions. people with a soul can tell the difference but cant explain why and thats what causes the drift of the souled ones away from the imbecility of the whole thing. this board has been dead for more than a decade. i dunno if it was ever alive aside from the memes (no art, just memes)
>>131180136truth nuke. /mu/ probably has to be the worst place online to sincerely discuss music, the threads that aren't dedicated to gooning over industry plant foids will either be completely ignored or only interacted with to insult and argue. feel like i'm better off just joining discord servers dedicated to my favorite artists / genres and sperging out there
>>131200466Spotify numbers for a song after Tiktok starts a meme with it skyrocket.Who the fuck was listening to The Rare Occasions? Fucking nobody, yet Notion sits at a billion hits on the app, above their next most popular song all because of memes.
>>131200936ye notice how no other song from these artists ever profits from it
>>131200958Well to be fair if it's a one hit wonder group that makes sense, but even then if they're decent all their other shit gets a good boost. Not everyone looking into it is going to like the other shit.
>>131175920I wish I could find the retards who memed kanye and hospice on this and beat them unconscious
>>131180924>>131180907Still no answer
>>131181900wrong dumbass it's over the old aeroplane and the sea
>>131176716>>131176916>>131177002Spiderland is a top 3 /mu/core album up there only with in the aeroplane over the sea and Loveless as far as influence and importance on thise board. Check the archive its been discussed and memed to death on this board from the very beginning
>>131175920/mu/ was never good.
KPOP boardhttps://desuarchive.org/mu/search/text/Kpop%20general/type/op/order/asc/
>>131175920it's so over. Fuck kslop, get your own board gooners. 10+ maxxed out threads at any given time
>>131209486>>131209656based
>>131175936mbtdf get a best new music and /mu/ became a rap safe haven overnight
The fact that so many books still name the Beatles as "the greatest or most significant or most influential" rock band ever only tells you how far rock music still is from becoming a serious art. Jazz critics have long recognized that the greatest jazz musicians of all time are Duke Ellington and John Coltrane, who were not the most famous or richest or best sellers of their times, let alone of all time. Classical critics rank the highly controversial Beethoven over classical musicians who were highly popular in courts around Europe. Rock critics, instead, are still blinded by commercial success. The Beatles sold more than anyone else (not true, by the way), therefore they must have been the greatest. Jazz critics grow up listening to a lot of jazz music of the past, classical critics grow up listening to a lot of classical music of the past. Rock critics are often totally ignorant of the rock music of the past, they barely know the best sellers
i remember the last.fm threads. i was trying to curate my listening so i had a based last 7 days. the less listeners on last.fm the better. it felt so incredibly gay. now i listen to kpop 24/7
Indie is lowkey chud-coded. Many indiefags are closet nazis, not even memeing.
albums you got from old /mu/ that changed your life?
>>131175920most of them are good records but>anco*cringe* what were we thinking bros
>>131210932I don't get nu-mu anco hate, their old albums hold up
>>131210931None/mu/ just parroted whatever P4K liked, so why not to P4K instead, cut out the middleman
>>131210974because discussions are more fun than reading some gay reviewer
>>131210957I guess I grew out of them
>>131210974people made fun of p4k garbage back then. this place was more how unhinged and obscure was your taste more than anything. you'd get trolled if your last.fm library was popular shit or p4k stuff
>>131211030No, it definitely was nothing like that. /mu/ parroted P4K, it parroted Scaruffi, it parroted Fantano and even some Christgau. You might've made fun of P4K but most of /mu/ culture was derived directly from it.You might've been posting threads with obscure shit that got zero replies, but that
>>131211108/mu/ liked some p4k stuff but not all p4k stufflooking back at old p4k now, their top album of 2011 was Bon Iver - Bon Iver, which I barely ever saw discussed here
>>131180298that's just untrue
/mu/ died because zoomers only use spotify and whatever it automatically curates to them, the few who go beyond that go to the first google result. No need to search out shit on forums and sharethreads
>>131180136>aotyhey i've never heard of this before, thanks
>>131198130this applied maybe a little under a decade ago now it's just nothingand nobody successful is posting on 4chan anyways, including you
It was shit.
>>131210900>shit I made up
>pretending to like shitty music to look superior and fit inThe only difference I'm seeing is now over 1/10th of the catalog is dedicated to threads pretending to be about music while really being about celebrity gossip and gooning to photos, and a lot more threads pretending to be about music while really being about politics and the culture war.
>>131218000What specifically is shitty?
>>131218000The majority of threads now are either >stealth polfag culture war spam>kpop related waifu spam >emily armstrong waifu spam >misc. waifu spam made by the emilyfag to “normalize” his unfortunate behavior >stealth self promo the board is dead
>>131218095Where do we go then? I refuse to join Reddit and AOTY requires you to wait a week to do anything after registration. You can't even add albums until a month later.
>>131218151Reddit isn’t so bad. It’s at least better than this place
>>131218242Yeah if you're some insufferable updooter.
>>131218264>mindbroken by popularity better than chuds and corrupt mods but you do you
>>131193197Why did they disappear?It's the only reason I came back to this edgy bait wank site
>>131218287You threaten to leave for Reddit all the time but never do. Practice what you preach and lead by example or keep posting here like the bitchmade coward you are. Politics are no substitute for character. Doesn't matter if you're a chud, libertarian, liberal or leftist. If you're attitude is shit, you are shit. Simple as that.
>>131218391>t. still can’t comprehend how to read and understand words
>>131218319Two different trolls, one was using it for self promo and another was angry at another anon, would shit up every share thread. The threads could’ve lived on if the trolls were banned but the mods here don’t like to do their easy job
>>131218431What a shame. Literally the best thing about this board and you all got bullied into stopping baka no cap bruvhttps://youtu.be/oAArth7j6jg?is=xlB9r351FFT55nWuBest artist I ever found in one of those threads.You people.
>>131218319We had one like 3 days ago but it died 35 replies in.
>>131218477People here are happy to pay slave wages to artists through Spotify but not own it for free I guessI'll keep my eyes open and try to contribute if I see one
>>131198460Vertical is okay, not amazing.
>>131218431>one was using it for self promoWayne Garf i'm guessing>>131218431>and another was angry at another anonDon't know if I was a part of this but that was genuine manchild meltdowns on my end.>>131218477I was waiting for someone else to share and I let it die off. I could've kept it going
>>131218477>>131218539>>131219181>>131219290new thread>>131219181I probably scared people off with my egotistical bullshit but I can make it work.
>>131175971FOUR WALL AND ADOBE SLABS BRO SPORT IS THE JAM OF A LIFETIME
>>131193633>Keep it 300>Like the Romans>300 in Roman Numerals is CCC>CCC stands for Calm Cool and Collected>MFW Kanye is a genius
>>131210931Good memory, ty
>>131175920>two radiohead albums
>>131175920>I miss when the same dozen albums were the only thing posted all day
>>131219659there was more to it. stop being disingenuous. You weren't there for the Burmese cassette stuff.
>>131219835True this is my first time posting here
>>131180860You'd be called a dadrocker and spammed with the ruffi pasta for posting a dedicated beatles thread
>>131193197Sharethreads were superfluous once zippyshare and related filesharing sites faded away, a win for p2p music because those sites blew ass. Wait 5 minutes to click a link to download v2 mp3s at 10kbps
>>131220170fair enough
