I always thought it was dumb how mad people got about Milli Vanilli because who gives a fuck if you liked the music, but I watched the documentary about them and kek>surviving guy says how scared they were about being exposed for not singing>cut to screenshots of an interview the dead one did where he was saying “It’s way harder to sing Milli Vanilli songs than Beatles or Rolling Stones songs”Like why would you be like this when you were at risk of being exposed??And the documentary saying>hmmm the two public facing guys pretending to be the singers got all the hate, but not the producer behind it all??He actually wrote some of the music and produced it and was actually involved in making the music. So first off, he was actually more Milli Vanilli than they were. And second off he wasn’t in the public eye of course he didn’t get as much flack for it because he wasn’t on tv in interviews pretending he was a genius musician. And their songs sucked anyway
Because no other group prior had ever pretended yo be major touring musicians while never singing a note on their own records. It was a fabricative step too far, even for a decade as phony as the 1980s.(There are allergy some modern artists that play it pretty close. J.Lo supposedly is barely audible between the layers of vocal doublers her producers coat her in on stage and on record.)
>>131283166The guy who produced them actually did it before with Boney M, the disco band that plays Rasputin, Daddy Cool, Ma Baker and Sunny
>>131283166>Because no other group prior had ever pretended yo be major touring musicians while never singing a note on their own records.Their producer had literally done the exact same thing with Boney M and gotten away with it. The only reason the Milli Vanilli thing blew up like it did is because he flew too close to the sun and tried to bring his model to America, where we had a surplus of real talent and no need for miming.
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>>131283089it wasn't just that they lip synced on stage. loads of groups do that to music they actually sang and recordedmilli vanilli didn't do that. they didn't do anything except lip sync what others wrote and sang and recorded. they were 100% fakeand they won a grammy and other shit being fake.
it was better than ai at least
>>131283089>A March 1990 issue of Time quoted Pilatus proclaiming himself "the new Elvis" and saying that Milli Vanilli were more talented than Bob Dylan, Paul McCartney and Mick Jagger.[19] In an interview with the Los Angeles Times later that year, Pilatus said this was a misunderstandingLipsyncing was common, but the fact that they were saying shit like this in interviews when not only were they not singing on the records, but couldn't fucking sing at all was why they became a laughing stock
>>131283524Yeah that’s what I’m saying, I didn’t know that before I watched the documentary, like no shit you got endlessly flamed when you were pretending to be masterful artists when you weren’t even doing shit but dancing. And the music isn’t even that good, especially compared to music in the same genre at the time lol like wtf were they thinking. At least be humble
>>131283089>he was actually more Milli Vanilli than they were.no what made them was the real actual singers whose songs they lip synced over. producer knew the actual singers are too old and ugly so why don’t we trick people into thinking these cute guys are singing… which is what enraged everyone. same reason chris ott spergs out (correctly) about the C+C music factory performances… real singer is off stage. https://youtu.be/EGQi3I1v9iw
>>131283191>>131283224To be fair in Boney M the female members of the group did actually sing their parts.>>131283642Frank Farian was himself a capable singer, he did the male parts on Boney M.
Princess Toadstool loved Milli Vanilli
>>131283735And she cucked Mario so who gives a fuck what she thinks
>>131283626I would have liked Oasis more if they were humble. Now I just like them for Noel shitting on Liam.
>>131283524Supposedly they had been lobbying Farian to let them sing behind the scenes the whole time and he'd keep stringing them along and never letting them do it. I wouldn't be surprised if they, either consciously or subconsciously, gave those ridiculous interview answers to speed up their exposure and fuck Farian over. Unfortunately it didn't work since he was the only one in this whole mess who emerged unscathed.
>>131283089I guess the industry decided to make a scapegoat out of the producer who flew too close to the sun. As I understand it was a pretty common thing for pop music back in the day for short-lived projects
>>131283626they sold a lot of records, in the 80s they were liked
>>131283089To quote RYM user Zephos, "The drums on this sound like a fucking Sonic the Hedgehog game." There can be no higher recommendation. Music peaked in the late 80s. This beats everything in today's pop charts.
>>131283321Actually what caused a scandal was that they won a Grammy and the other showbizz monkeys got terminally mad about it and cried foulIf they didn't win the top pop award, they might have been tolerated and it would just all fizzle out as some industry rumourBut ironically what destroyed them was their success
>>131283859>I guess the industry decided to make a scapegoat out of the producer who flew too close to the sunhe already had it coming for Boney-M.millions of people watched an acrobatic dancing nigger singing with the voice of a shlager bavarian and thought it was perfectly normal
People were already skeptical of them actually singing before it was proven because they were Germans and spoke with heavy german accents in broken english during interviews yet they're singing in perfect English on their songs?
>>131285295people just assumed the guy was german himself despite being black.
>>131283089The Jason Arday of music. Even visually similar as well. I think their songs are catchy though.
>>131285393it has nothing to do with being german, something just felt wrong about it.normies doing a "current thing" scandal about mili vanilli was fucking ridiculous anyway, as if they hadn't been listening to placeholder models doing lip-syncing for decades already.
>German guy writes and produces all the music>hires a bunch of blacks as frontmen because he figures American audiences will like his stuff better if they think blacks made it>it works>Americans find out>they call him evil???
>>131285894this.it says more about amerimutts than anything else
>>131286090He did it successfully in Europe first, so what does that say about yuromutts? You guys cheered and slurped up the fakeness from Boney M, we rejected it from Milli Vanilli.
>>131285111Yeah, this german guy was too cocky; nobody would give a shit, but he stole Grammy from someone influential, who decided to destroy him for real
>>131286866you have a point, everything in europe was fake amerimutt music translated and repackaged since the 50's. i guess we got used to it
>>131283430but not much better
the real milli was the vanilli we made on the wayholy fuck can someone literally launch nukes against google alreadydo a google image search for 'happy basedjak' and the entire result is basedjak stickers, pillow, mugs, etc on amazon, etsy, ebay, etc.
>>131283089 They should have blamed it on the rain or on the stars that shine at night , (but whatever you do don't put the blame on you , blame it on the rain, yeah yeah )
>>131285894The guys doing the actual singing were also black numbnuts
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>>131283806good example.being humble is always good - but if you're truly elite like Bach or Pink Floyd or MJ you can be arrogant.but a jumped-up pub band like Oasis should be nothing but humble
>>131293147>basedjak stickers, pillow, mugs, etc on amazon, etsy, ebay, etcthe revolution will be merchandized
in the early 90s ‘authenticity’ in music was a still a big deal among both fans and the industry. sure you had kiddie shit like NKOTB but they weren’t a threat to win Grammys. there was also the existential threat of faceless europop and dance music taking over.
>>131286090it doesn't really say a whole lot than what Germans perceived Americans to be. In any case its why Europeans begging for our aid and then hand waving us away seems so bizarre. very womanlike behavior.
They got to score with Wendy Koopa, so i can't feel sorry for them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wK6-jYyCu4
>>131296288Yeah because Americans definitely don't worship blacks