Turina editionhttps://youtu.be/a3pg8aiy3SAThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>131334597
The Medtner Hamelin set might really be his best work, followed by his Alkan.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-2sWHafl6s&list=OLAK5uy_lNbF9ADgDRCsx05bzFIAgf1WU7FVrBWBo&index=10Granted, there isn't much competition.
Gonna go through all of Ashkenazy's Rachmaninoff for piano.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3-GdnAuMIM&list=OLAK5uy_l_5guPdsQZ1KWRANtERTuPcoPLV54JPhg&index=56Seems they went with the Haitink set over the Previn one for the piano concertos, fine by me. The former contains a gravitas I like, it's almost teutonic, whereas Previn's is more in the traditional fantastical and graceful Russian mold.
There is nothing more difficult than deciding which set of Ravel's piano works to listen to. Bavouzet, Thibaudet, Gieseking, Francois, Crossley, Osbourne, Hewitt, Chamayou, Lortie, Cho, Simon, Roge, Entremont, Destounis, Thiollier, Poizat, Larderet, Perlemuter, Carbonara, and even more than that. It's insane.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw1zysyOnv8&list=OLAK5uy_kaAqUd71rs-Qce7Zl35o59AuQ6f-E_oI8&index=1
listening to mahler 9 adagio in the bath hbu?
now playingstart of Lyatoshynsky: Symphony No. 3, Op. 50:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiNUt3sh3M8&list=OLAK5uy_lVo5p0ht1iK9oOU6jyvIhRzLFeCQXfDqY&index=2Lyatoshynsky: Grazhyna, Op. 58https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFGA5trGhPY&list=OLAK5uy_lVo5p0ht1iK9oOU6jyvIhRzLFeCQXfDqY&index=5https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lVo5p0ht1iK9oOU6jyvIhRzLFeCQXfDqY>With their second album on Chandos, the highly lauded team of the Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra and its Chief Conductor, Kirill Karabits, presents another volume in their surround-sound series Voices from the East . This is music very close to the heart of the native Ukrainian Karabits: Boris Lyatoshynsky taught orchestration to his father, Ivan Karabits. Having absorbed the music of the Russian tradition and late-nineteenth-century Western European romanticism, Lyatoshynsky shaped his personal voice under the influence of twentieth-century modernist movements such as expressionism, as well as Ukrainian folk music, becoming a self-professed national composer. >The premiere of Symphony No. 3 could not be given until Lyatoshynsky had rewritten the finale to accord with Communist Party requirements, the original movement having met with objections from the Soviet authorities. On this recording the symphony is heard as originally conceived. The symphonic ballad Grazhyna was written to mark the centenary of the death of Poland s greatest poet, Adam Mickiewicz (1798-1855). Both works are confidently played by the BSO under a conductor whose musical decisions have the authority of one who directly embodies the legacy of the composer.
>>131358102Listening to Nick Drake rn, but I'll listen to whatever you recommend next, despite how awful the suggestion might be.
I need the most obnoxious audience noise you've ever heard in the middle of a performance.
This is a game-over performance. It can't be topped.
>>131358250thank you HIPster sister
>>131358254Not a HIPster at all. In fact, I despise most HIPster shit.Have you listened to it?
>>131358301Maybe you're not, but Gardiner is, and that recording is with his HIP orchestra, so yeah, it's reasonable. How are we supposed to know what you like when you're posting anonymously and the only data point we have is a HIP recording?
>>131358301>Have you listened to it?I think I peeped the first movement but then decided I ought to hear his first Missa Solemnis instead. It was aiight. I'm actually open to HIP choral recordings. I promise I'll try that one next time I listen to it.
John Eliot Gardiner fucks you. He fucks you so hard you can't even relate. You can't compromise. You can't adjust.He fucks you hard, he fucks you deep, he fucks you long.100% pure bred English Dick. In your ears, in your mind, in your music.John Eliot Gardiner fucks you beyond your own capacity to understand. He fucks and and sucks you to the grave, to the second life, to the astral realm.Bow before JEG's Mass. The Mass Grave of your resistance to the Empire.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT6vRpmyiW0
>>131358356My question still stands. Just listen to it. It's the best, period, full stop, don't argue.
>>131358366I love getting fucked by John Elliot Gardiner, especially when it's through Beethoven
Wagnerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpS7vCN98pc&list=OLAK5uy_lud3N8dtB6JyvFIVopu14oVaLn7yKLeJo&index=1
>>131358366Modernist hack.
Martinuhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNMjVI6zjzg&list=OLAK5uy_k4T9TGlEQqO7Xw7xKRDs99FIS6vON3rVA&index=16
>>131359206Meh
>>131358235listen to any live recording of an italian opera in italy
HIP isn't inherently philosophically superior in any way to other modes of performance, it just coincidentally happens to have all of the best recordings
>>131359507Oops meant to write HISS.
Who knew Wagner could compose good music for the piano?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gBcxhv1FgA
Why is literally any instrument less repulsive and more enjoyable than even the best singers?
>>131359619Because you are a soulless husk.
>>131359619because they were specifically, consciously honed over centuries for their beautiful sound unlike the human voice which has been subject to far more complex and various pressures in the course of its evolutionary development, or alternatively because you're autistic
>>131359619The human voice remains unsurpassable in musical expression. There's a reason conductors sing a phrase to the orchestra and not play it on a piano. If you don't appreciate operatic singing you're either listening to bad singers or you're simply a philistine.
>>131359595It's garbage, sorry anon.
>>131359595Am I wrong to say that the violin is the real star of any piano/violin duo?
>>131359633Instruments were created by humans, the voice was created by God
>>131359780Yes, you are right.
>>131359780There is no god. The voice was not "created", it evolved.
>>131358250probably the better Gardiner recording, but Toscanini (1953) is the gold standard
Hello, I like Michael Nyman
>mfw creationist """people""" in my /classical/
>>131359664That's just because they don't have a theremin at hand
>>131360822Atheist?
>>131360928Atheist what?
>>131360943You
>>131360947Atheist You? What does that mean?
Brittenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGAeBg82Ld8&list=OLAK5uy_lT1fE0VMOairKlHeRT6Is8R_zMKkGh_Pw&index=1one community reviewer wrote,>This is another incredible recording by Maxim Vengerov who I and others I know of believe is the best violinist to have ever lived. It doesn't seem that anyone can touch him at times. His deep, rich tone and his ability to play even the quietest, most melodic passages with an unequalled sense of passion and intensity put him in a class of one.damn
Mahler 8 is the greatest work of music ever written. 9th doesn't even compare
Mahler 9 is the greatest work of music ever written. 8th doesn't even compare
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEq_qrouzvwNo matter how hard I search and look, nothing surpasses this. All my life I have looked and searched but this...this is just peak, this is cleansing for the dirty, purification for the impure and hope for the downtrodden. This is the music that filled Tezuka's heart with the ambition to make Astro Boy, this is the music that raped Miyazaki's mind, this is the music that grounds us on this infertile rock. All from mere music, from notes written on paper. No human can concot such brilliance.Just what was Mozart?
>>131362055Wrong
>>131362080Would Bruckner like Maho if he alive today? Considering he wanted a cunny wife and all
>>131362080Do you really have to post this retarded faggotry?
>>131362122Mozart RAPED your head. You cant comprehend anything else but Mozart, when you wake up, you think of Mozart, MOZART MOZART MOZART is all your life amounts too.
>>131362080MahoAnon, what do you think of this new recording that just dropped of Mozart's 24th PC?>>131357069https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUD2nsybQc8&list=OLAK5uy_l3n5uPChJN-XIxbkXRXNRKz5m8Dax0Sfs&index=1
>>131362182I shall check it out.
Rachmaninoffhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LATIjLUFJCA&list=OLAK5uy_l_5guPdsQZ1KWRANtERTuPcoPLV54JPhg&index=1
>>131362122people here don't know what being funny is actually like so they just throw shit at the wall hoping it sticks
>>131362243It is funny tho
Lohengrin is Wagner but actually good
Lohengrin is Wagner but actually bad
>>131362055True
Beethovenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYo4hhMQBg8&list=OLAK5uy_kBIhT5ff_X63LCXCYw9vWwFkq8q6YK5aE&index=13
WAGNER SYMPHONYFirst movement: Der Fliegende HollanderSecond movement: Siegfried IdyllThird movement: Meistersinger OvertureFinal movement: Lohengrin Overture
>>131362775Wagner Symphony already exists.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlL-MY-kAyI
>>131362775Pretty good, except I'd say make it a five movement symphony and add either the Tristan or Parsifal preludes as the fourth movement.
>>131362809Chill, theirs is one made up of the preludes and overtures. Yours is a symphonic Ring.
>>131362809That isnt written by wagner, but by someone whi retardedly removes the most important part of his work
>>131362831Literally every single note in that arrangement was written by Wagner.
>>131362840One instrument is meant to speak words, swapping that out for one that can't takes away from the music.
>>131362122how new are you that you don't recognise name-swapped wagnerpastas
now playingKissine: Zerkalohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26coD3HaRAQ&list=OLAK5uy_nggY_sv4qsIkCYOoLFH_zv9B3b1Wx8Wio&index=2start of Tchaikovsky: Piano Trio in A Minor, Op. 50https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d_BcoVLWaM&list=OLAK5uy_nggY_sv4qsIkCYOoLFH_zv9B3b1Wx8Wio&index=2https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nggY_sv4qsIkCYOoLFH_zv9B3b1Wx8WioLike I've said before, I like these kinds of recordings/programs where they pair a standard repertoire piece with something contemporary. You don't really see contemporary piano trios much either, so this should be fun!
>>131362266no, man. it really isn't.
>>131362243>>131362266>>131363210Autists have bad sense of humor. That's why Mahosperg can't make a joke. He's also a low IQ Mozartfaggot which doesn't help.
>>131363480This entire general is autistic, my dude. Acting like you're a normal person on a classical music thread on a forum for jerking it to big boobed anime girls, made by a guy who wants to be a little girl is nothing short of delusional.
>>131364093Ad hominem. Your argument is fallacious.
>>131364093I don't deny I'm autistic though. In fact I'm probably the most autistic, weird and antisocial person here. No, I'm not proud of it, it's depressing. But at least I'm not some pathetic christian LARPer obsessed with the worst conductors in the entire world and on a streak of worst takes in the general.
>>131364148>le fallacy memeYou're probably the biggest retard in this general.
Can I be /classical/ if I only listen to keyboard works (concertos apply)?
10/10https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJyBoiu5k58&list=OLAK5uy_nAi9-U6r6yNI8TmhjFMn6WgwSy_XSd8eA&index=1>World premiere recording of an exciting version for string orchestra (by Victor Kissine) of Schubert's last, highly dramatic string quartet, performed with incomparable intensity by the violinist/director Gidon Kremer and his superb chamber orchestra of young musicians from the Baltic states, the Kremerata Baltica. Schubert's last String Quartet, written in 1826, two years before the composer's death, is one of his deepest and most important works. A work of superlatives: its duration of more than 50 minutes surpasses anything the genre had known at the period. Classical form, while still thoroughly observed, is stretched to its very limits. Schubert's expressive spectrum ranges from melodious lyricism to dramatic conflicts of utter harshness. The immense technical demands of Schubert's G-major quartet ask for highly virtuosic players. Gidon Kremer is considered to be one of the most charismatic virtuosos of our time. Here he presents a true musical adventure: A version of the quartet for string orchestra by the Russian Victor Kissine. This is its world premiere recording. While adding double basses to Schubert's score and reinforcing the solo parts, Kissine not only emphasizes the inherent "orchestral" quality of the piece - a subtle shading of Tutti and Solo allows for an even more colourful reading than with the string quartet. Kremer continues his relationship with ECM which dates back to 1984's legendary album 'Tabula Rasa' that put Arvo Prt on the map. Here he leads the Kremerata Baltica, the award-winning chamber orchestra of talented young musicians from the Baltic States he founded in 1997. The orchestra fully matches Kremer's daring expressiveness, displaying a degree of intensity and rhythmical flexibility rarely witnessed with chamber orchestras. Gidon Kremer says this recording is the very best one he has realized with the Kremerata so far
>>131364552Of course. It undoubtedly makes up the majority of my daily classical listening, and on some days, it's all I listen to as well.
>>131364386>I'm probably the most autistic, weird and antisocial person here>I'm not proud of it, it's depressingYou're no autist, just a pathetic failed normie
>>131359619https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX20-4QAA3w
Wife loves saint saens and Tchaikovsky and kinda Strauss and I wanna surprise her with a composer she hasn’t heard of that she’d likeAny recs
>>131365117>Any recsSuicide
>>131365225not classical
>>131365117Poulenc
>>131365117MaraisLullyRameauRebelJongenChabrier>>131365364and this
I just can't listen to any more Wagner, you know... I'm starting to get the urge to conquer Poland.
>>131365117Rachmaninoff seems the obvious choice with either the second symphony or second piano concerto. If you wanna go West, then I promise she'll love Mendelssohn's Violin Concerto.
inside the scornful mind of the average wagnersister
tonight's listen>>131364386>I don't deny I'm autistic though. In fact I'm probably the most autistic, weird and antisocial person here.wew lad
>>131365877Did H. actually love W. like he loved N. or was it just political lip-service? Any quotes on this?
Beethovenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulKEfeHYjow&list=OLAK5uy_mb2NYPz2mB3s6ssyznPpE2IAvETVuqjVQ&index=12
>>131366121I can't stand Kollo's singing, but his acting and understanding of the character is at least pretty good. Serms like the kind of guy who would be better to watch live thatn just listen to in a recording
>>131366165Very distinctive.
Beethovenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS0sFzbz4bw&list=OLAK5uy_nvgry4nBiW_JIDvMLAMDLOxbrI0vIijyI&index=9
Schubert's Wanderer Fantasy is the first piece of his I fell in love withhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yufLlcmUUhE&list=OLAK5uy_l-jERiILkHEXZbDy_Qrek94afdnXaP-Uk&index=1.
>open up recording of Schubert Piano Sonata 21, D.960>look at runtime of first movementwhich do you prefer to see? >14-16minor>20-22minaka, yes to the repeat or nah?14:55https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nxm_TKuVu0U&list=OLAK5uy_mth1on9Q5khzp8RXIZMp7RaENoRnL078I&index=1versus20:31 (which is actually on the faster end for the repeat)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1znxLmcGOXg&list=OLAK5uy_m47yB_Xg8dahq63ZLBBwVbasOzvM1ypUk&index=1
>>131366628https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ib3T5kIMN4&list=OLAK5uy_mrLEZFJv01iQrmU6S8ht2baC60J5eaLLk&index=412 min
>>131366675I usually detest performances with too quick a tempo but this actually sounds really good (so far). Personally, I find most times I listen to the D.960, I get impatient along the way, which is partly why I don't listen to it often (in fact, listen to 958 and 959 far more frequently).
Schubert loves his repeats so much I sometimes wonder if there isn't some deeper philosophical meaning behind it all. But of course I know not really, and he just was really proud of the melodies and themes he wrote and wanted to get maximum mileage out of each.
Which Bruckner cycle to listen to next... Barenboim/Chicago, which recently got reissued? Skrowaczewski/Saarbucken? Blomstedt/Gewandhaus? or should I try one of the few I haven't yet explored, which are bound to be kinda meh, like Inbal's or Gergiev's or Paavo Jarvi's?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Irszgd5OuA&list=OLAK5uy_lZ0nst7in4bfQpMBZRg3ZRDXMf9CwpCsA&index=28I could always revisit the Tintner one too. Hmm, I might do that.
Still haven't found an "ideal" Bruckner 9. Bruckner already wrote it to sound slow but then conductors takt it slowly on top of it.
>>131367024*blocks your path*https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKAwVogzlZs&list=OLAK5uy_k9AJtqzPwuzeHC0CtRanVWWinF-A-rDv8&index=1
>>131367024https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd2Owx8brFE&list=OLAK5uy_mlgBiVTvgqWgbYgnqMgcYou9Q8d5XPzgk&index=1
>tfw there's ten different pieces I want to listen to at the same moment and I'm pulled in every directionthere's too much good music!
Gustav Mahler's death was a coverup and he's still alive in Argentina chilling with Hitler. Thus Mahler 9 is emotionally dishonest and 8 mogs.
>>131367241>Thus Mahler 9 is emotionally dishonest and 8 mogs.????This is a non sequitur.
>>131367939>Boo-hoo I'm gonna die, let the music fade away just like my life>*ditches his whore wife to live on the beach with his bro Adolf*Emotionally dishonest8 > 9
>>131367981I wouldn't expect anything more from a moron.
