mono your low end editionprevious>>131410003
we're starting fresh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g762REJWcg
i like groove agent a lot and considered buying the full version. cubase comes with the stripped SE version which is still very nice to use, but i wouldn't mind extra kits and the potential for swapping out different drum parts
i need a partner to make bass music(i think i will try trancy stuff again now for at least another 18 hours)
https://septabee.nekoweb.org/
>>131445280>literally thousands of the same Jimi Hendrix joke over and overholy fucking boomer humor
>>131445508Can I be one of your concubines?
https://vocaroo.com/1bFN4YJ9skAIfirst new music in over a year, been hacking at this all week. just the beginning section for now, mix is kind of a mess
>>131445617tried this and it was like being one of the synthesizer gnomes who lives inside your synth and manually operates it for you
What the FUCK is Roland doing?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbXu9EpUCjE*checks calendar* Yeah, it not April 1st. What in the fuck...
>>131445169using text ai means I'm pragmatic and get something done. It's a form of artistic limitation. It's an act of DIY. you on the other hand will not make it, racist poster
>>131446512>I'm pragmatic and get something donecurious how you have nothing to show for it>inb4 non sequitur strawman for 200 more repliesah shoot, you got me
There are no serious attempts posted here. I wouldn't risk getting my ideas stolen.
is the latest pro q any better than the original? am i missing out
>>131446590you're not pragmatic so I doubt you accomplished anything
>>131446595lol, if somebody here steals my ideas not only are they allowing me to influence them but then they go on themselves to spread those ideas to even more people. Like berry seeds shat out of a greedy bird. Fine by me really it would almost be an honor.
>>131446654the original... third version?it's obviously better and adds some convenience, but it's nothing that is going to make or break you.
>>131446730well i was reading specifically about zero latency vs natural phase, which my version doesnt have
>>131446508Not single example of a melody sounded inspiring in any way whatsoever, they were all terrible. I would happily punch the type of person that would willingly buy this. Even if they end up kicking the shit out of me afterwards, I would at least like to get that one punch.
Pirated the fabfilter pluginsNow, with fabfilter pro-Q, fame and success will come...
we are 4chan. we dont pirate. enjoy your vsts just make sure the creators get their cut.
>>131446824150 bongbucks for an EQ is not something I want to support.
>>131445169didn't quite check what's up with audacity 4, is it a whole daw now or just better editing or what the hell...
>>131446785The 3 series isn't available for piracy so you're about 10 years behind
>>13144701813 year old me wouldve been so stoked
>>131446746Are you talking about linear eq?
https://vocaroo.com/164OGSUk4sb7have made another dubtechno run, maybe next time a bit more volume on the synths less on the noise and bass
what integrated/luf do you guys aim for when mastering? i try to aim for -10/11 but i’ve seen everything from -14 to -3https://vocaroo.com/15nuVWxoqyvhdon’t know what genre it fits in but i like it so far
>>131447980>don’t know what genre it fitsElectronica/downtempo/nu jazz/trip hop. I heard shit like this in the bar of a fancy hotel in London. Pretty much all they played. I find it jarring the way the resonating notes on the glock-sounding tune cut out suddenly - is it a sample?
>>131448026many different samples, might trim the intro and add some subtle reverb to it to smooth it out
Go on, tell me I'm shit. Make me cum.https://vocaroo.com/191knPTX1VQk>>131447980Love it, sort of. I'd minimalize the kick, just make it less individual hits but not in volume. Remove the drilly hihats as well and you have a decent neo-noir trip hop kinda thing that doesn't even sound like a faggot made it
>>131447980I like between -10 and -8. Im usually making shoegaze/post rock with a lot of drone elements. If i turn down the kick and snare i can push it harder but i prefer a punchy kit for the transients
>>131448084Can't say whether you are or not, but that track sure is shit.
>>131447479nah, pro q (from version 2 if I remember) has a "natural phase" mode that mostly avoids cramping near nyquist whereas the regular "zero latency" mode doesn't. They're both not FIR filters like the linear phase mode.
The tune I made made me cry. It's so gentle and nice. Feels like I am really there.
>>131447980I hate saying this, but it depends. A hip hop song will quickly drive the integrated LUFS value up if it has heavily compressed, long 808s because that will just naturally push the RMS level. If you're arbitrarily going to master a folk song to the same LUFS level that's expected from a trap song that has 808s that never stop sustaining, then good luck lol.
>>131448929well of course it depends, that’s why i said “aim for” like >>131448096 said, he makes a specific genre which he knows how hard he can push it, and that would apply to like neurobass or bog-standard trap slop
>>131450557would not apply*
>>131447980>>131450557… is this him?
Retard writes for four strings, some parts so far. Maybe should have thought of a melody first https://voca.ro/13viyVif8O9F
>>131450557Alright, to be fair I hate vaugeposting with answers like "just use le ears xd" too, but to answer your question, I never go louder than ~10, maybe -9.5.
>>131447980-14 usually, i do mostly rock and blues and it works fine for that
>>131447980>>131448096>>131452487>>131452820Why are you all such pussies?Do you not know how to mix louder? Lmao
I think this just might be my magnum opushttps://vocaroo.com/1a5AC8vaedrM
>>131453065there's nothing masculine about permanent hearing damage and crushed dynamics
>>131453065theres no need. i have drums, bass, and maybe three guitars at most. two rhythm so its not unbalanced left and right and a lead. i dont do insane quad tracking or for vocals, i don't even like doing doubles or chorus effects. just a main vocal and some light bg vocals. if youtube (where i upload primarily) is gonna bring it to roughly there theres no reason to crush my peaks or dynamics
What do you guys produce/compose for?
>>131453477>”t- toxic masculinity b-b- baka!!!”>>131453533So you have all that room and just don’t control your transients because you’re lazy while calling it “dynamic” basically.
>>131453638love of the game $$$
>>131453638I wanna make it (with the help of AI)
>>131453638The same things I live for...nothing, really
>>131453638ive been making music since i was a teen and it's always been my main hobby ever since.
>>131453764 you're one peculiar buck
>>131453890don't respond
>>131453904don't tell me what to do faggot
>>131453904you got a little fight in you thats good, i like that. we'll see how long that lasts
this is what my eq looks like on my guitar bus (three tracks with hard LCR panning), within a dreampop project. the highs can be hella piercing so i need to reduce it quite a lot. probably just the cab set up. im using "only shallow" as a reference. cant quite tell whats going on with kevin and bilinda's guitars in that song, they sound extremely scooped and airy
>>131453925ok
>>131453933thanks
>>131453826>(with the help of AI)fucking BASED
>>131453638Not for money, at least In terms of production, I just enjoy it for the process itself, particularly in a band context. Setting up our drums and mics for recording can be a little tedious but other than that it's a fun process for me, tracking in the room together (the drums at least) and then doing the multi tracking and mixing afterwards, layering it all together is pretty satisfying. Doesn't have the same professional sheen than if we recorded at a proper studio but it's a good learning experience anyway, and likely cheaper in the long run, having the gear on hand. I think the more DIY aspect seems to be a thing in the scene here atmComposition-wise, I haven't had a huge amount of fulfillment from writing stuff lately like I used to. I think it's just been a pressure thing trying to write for a potential album for our band, and I just feel a bit boxed in and burnt out, having to juggle multiple roles at once (writing, recording, mixing etc) I made some shitposty Scooter-inspired track a little while back, far outside my wheelhouse but it was refreshing to make, just for the novelty. I should probably start making stuff on the side again, for my own enjoyment. It'll probably help the other material anyway since I'll be in a better headspace for it and it won't just feel like work all the time
>>131447018It's a visual refresh with a few qol adds and a few features you weren't using lost.
WHY AM I THE ONLY ONE POPPINGN MY FUCKING PUSSY RIGHT NOW WTFhttps://vocaroo.com/12TPpJ5CjraYuse hardware
>>131454765turn it down fuckhead
>>131454778turn down for hwat
anons are jealous that they can’t easily turn their mixes up with superior hardware. they haven’t done the bare minimum research to know the advantage and cope saying they prefer “dynamic” mixes despite virtually all pop hits and main stream music saying that normies prefer the loud mix,
>>131454795xdddddddddddd
>he thinks loud mix = less dynamicskek
>>131454861>the thinks a range of quiet to loud in the mix = dynamicslmao
in order to stay on topic i think i we should all take a vote at the beginning of every thread for what we’re going to argue about.from now on nominations for the topic will be taken from posts after 300 and posted in a poll in the next thread.the vote will be tallied after the first 20 posts are made in that thread, and then we can proceed as normal.i’m not going to do it but one of you losers who like to participate in the aforementioned arguments can.
do I need a track with a falling rain sample looping in the background?
>>131455885that’s not the type of 2012 production that’s popular right now so no
songwriting vs producingi feel i can come up with ideasbut they're not polished and they just missing thtfinal touch to become somethinghttps://voca.ro/165QeK0AGLfV
>>131456221>https://voca.ro/165QeK0AGLfVfirst thought? whatever vibe you liked about the intro guitar riff is instantly gone once the other instruments come in and follow the bass pulse. worth considering what your aim is.i suppose thats somewhere between writing and producing
>>131453925why does your guitar get the whole spectrum?
>>131456528because it's fully acoustic
Quick coldwave on the analogue synthhttps://voca.ro/1h0ypR7naDKf
You'll want about 25db of gain reduction just to get that really nice spanky snare going. Listen to those snare wires go!
>>131457451i unironically do more than that, just not all at once. so do the people who make your silly little splice samples.sounddesignlets and ITB kiddies will never inderget it
Cereal compression really crunches the waveforms
>>131457610>"Inderget" is likely a spelling mistake for the traditional Indian and Punjabi name Inderjit or Inderjeet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l01AMCBG0Wk
>>131457622i started typing understand and then switched to get. i just think only slightly faster than i type as i hear the words so sometimes they jumble like that.i also don’t spell check or caps whatever because i am in charge of what i say, not my iphone. and i hold myself to a higher standard (only when texting people i know, obviously i don’t read back anything i type to anonymous people on a cartoon forum because it doesn’t matter).
do i buy melodyne
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>>131453065they are followers not listeners. they've been told to try and get it at x and so do so instead of seeing what they can do. they're trying to stay in the lines because that always gets success.
I think I got the beat down broshttps://voca.ro/12VQAZTKigCgOriginal piece:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujsh5HjMvPcYou catch anything off?
>>131446512https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcBOS6LCrYEthese guys sound almost like nirvana and already have 4.3M views while you will keep shilling AI psychosis pipe dreams without actually getting great results
>>131458581that you made the original but worse?
>>131457650Are u dumb? Don't buy anything. Torrent like a sane person.
clip your snares by 30dB you fucking pussies
>>131458581you are completely missing key components, like the delayed snare and some of your notes are wrong. listen harder and try again.
im gonna be honest i dont know what im doing when I'm mixing and none of you do either
>>131458750you are cooked
>>131445169I did take very basic music lessons, and learnt like notes and shit in school but never really pursued it further. How much does music theory and notes shit actually matter?I also don't have one of those MIDI controller keyboard, can I still make music without those?
>>131462098the knowledge may inspire you to create music certain way but you can totally just figure out stuff on your own and make music anywaymost daws got virtual midi keyboards so theres no need for actual midi controller keyboard to play something
>>131462098>it doesn't>no
>>131462293i meant yes you can without hardware fuck
>>131462275>>131462293>>131462293Got it. Thanks frens.
>>131460513>use the worst headphones/monitoring environment possible>high pass EVERYTHING by default>always compress and use way too much of it>always eq but only boost and especially the treble >make limiters do way too much gain reductionI am THE mixing engineer
https://vocaroo.com/1mpp8uVhOn5cI made a bass house remix of elestic by joey purp, does it hit? I still have a 2nd half to finish yet
high passing as default in cringe but an area where I almost always use it is in a compressor's sidechain. shit's magical if you want big bass without causing the compressor to pump.
>>131446247I would love to make something with your vocals edm-wise (like dnb or house). They remind me of alt-j in the best way possible. My only qualm with your song is that its too short :) sonically its fun and kept me guessing on what you'd do next (like 1:03 is fantastic)>>131447909sounds like menu music for a fps game, i fuck with it. Its hypnotic. Maybe clean up the low end on the reverb with a high pass?>>131463512just go for what sounds good, LUFs is only an estimate. Also the song you posted is jazzy trip hop and its v good. Big ups.
>>131447980>>131463706>just go for what sounds good, LUFs is only an estimate. Also the song you posted is jazzy trip hop and its v good. Big ups.meant for a different anon, oops
>>131462098>would learn word help grug write better?>can grug use chalk on cave wall to write or should grug use pencil
howi couldnt even notice it in my headphones but i listened to it on my phone and it was extremely noticable
>>131456528huh?
Don't know if it was posted as a joke, but don't mono your low-end as a rule.
>>131465063but reddit and many youtubers say you should. i can find and screen cap like a million posts from professionals on gearspace showing you how wrong you are. DYOR retard
>>131465084> i can find and screen cap like a million posts from professionals on gearspace showing you how wrong you areDo it.
If youre going to high pass the side image at something like 200Hz pls for the love of god use linear phase processing.
why are you caring about these details. you can't even write a proper song or get a proper tone. frauds
>>131465143the screencap in the OP is 80hz
can somebody else chuzo post for mei’m in the process of writing another pop hit and yall are really getting in the way
Do any of you have any interest in making music for games? That's my main focus as a composer but I don't know if this is the right place.
>>131465202that’s unironically even stupider
>>131465213no but i semi regularly plagiarize classic stuff like zelda and silent hill.i hear aggy daggy is all crabs
>>131465213DEUH DUD Y YUH DEUIHD E DYEH DEUH DEUH YEH GAMES???? DEUHE YUEHDF UHE VEBBEDOEO GAMEMIE??? AME EAIN TEI IRHGT PLWACEE?? DIS D A WITE SUB WEDDIT??
>>131465228Oh cool, I've recently making Deltarune-inspired stuff specifically because I have a lot of those soundfonts. Here, what do you think? Honestly I think I suck at mixing https://voca.ro/1hv0HB6R69z9
I've heard that you run into certain technical limitations if you push LUFS above -8. is this true or bullshit?
>>131465217why
>>131465274explain for what purpose you need the sharp 96db bump right there as opposed to a gradual curve higher up and shallower, or why you wouldn’t just narrow the whole signal in the op or why it needed to be mono in the first place.there’s a whole checklist to run through before doing something like this based on context after determining why you even would. this type of cut just reeks of not knowing what you’re doing
>>131465350ok thanks for the explanation
>>131465350why would you bump anything by 96db wtf that's so much
>>131465668i use that steep a slope in the high end sometimes when i want to precisely cut off a specific fizz or ring while maintaining everything just below that cutoff.watching people do it in the low end where it’s going to cause a bump for no reason and then having the gall to not add makeup (which you would do IF there was a problem in the first place) triggers the fuck out of me every time.it’s the only bait i will always fall for
>>131465270At that point you're going to be adding lots of audible distortion mainly from limiting and or clipping.
distortion is badlimiting is bad compression? believe it or not: BAD
>>131465892Could we also call eq bad because its technically a form of distortion?
>>131465892uhhh no????
>>131465945Its a form of delay
THE WIND THE BIRD THE LOVE THE AIRTHE BREEZE THE DEW THE SPRING IN ME
>>131466126Which is "technically" distortion. Im just being a pedantic fag here tho.
>>131465945no. eq is bad because of phase shift.>>131466206fag
>>131466206No, delay will cause phase shifts which will produce resonant spikes/ringing, leading to distortion.
>>131458860It's an exercise, not meant to beat the original, just break it down in instruments and reproduce it.The original is sick>>131459867Which notes did I get wrong?I agree the delayed snare is still subpar.
I have yet to find a compression plugin I really love. But I love Pro Q and I like Pro L well enough.
>>131467503pro-l clicks once you learn what your go-tos are for the basics, when see what extremely high gain actually works in a mix, and when you finally know how to use it and compare it to comparable results from other limiters and clippers/satuation combos.for me it's obviously the 1176 la2a combo, but it's often overkill.ITB i like supercharger for *some* character compression *sometimes.* basic duty i just stick to ableton glue. pro-c 2 for my sound design gigs solely because it's faster, but truth be told i've never run a test where i wasn't eventually able to get the exact same snap from the stock ableton compressor- but like i said, it's faster and that time counts for something.i think ignoring all (most) plugin slop or situations where you *need* a certain hardware sound, compressors are more a personal thing than other types of processing- if you have the ears to know what sound you're going for it's more a matter of what gets you there with the least work.doesn't make any sense to me but like half of the boomers i've been in a session with are still using Waves R-Comp all over the place and they get the job done with it.
>>131461720you are brown
>>131463706> Maybe clean up the low end on the reverb with a high pass?I noticed the low end is way too much in general when i heard it on different headphones. I need to remember to be more careful with the ones im using cause it sounded balanced there
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFvD8Tzdzokbrowns mogged by whites and blacks
>>131465264>https://voca.ro/1hv0HB6R69z9Yeah, you definitely need to work on balancing the volume on these parts better, it's a bit clusterfucky. That said, I think there's more of a problem with the composition. The bass is way too busy and I feel like there's a few chords that don't work with the lead in various parts (not the 'this adds some nice spice' kind, but the 'this sounds wrong and shit' kind). It feels like each element is too separate an idea from each other and it fucks with the rhythm/flow of it all - nothing is complimentary or supporting, it's just all there trying to compete at once and it sounds messy. There some nice ideas in there, though, like the bends/slides on the lead part.
brehs whats going on? why is my helix doing this? going into the powerpoint directly substantially reduces it but its still there. its some electrical interference. the ground button doesn't do anything
i want to make a project that combines upbeat 2010s vocaloid animation mv with ambient noise pollution while adding in some storyline about an alien girl finding a human to settle down with but I don’t know if it’s gonna be a time waster
>>131445617I subbed to their patreon, supposedly it's going to become a lot more usable over the next year or so and it's too bizarre not for me to support
>>131470646the roblox of daws
>>131470670I think it's just weapons grade autism
>>131470696the dev wrote their own version of C++ for it of course it is
>>131466348I meant that from a signal processing standpoint, any change to the waveform shape is distortion. Fuck it, nvm.
>>131445617https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW8Z98pXuSEwatching his tutorial and this is like if terry davis was a producer instead of having religious psychosis
>>131465084You sound like a type of a dude who limits his tracks to -14 LUFS because he heard spotify or some shit normalizes to that level. And >>131465063is completely correct, listen to some Death Grips tracks for example, they sometimes have subs flying all over the place.
>>131465270Not exactly, but loud masters require some skill and they start at the arrangement stage (the most important for WHOA LOUD TRACKS BRO).
>>131445617Thanks for sharing this anonI'm fucking clueless as to how to make this software actually do anything useful but it still looks really really cool
>>131470282Nothing is a waste of time when you follow your heart.God bless.
>>131471948The tutorial on his youtube channel makes it pretty comprehensible, I find it a lot more intuitive than it would seem at least. You can just search "tutorial for septabee". Development still seems relatively early since it's missing things like vst support but I could see myself using it long term if it goes in a good direction
>>131472134That’s really sweet anon! I don’t know if I can start this project alone but maybe overtime I can invite some people who knows
Does anyone know how to get the first two to sound more like the third one?https://voca.ro/1692aWYBiYn6https://voca.ro/1oc0kELVdBF3https://voca.ro/1gkjTLXzMOVeI know it has something to do with the compression and EQ but I can't figure it out. How does it sound all thick like that without becoming a total mess?
>>131473308Sounds like a phaser or sweeping band pass plus boosted hi on the percussion which clears room in mids for the guitar melody, then added a sub or did a low pass on the bass with resonance to make a pseudo-sub also taking mids out of the bass. then the whole thing is doused in reverb at least that's what I think I'm not a professional
>>131470941No it isnt, distortion is indicated by a highly compressed and clipped signal.
https://voca.ro/1iathQ1i26hYhttps://voca.ro/19V7pTRa8cBvrate my first two beats. I've been grinding almost every day for the last 3 months and this is the result.
>>131474905It's a fine start anon, yeah they sound a little beginnerish like everyone does at first. But I can tell you're experimenting with sound design melody and drum programming. So just keep goin on all those things. At this phase I would be starting lots of fresh projects instead of getting tunnel vision on one idea, because you probably don't quite know how to use the daw to sculpt your idea yet even if you hear it clearly in your head. So just continuing to experiment and doing lots of different things in the daw so you discover and learn the features. Modulation and automation are good next steps, could even trying recording some stuff irl and manipulating the samples, sample synthesis is dope. But overall just keep experimenting having fun and don't worry about how the end product sounds for a while
>>131474905bro think he terraria
>>131475058i’m not gay
>>131474083"In signal processing, distortion is the unwanted change to the original shape, waveform, timing, or frequency content of a signal as it passes through a device or channel"EQ 100% fits into the definition of distortion if I wanted to be scientific and pedantic enough. That's all I'm saying. I'm not claiming that an EQed signal (FIR or IIR) is distorted in the same way that a clipped signal is.
>>131475220great so literally everything counts as distortion if you’re a fag about it
>>131475220I stand corrected. I appreciated this dialectical discourse
>>131473308idk but I ran the first one through some effects to make it more "thick"https://vocaroo.com/18xowaEvHUNa
it’s a barberpole phaser
Off topic but this thread used to be my mainstay and I didn't see anywhere else that was particularly relevant unless the request board has a thread for music or somethingDoes anyone know what this song in the clip is off the top of their head? Super familiar but I dunno the titlehttps://youtu.be/rvs-GQsNcww?t=867Have a konata for your time
>>131471836death grips is shitpost tier
it’s not enough to chart or have a following if i don’t approve of it.you all just have shit tier taste and that’s why you’re ngmi. no amount of songwriting or coping with software emulations can cover that up.
Just bought a pair of 8 inches studio monitors and damn, the bass is sooo good, physical, earth shaking, pounding...only issue is that they are too big, a bit overkill size-wise for my room
>>131471102Based autist
>>131476325But you approve of me in particular so we are good.
How do you cope with the seemingly insurmountable task of creating something as good as your heroes?
https://vocaroo.com/1mkM6rDnsc1aokay made like 30 seconds more progress
>>131477082I just lie in bed and do nothing.
>>131477082can you point to any specific things that you're struggling with so that you can't make anything like:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcBOS6LCrYEis it that you have retarded garbage taste since you've been unimpressed with literally every example i've ever posted so you're not even trying to make anything that people would actually like to listen to? your shit is all retarded so i'm not sure how to even define what it is that you're struggling with. if you have heroes then you could maybe start with copying them or take inspiration from them as a starting point to practice with but you seem to be too retarded for that as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtKdtNlTJdclook at his forehead lmfaoanons are literal brainlets, totally fuckedmany great musicians and music producers have a large forehead
>>1314749051 out of 5 vocaroos, but keep grinding and post again in another 3 months.
>>131476405actually no, it's me they approve of. I have posted pretending to be a beginner multiple times and he is always helpful to me and likes what I do, then sometimes uses me as an example of someone who is in the know in subsequent rants against ngmi retards.
Is that Chris Lord-Alge guy a fucking huckster fraud for Waves or something? There's a video popped up of a 'mixing masterclass' with him, and he's sitting there in a studio filled with probably 100's of 1000's dollars worth of studio equipment, struggling to pretend that he just uses a bunch of the Waves plug ins to mix guitar and bass and almost nothing else (the plug-ins with his name on them, of course). He comes across like he is lying through his fucking teeth and struggling to say something that sounds pertinent without giving any actual details away, it makes him sound like a fool that doesn't fully understand what he is doing. At one point he says 'yeah, I just use this plug in on bass DI with this exact setting' and it's a preset for vocals, apparently. Not that it has to be used on vocals just because the preset says so, more so that there's a bunch of 'bass' presets that even the guy himself doesn't even bother with, so what's the point?
>>131478216https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-wch_zWrV8there's a ton of shilling in general. don't believe the hype. the real successful producers and engineers use a lot of hardware.
>>131478216what are you like 15 and just discovered how ads and sponsorships work?no shit he’s lying for money
>>131478317>>131478382That's not really what my issue is. It's that this guy is apparently revered as some god-like mixer, but he comes across as a complete buffoon that talks in abstractions to hide the fact that they don't know anything substantial or technical. He isn't prepared for the questions and is visibly flustered by some of them because he's clearly terrible at improvising and knows it. I understand he's being paid for his time to shill shit, but at least make the bare minimum effort to make yourself look good in the process. It's just frustrating that companies have so little respect for their audiences/customers that they are willing to put out shit that actively makes them look bad and still get away with it.
>>131478971>It's just frustrating that companies have so little respect for their audiences/customersthe company-audience relationship is not sacred, and the fact that the plugin industry makes any attempt at all to act like they "respect" its customers sill in this day and age when we have decades of research showing that it literally doesn't matter sets a bar well above the average in every other industry.the company doesn't care about you and you're foolish to expect the facade. get over it
>>131479019I can't believe a person can be this fucking stupid, but hats off to you.
>>131445169https://voca.ro/11DLWWZ5uFWF
https://voca.ro/1fMQ2yFJap6r
>>131477763Don't talk to me verminUnbelievable
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>>131482083"but i can't recreate this specific sound it takes too much time and i don't have the">legal samples exist>since forever
>>131482180Who the fuck cares about legal? If your process is actually transformative you can sample whatever the heck you want and nobody is going to be able to discern it, besides super recognizable vocals or unaltered licks maybe
>>131482261i meant sample libraries that u hadda buy on cds back then when there was barely any internet. pirate those shit too i was never against what you can get away with. im pro piracy anti plagiarism.
>>131482307>pro piracy anti plagiarismAgree but I think a lot of people get hyper focused on the need for a sample library the same way they get focused on hardware. What I'm trying to say is samples are really easy to make either from field recording or chopping existing audio. And by chopping I'm talking about say taking a handful of individual notes from a violin concerto and using those to voice a midi instrument, not as much in the hip-hop sense where they are taking swathes of another song wholesale.
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>>131482501dude i watch otomads all day
>>131482843Nice am I supposed to do something with this information
why is it so easy for whores that look like this to make edm
>>131453477>>131453764music with a good production is something you can play infinitely loud and still not hurt your ears.an example would be NIN's the fragile (wether you like it or not is irrelevant)
>>131483496no that’s just a mix with less high end, which doesn’t mean anything by itself.the fragile is mixed very well though, obviously.isn’t that album actually really quiet?
i am 5/4https://voca.ro/12fPm1i7E5tI
Can I use the same chord progression for all my tracks?
>>131484097>asked the billionaire producer rehashing C G F to the next Taylor Swift's tune
unfortunately this will not make it in to (current WIP)https://vocaroo.com/1oyB9cNpgb8Ethe endless process of writing and weeding out a million parts sad sad sadWITERALLY just this one section i'm stuck on ughblog
How do I add ''air'' to my tracks? I want to create a layer of ''air'' (high end information)
>>131485714<3
>>131485005What about D D C A#?
>>131485809copy the midi of something you want to air-ify and just play white noise with it. highpass it. compress them together preferably. or erosion if you’re on ableton, very subtly.make a high end pad, preferably a cluster chord or closed voicing etc. very low volume just enough that you can feel when it’s gone.smash something like your drums and print it with 100% reverb and ott it (preferably just the high band). down low, again. maybe gate it or again, compress with the dry signal.like a million ways to do it.>>131485823what are you playing 80s hardcore? go learn theory nerd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hzw6_uL7Hc
>NOOOO the people will magically sense and notice that gemini told you to increase the low mid gain!! you can't be making real music if AI gives you technical advice
AI hasn't spit anything out that's usable for the intro yet.https://vocaroo.com/1bmXoCAla2gJ
>>131486657you're not even talking about some 4d chess AI mastering where it figures out dozens of dynamic EQ points. just the most basic EQ that any competent human should be able to decide for themselves. this is some baby ass wiping tier handholding that guarantees that you're a brainlet and your music will suck, no one worth their salt will willingly work with you.
>>131486682nope, rock artists tend to be pragmatic. we're not engineers, after all. AI guidance will be the default.
>>131486682do u recommend i read reaper's manual
Do you guys double vocals? Specifically the main or during chorus? I notice this in pop music but I always thought it sounded a little weird so I just do one vocal and maybe some harmony falsetto stuff lightly in the background.
>>131486909you're not an artist. you're an insanely stupid wannabe who's falling for AI psychosis.
>>131486992you don't know how rock music works.
>>131477807>>131477818literally look at their foreheads. trent reznor also has a good forehead, it just doesn't look gigantic when stood next to marilyn manson. anons are literally stupid brainlets with physically small brains. you're as inept and incapable as any malnourished and uneducated third worlder.
>>131487012>trent reznor also has a good foreheadagree but i’m starting to think you just like good looking men
>>131486924I would if I could sing.Glassjaw definitely does this and I think it sounds awesome.
When i'm working on a song I tend to be on headphones, then will check it through my speakers occasionally to see how it's sounding. Headphones makes it easier to catch smaller/quieter details and I find I will make compositional decisions around this, only to find that the smaller details don't actually come through on speakers that much (if at all sometimes) which throws me off and makes me wonder if I need to rebalance things. How do you guys deal with this (if at all)? Are you supposed to listen on headphones and get the same experience as you would listening on speakers or am i being dumb? I think I'm overthinking it and it will obviously be easier to hear more details with headphones, but still wonder which is best to mix/create on.
>>131488329yeah that’s one of the main reasons common wisdom is to do most of your mixing on speakers. headphones exaggerate and it’s just easier to lose sight of the big picture.FOR ME the mix is 90+% on speakers. headphones are really just a double checking and additional small eq changes thing for me- i have headphones that i check specific things on, eg one pair i know shows distortion in the 2-4k range especially well but sucks ass for everything under 300 hz.you should shift away from caring about “small detail” to overall balance, which should make up the bulk of mixing and composition in general.
>>131445169https://github.com/sneed-and-feed/sneed-and-feed.github.io
>>131447980Usually around -5 to -3
>>131488361>you should shift away from caring about “small detail” to overall balance, which should make up the bulk of mixing and composition in general.yeah, you're right - thanks
>>131488329I cut the song then play it in my carIf it sounds good it will sound good everywhere.
I stopped working on this for like a month or two and came back to it recently, been changing a few things and trying to get a proper sounding mix. My main goal is getting a lo fi house vibe going but my previous mixes were sounding too muffled or some shit according to the AI, the track also has a spoken vocal sample which I removed here so it doesn't get in the waySound design and mixing take so much fucking time, especially when you're not a pro or have shit equipment, my IEMs don't really pick up the muffledness or the too much low end, it sounds normal until I put on my other pair of shitty headphones which are very low end focused and muffledhttps://vocaroo.com/1lWt7Gg6VWiU
>>131447018Not a daw. They basically rewrote their garbage open source spaghetti code from scratch so they can actually build something decent from there once it's done.I support it.
theres no drumming general so im asking here. ive been learning drums recently and ive noticed I can maintain the pattern im playing better if im not counting along. is it a bad habit to not count along and should I work on correcting this or is it not a big deal? thanks
>>131489587It's still very muffled, like you have a LPF on the master or something.
>>131486909Lol bro rock musicians had some of the BEST engineers of all time. Rock is high high level engineering lol
>>131479585>>131479649I'm double replying but I just want to make sure you know these are mega awesome anon, thanke for share
>>131487030https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zihx7GkWxNUthey've found correlations between pedophilia and physical deformities of the face and skull, below average height, low IQ, deficiencies in white matter in the brain. goated musicians tend to look attractive, not just because they're marketable, but because it correlates with genius artistic ability.
>>131491597no it doesn't retard
>>131491621https://www.youtube.com/shorts/k0_r97xMOygcope
>>131490800>these are mega awesome anonalso>double replyingyou mean same fagging
>>131482953https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsKsyMmR0do
>>131492505yea not watching that foidslop
>>131491597Fucked that people believe this. You're 100% not conventionally attractive, schizo-chan, you're not even attractive, so you'll be culled as a pedo with all the rest by your favourite genius'. Imagine schizo-chan getting hanged by Taylor Swift cause he looks like a retarded pedo, screaming >Nooooo I'm one of youuuuuuu please just measure my foreheadand it turns out he got surgery to increase the surface area of his forehead.
>>131491597i am attractive so thanks i guess
>>131490146I think it's fine not to count -- that shit just adds too much overhead.That said, I'm decades away from when I started, and I imagine that I probably did a lot of counting in those early days to build my foundation...
>>131492327I replied with the gif then I wanted to add the additional affirming comment I'm not pretending to be two different posters samefagging I'm replying to the same post twice that's double replying don't sardonically gif me you queer
this guy >>131474905 back again with another beat. Your kind replies with the last two got me extra motivated to do better with this one. I know it's short, I'll try to make something longer varied with the next one. pls rate.https://voca.ro/13XhGTADFq9L
>>131486912I dont think this dude has any recommendations on how to learn so do whatever helps you whether that entails consulting LLMs, enrolling in a production school, watching YouTube etc etc, just never admit to him youve consulted with LLMs
>tfw no one makes this but in midi controller form Can someone at least rec me an at least 3 knob midi controller with big knobs? NOT endless encoders, NOT a square of a bunch of small knobs packed together.
>>131494360>muh KNOOOOBS
Is "It sounds like video game music" just something normies say whenever they hear a song that has no vocals
>>131495009no that’s them picking up on an extremely straight forward or excessively basic sense of composition, which is what novices default to.
>>131494321i use LLMs mainly for electronics but i don't delude myself into thinking i'm gonna start selling $10k gear like DW fearn. it's extremely basic things like which type of wires i should buy which i would be able to learn without AI, it would just take longer. the mexican anon is going full retard asking an LLM for basic broad strokes EQ moves because he doesn't have a natural feel for the music. it hasn't been proven that an LLM can carry such a useless talentless goober to have any realistic chance of success in music. even when using a specialized AI like suno, anons apparently have bad taste so they can't judge if an AI track is a hit or not so for them it would be like finding a needle in a haystock or playing the lottery trying to get a generated AI song that has a realistic chance of getting millions of streams.
>>131495071How do you define excessively basic
>>131495247uncommon Chuzo W(completely ignoring the multiple times he stanned obviously dogshit AI songs that he didn’t recognize and then immediately backpedaled on lmao)
>>131495260no jumps in intervals (e.g playing scales up and down). no discernible rhythm in the melodies. no chord inversions. default arrangement (bass, chord, melody) with zero or extremely obvious structure (abab)- stuff that can be pulled off by somebody who knows what they’re doing, but sounds like shit when an amateur tries to copy it because they don’t know what they’re hearing.stuff that normies pick up on obviously.git gud
>>131495304it was literally one time and it was the vocals ripped straight from a real song (not even a voice change), just pasted on top of a generic beat which didn't sound impressive so it didn't matter if the beat was made by a human or an AI. i was busy with something else so i barely listened to it and you were horrible pieces of shit constantly trolling and harassing me.btw you didn't catch on to this. it's AI but it still sounds much better than what anons can make.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcBOS6LCrYE
>>131495328every other person could tell within a few seconds it was so glaringly obvious. it’s been multiple times actually but you probably just didn’t catch it.glad to see you finally admit it though, you’re really maturing as an almost person.
>>131495356kill yourself, you're literally stupid and clueless, you're the one at fault because you didn't know the original song which was a top charting song, you think it's a dogshit song but it has a ton of views and the AI plagiarized version also had a decent number of views because it objectively doesn't sound as bad as you think it does
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKml80alH3Yit was literally the vocal ripped from this song with like a generic EDM style beat and sped up to match the EDM tempo with some reverb or whatever effects. not a dogshit song. anons have garbage taste, anons also tried to argue that there's no inherent quality to a hit song, it's just forced by marketing and exposure via radio play and such, and that it wouldn't be possible to know if a song is a hit without being able to see cues like the view count
>>131495382> it objectively doesn't sound as bad as you think it doesamateur ears. cope
>>131495247I never read your posts, I hope you know that
i don’t even read half the posts i respond to i just skim it for a keyword to repeat and then call them person a retard
>>131495991>>131496074i learn vast amounts and understand things with incredible depth like you can't even imagine. reading and writing helps with that while you think you're being clever by actively avoiding reading and watching videos etc and by keeping your thoughts to yourself but you're literally like fucking retards who will never make good music you just have entirely unjustified overinflated egos
>>131495866you're like a diaper shitting toddler you can't be taken seriously at all. just the top 3 results on youtuber for that song add up to over 180M views for a song that's barely over 2 years old. you think you're in a position where it's valid for you to shit on that song while larping as a music producer yourself as if you can get even a fraction of that success for yourself.
on spotify it has over 1.2 BILLION streams
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>>131496214you ARE stupid, despicable scum, you have no reason to act smug, you have nothing to say in response to posts to like >>131477667 because your brain is empty
being able to read is like one of the most basic requirements to participate in a first world civilized society as a responsible and productive adult
in school you're supposed to write essays etc because it helps you learn. you're too stupid to put your thoughts into words, you think you have genius music production secrets so that you're benefiting yourself by gatekeeping them, but you're actually not really achieving noteworthy, these imageboards are meant to allow for discussion but you're not participating in any reasonable way, you're attempting to extract knowledge from anons but you only end up with anons who are perhaps even stupider and more clueless than you are, there are no real big time professionals who hang out in these threads that you can leech off of
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>>131496222>you have no reason to act smugunlike you, the accomplished producer with zero songs made after thousands of hours grinding out shitposts KEK
>>131496280yeah just shut down and shield your ego like an autistic retard who has no argument>>131496283i literally have a genius understanding of music, everything is straightforward and i know what i need to do, what gear to acquire etc. while you're fucking pants on head retarded just "practicing" by making amateurish tracks over and over. you don't have basic music taste, you insist that songs with billions of streams sound like dogshit etc.
>”i- i’m a genius i just haven’t started yet..!!! y-y- you’re ngmi!!!”imagine
for example trevor horn had a pointy mic that spooked seal so he recorded with a u67 but the u67 may have been turned off with the pointy mic sitting next to the u67. anons have literally no clue about the sonic differences, they would think it is schizo to use the pointy mic. there are countless tiny decisions like this that affect the end result. you don't even understand the astronomical scope of how little it is that you understand about music and sound, you're like an ant, you have no way of harnessing it and become successful yourself.
https://youtu.be/otdZ0v3But8?si=npqBNaZAKWGugGly>mumble over video game song>get tons of views/listensis it that easy?
just turn the knobs until it sounds goodjust move the notes around until it feels right
just put the fries in the bag bro
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>>131496551anons have practiced for 10+ years and still get piss poor results, nothing commercially viable in a mainstream music sense that would pay better than a normalfag job without grinding random wedding gigs and such, yet they think they're the ones who should be smug while i've learned basically everything that's needed to make mainstream quality music in barely more than 2 years with the effort that i've put in spite of anons constantly antagonizing me and harassing me because they're salty losers
>>131496359it's meme status, so despite what it seems like, no, it's not, it's down to random chance whether it gets spread via tiktok by a bunch of teenagers making copy paste comments on it.
i have had this chuzo guy on the ropes for several /dmp/ albums now ever since we blocked AI generated songs, he was never the same after that Anon wrote a song about him
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Yeah thats what I thought
>yeah that's what i thought
>>131490190exactly. but I'm a guitarist and songwriter, not an engineer. so I invite AI to guide me.
this is what you deserve, you get third worlders like >>131496874 to discuss music production with. you're not contributing anything constructive in good faith so you get these turds that have nothing to contribute back to you either, there are no goated professionals who hang out in these threads so you think you're being smart by being a bloodsucking leach but you're sucking impotent brown cock.
>>131496902these things apply to you, you have severe cognitive deficiencies that you're projecting onto me because you can't think straight and you get emotionally upset about how inadequate your music production skills are and you don't know how to fix it
>>131496927you're delusional enough to think you're in the right but you're actually giving me great satisfaction by letting me know how fucking incredibly stupid and mentally ill you are like there's no doubt that i'm fucking stomping you like the genius that i am and the fucking tard that you are, you will never admit to yourself that you're a completely pathetic loser but i know it beyond any reasonable doubt
you're literally a brainlet, you physically don't have the brain to be able to learn extraordinary musical skills
>flattened effectyou don't respond normally to music, you've been unimpressed with every example i've shown>reduced speech...>lack of initiativeyou don't show curiosity about almost anything, like new plugins or the hardware that the plugins emulate, you want to use stock DAW plugins as much as possible without taking initiative to learn more about the music production world
the flattened affect is also why autistic anons believe that the boomer is the reasonable and well-behaved one and i'm the unhinged schizo, but he's clearly seething just in a kind of salty passive aggressive way if you know what i mean, and he doesn't have anything reasonable to actually say, the things that he say are often wrong and he never corrects them and he even repeats the same wrong ideas over a year later
Reminder that Kraftwerk fucking lost their two decade long shitfit over some dude who sampled their music.>“The European Court of Justice has helped to clarify the urgently needed definition of the concept of pastiche, thereby seeking to strike a balance between artistic freedom and the protection of intellectual property,” says René Houareau, Managing Director Legal & Political Affairs for Germany’s music industry association BVMI, in a statement to Variety. “This is also significant because the exception introduced in Germany in 2021 has so far been associated with considerable legal uncertainty.”>The path to the decision has been a long and complex one, with 22 years spent circumnavigating the European justice system across appeals and remandments that ping-ponged between two regional German courts, the German Federal Court of Justice, the German Federal Constitutional Court and, now, the ECJ.>The pastiche provision “does not have a catch-all nature,” the Court wrote in its decision, “but covers creations which evoke one or more existing works, while being noticeably different from them, and which use, including by means of sampling, some of those works’ characteristic elements protected by copyright, in order to engage with those works in an artistic or creative dialogue that is recognisable as such and that can take different forms, in particular the form of an overt stylistic imitation of those works, of a tribute to them or of humorous or critical engagement with them.”https://variety.com/2026/music/news/kraftwerk-loses-two-decade-copyright-dispute-1236728133/Sample to your heart's content, lads.
>>131494360There are various websites that have cropped up in the last ten years that allow you to sketch out a device (according to their parameters) and they'll build it for you. Google em.
for example
hey Ψarpers stop violating the goldwater rule, ok? that would be great.
>>131497237https://factory.yaeltex.com/factory/indexOnly one you'll ever need.
>>131488665Does it work in iPad? Doesn't work in mine
ALRIGHT BROSnext thread: what are we arguing about?respond with a topic as your submission.
>>131496916you still don't understand rock music.
>>131497363AI in composition
>>131497363using AI to dial in my bus compressor
>>131497366you're still brown
>>131489587usually I use a Pultec VST and boost at the 12khz or even 16khz on the master track, but keep the bandwidth setting at 10 for the broadest boost (no real issue with phase shifting unless you overdo it)It just does something right to the high end, and its really easy to use. RareSE is a good free one.
What an awful thread. Good work everyone
