post your hot takes you pussythe more controversial the betterdiscuss and insult each other>/mu/core is good (with the exception of gy!be)>singing is the best musical instrument>female vocals > male vocals>there is no such thing as good chinese music>madonna should be regarded as the greatest pop music artist ever>the beach boys are very underrated actually every normie should know them more than the beatles>george > lennon > paul > ringo>west african & caribbean music is very underrated, seriously>unwound is lame and boring>same thing with post-rock and drone>metal music fucking suuuuuucks>rap IS music !!!>current popular music fucking sucks compared from a decade ago i swear it is real its not just me getting old i sweeaar
Rolling Stones peaked in the 60s and their 70s output wasnt that great
>>131461219hmmm not much of a hot take honestly
>"Industry plant" is a meaningless accusation — As long as a musician is signed with a label they're in service of the industry >Rock wasn't killed by the music industry — It died because of real estate graft >Recession Pop was one of the best eras of radio music >Breakcore might be overrun with weirdos but it's genuinely fun
>>131461277They had tons of hit songs in the 70s. Id say most people think of their 70s songs first before their 60s stuff
Electronic music has almost no merit by default
>>131461633That's the standard /mu/ take.
>>131461325>Rock wasn't killed by the music industry — It died because of real estate graft>Recession Pop was one of the best eras of radio musiccare to elaborate more on these??
>>131461708what even is recession pop? there have been many economic recessions.
>>131461842i dont know what that is either thats why i asked lel
>>131461195>>metal music fucking suuuuuucksThis is the coldest ass take, you fucking moron.
>>131462121you got upset by this and responded back to methat means it is hot ʕ·ᴥ·ʔ
They should make another "We are the world" instead of bombarding me with those bitchass UNICEF ads on YouTube..
>>131462010>>131461842>>131461708recession pop was a name created recently for late 2000s early 2010s pop slut music, like lady gaga, kesha, katy perry, rhianna, etc
Metal is actually good and extreme metal would be the only genre that can save pop music from its doldrums because extreme metal is the only form of music that has never been mainstreamed. Mixing black metal, and death metal and the like with pop music would be a breath of fresh air and lead to strange new genres Emo is an underutilized fusion genre, emo funk, emo jazz, electronic emo music, psychedelic emo,........dare i even try it, emo goth?
>>131462302>electronic emo musicbrokencyde
>>131462302>mixing genres with high amounts of antisemitic bands with semitic music would be a breath of fresh airnah no lmao nein ne. gojira is like pop death metal, it's utter trash
>>131461195You're right with all those though, I agree wholeheartedly
>>131462340>caring about antisemitismyour nose is showing moshe
>>131462302I'm here for emo jazz
>>131462365god fuck read the context of the post im clearly antisemitic and think pop music is a plight on humanity.
>>131461708Rock is dependent on people having money for instruments and space to perform. With extortionate real estate pricing most money goes to rent, there's nowhere to practice and no way to build a local scene to serve as a springboard for wider success.
>>131462243never heard of this term beforethanks for informinh us anonanyways you're wrong dumb and gay there is no way that was some of the best eras for radio music
>>131462302>extreme metal would be the only genre that can save pop music from its doldrumsthis is not a hot take, this is straight up wrong and stupid
>>131462999i dont think this is the only reason why rock is dead in the mainstreamthere is far more things than just this, this is just one small thing from many
>>131461325industry plant became a frequently used smear because the industry stopped pretending to try and started astroturfing complete dogshit in a really obvious and antagonistic way through their digital marketing. just pointless sneering hostility toward the audience instead of trying to actually do their job, like every other arm of the entertainment industry. i don't understand what their fucking problem is.
>>131463851hip hop needs a hard core section. where the music is human made at the very least. where authenticity in its creation is a precedent. id like it to be like hard core in the sense that its a subgenre or subculture with its own rules customs and standards that exists outside of the mainstream. like how theres different forms of rock and roll. where you can't use ai. the beats and rhymes/lyrics gotta come from you. or whoever the artist is. if youre a rapper you don't have to make the beat and if you're a producer you don't have to rap sing or do the lyrics. but its gotta come from real people. I'm trying to think about people being themselves before they felt the need to get high or do drugs to enjoy themselves more. where beefs are settled with boxing gloves. and men and women remember how to be good to each other. because its no secret that people are clearly being influenced by the music and cell phones/social media have destroyed relationships. where the actual art and music is the emphasis and fundamental to the actual culture. with actual rules and a code and everything. its strange to think most people would think its weird to be around each other not high and with people playing music they actually made and even enjoying it. but thats what hardcore literally is.
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>>131461195>george > lennon > paul > ringoliam > niall > zayn > harry > louis
>Geese is the best rock band from the past 10 years >Pop music has not been good in the 21st century. There has not been a single decent pop single in 26 years, no exceptions>9/11 era Nashville country is actually good
>>131467744>There has not been a single decent pop single in 26 years, no exceptionsok now this has to be an exaggeration
>>131461195ai music is good
>>131461195>/mu/core is good (with the exception of gy!be)>same thing with post-rock and dronebased, the others I'm not so sure on, also listen to Zhou Xunhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shzbv58zJjo
>>131461195In 10-15 years EDM will take over all music and all other music will become obsolete.
>>131467744I think mainstream pop is just inevitably going to be a too many cooks situation that results in something underwhelming at best due to the desperation to appease to a broad base of listeners and lack of unified vision. There's plenty of good stuff with modern pop sensibilities it just has an actual creative leading it (ex: yaeji - with a hammer, anything by underscores, anything by clarence clarity)
>>131470924dudethis opinion would have been valid in 2013 not now lol
>EDM has been getting worse since the 90s
There's nothing wrong with being a nepobaby
>>131470970You'll see faggot. When it comes, don't come crying to me
>>131470982the only person who would think this is either a nepobaby or a cocksucker for the elitist hierarchical system within the big corposboth options are scum
>>131471006it won't come dudealso why would i come crying to you even if it somehow happened
while rap is a good genre the more mainstream end of it has become extremely bland and passe rather than evolving since it's settled far too much on keeping a constant, repetitive delivery rather than finding more interesting approaches to rhythm and delivery. This will eventually lead to a situation like the fixation on the traditions of 'classic' rock killing it in the mainstream despite the genre thriving just outside of it; which I'm looking forward to since actually innovative rap is awesomehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDhiOCBedCY
>>131470982I don't think it should count as a demerit at least, using your circumstances to make something interesting like geese or gupi is a good thing imo
>>131470982this. the people seething about nepobabies, most of their favorite artists from the 60s/70s/80s/90s were just that without realizing
>>131471032true but this is not a hot opinion reallythis happens with everything popularrap is still a thing within the more rebellious youth within the mainstream
>>131471019the music industry can never and will never be a pure meritocracy. There's too much talent and too little opportunity.
>>131471027All music with lyrics will become too controversial thus leading to music with only sound. Basically Fahrenheit 451 but with music.
>>131471083stupid ass opinion
>>131461195That original Pink Floyd IS Pink Floyd. The atmosphere, the dissonance, the Englishness - it’s all there. Barrett set the blueprints. But people have intellectual pretensions so they’d rather listen to Waters seethe than hear chirpy songs about gnomes and bikes. Gilmours guitar was nice though, to be fair.
Orchid is overrated and their lyrics are liked by people who think they're smarter than they are
>>131461195None of these are hot takesCute drawing though I like it.
>>1314611951. If you're a man who prefers female vocalists to male vocalists, you're a fag. >u-u gay bro? Dumbass argument, do yourself a favor and listen to one your little dream pop ditties in front of your girl and watch how fast her pussy dries up. 2. The music you listen too is directly correlated with your intelligence, dumb people will listen to dumb people music, smart people listen to music music that stimulates your brain. Simple.
>>131471548So you prefer having male voices penetrate your ears?
prince > MJ (mj still the goat tho)george > john > paul > ringogeorge michael >>> elton johnanal cunt > napalm deathbeatles >>>>> beach boysstone roses > blur >>> oasissundays >> smiths >> the curedavid lee roth >>>>>>> sammy hagarautechre >> boards of canada >> aphex twin
>>131471548kek look at this fragile incel that's also a relationship expert
>>131471717Who?
>>131471717>george was the best beatleWhat, the white jeet who wasn’t even that good a guitarist?
>>131471425uhh yea thry are
>>131461195Japan and the UK are the only reason rock music is still relevant and not enough people have respect for their undying loyalty to the genre.
>>131471771>>131471577These posts are giving major "I use female characters in video games because I want to see some tiddies bro, you gay or something?" energy
>>131475516guys that only use girl characters in video games (outside of optimized strategy/purely aesthetically) are sinister and they are usually hiding something they did or about themselves
>>131461195The /mu/tards here who are into electro shit like ninajirachi and underscores haven't been raped enough.I also hope AI leaves every single EDM "vocalist" unemployed.
>>131470982I agree and Florence Welch is proof of this
>>131467724lol
>>131474572this is factually incorrectrock is not really "relevant" in both of these countries eitherthe genre of rock itself is not dead, simply out of touch
>>131461195>>rap IS music !!!Not Music
>>131461195The Pet Shop Boys are the greatest pop songsmiths of the last 100 years
>>131478302the Grateful Dead were never good
>>131478302if you take seriously whatever this old man said you're an unserious retard>>131478405only a british twink gay man would have this opinionyour opinion is of lesser value simply for who you are, sorry but it's true
>>131478405>look inside>tacky disco song in C-major>look somewhere else>another tacky disco song in C-major>go to the bahamas and back>all tacky disco songs in C-majorProbably won't look harder than that; Neil Tennant's lisp is giving me a headache.
>>131475516uh ohincel melty
>>131461195The critics were right about nu-metal.Nothing "bro-y" about it. It's music for babies.
>>131461195>>metal music fucking suuuuuucks>>rap IS music !!!non-white detected>>131478302jerry knew it
>>131475516the way you pathologize everything related to gender is really normal and isn't characteristic of you being gay
>>131480755i am quite white actually
>>131462169I'm not upset, so your response is misguided.
>>131461195God I miss smILING fRONDS SO MUCH...
>>131480779>>131480387Future trannys right here, if not already fully transitioned.
a band doesn't need to constantly innovate. if they can keep churning out similar sounding good music, that's perfectly fine.
there's no such thing as good or bad music, not in any absolute sense. people cling to such ideas in part because that's what those before them and those around them believe, but also because of a certain conceit: it feels good to like the "right" kind of music. but these criteria are arbitrary. there are a few who affirm such categories, and say their taste in fact doesn't fit the bill. these people are of a more humble sort, but still misguided.
>>131483500uh ohincel melty
The usebase of this site is completely full of shit.Two of my favorite bands, Lush and M83, have ZERO bolded albums. Not one!I'm lucky I found Lush through /mu/ and M83 from the radio (and then their deep cuts from /mu/)RYM should not be anyone's only place to get music recs, they are pretentious but also entry level posers at the same time, with the top 100 being dominated by rap and Radiohead.
>>131484079I've said this before but seeing the likes of Laibach and Swans get put down for 'sounding fascist' or something like that makes it impossible to take RYM ratings seriously.
>>131484079>>131484438Correct. RYM is fine as a catalog site, and I like predicting what they'll give for a collective rating (95% of the time I'll get within .2 rating of anything that's not obscure), but they are majorly biased like any other societal group with inherent dispositions.My hot take is rock music is in pretty good shape in 2026. Yes the innovation is not there but performance and musicianship combines to make the live experience still worth it.
>>131480605I always thought most nu-metal sounded childish compared to early-mid 90s groove/alt metal. Were the 16 year olds of 2000 were more childish than the 16 year olds of 1995?1995: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4uI8jNY_hU2000: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2R6uT7uLFg
>People who strongly dislike electronic music (not the calvin harris type, more the Jeff Mills type) do so because of lack of imagination and creativity>The Pop industry nowadays is carried on the shoulders of gooners (male homos included here) and brainless stans. Anyone really interested in music and not the personalities is exploring other genres>The most innovative music, especially electronic, is coming from LATAM and Africa>Being mentally ill gives you an upper hand in arts, thats why many trannies are great musicians>>131462302I cant even begin to imagine how any extreme metal genre can be mixed with any pop of any era. Plus, as an extreme metal fan, do you really wanna see your spaces get infested with normies whose most "extreme artist" was XXXTentacion or Ghostemane?
>>131488612>People who strongly dislike electronic music (not the calvin harris type, more the Jeff Mills type) do so because of lack of imagination and creativitywhat makes you think so? why do you think creativity facilitates emotional resonance? to qualify, if you were to have mentioned rock or hip-hop, say, as opposed to electronic, I would still have the same questions; I'm interested in the general underlying philosophy. and I ask because I think there is *something* to the idea that more creative types are more inclined to certain types of music - and music in general - but that can only get you so far. extremely creative people can love music but like very different kinds of music. and sure, there are tendencies in terms of broader personality features, one's childhood and adolescence, etc., but I don't think any of that necessitates liking this or that genre. and you can even have two people who are very much into electronic, say, and have the same favorite artist, but there still be some degree of difference in the particular songs and works of theirs they like. so I think creativity certainly aids in one enjoying the contemplation of ideas, but I don't think that's the same thing as having an immediate positive emotional response prior to contemplating the rhythm, chord changes, etc.
>>131488612Calvin Harris is shit, but Jeff Mills' only good song is The Bells; I think he excels better at DJing than beatmaking.
>>131487497Early 90s metal like you posted was just made and the market for it happened to be 16 year olds.Nu-metal was manufactured by marketingfags to appeal to 12 year olds.
reading these opinions solidify the fact that music fans are idiots that repeat opinions that they think they came up with
>>131461195Early King Crimson was the best period. Lizard is the greatest prog record ever. Red and Larks are overrated.Early Floyd was the best period. Ummagumma and Atom Heart Mother are their peak.RHCP is a good band.Blondie is fucking terrible.
The 90s had a lot of noticeable music and cultural rot setting in.
Parallel Lines [Chrysalis, 1978]As unlikely as it seemed three years ago, they've actually achieved their synthesis of the Dixie Cups and the Electric Prunes--their third is as close to God as pop-rock albums ever get, or got. Closer, actually--even on side two every song generates its own unique, scintillating glitz. What seems at first like a big bright box of hard candy turns out to have guts, feeling, a chewy center, and Deborah Harry's vocal gloss reveals nooks of compassion and sheer physical give that makes the protagonists of these too-too modern fragments seem as tragic (or untragic) as those of any other epoch. Plus the band really New Yawks it up--try the chorus of "Just Go Away." A
>>131488673I think creativity is linked to open mindness and I guess I wanted to refer to "emotional resonance" as you put it. I believe electronic music is mostly about the ambiance and how it makes you feel. And putting those feelings into concepts is how you realize your enjoyment. So, in the end, people who lack the creativity to come up with explanations for their feelings will struggle to enjoy it. Obviously being able to conceptualize makes you enjoy a more vast range of music, but most of the time they will have lyrics to aid you. Bands like Godspeed You! Black Emperor are less palatable for some cause of this I'd say. That's why I think more complex electronics are more challenging and really show the capability of this skill. But I'd say I agree with your points.>>131491918I used Mills as an example. I could say Autechre, Shoppongle, Eternal Basement... I still think he has some bangers man. The album where The Bells is, is great. I do prefer others. Check out TØXINE on Bandcamp. And I even enjoy some Calvin Harris, its just easy listening compared to other things. It doesnt reward your engagement with the song unlike others in which you may find a different melody to bang your head to on the 3rd listen.
>>131462302>extreme metal is the only form of music that has never been mainstreamedit was attempted in the mainstream in the 90s and failed. extreme metal is basically financially unviable and the only people who do it are diehards who would never allow pop music fusion. also pop music guys wouldn't want to do it because it would be financial suicide
>>131461195Monophonic music is the purest and superior form of music.
>>131493555>And putting those feelings into concepts is how you realize your enjoyment. So, in the end, people who lack the creativity to come up with explanations for their feelings will struggle to enjoy it.maybe I misunderstand you, and I don't mean to strawman you, so feel free to correct me where you think fit. but I'm not sure I agree. I think there's something to the sense of "putting your finger on it," the Why of your particular taste, but I don't think you need to have even a fragment conception of why you like a given piece in order to enjoy it. I'm not a psychologist, and don't know *exactly* what's going on when we like a given piece, but in the sort of liking or enjoyment I'm talking about it seems pre-rational. you might be able to put it into words after the fact - and, personally, I think that's all post-hoc; I don't think we really understand our music taste at all - but that doesn't cause your base enjoyment, I don't think.
>>131492762>huhuhu everyone is stupid but me huhusay your hot takes pussyi bet your takes are lame and gay
>>131462302This reminds me of how I really liked the way Issues blended djent with pop/R&B/sometimes new jack swing sound. The djent elements actually complemented the pop side by giving the songs some texture and bite.
>>131461195American Idiot was good.
>>131494881I think its reception was just faggot America being closed-minded
>>131464525The audience sucks and deserves to be berated until they stop sucking.
>>131474572Japan's music is terrible. They should stick to making science-fiction cartoons.
>>131494881this is only a hot take on /mu/ and literally nowhere else
