>>131501736Announcements:>1) Don't worry, it's just fiction.>2) We just talk about pop music and flirt with each other.>3) We don't hate pop stars. We just hate the posters.>4) All Swifties are Tayzos, and Tayzos are Tayzos.>5) I love her!>6) We engage in a moderate amount of tomfoolery.>7) Everyone is gay on /wpop/, even the straights.>8) /wpop/ has found no link between itself and making shit threads.>9) We're all retarded.>10) Drizzy won.>Recent singles<https://www.albumoftheyear.org/2026/releases/september-09/?type=single&genre=15https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/popular/single/2026.08.05-2026.09.05/g:pop,-j-pop,-k-pop/l:en/>Recent albums<https://www.albumoftheyear.org/genre/15-pop/recent/https://rateyourmusic.com/charts/popular/album/2026.08.05-2026.09.05/g:pop,-j-pop,-k-pop/l:en/>Upcoming albums<https://www.albumoftheyear.org/upcoming/
Shit thread
Blessed thread
i was at my crib, with some 3 other bitches that were 3 or 4 older than me, playing all kind of fuckass games, cards and whatnot. the bitchass-nigga-me at the time had this BRILLIANT idea of "playing drunk" even tho the nigga did not know what drunks do ; so I find myself fake wobbling and saying some nonsense like swear words and shi "you ugly" "show me you ugly" trying to annoy those bitches. No response, the nigga says "show me your ugly ass" and on and on and on until one of them just did, full spread and all, that lil jit was petrified NIGGA SAW A PAIR OF CHEEKS FOR NO REASON... that made them GO FURTHER and then they put one bitch on the ground undressing her shi to show me "stuff" NIGGA WHAT THE HELL HE WAS STILL NOT MOVING LIKE DAMN U NIGGA U GAY and then they start pinning me on the ground and played with my JEWELRIES cause THEY DEADASS DID NOT SEE ONE BEFORE! NO CONSENT WATSOEVER LIKE DAMN, FOR 10 MINUTES THEY PINNED MEWe were laughing NIGGA U GETTING ASSAULTED BY BITCHES NO SHIT TO GIGGLE HEREBut they keep running after me, rinse and repeat that MFuntil my mom saw us..she assumed we were fighting and shiDAMNI SWEAR ON MY LEFT NUT THIS IS TRUE, CAUSE DAWG
>>131505798Trvke
>>131505803Trvke
CREAM LEAKING TEAM SPORTS FOR SYD SYD & CUNN CUNN!!!
>>131505803Correct.
>|wp0p|~BigBrina3000 slaps XxX_ch4ppy_XxX around a bit with a large trout.
>>131505825not attractive at all
>>131505832Turn on your monitor
>>131505832i want to MARRY her. I would follow all the marriage vows for her. she's my baby. you wouldn't understand...
>>131505852butterface
>>131505852She's gonna waste away from cervical, butthole, and titty cancer I promise
>>131505859>>131505860you boys be nice to the chap now
>>131505859i love her in any shape or form. i think she's beautiful and precious.>>131505860i love her therefore I'll take care of her.
Physically attacking Kayleigh Amstutz
>>131505900Laughing at your loneliness and how you deserve nothing but your continued loneliness and pain and sadness.
>>131505900-grabs him by the throat- back the fuck off!?!?
>>131505922Ella Langley looking rough
Physically protecting Chappell Roan from attackers
Liv sip nibble CHOMP
>>131506010i see no nibble
>>131506026You don't deserve to see her nibbles
Following Chappell Roan everywhere in a monster truck and running over anyone who acts threatening towards her
>>131506033don't get me wrong, a pretty girl like her deserves to and should eat chomping style.
Attacking Kayleigh Amstutz with box cutters
Kissing Kayleigh Rose Amstutz's brown flower
>>131506062Turning you into a string of hot dogs to feeding you to Kayleigh if she's not a vegan.
>>131506062Get your own pop star torture schtick!!! X-(
>>131506090Stop stealing people's posting style
Good morning
Throwing acid on a man for no apparent reason besides my feelings hurt
>>131506311Acid attacks are scary as fuck. I saw a YouTube video on Mark Van Dogan. It's super depressing. That black stuff on the sheets is his melted flesh
Using strong acids to burn off the scabs, warts, and thick deformed hairs on my anus for sexual Clairo
Nineveh and Birkinbro are the only real ones on here
kpop won
I want to fuck her armpits
>>131506821She's the hottest pop girl cause you can actually have a decent conversation with her
She's waiting to talk to you.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9kJ00Vq7Jg
>>131506865Hi BuddyOn another note, pixie cut Maggie looks like Charlotte Rampling in The Night Porter.
>>131506926The CIA is spending billions to make sure she flops. I mean it's working...
>>131506878She'd think I'm cool and nonchalant >>131506891Have you checked this out?
>>131506926Xitter has some bangers
>>131507003kek
>>131506978I've heard it referenced to death and a sample from its sequel even appeared on an Impetigo song, but no, I haven't seen any of the Ilsa movies:https://youtu.be/PrNa_vwpzWo?t=51
>>131505789>pop>drakeBro drake is a rapper>>131506978This is where all women belong. Especially lindsay clancy type ones. Send them to hell.
>>131507036>Bro drake is a rapper>"'bout to go thriller, mike jackson on these niggas"erm, drake is pop, sweaty
i sent my ex this taytay songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4nf4GwIZooand i hope he takes me back so bad
>>131507204>and i hope he takes me back so badhaven't you been wanting that for a little while now? don't know all of your situation, but I wonder at what point it'd be better to look elsewhere.
>>131507232i tried grindr several times but all men wanna do there is have sex and i want to cuddle and make out and cry together and stuff
>>131507036>Bro drake is a rapperHow do we tell him?
>>131507251You need a woman for that.
>>131507278Lol
>>131507251>i tried grindr several times but all men wanna do there is have sexwell I'm not a friend of dorothy, but isn't that what it was always intended to be for? genuinely don't mean to be rude, but that's like going to a pizza place and being upset that all they have is pizza. you gotta exhaust your options, nonny.
>>131507278Jaboukie is cringe
Why the fuck y'all keep saying nonny, that shit sounds like nonce
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L43gRv9Et2wshe actually named it crank 2 lmao
>>131507280women want a man, and im a swiftie>>131507286you mean i should try other dating apps instead? hmm maybe i should(i do love pizza though)
>>131507297oh nonny, quit being a nonce>>131507288I vaguely remember him from my Twitter days, but I do remember him being a fag. anyone who orders you to Say the Thing (tm) is a fag.
>>131507313incomprehensible industrial jersey club slop
>>131507318tay pit >>>also yeah other dating apps, but even more conventional methods if you're up for it. I'm more introverted myself, so I could understand if the latter is less appealing, though.>(i do love pizza though)c'est la meilleure !
>>131507342so you prefer the original? or just hatin
>>131507359yea im very shy and introverted to be out there..
>>131507313Based movie too.Chat GPT basically called me an autist
>>131507367Gotta warn you. LLMs constantly blow smoke up your ass, so never take any personal assessment of what you feed into it seriously. It can be helpful for advice or even as a debate partner, but don't let it kiss your ass and convince you that you're a supergenius.
>>131507363yeah the og is better but i'm not a really big fan of that eitherbrand new chanel$ was fucking awesome tho it's even better than beat up chanel$
>>131507366I feel ya. I've started here and there to try to be more extroverted, making little comments to people in public, then doing it with a little more frequency. it can be a nice way to overcome that shyness. but I would imagine there are decent apps you could find for your desires. also being clear about your intentions to a prospective partner.
>>131507379I always add brutally honest to the prompt and it usually works
>>131507401thank you for your encouragement nonny!
Tripfags are typa niggas to write "Prompt Master" to their biography
>>131507423<33
>>131506926>>131506962What a waste.
i want FIGHT for this woman's approval
I got chatgpt to take Hellraiser from a 9/10 to a 4.5-5/10 once
>>131507462
>>131507479
>>131505789Tell me, /wpop/. Who's your main woman? Whose music do you like that also find attractive? Are there women whose music you like but don't find attractive and vice versa? And who are those you neither like musically nor do you find attractive?My main /wpop/ woman: Maggie Rogers/wpop/ women whose music I like that I find attractive: Rose McDowall / Strawberry Switchblade, Caroline Polachek, Clairo, Tove Lo, Carly Rae Jepsen*, Debbie Harry, Kate Bush, Kylie Minogue, Olivia Rodrigo, Hayley Williams, Phoebe Bridgers/wpop/ women whose music I like but don't find attractive: Slayyyter, Siouxsie Sioux, Halsey, Grace Jones/wpop/ women whose music I'm indifferent to but find attractive: Lana Del Rey, Hannah Diamond/wpop/ stars whose music I wanted to like but couldn't that I don't find attractive: Florence Welch. This one hurts because the woman is immensely talented and can sing, but her music just doesn't connect with me at all./wpop/ women whose music I don't like but find attractive: Christina Aguilera (prime era), Katy Perry, Camila Cabello, Madison Beer, Tate McRae, Zara Larsson, Addison Rae, Ashnikko, Avril Lavigne, Shakira, Rebecca Black, Lady Gaga/wpop/ women whose music I neither like nor find attractive: Lorde, Grimes, Bebe Rexha, Ava Max, Beyoncé, Taylor Swift, Gracie Abrams, Doja Cat, Megan Thee Stallion, Sabrina Carpenter, Björk, Dua Lipa, Billie Eilish, Anitta, Charli XCX, Six Sex
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>>131507589chappell roan 5 minutes after shooting that brazilian kid
What's the consensus on Hayley Nichole Williams
liv pit, tongue, and cleavage >>>>
>>131507533My main /wpop/ woman: There are too many. I can't choose just one./wpop/ women whose music I like that I find attractive: Addison Rae, Arca, Ayesha Erotica, beabadoobee, Beyoncé, Billie Eilish, Björk, Carly Rae Jepsen, Caroline Polachek, Chappell Roan, Charli xcx, Clairo, Ethel Cain, FKA Twigs, Françoise Hardy, Grace Jones, Grimes, Hannah Diamond, Hayley Williams, Jessie Ware, Jill Bryson (Strawberry Switchblade), Kali Uchis, Kim Petras, Kylie Minogue, Lady Gaga, Lana Del Rey, Lauren Mayberry (CHVRCHES), Lorde, Madonna, Marina, Mica Tenenbaum (Magdalena Bay), Miley, Mylène Farmer, Oklou, Olivia Rodrigo, Phoebe Bridgers, PinkPantheress, Rebecca Black, Rihanna, Rosalía, Rose McDowall (Strawberry Switchblade), Sevdaliza, Siouxsie Sioux, Sky Ferreira, SZA, The Last Dinner Party, Tinashe, Underscores, Weyes Blood/wpop/ women whose music I like but don't find attractive: Cece Natalie, Frost Children, Kelela, Mitski, Rina Sawayama, Robyn, Slayyyter/wpop/ women whose music I'm indifferent to but find attractive: Ariana Grande, Debbie Harry, Doja Cat, Dua Lipa, Halsey, Jane Birkin, Kacey Musgraves, Kesha, Maggie Rogers, Raye, Zara Larsson/wpop/ stars whose music I wanted to like but couldn't that I don't find attractive: Aurora, Ella Langley, Lights, Lizzo, Lola Young/wpop/ women whose music I don't like but find attractive: Ashnikko, Ava Max, Avril Lavigne, Bebe Rexha, Christina Aguilera, Florence Welch, Gracie Abrams, Katy Perry, Laufey, Madison Beer, Megan Thee Stallion, Rita Ora, Sabrina Carpenter, Shakira, Taylor Swift, Tyla/wpop/ women whose music I neither like nor find attractive: Adele, Adéla, Anitta, Audrey Hobert, Camila Cabello, Eartheater, HAIM, Melanie Martinez, Rose Gray, Six Sex, Tate McRae, Tove Lo, Zheani
is Bob Weir the best to ever do it?
>>131507749yeah
>>131507749nah
>>131507749gotta be
>>131507749duh
>>131507799biner !!
>>131507817
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHNskK_88DoY'all trippin'!
>>131507648My gym stopped playing "Parachute" but it still plays tunes from Paramore. Go figure.>>131507677Yeah, HAIM fucking sucks.
>R. Kelly
>>131507817good soul. rip.
My favorite part of One Battle After Another is when Alana Haim gets murked
Does she have the ‘tism?
>>131507908he's lying, btw
>>131507901I preferred Alana's music pre-transition.
>>131507901I love these dyke whores so much it's unreal. :)
>>131505801In a sane world she is a 7/10 freshly graduated feom college. Probably working as a nurse or pharmacist or something and engaged to her college/hs sweetheart. Instead she is a gigaslut with a blown out vagina at 23. Fuck the modern world.
>>131507908Dog whistle
counting or not counting tooly violence
>>131507927>>131507930
>>131507932
>>131507945
>>131507722>Imagine the taste of her sweaty girlcock
>a bunch of tranny degenerates find Charlie Kirk's death funny more news at eleven
>>131507982>“When we win, do not forget that these people want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think it's funny.”
she was in radical chatrooms discussing the founding fathers
>>131507982
i didn't realize today was the 1 year anniversary.due time for another assassination. CK was so random he wasn't even the worst one. i can name so many more deserving.
>>131507533I dont have a waifu (yet) im a tourist but>like musicolivia charli kimpetras slayyyter aysha chappel ladygaga mitski clairo billie>like lookstaytay jane birkin shakira selena gomez ashnikko avril lavigne>liek music and lookshayley lana rihanna britney bjork
i want to have sex with hayley williams
>>131507993
>>131508029>CK was so random he wasn't even the worst one. i can name so many more deserving.what made him deserving at all?
>>131508049that's a fair point but it wasn't for us to decide. the shooter felt differently and we have to respect that and his wishes. freedom of guns and freedom to shoot whoever you want and all that good stuff. don't like it, vote for gun control. till then don't complain about who gets shot because obviously you don't really care.
>>131507982It is, now kill yourself
>>131508075>till then don't complain about who gets shot because obviously you don't really care.that's a false dichotomy. genuine care is about sentiment, not prescriptions. two people can, say, earnestly want to help an individual but come to two different conclusions about how to achieve that.>freedom of guns and freedom to shoot whoever you want and all that good stuff.that's a strawman. believing in "freedom of guns" is a platitude, like many political ideas. people mean somewhat varied and particular things when they use them. just as being "pro-choice" doesn't mean you have to be for the abolition of age of consent laws because, "Well, it should be people's choice. It's in the name!" you can disagree with the ideas, but at least describe them accurately.
if everybody was me, there would be zero shootings, killings, etc. the news people would be so bored.
>>131507982>Like you don't laugh when someone you don't like diessave me the moralfaggotry
Post your favorite Tom Bugs songs https://youtu.be/lJ7QTRzV9RM
>>131508153Lol
>>131507982>>131507993why should we give a fuck about that asshole? did you care about the other innocent victims of gun violence? what made him so special?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_U.S._schoolshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
counting or not counting bina violence
Giant Bugs from spaceSnuff the human raceThen they eat your faceNever leave a trace!La-la, la-la-la, la-la, la-la-la!La-la, la-la-la!
>>131508153based
I like Tom Bugs more than Tom Bina but not calling him "Bugs Bina" was a serious fumble at its inception
https://www.tiktok.com/@summerdaseason/video/7683810917594828062
>SAUDI ARABIA HAS INFORMED OPEC THAT OIL PRODUCTION DROPPED AGAIN, REACHING THE LOWEST LEVEL SINCE 1990.
>>131508188>did you care about the other innocent victims of gun violence?>other innocent victimsso is he innocent or not? do you not care about innocent victims? if he is innocent, and you don't care, why should we care about any innocent victim? if he's not, then what makes someone an innocent victim of gun violence?but to answer your question, yes, I would like there to be no innocent gun deaths. what makes him "special" is the sheer contrast between how lukewarm is ideas were and the glee and/or indifference with which people described his death. it shows just how many people on the left are willing to disregard or cheer for the death of someone with milquetoast ideas. these people are your coworkers, care providers, etc.
>>131508239chills when she said this on Expectations
>>131508241He was unarmed and not provoking anyone physically. he was sitting there talking. so yes of course that was an innocent death. and i never agreed with anything he anything he ever said but that's what happened.
>>131508239livvy doing SOAD lyrics now??
>>131508268>but that's what happened.so you wouldn't really have any principled reason for someone to feel that way about you, right? if you were shot for your political beliefs? "well, I mean it was an innocent death, and I don't agree with their politics, but it is what it is." that'd be fair of me to say, would it not?
>>131508241i disagree with your characterization of his ideas being lukewarm and milquetoast judging by some of the quotes attributed to him. possibly cherrypicked by people making him look bad. but still
>>131508287i mean he was the one all for that sort of thing until it happened to him, wasn't he? if it was someone else, he'd be gloating about it
>>131508287>have any principled reason for someone to feel that way about youI mean any reason for *disagreeing* with someone feeling that way
>>131508233It was called that at first but Schtickposter just called him "Tom Bugs" for some reason because he's a fuckin idiot and it just stuck
>>131508287if you or any of us got shot charlie kirk would not give a shit i promise you
>>131508289>"I disagree with your characterization of quotes I've seen others make attributed to him, but I actually don't know whether or not they're accurate or how accurate. they might even be cherrypicked but I'm going to make a definitive statement about your characterization, specifically that I disagree."
bugs bina was his slave name given by his deadbeat father schtickposter. tommy k prefers to go his own way however
>>131508304i meant i never watched him or his show. did you? i don't think people were making up what he said. the man had some dangerous ideas. by most accounts, he was not a good guy.
>>131508295>i mean he was the one all for that sort of thing until it happened to him, wasn't he?mark my words: you will absolutely *not* do this, because you can't. but by all means, find me a single instance of him saying that he thinks anyone should be able to kill anyone with a gun.>>131508302and what's the belief of yours based on?>>131508321>"I never watched his show, but I *know* he had dangerous ideas. you *have* to trust me." you are making judgements about a person whose ideas you yourself admit you haven't looked into and are accepting second-hand accounts. you don't see a problem there?
Mikebros...........
Daddy Nike!
>>131508343>you don't see a problem there?not meant to be green text
money drugs chains on my chest that vintage celiiine
>>131508343>>131508350look if it makes you feel better you can have hasan piker. please take him, he's all yours. then we'll call it even
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bjj1oJhlyAA
Schtickposter cried the day Charlie Kirk died.
>>131508360what a lack of a response
https://youtu.be/rbOTn4KQCAE
>>131508344still not as bad as michael jackson so until people disavow MJ i don't care about anything anybody else does. and Mike Love and Beach Boys made better music than that fruitcake too so there.
Not him but you won't accept any response, it'll be deflecting and "oh he didnt say that"Charlie deserved it womp womp cry about it faggot
>>131508343>find me a single instance of him saying that he thinks anyone should be able to kill anyone with a gunkind of a disingenuous way to frame it, of course no one's gonna say it's ok to just go out and randomly shoot peoplebut i'm not gonna feel bad about guys dying by gun violence when they say stuff like this
Tom Bugs' wikipage controversies section
>>131508344Yeah, he's a piece of shit
>>131508382i thought you just had sour grapes that it was one of your guys who got it and not one of ours. sorry i misjudged you. but seriously. please take hasan piker off our hands before he costs us the midterms and the next presidential race. our side isn't allowed to have people like that.
>>131508400
>>131508426>Conservative firebrand
>>131508344James Woods had his allegations resurface just now too. He's retired and a MAGA boomer though. He was good in Casino
But Bina, I'm Jewish
>>131508435he retired? LOL
>>131508435>He's retired and a MAGA boomer though.Mike Love is one too.
>>131508397>kind of a disingenuous way to frame itI would say a bit more, actually. after I had posted it I thought I could've given a more precise/charitable framing. so that's my bad.>picrelthat's a famous quote of his, but it's often mischaracterized. it also eludes people that they already believe the same principles about most things. he was answering a question about lesser evils. not that in some absolute sense gun deaths are good. but that it's very unrealistic to eliminate guns but absolutely get rid of innocent gun deaths. it's just that the alternative is worse. you can disagree with that if you like, but that's the idea, not how it's often caricatured.most people, for instance, aren't for car deaths in some absolute sense, but implicitly we believe that it's a lesser evil to allow that possibility while still having cars, giving people the freedom to drive. the idea that you're gonna get rid of them completely while allowing them to be driven is naive.>Not him but you won't accept any response, it'll be deflecting and "oh he didnt say that"maybe, maybe not. I'm not claiming to be morally perfect, but I wasn't an avid viewer of Charlie's when he was alive and am happy to say if there's something he said which contradicts what I believe or if there's some incoherency in his own beliefs. but thus far no one has provided anything.>Charlie deserved it womp womp cry about it faggotall that does is warrant the same view from the other side. don't be upset when others do the same to people you regard as innocent.
>>131508435was he always like this (magaboomer) or did that pre-9/11 "terrorist rehearsal" flight fry his brain? real shame what became of him, i always like him in movies
>>131508448latter half meant for >>131508393
>all that does is warrant the same view from the other side. don't be upset when others do the same to people you regard as innocent.>implying it hasn't been five years of george floyd jokes (who nobody gives a shit about besides right wingers)>implying there hasn't been countless alex pretti and renee good jokes>implying it hasn't been years of jokes about ice (suddenly it doesn't matter that they have families and kids, unlike kirky)>implying it hasn't been years of making fun of trans peoples suicidesOh well
>>131508441that's a shame. still i don't think mike love has said anything really bad. was gonna say he hasn't done anything bad but he does have those allegations. huh. well. nobody's perfect? i dunno i want to like him but he's making it hard to.
>>131508470nothing in my post implied none of that happened, or that we were working with a blank slate in terms of political mud-slinging. all I'm saying is if you're one of the people to engage in it, you are complicit; you can't argue with the other side doing it without being a hypocrite.
Motherfuck Politics!
>>131508491Esto
>>131508471Even aside from the allegations, he's always been a dick.
>Thank you for defending me on wpop, anon- Charlie Kirk in Jewish heaven
who you like to see be nextpiers morganalex jonestucker carlsonsean hannity mark levinthat younger gay looking guy with the beard i forget his name
>>131508448>most people, for instance, aren't for car deaths in some absolute sense, but implicitly we believe that it's a lesser evil to allow that possibility while still having cars, giving people the freedom to drive. the idea that you're gonna get rid of them completely while allowing them to be driven is naive.Cars are a method of transport
>>131508507Matt Walsh?
>>131508515no but him too
>>131508507That indonesian faggot that larps as an american
>>131508531dinesh d'souza?
man theres so many i forgot about ben shapiro and that bongino fuckersome of the older fucks that arent relevant anymore like glenn beck and bill o'reilly
>>131508511>Cars are a method of transportI didn't say otherwise. you're implying that my analogy is disanalogous, but that depends on the particular comparison I was making. this is the comparison:with cars>car deaths are not favorable per se>it is unlikely to wholly eliminate car deaths without getting rid of cars completely>it is better to have cars than to not have them>allow for the potential of car deaths while still having carswith guns>gun deaths are not favorable per se>it is unlikely to wholly eliminate gun deaths without getting rid of guns completely>it is better to have guns than to not have them>allow for the potential of gun deaths while still having guns
steve bannon remember him? he's still around. one of the worst actually and that's saying something
>this thread
how come i cant remember that guys name wtf
>>131508566It is disanalogous. Car deaths and gun deaths don't exist in a vacuum. Most car deaths are accidents. Unless you have the data to prove otherwise, I don't believe there's an epidemic of road rage drivers going around and intentionally running over people or crashing onto others.
>>131508440>>131508441He's guilty af>>131508507Do you guys remember all those anti SJW Youtubers that all identified as "classical liberals"? Fantano was good friends with most of them
>>131508620>Most car deaths are accidentsI can concede that, but that wasn't part of my comparison. this happens a lot, where you compare two things in a specific way or a specific set of ways, and someone says, "Yeah but they're different." two things can be mostly different, but if they're the same in one way, and your comparison of them is regarding that similarity, then your comparison is fine. I already laid out the specific comparison I was making, and you keep going to things I wasn't talking about.
white but with a hispanic spanish foreign name. not ted cruz, much younger. gayer face.can see his stupid face in my head but blanking on the name. i think hes even younger than charlie kirk actually so that should narrow it down. i thought he was too young to be conservative
>>131508673Nick fuentes?
>>131508678yes! that's it! thank you lol
>>131508643I agree two things don't need to be identical in every way for a comparison to hold but the reason the accident factor matters to your specific comparison is that the "lesser evil" logic depends entirely on the nature of the risk being accepted. With cars the trade-off is accepting unintentional risk as a byproduct of utility, where harm is mitigated through regulation, infrastructure, and safety design. With guns, a substantial portion of the risk is intentional harm where the tool is functioning exactly as intended.We evaluate whether a risk is "worth it" differently when dealing with collateral accidents versus deliberate harm. The calculation of what constitutes an acceptable "lesser evil" for cars doesn't map onto guns.
Pepe the frog
>>131508727respectfully this is missing the point. you are right in the sense that the circumstances around car deaths and gun deaths can, perhaps should, and normally do matter when people are justifying their lesser evil argument, but the validity or soundness of the lesser evil argument is different from the validity or soundness of the comparison between the underlying rationale for it being a lesser evil to allow the purchasing of guns or cars.my comparison doesn't necessitate either lesser evil argument being coherent, it depends on whether the rationales are equivalent in the way I say they are - and they are.
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>>131508809
>>131508036dont respond to ninnys shitty copypastas anon. this advice comes in good faith since youre a tourist.
>>131508769No anon, not really. You're separating the structure of the logic from the content of the logic, but an analogy requires both to be valid. If we reduce any trade-off to "accepting risk X is worth benefit Y" then every trade-off shares the exact same rationale structurally. But an analogy only works if the relationship between X and Y in the first case actually mirrors the relationship between X and Y in the second. In the case of cars, the risk is accidents traded for the benefit of daily civil utility. In the case of guns, the risk is intentional lethal force traded for individual defense/rights. Because the underlying relationship between the risk and the benefit is completely different in kind, saying "the rationales are equivalent" reduces the argument to a surface level semantic template instead of a functional analogy.But you know all this, don't you?
>>131508809>>131508830
when did slipknot jump the shark for you
>>131508900vermilion pt 2 video
>>131508809>>131508830the most beautiful angel in the whole world <3
Zebrooly cake
Opeth or Tool?
Grim thread
yeah this thread sucks because of all the livvy posters. someone gotta nuke livvieshq
Anyways slayyyter released Crank 2
Slayer >>> Slayyyter
gayyyter
>>131508900The G(r)ay Chapter
>>131508873>but an analogy requires both to be validno it doesn't. if one person says we should do x because not doing so is dangerous, and another says we should do y because not doing so is dangerous, and I say, "They both think that what they advocate for is good/preferable because not doing so would be dangerous," it doesn't matter the particulars of their belief or its truth value in order for my comparison to be right, because I'm not comparing the further particulars or the truth value, and could readily agree there are differences at that level.>Because the underlying relationship between the risk and the benefit is completely different in kind, saying "the rationales are equivalent" reduces the argument to a surface level semantic template instead of a functional analogy.I'm not saying "the rationales are equivalent" in an unqualified way, and I'm not saying the risk-benefit analysis is fully comparable, but there is a risk-benefit analysis which results in the conclusion. I made specific comparisons. please, point out whether any of these comparisons are false:>1. most people do not believe car deaths per se are good; most gun advocates do not think gun deaths per se are goodis any of that wrong?>2. most people believe that it is very unlikely that we can reduce the number of car deaths per year without also wholly getting rid of cars; gun advocates believe that it is very unlikely that we can reduce the number of gun deaths per year without also wholly getting rid of gunstrue or false for either case?>3. most people believe that it is better to have cars than to not have them; gun advocates believe it is better to have guns than to not have themeither of those wrong?>4. most people conclude, implicitly or explicitly, that we should allow for the potential of car deaths but still have cars; gun advocates conclude, implicitly or explicitly, that we should allow for the potential of gun deaths but still have guns.both of those are true, right?
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>>131509020not reading that
thoughts, jane b?
>>131509020>comparisons are falseand just to be clear, I'm not talking about false in terms of the truth value. I just mean that these premises exist, that people say or believe such things.
>>131509038no Kurosawa?
>>131509010Correct.
>>131509004Cry more ZP
is jane birkin even in a good movie
>>131509059Yeah, The Beautiful Troublemaker (1991)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGk-sx_N7jUthe shangri-las are the best girl group but i know y'all not ready foh dat conservation now run tell dat ya feel mei know das right
zps won
ZP Theart
>>131509020All you did was shift the goalposts from making a functional analogy to constructing a descriptive parallel. Yeah none of your 4 individual statements are false as isolated descriptions of what those two groups believe but listing four true descriptions of two different beliefs does not mean the comparison between them is logically sound or instructive.I can state that lightbulbs emit light using electricity and nuclear reactors emit thermal energy using fission, both statements are true. But if I try to use lightbulbs to explain or justify nuclear energy policy, the comparison fails because the operational mechanics and risk profiles aren't remotely equivalent (I'm pro-nuclear btw).You are isolating the psychological sequence of how gun advocates reason and showing it looks like how drivers reason. But showing that two groups use the same 4-step thought pattern doesn't mean the trade-off being made in point 4 is equally valid or comparable in both cases.Yes, gun advocates believe those four things about guns, and drivers believe those four things about cars. But pointing out that two groups share a mindset isn't an argument that their trade-off logic holds equal weight, it just proves that both groups use trade-off logic. If all you're saying is "gun advocates use a lesser-evil framework that resembles the car framework" then sure, that's historically true as a descriptive fact. But if you're using that to imply the car trade-off validates or justifies the gun trade-off, the analogy breaks down the moment you look at what is actually being traded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gpoTKWg8bg
youre not buying a car to kill.
>>131509157It really is that simple
what the fuck are you faggots rambling about? i thought this was /mu/?
>>131509157
what you rather buygun - kills peoplecar - kills people. and probably some other stuff too i guessthink you get more value with the car
https://www.tiktok.com/@fawcette_/video/7683611952089697567
>>131509038She never came off as a film enthusiast so this is unsurprising>>131509059Blow-Up, La Piscine, Wonderwall, Le Mouton enragé, Comment réussir quand on est con et pleurnichard, the list goes on. I've only seen 8 from her
>>131509092nobody's saying this
Fuck everyone who blamed me for making shit political.
why is it so hard for conservatives and liberals to agree to disagree
>>131509128>But if you're using that to imply the car trade-off validates or justifies the gun trade-off, the analogy breaks down the moment you look at what is actually being traded.perhaps this is my fault, as I think I could generally be more clear in discussions, but this seems to be a key point of misunderstanding. I never intended to ultimately justify either rationale. the purpose of the comparison was to show that 1. the quote contains a lesser evil argument, and 2. people believe in such arguments in some form or other, so you can't coherently dismiss it on the grounds of being a lesser evil argument.you could make a coherent argument for why you disagree with the gun lesser evil argument in it's particular form, but that would be different from doing so based on its general form. obviously it would be absurd to say, "Well you affirm a pragmatic argument here, therefore you have to affirm them in all cases." I was clearing up the meaning of the quote, not justifying it.
>>131509279it was also to point out that people who affirm a lesser evil argument with cars aren't inherently in favor of car deaths. similarly, affirming a lesser evil argument with guns doesn't mean you are in favor of gun deaths. people use the quote as if the case, but that's disingenuous or ignorant.
Take your asses to /pol/
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>>>/pol/542350930
Livvysisters why is she attacking /ourgirl/? She just invited her to her show!
>>131509312dumbass argument. no point. oh go to some one-sided board. what for?
>>131509335she doesn't mention Liv?
>>131509335alanis had what, three hits? thirty-plus years ago? and never made anything notable again. jfc these fucking boomers
Don't you dare disrespect Alanis!
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>>131509269How do you agree to disagree when it's essentially "Let's punish people who were born wrong" vs "nobody should be punished for things they had no choice in".How much punishment is acceptable? It's not like a "Pork is the best" vs "I like chicken best but let's agree to disagree" argument.
>>131509361way to miss her point there
>>131509361JLP was a dope album
>>131509377duer shaking her gypsy arse in your face
Livvyfeet are apolitical (and if anyone calls them gross they deserve to be kirked for their hateful rhetoric)
>>131509404In appreciation, may I bless this thread with Lorde's perfect and heavenly feet
who mogged here?
you little sluts
>>131509418they're all queens
>>131509418Choli mogged Tayble
>>131509418Anne
>>131509418FMK
>>131509418dua looks the best here in this pic but both dua and anne are mogging the oriental hard>>131509459hell no wtf>>131509460fair>>131509467fair
Finna beat off to JB (Jane Birkin) feet
>>131509504keep us posted on your progress
>>131505801Had the most wonderful dream. I was making love to a cute flip boi that looked just like this and kylie minogue's "love at first sight" was playing. It was soo cute we were both sighing, moaning and he was farting like a mf as pounded my meat into him. Then we gingerly held each other and he said to me "i love you unc daddy" i wanted to cry bros...
JB feet are going on timeout
chappy literacymaxxing
To steer this thread where it belongs, I noticed Slayyyter appears capable of energizing her audience so they jump and sing along with even her less popular songs. Look at these two shows:https://youtu.be/MqaV_kSCgq8https://youtu.be/DN4oUy5Jv1YMy darling, on the other hand, struggles to elicit anything more than polite wooooos. It's not that people weren't having a good time when I saw Maggie in 2023, but she didn't get half the audience this pumped. It's painful, actually.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXzB4v1Toj4
Does Niniveh prefer Jump by House Of Pain or Jump Jump by Kris Kross
>>131509538FEAROFMISSINGOUT
janey literacymaxxing
>>131509543Jump by Van Halen
>>131509538WOAT look why does he have curlers in his hair like an old woman or 50s housewife
>>131509543>>131509563Jump by Van Halen + House of Pain > Kris Kross.
Just found out JB (Jane Birkin) gone. Now I can't even get into my bag with her feets no more
>>131509538jesus christ his face is so ugly, i've never seen anyone in popular music look so ugly
>>131509579https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3rFgr0Tu1c
Tom Bina is a cartoon
what's your favorite tom and jerry cartoon. mine's heavenly puss
>>131509629Nigga I'm 49. You think I give a fuck bout cartoons?
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>>131509591>jesus christ his face is so ugly, i've never seen anyone in popular music look so uglyhave you seen muttlivia?
>>131509682>a year younger than my dadI hope you're pulling my leg
>>131509753Cooked that freak
please pick a good image for the next thread
>>131509753>>131509787go rape some more kids Audrey
>Drake (musician)why does wikipedia so blatantly lie like that
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