How the fuck did these fuckers get (relatively) big, let alone hang around for like twenty years?Cringiest shit-rock ever besides My Chemical Romance...Some of the guitar-work is decent and somewhat interesting, but the vocalist and his lyrics are the among the worst ever, would like to punch that fucker in the face if I ever saw him on the street, fuck Billy Talent
>>131509757Product of their time some desuThey were good to go hear live early, Pezz stuff like ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDKtfd-aA1k ) stopped having hope after their 2nd Billy Talent album...Why are you such a triggered little pussy about it though
>>131509757They were much better than Green Day, Sum 41, Simple Plan and other shit at the time, their first 2 albums still hold up well
>>131509757They had songs in a bunch of video games like NHL and Burnout
>>131510126Bullshit, Green Day were legit up until Nimrod, and even at his worst BillieJoe isn't as annoying or cringe as BT's dipshit singer
>>131509757Cancon
>>131510145WHY? is the question tho...
>>131510182Definitely a factor, not sufficient an explanation though
>>131510189because young people back then vibed with their music, take a look at some rock am ring tapes, they had the whole crowds jumpingthey did well back in the day, fostered a good community, just as the peak of the emo/scene came crashing down they shifted into more socially conscious themes when all those faux depressed idiots got a reason to actually be depressedalso as you said, Ian's guitar work is stellar and if we are being honest, he deserved a way better project than this but its no wonder their stuff catched on, they had great riffs
why did the guitar player change his hair?
>>131510246Vocals are nails-on-chalkboard obnoxious and lyrics are cringe AF though, don't get it..
>>131509757CanCon boost + appeal to Hot Topic kids in late 00s
>>131510279You'd be praising them if Olivia Rodrigo or a young female popstar performed them. You people don't take the time to step back and think about these different perspectives though so you?