>When you read that fucking Meet Me In The Bathroom book. It is so fucking embarrassing. These are all the fucking losers we blew the fuck out. These are all the fucking washed nobodies sitting at fucking Spin like Marc Spitz that had no fucking clue what was going on. They were writing about fucking The Vines. The Vines!
>>131684905He's mostly right about everything
>>131684905He's not wrong, the brooklyn indie hipster scene was nauseating and very shallow. Deifying people like Dash Snow tells you everything you need to know about them.
>>131685289>Dash Snow100% would've been #MeToo'd if he was still alive
>>131684905Which video does he talk about this book
>>131684905Can this faggot articulate a thought without cursing like a sailor? Should’ve stuck to writing.
>>131685918>Meet me in the bathroom? Ya so I can flush this piece of shit down the toilet where it belongs. What a shitload of fuck! FUUUCCKKK!!!!
>>131685339https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh8ylMl_-Sc
>>131685339Meet Me in the Washroom
>>131684905From writing Pitchfork reviews to middle school crossing guard I seeHarsh timesShit any job even like that got full benefits and insurance these days
>>131686140I thought he was a mechanic or something like that
I love this nigga like you wouldn’t believe. I started rewatching his videos while working, and he’s so astute about everything. Music journalism and music in general is gay as fuck now, and he predicted it.
>>131686384Music journalism died when they stopped gatekeeping and let the females, blacks, and gays in, and I mean that 100% unironically
>>131686414Oh I know, and my local music died a decade ago with metoo, racial politics and queer theory.
>>131684905They saved us from nu metal so it was worth it
Chris otts best albums of the 90s2003 listhttps://rateyourmusic.com/list/theoccasionalfeelgood/chris-ott%E2%80%99s-top-100-albums-of-the-90s-2003/
>>131686384It's worse than what he predicted.
>>131686384Music journalism doesn't exist anymore.The "mags" are just gossip columns about musicians fucking groupies and the "mags" trying to cancel the musicians.If you mean reviewers, no one cares about them anymore, it's all rym now.
>>131686530I’m a 38 year old unc and I’m so glad I never got into rate your music. I looked at afew times in 2008, and 2010 but the screen shots and threads I see on here make me happy I never got into it. Lol
>>131686701Its just imdb for music.The issue with rolling stone, pitchfork, stereogum, the melon etc being taste makers is it was always too small a sample of people.I wouldn't trust 4 "professional" reviewers' opinion on a movie on rotten tomatoes, why would I trust 4 "professional" reviewers on an album.RYM is a much better gauge because it's at least 100s of random people's opinion, the only issue RYM has, and it's a HUGE one, is it's a competition as well, you want your favorite band or album to be in the top albums of all time, so it gets skewed, people will rate albums poorly theyve never listened to, to get their favorite albums to the top.allmusic.com is much more trustworthy, in the member reviews, because there's no competition.
>>131686140Pitchfork was never a legitimate outlet. It existed in mutual symbiosis with the "hipster" scene, legitimizing their "tastes" and extending credibility in exchange for existential support. Once that scene dissolved, there was absolutely no patronage left, because Pitchfork never offered anything of substance or value which could be exchanged non-instrumentally. In other words, the only reason Pitchfork writers had a job is because it helped a certain kind of person appear more like a musical and cultural connoisseur, a bargain nobody else outside of this ilk was going to fall for.However, considering how many similarly hopeless zoomers worship and idolize Anthony, who has become Pitchfork as a person, perhaps there was hope yet if they had held on for at least half a decade longer.
>>131686414The "musical journalism" you have in mind is virtually not journalism at all. It's the equivalent of Reddit and old-tone-new-char-limit-Twitter posts.
>>131686458Leftist political tinging is hardly a step-down from what was merely hollow snark dressed up in purple psuedointellectual obscurantism.
>>131688466*pseudointellectual
>>131686789"Tastemakers" are supposed to have (good) taste. The trust comes from listening to the reviewer, and seeing their claims reflected in your own listening experience of the critiqued.
>>131686086this guy looks like a gen x geezer but his speech is unmistakeably millennial
>>131684905>These are all the fucking losers we blew the fuck out.why does he talk like a teenager in a clique
>>131688478>>supposed toWhat if I told you a bunch of pitchfork writer/reviewers were still in HIGH SCHOOL and college when they "worked for" pitchfork.They gave out 1s out of 10s on albums for fuck sake.The idea that they had good taste or knew what they were talking about is ridiculous, more like the publisher/head editor, who wasn't much older, asked them what they liked, and if they didn't have any stoner rock, buttrock, or hot topic emo in their likes they were in.
>>131688637>What if I told you a bunch of pitchfork writer/reviewers were still in HIGH SCHOOL when they "worked for" pitchfork.I wouldn't believe (You)
>>131688657>What I Learned as a Teenage Hip Hop Critic for Pitchfork>At seventeen, I spread the gospel of underground rap to a wider audience. But BIPOC music journalists are no longer afforded opportunities like mine.https://thewalrus.ca/bedroom-rapper/
>>131688657Matt Lemay, guy who gave a Liz Phair album 0.0>>To a smug 19-year-old Pitchfork writerhttps://americansongwriter.com/the-meaning-behind-why-cant-i-by-liz-phair-and-why-she-may-have-been-ahead-of-her-time/
Uppiez
>the vines make me think of the hives.
>>131684905I like The Vines, what I'm not supposed to like a Rock band because this guy doesn't like them?
>>131686470>only 1 grunge album in the listthis nigga alright.
>>131689968Yup
>>131688823he was right to do it. shit album.
I can't believe I worked at the same place as based ott and didn't message him about wham dude on slack
>>131689606Yes. Fuck you.
>6 sentences>8 fucksStill have yet to see any supporting evidence against this guy being anything beyond a self-important twat
>>131690427He watched High Fidelity and tried to make himself into John Cusack's character not realizing that the character is an annoying, juvenile POS.
>>131690427His generation was brought up to think that swearing is the coolest thing ever so I don't blame him
>>131686140that's from the covid streams he did during the scamdemic, he's dressed like the dude from the Big Lez Show
>>131690645>to think that swearing is the coolest thing everaccurate, this is something that needs a big nerf, as you grow up you realize swearing often is unnecessary and just bad tastegotta admit sometimes it can be funny, but otherwise... just nasty un-elegant aura, there's work to be done imc
>>131684905this dude is cringe
>>131686789No other website besides Discogs has a comparable database of releases to RYM's. You'll get the most out of RYM when you ignore the ratings and browse the site using customized charts and curated lists.
>>131690759you know what else is nasty un-elegant aura? posting on 4chan.
>>131690854depends what you post anon, you know that right?
>>131690882no, it really doesn't. the fact that this is how you choose to spend your free time means you are just as bad as the rest of us.
>>131688448Say what you want about Pitchfork, but it ultimately influenced what we call "/mu/core" during its golden era. Consequently, this shaped the RateYourMusic charts, affecting an entire new generation of music nerds online to adopt extremely similar tastes in music
Bamp
>>131691330Bump
Everyone who ever wrote for p4k should be put in chains
>man in his forties with TWO Smiths posters directly behind himAm I supposed to take this guy’s opinion seriously when he doesn’t have the good sense to be ashamed of having ever enjoyed that gay pseud band?
>>131690427>judging someone with one out of context quote while he's passionately dunking on poserscringe desu, come back later after you've studied ott's oeuvre and then you can have an opinion
Doop
>>131690953>it ultimately influenced what we call "/mu/core" during its golden erathat's not a good thing whatsoeverif Pitchfork-core is bad in the ways that it is, how do you think an offshoot will be any different?
>>131690953You're pleased by this shit?
>>131690410The Amazon Warehouse?They pay good benefits
>>131690410Go on anon, where does he work
>>131694002>>131694029I'm just saying that Pitchfork still indirectly influences the corners of the internet where music is concerned in reply to that anon. I couldn't care less about what people are initially exposed to when trying to explore music on the internet. You can go as deep as you want on your own discovery and realize where it all intersects if you're even a little bit aware
Uppers
>>131684905vines did suck
>>131684905>Check out this guy's channel>Half of the posts and videos are about him coming out as a gay manYeah, okay. Checks out.
>>131697329Those are just reuploads by a fan because Ott deletes his content from all his channels after some time.
>>131694130>>131694211You're closer than you think...
>>131684905I for one like the post punk revival/ early 200s new york scene. I exist. the music speaks to me really put turn on the bright lights on your car speakers at night while traveling and you will know.
>>1317002452000s* mb
>>131684905Grow up.
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>>131684905Bump
>>131690953>but it ultimately influencedP4k core isn't original per se, nmh, mbv and the like we're already a "canon" without them
Straight-up hated Nine Inch NailsThat was like, drama club musicThat shit was for like, weak fucking dorksnolikestraight-up likeyou gotta understand like, Nine Inch Nails was not embraced at all.Pretty Hate Machine was considered like... words I can't really use anymore. Let's say "wimpy".I mean cause he's just whiny, his voice is just so fucking annoying and nasal. I couldn't fucking stand Pretty Hate Machine. I thought it was the corniest shit ever. I'm not lying.Nah. Nine Inch Nails was not what you think it was. I mean yeah, Head Like a Hole got played, Down In It was a big fucking crossover hit on MTV and everything, but like, also like seeing him live... "YOU PUSSIES PROBABLY KNOW THIS ONE!!!" I mean he literally was yelling at the crowd, and he's like, the second act. Like it's daylight at lollapalooza when he's on in like spandex and shit, like what a fucking cornball.But yeah, no, I did NOT like Nine Inch Nails.And I mean I don't think anything he did... I don't like the Fragile, like, Downward Spiral I don't like any of this shit. I never liked this guy I mean I thought I liked the song Closer, March of the Pigs EP... I dunno I just never liked the guy I just thought he was always a bitch.Cause Trent Reznor's always been a bitch. He's just a fucking whiny, bitchy annoying fucking dude nobody wants to be around.
>>131684905that one vines song b gud tho
>>131708090>pitchfork wolverineLOL
>>131707868Definitely not NMH
>>131708090Women liked NiN and still do. If you were like this guy you were utterly confounded as to why they would like this guy who was basically a narcisscistic abuser. Big wake up moment.
>>131708090I like Ott but he sometimes misses the mark. He's dead wrong about Swans too, who he hates.
>>131708371At least he was right about the fact that no one wore white studded belts in the 2000s. Biggest lie ever promoted by underaged scenesters.
>>131708402Notice how he fixates on what people wear?
>>131708402Underage scenesters DID wear white studded belts in the 2000s though>>131708420rightfully so, music is a vehicle for fashion first and foremost
>>131708486Never seen it. If it was a hot topic emo thing
>>131708486>>131708703Here's a song from Rocket From The Crypt from 2002? mocking mallpunk emo kids wearing white belts.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ol1a8fpQxQ8
>>131708703It was a hot topic emo thing originally, but it did spill over onto normies for a couple years. Like 2006-2007
Shoegaze is awsum
>>131708162yes, it was zoomer
>>131710201Fuck NMH, millenigger. Not even Ott liked them
