Norwood 6 editionThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenPrevious: >>131664603
happy birthday 4chin!https://youtu.be/prj10ppAMec
now playingstart of Shostakovich: Violin Concerto No. 1 in A Minor, Op. 77https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-uVN-xAw9o&list=OLAK5uy_kzUSW2bYPZTzjTukJYU_ohUKMbAkqJn3A&index=2start of Hindemith: Violin Concertohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWqx95-uF0s&list=OLAK5uy_kzUSW2bYPZTzjTukJYU_ohUKMbAkqJn3A&index=5https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kzUSW2bYPZTzjTukJYU_ohUKMbAkqJn3A>Violinist Alexandra Tirsu presents her debut album comprising concertos by Dmitri Shostakovich and Paul Hindemith. Shostakovich's music has resonated with her since childhood, it's atmosphere reflecting the war stories she grew up with. Violin Concerto No. 1 unfolds like a psychological journey-from a shadowy opening to a fierce scherzo, an emotionally charged passacaglia, and a wildly ironic finale. Hindemith's rarely performed Violin Concerto, which Alexandra first explored at the ARD Competition in Munich, reveals a different voice: clear, structured, and quietly expressive. Recorded with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra under the baton of Vasily Petrenko, this album captures a moment of depth, identity, and emotional connection through two powerful 20th-century works.I always forget Hindemith has a violin concerto. Can't go wrong with Vasily Petrenko conducting.
>>131710589i have zero desire to hear anyone else than oistrakh in shostakovich's violin concerto
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now playingstart of Schumann: Symphony No. 3 in E-Flat Major, Op. 97 "Rhenish"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX1XS8DjR8w&list=OLAK5uy_mK2YKI2Us5WzKlnJAKc3BqFGRYT8CDgOk&index=10start of Schumann: Symphony No. 4 in D Minor, Op. 120 (Revised Version)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOg6n6rbfYs&list=OLAK5uy_mK2YKI2Us5WzKlnJAKc3BqFGRYT8CDgOk&index=15Schumann: Manfred, Op. 115: Overturehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Mi8jpWqPk&list=OLAK5uy_mK2YKI2Us5WzKlnJAKc3BqFGRYT8CDgOk&index=18https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mK2YKI2Us5WzKlnJAKc3BqFGRYT8CDgOk>George Szell was on record as saying that he believed there was no reason the Schumann symphonies shouldn't be "as popular as Tchaikovsky." When they're played like this, it's hard to disagree. Schumann is one of those composers that every conductor does, but that few do really well. Part of the problem stems from the monochrome orchestration. Szell makes minor adjustments for the sake of clarity, but otherwise leaves it up to his superb orchestra to achieve the proper balances. And despite the usual extraordinary discipline that he imposes on his players, he's not afraid to let the music's Romantic temper burst out now and again in a surge of energy. With excellently remastered sound, this set is certainly one for the record books. --David Hurwitz
>>131710458Final verdict: no part of this recording elicited any kind of strong reaction from me. Don't see myself ever listening to it again.
i am euphorichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UJM286c5mQ
>>131711720If you wanted quality Brahms released in the past 6 years, you should've tried Blomstedt/Gewandhaushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoWiQS8ybqI&list=OLAK5uy_l2K0gVatgxtYRwh2P7CgWroZ29OW5LfM0&index=1or Mehta/Munchnerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLaFo-dd2mk&list=OLAK5uy_nr9OQhCkGpkH9naVVmp7P3jkCr0RW8nDI&index=1or Seguin/COEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_ygsxV1fiE&list=OLAK5uy_mFzoDn4uEuRwPZVSsioWqMKxWVrvXwudk&index=1
I wish I could recommend Barenboim's Brahms cycle from 2018 but sadly I cannot. But just in case,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxeqBcE4w6s&list=OLAK5uy_koS0FGWy3u0CEMe1Jfhe-0OVQIN10d6gA&index=1
is it alright if I ask for recommendations? I want more of that lawrence of arabia, big theatrical oriental ancient mystery music. I have the sound tracks for lawrence, the brendan fraiser mummies, and indiana jones, I'd love more. if it helps I'm a huge NILE and melechesh fan too
>>131712170>is it alright if I ask for recommendations?Sure, what can we help you wit-->I want more of that lawrence of arabia, big theatrical oriental ancient mystery music. I have the sound tracks for lawrence, the brendan fraiser mummies, and indiana jones, I'd love more. if it helps I'm a huge NILE and melechesh fan too>mfw
continuing with Arrau's Beethoven piano sonatas cycleNo. 10 in G, Op. 14 No. 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIhTNpt_Pks&list=OLAK5uy_mgcxeWRckHc6JIZBB5G7J-8AmQClZuUDo&index=34No. 11 in B flat, Op. 22https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-roxyq_Cb0Q&list=OLAK5uy_mgcxeWRckHc6JIZBB5G7J-8AmQClZuUDo&index=37No. 12 in A flat, Op. 26, "Funeral March"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zD7er1ggeII&list=OLAK5uy_mgcxeWRckHc6JIZBB5G7J-8AmQClZuUDo&index=41No. 13 in E flat, Op. 27 No. 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOw4hbmeVUY&list=OLAK5uy_mgcxeWRckHc6JIZBB5G7J-8AmQClZuUDo&index=45No. 14 in C-Sharp Minor, Op. 27 No. 2 "Moonlight Sonata"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXSI_H0lhSU&list=OLAK5uy_mgcxeWRckHc6JIZBB5G7J-8AmQClZuUDo&index=48
anyone else love No. 5, "Les collines d'Anacapri" from Debussy's first book of Preludes? It always gets mehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2NwSkE6_eA&list=OLAK5uy_m-rXlX5Tls1QduuOD-GtPBegDdEoQQxNo&index=5and goes without saying No. 8, "La fille aux cheveux de lin" as wellhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYxBH7WGdWY&list=OLAK5uy_m-rXlX5Tls1QduuOD-GtPBegDdEoQQxNo&index=8
>>131712170oriental... hmm.... how about......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyXLeA7I5Ochttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMLGVNnCnVQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8rsOzPzYr8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6v2Zxq9wVM0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA5CImEv7UIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFEBkLThFkM
>Well, John, what did you think of the performance?>They may try to play like Horowitz, but that was Horo-ble.>*laughtrack*
hot take: if Stravinsky didn't have such a cool name and persona, he and his music wouldn't be even half as famous and revered
Can I get a hiss recommendation for Schubert's last three piano sonatas? Preferably by the same pianist on a single recording.
how fortunate for the classical community there isn't a choral masterpiece named Mass in A minor.
>>131712532>*laughtrack*
Is anybody creating new AND beautiful classical music? Almost everything 'modern' out there is just intellectual dick rubbing that sounds shitty, or minimalistic garbage with no substance or effect.
>>131713114https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj9C0DBVr_k
>>131710531/classical/, when I listen to most composers I could often imagine some changes. Mostly the ending, but sometimes even larger changes. Sure, I'm probably wrong about most of them, but I have, you know, ideas. Opinions. But not with Bach. I cannot imagine anything eclipsing Bach's vision. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzBXZ__LN_M
>*writes the best piano concerto*How?
>>131713635with his brain and hands, I'm assuming
>>131713114https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqtYe_17YYohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG-FPsHLN0w&list=OLAK5uy_loRV2vxQm_h3YzAbZwQyd62yXYPIgrtA4&index=2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngY4Bc3hTKw
Who is the Scriabin of Beethoven?
>>131714348Schumann, I guess.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afxr6pWwejk
>>131714424Not brahms?
>>131714476That's the Beethoven of Beethoven
Debussyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06jk5KSxlpk&list=OLAK5uy_kRK2Fvj4nP5GW-lXrA8aIEl2g5fB8fDi8&index=5
>The work has been described as a tribute to the waltz; the composer George Benjamin, in his analysis of La valse, summarized the ethos of the work: "Whether or not it was intended as a metaphor for the predicament of European civilization in the aftermath of the Great War, its one-movement design plots the birth, decay and destruction of a musical genre: the waltz."[1] But Ravel denied that La valse is a reflection of post-World War I Europe, saying, "While some discover an attempt at parody, indeed caricature, others categorically see a tragic allusion in it—the end of the Second Empire, the situation in Vienna after the war, etc... This dance may seem tragic, like any other emotion... pushed to the extreme. But one should only see in it what the music expresses: an ascending progression of sonority, to which the stage comes along to add light and movement."[2] Ravel also said in 1922, "It doesn't have anything to do with the present situation in Vienna, and it also doesn't have any symbolic meaning in that regard. In the course of La Valse, I did not envisage a dance of death or a struggle between life and death. (The year of the choreographic setting, 1855, repudiates such an assumption.)"[3]aka>people overinterpret a purely aesthetic work of artmany such casesThis recording of the piece in solo piano form by Poizat has the power to save the worldhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45XX9HpSgr0&list=OLAK5uy_mdmHBm9qK-Q0GYORmiuh_MNrP8I12XNnU&index=2
Who is this song ripping off? It sounds familiar, but I don't listen to a lot of classicalhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyfvU356YUo
Need some Ravel help. I'm looking for two albums: one of some piano works, and another with the orchestral versions of those same works. Would love any recommendations.
>>131714760https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgh68Swuak0
>>131716009Ravel is tricky because there's dozens and dozens of complete sets of his solo piano music, because there's only like a little bit over two hours of it, and a good amount of the sets are really good. So there's a lot of recommendations I could offer here. That said, I just spend my evening listening to pic, so that's what I'll recommend now.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqxhIl06SOs&list=OLAK5uy_mdmHBm9qK-Q0GYORmiuh_MNrP8I12XNnU&index=10You'll notice the set is 6 hours 40 minutes. It's like the most comprehensive sets out there lol. But if you don't want all the extra stuff, you can pretty much just stick to the first three/four discs and that's what most sets are, + the piano concertos. The later discs contain the chamber works and other stuff.As for orchestral, you can't go wrong with Martinon if you want the true French sound, or Abbado if you want something a bit more smoothed-out and Western.Martinonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WtxtSl06VM&list=OLAK5uy_lfupJM3r0IU9KeD10-9ETwnTMzll8sPC4&index=1Abbadohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ximfuozVJeE&list=OLAK5uy_kQW4i7Ep1OuD2M8H6YTgHKECbzhJz3M4w&index=1And lastly, if you want to go old school AND convenient, this popular Samson Francois/Andre Cluytens set contains both the solo piano and orchestral works under one set, and it's very good. It's from around the mid-20th century so won't have a modern sound but hey, maybe you prefer it this way.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghgedNZoFUo&list=OLAK5uy_nsMEnZTCJgn5hc1r0vOQ8YLkXKQMxR_sQ&index=1If you don't like Poizat's or Francois' Ravel, like I said, there's many more sets I could recommend, so let me know. Hope you enjoy!
