Progressive metal edition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1y5Stmvg83oWhat is Progressive Rock?>https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/progressive-rock/>>https://www.progarchives.com/Progressive-rock.asp#definitionGood albums to start with?>https://www.musicgenretree.org/essential_prog.pngObscure prog gems>https://rateyourmusic.com/list/antonbildern/a-secret-society-obscure-progressive-rock-albums/Old: >>131690717
>>131728833How do I into Animals as Leaders? They just sound plain awful to me, like three guys demoing guitars at the same time. Not as awful as Dream Theater at least
>>131728871>How do I into Animals as Leaders?You don't, they're pretty ass and this thread's off to a shitty start.
>>131728871It's two guys on guitar, with a drummer. I think they're all very good musicians. People have different tastes though. Since you asked "how do I into", here are some videos to get you started, if you're interested:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ZrF7taMHAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vrbt14uej08https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zETyL07_s0Some people say things like "it's just pretentious noodling without anything catchy". I like them personally, I think some of their stuff is catchy. Different strokes for different folks though.
Animals as sneeders lol
Fuckk you, I love AAL. In fact, they're one of the few progressive bands I really like.
>>131728833Why do Animals as Leaders still use backing tracks and clicks & shit for live performances?Whatever happened to bands just playing?Like they're professional-ass technically gifted musicians, so just fucking play your music. no guardrails
>>131728833N
>>131730623Narrates, negotiationsThese are words with an N this timeNonsense, negation, NuanceNotifyNI-
How do you guys feel about the King Crimson Elemental Mixes? I think most of the changes are nice but I don't like how so much drumming is removed.
>>131732187I never listen to different mixes of songs/albums. Whichever I download first is the one I listen to for life.
>>131730303Based>>131730504A lot of their songs have synths so I guess that's why they use backing tracks, and a click probably makes sense when they're playing such crazy time signatures
>>131732187I don't care about them at all.
>>131732187i don't like change. i'm only a couple minutes into formentera lady and i dislike how brazen the piano is. it's no longer unique and mysterious. it's now just a hodgepodge of instruments fighting each other.
>>131732187They're awful.>>131732371>>131733068Based.Also fuck Steven Wilson.
>>131732187Boomer bait
>>131732187Turning The Letters into an instrumental is unforgivable. It had some of Sinfield's best lyrics.
>1976 + 50>artists are still embarrassing themselves trying to distance their music from progressive rockI should start saving a collection of these in its own folder.
>>131732187I listened to the Lizard one and it was absolute garbage; its very existence as a real sanctioned release over some random Youtube upload on a channel with 10 subscribers was deeply concerning. Needless to say, I did not listen to any of the others.
>>131733469He has nothing to do with it
>>131733769That’s funny, it’s actually my favorite of the elemental mixes. Sorry if I just ruined your day.
>>131733728As someone who normally doesn't give two shits about lyrics, The Letters is one of a handful of songs with lyrics actually worth paying attention to. Fripp or Singleton must have a seething hatred for Sinfield and/or Burrell to cut the singing.
>>131733747they're trying to get pussy. nothing scares away women faster than prog.
>>131733728Even if all other singing was removed, you *need* IMPALED ON NAILS OF ICE. That with the little flute and drums is one of the most iconic parts of the album.
>>131733469steven wilson's aqualung is genuinely much better
Andy Edwards doesn't half talk bollocks
>>131728973the most amazing part of these guys is seeing so much effort and talent put into making something so boring, how is that even possible
>>131739952Idk, ask Queen
>>131739952Idk, ask ELP
>>131739952Idk, ask your mom
>>131739624>steven wilson's aqualungMeybe he should stop swimming
>>131739952idk, ask Genesis
>>131739952it's djent. this is what happens when you base an entire genre around one single technique, and not even a good one
>>131739111>nothing scares away women faster than progif that's a case why does every zeuhl (progressive prog) band have like 1-3 foids in their roster
>>131741276Name 5.
ANIMALS AS LEADERS FUCKING RULE
>>131741288magmaeskatonshub-niggurathkoenjihyakkeibondage fruitcorimazaoga'anle silosetnavakryorchestraaltaisapsarauniversal totem orchestraetnaliteral foid genre
>>131741276clearly zeuhl isn't prog.
>"neo"-prog
>>131741522Zeuhl is jazz fusion with funny vocals
>>131742996>not neo-"prog"are you retarded?
>>131743608This, zeuhl is much more jazz fusion than it is prog rock.
i want to say i think peter hammill is one of the best composers of the past century and is a top 5 poet of all time
>>131743608>Zeuhl is jazz fusion>>131743846>zeuhl is much more jazz fusionretarded take, besides magma most zeuhl bands don't have a jazz background, most of these zeuhl bands will cite other prog rock bands as influences before they cite stuff like coltraneand even then magma stopped pretending not to be a prog band by the mid-late 70s when they started using keyboards lol
>>131728973second video was the only tolerable thing I've ever heard from them
>>131744864Zao, for instance, is full of French avant-garde jazzers lol. I do consider zeuhl to be part of prog but there's definitely jazz and fusion in the mix. Not that interested in copycats that came later.
Bit of prog :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK60mnZPFj8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z8XLO1yXUS0
>once a man like the sea I raged
>>131728833Not sure if thread-appropriate, but you might like these bands:>Night Verseshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFz3kg4WMgI&pp=ygUMTmlnaHQgVmVyc2Vzhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK8ogOTQOb4&pp=ygUMTmlnaHQgVmVyc2Vz>Unsolicitedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nxwpffprLUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbbcMh69F8s
>>131751642Well this really is an Unsolicited recommendation
>>131751005rage rage against the dying of the thread
>>131751642this shit is so soulless i'd guess it's AI. but i'm not a big metal guy, so maybe it's great.
>I'm a Mac.>And I'm a PC.
Chris Squire isn't really that special, tonewise
>>131754183Who's Al?
>>131755790Al Lifeson
>>131754969Imagine beating both of them up and taking their wallets
>>131754969Peter won
Proggybumps
we are so back
>>131743744But what's worse, neo-"prog" or "prog" metal?
Well, /prog/?>>131746528
>>131728833What is his problem?
>>131730623Toyah really loosened that guy up. Her blow-jobs must be legendary.
>>131757257He came a distant second to Steve.
>>131757257>ran himself into debt doing whatever multicultural shit he was doing and had to call his old pals to bail him out
>>131761704He's a purist for Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac too. I feel sorry for anyone who can't vibe with DSOTM or Rumours.
>>131755647maybe not now, but for the time, yeah. very recognizable
>>131761704EC died years ago in my original universe
>>131761936>6 of the best (+ Tony)Ya and it was a good show
>>131762230He released a pretty great album like 5 years ago.
>>131762481I actually thought he was dead for a while though lol
>>131761836i don't know if turning someone into a cuck is loosening them up
>>131762089he doesn't have much tone now. he's been dead for a while
Well?
https://youtu.be/U-AMec7yr7c
>>131762931What do you mean
>>131761704
>>131761987Lol is he a The Magnificient Moodies diehard too
>>131728931Go jack off to I Can't Dance will ya?
>>131741333Never met a woman into this shit. Where does she exist? I need to know so I can put my penis into her.
>>131743846Then why is jazz fusion a separate category on progarchives?
>>131760036This joke has never been funny and reeks of desperation
>>131765222I can see where he's coming from despite liking The Smiths
>>131760356"prog" metal is worse. at least neo-"prog" isn't artificially edgy
>>131743744>>131760356Marillion Fish albums are great
>>131766286Dream Theater is probably the least edgy metal band in existence
>>131765274>tfw no 70s zeuhl gf
Why is Thick as a Brick considered a nonsensical joke album? The lyrics are pretty interesting, though abstract, and the music is greatAm I just a big dumb idiot with a gigantic cock that doesn't understand le media literate satire or something?
>>131766400It's not a nonsensical joke album. It's satire/a parody of prog but that doesn't mean that it isn't without substance. It's considered a joke album because Jethro Tull didn't like being associated with "prog" or called a "prog band" so they released an album that was supposed to be an overly bombastic, if not typical prog record as some kind of tongue in cheek gesture and people ended up unironically liking it.
>>131761704I think Huey has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humour
>>131744805>they are all of me>dictators, saviours, refugees What did he mean by this?
>>131728833band sucks
>>131739111Don't zoomer "music" women larp king crimson or whatever these days
I always thought this is what prog rock was:https://youtu.be/5k7ccAEaY0QAre there more bands like it? i have a friend that really likes flawed mangoes and she just lost a very close family member so i’m trying to get her music to help her feel better.
>>131765274Any woman who's into zeul is probably French at 70+ years old
>>131767350Still would
>>131761704elvis costello is one of those rare artists where i knew very young that it just wasn't worth giving him any time or attention, and the times i did, usually just by happenstance, have only confirmed that my instinct was right>>131766400>considered a nonsensical joke album?by who? no one. other guy explained it anyway.>>131767088early Bibio, susumu yokota, (tycho?) i have a specific electronica-ish album with guitars in mind but i'm not sure if it's one of those
>>131766965Maybe. I know I saw them in 2021 and the crowd was about as typical of a prog concert as you can imagine. 99% white. 95% male. 80% people born before 1970. 0% women without accompanying a man.
>>131770992ZASED
>>131765222he's not wrong
>>131728833andrey onana is in a band now?
get jiggy with itWOOOOO!
>>131732187I listened to the very first seconds of the Larks' mixes and decided it was already rubbish, didn't like the instrumentation or buildup. Simply can't go wrong with the originals.
>>131732187They’re mildly interesting novelties but don’t really have any relisten value at all.
i just can’t be bothered to give a fuck about odd time signatures I like apocalypse in 9/8 though, but they played that one with feel, not counting
My favorite dissodeath band: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uOHFoEHCkc
>>131775831I always thought 7/8 has a nice groove to it, I find myself writing with it a lot...
>>131775831I feel like the vast majority of songs are written because of what sounds good instead of trying to be special. But then I think about Discipline. And The Last Human Gateway by IQ where Mike said on the commentary he explicitly did a weird time signature for fun. And Lateralus is all about prime numbers and shit.
>>131779280>I feel like the vast majority of songs are written because of what sounds good instead of trying to be special.yes, those are the good ones/those that workand lol, your 3 examples of people doing it intentionally are all music i don't.>Disciplinenever got into 80s & later crimson, it's in the pile of 'i should give them a shot sometime' but never do (see Tool for pretty much same, coming up)>IQneo-prog... >Tooli actually have some already downloaded and they get a chance here & there on the work shuffle. The other day a song came up that ended with a big build-up and segway to the next track, so i went and listened to that one too. Now i remember neither the actual name or much of what happened in the song, just that it was the same name twice with an a - ah there we go, Parabol/Parabola. usually with Tool the music is fine but the singing is going for this radio-friendly emo style that i find just grating.
>>131779622>your 3 examples of people doing it intentionally are all music i don't.you say this and then admit you haven't listened to at least half of it
>>131779663yes? i also kept it to a vague and unspecified 'don't', open to be read in many ways, can be don't listen to, don't fuck with... or don't appreciate/understand, if you wanna go there.i'm shameless about it because i haven't heard nothing from them, they all had many chances at winning me over with music that would make me want to go and listen to more of them. For Tool i'm even making a conscious effort to try them more, cause seeing how loved they are by people who love them, i think obviously i gotta be missing something, but then when i do listen to them... meh, and meh all over again.Of the 3 IQ are easily the one i've listened less, and i didn't dislike a 20m+ song of theirs that was posted here once (as their suppers ready if i remember), but it wasn't enough to make me want to go listen to IQ albums. I do note that if i am to give some neoprog a more serious shot, eventually, they are up there in those that deserve a listen.This is all personal taste, of course, but i'm old enough that i think it's completely fair to judge and set aside some artists based on how consistently they failed to grab me when they've had plenty opportunities
>>131741333>>131765274>>131766394Don't know about the others, but the girl from Corima is super cute, too. We need to look into this
>>131765274Any woman that's into zheul is probably also into crystals, so watch out.
Three of a Perfect Pair > Beat > Discipline
Chat, is Enigma prog?
>>131783159this but the opposite
HEALTH FOOD FAGGOT
And fartered bride Likes to cope and seethe With a feed and seed
>>131783449only if it's endless
Louise, is the reverend hard to please?
>>131751005>once a woman like the earth i gave
Anyone else have an .mp3 library? Any suggestions what I should get next?Also bump :V
>>131789744Clrarly you should focus on filling the rest of the alphabet>Dixie Dregs>Focus>Hatfield and the North>Illusion>Lucifer's Friend>National Health>Queensryche>Renaissance>Univers Zero>Van der Graaf Generator>Wishbone Ash>Frank Zappa
What are some prog albums that are rocking and hypnotic, without going full schizomode like Magma and Van de Graaf? Every time I get into a groove with those guys they do some completely dissonant shit
>>131789944
>>131789929Actually started with renaissance already. I'm getting rest of ELP's discography now. Might get Van de Graaf next
What's up with that line>why did he kill 6 million jews
>>131790040Yeah. It's pretty obvious.
>>131790067Did Tarkus do it?
>>131790040Lake ate the 6 million
>>131790027>Actually started with renaissance already.Might as well get Illusion too, it's the original Renaissance members coming back under a new name, and the 70s albums are worth checking out
>>131761704>>131765222The only thing I know about him is that he appeared on The Simpsons.>>131763477The one that isn't an insuferable cunt.
>>131789744U.K.
>>131790176Ya.
>>131789944Ozric Tentacles
Greep is done/prog/ won
>>131792214What is bro yapping about?
>>131792214Greep is /prog/ tho
>>131794167lol no fuck off
>>131794484More than one thing can be /prog/
>>131795185No.
>>131792214The 1970s progfathers were banging underage groupies by the score and suffered no consequences, but the Greepster gets a little touchy feely with a drunk chick at a party and his career is finished.
Holy Shit
>>131796963Do you think magma would be cancelled today if it came out recently that stella had sex with a 16 year old band member when she was pushing 30 and christian was not only aware of it but was completely fine with it?
>>131797236I listened to the teaser track a few weeks ago and it was fucking atrocious. Worst remix I've heard since the 2019 mix of Chicago Transit Authority.
>>131797543This but the 2007 mix of Foxtrot
>>131797595At least that mix has some clarity and crispness, despite its changes. The CTA remix sounds like you're listening to it on a plane at 50k feet.
>>131728871that's what they are. don't feel forced to 'into' them just because their viral marketing is effective.
Why stop at 8 strings?
>>131797498Would you have sex with current Stella if it meant Christian watched and approved?
>>131797236I don't like that they buried the strings and horns. The band may not have liked it but it helped to fill out the basic tracks and it was very tastefully done anyway.
>>131797236The only song I like on that album is "In The Beginning". Should I give it another chance?
>>131799945For me it's The Serpent. But if you're going to give it another chance then find the mono version.
>>131765216Presumably he meant Toyah's tinfoil bra in the pic. Some people are just philistines.
>>131799945>>131799973 For me, it's "Where the Sour Turns to Sweet." 4/5 song that belongs on SEBTP
When did you realize Tony did nothing wrong and it was actually Mike who clashed with Steve Hackett?
>>1318002121977 when I saw it happen first hand
>>131800212where do people get insight into this? all i see are cryptic posts about so and so being in the wrong.
>>131802445It's all vibes. If you don't like so and so then they are the villain of the band and everything is their fault, and if you like so and so then they're the true heart and soul of the band and deserve credit for all their achievements.
>>131728833>/prog/ - Progressive Rock GeneralHONEST Question:Aren't "prog" and "progressive rock" different things?"can someone explain what Animals As Leaders and similar artists have to do with Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Saga, Genesis, Rush, Yes, King Crimson, et al?
AAL suck balls for a start
>>131800212When I read HACKetts biography
>>131802705Prog kept progressing, basically
>>131765033I love Saviour Machine (band) and for some reason never bothered checking out its namesake. Great stuff.
>>131802705They have long and technically complex songs
GIVE ME STEAM
>>131806993STAND BACK BROS...
>>131802880Is the biography any good?
is there any prog rock that fits the spooky/halloween season?
>>131809108https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeCqhykd7CI
>>131809108VDGG is kinda spooky
>>131809108Steven Wilson's whole career is spooky (bad).
>>131809108Orne
>>131809108Shub Niggurath for Lovecraft/cosmic horror themed prog.
>>131809108chewbular bells ya fukin wanker
>>131809108Yes
>>131809108Anglagardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mbRjdsiB68Comushttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFmqHiHMC1Q
>>131806993Him and Roger won
>>131810512Won what?
>>131810607The band sucking ass after they left award.
>>131811485First time I hear of it
would anyone be interested in an imageboard solely dedicated to progressive rock
>>131812476only if you call it Images and Words
>>131812485Nein! It will be based around Bill Bruford!!!
>>131812531>It will be basedI don't think so
>album of full of musical wankery ends with a four-part suiteIt's prog and it's KINO
>>131811485You're confusing Gabriel with Steve Hackett.
>>131809108Picrel is one of the most halloween-y albums ever, in any genre
>>131809108https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyu1WO0hRB0
>>131809108https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzKGGHCFnAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF36wJ1uMTwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oceVTSu0TBY
You fuckers didn't tell me Yessongs was the peak of music. Fuck you
>>131812476We can manage to have one thread reach bump limit every month or two. A whole board seems overkill
>>131812612artwork reminds me of a 90s scifi paperback
>>131813948banned author
>>131814401huh?
>>131814520/lit/sffg "meme"
>>131812476>>131812485Most clever thing I've seen in a long time. I don't even care if you samefagged it.
Anything similar to Tarkus? I loved it. Everything (((critics))) hated about it, is why I loved it. The ostentatious, over the top, bombastic playing, the sheer extravagance, the complete insanity of it, it was KINO
>>131728871For me, it was watching covers of them because their recorded stuff is just so overproduced that it lacks the necessary soul for me to enjoy it past appreciating the technical difficulty.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCJG8epidP8Also, as a drummer myself, the drum demos that Matt Garstka did, especially of their latest record, really turned me into a fan.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpFnbgqHmjQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqexpuWDQxIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKJ7pTs_SOE
>>131730504Most of their basslines are synths, since they refuse to get a bassist they just use backing tracks, not like they got to prove anything about playing real instruments live.
>>131755647>all the ni/gg/as praising Squire and saying shit like his Rick being re-painted white several times over has changed the wood which is why he sounds so magical>meanwhile you can get his tone with an eq pedal and a cheap ass jazz bass99% of magical signature tones are snake oil bullshit, ESPECIALLY nowadays where you can just NAM everything to death.
>>131761836she's always given me dommy mommy vibes while he reeks of cuck. I wouldn't be surprised if she made him watch while she got railed by young guys before he cleans it up. It's always couples who look exactly like these two who are doing shit like this on the internet.
>>131761836Fripp has always had a funny and whimsical side, he just used to be more socially awkward
Bozzio can't /prog/https://youtu.be/LcyNBhAUnvo
>>131728871>How do I into Animals as Leaders?know nothing about jazz>They just sound plain awful to mesounds like you know something about jazz
>>131818502Tool won
>>131810449How is First Utterance such a unique album? There's nothing that sounds quite like it.
