Post your main synth this instant
>>131797663you have one of those? that's wild
for me, it's tera-tan>b-but she's virtual
the vintage gear jew fears big based Uli
it was $7 at goodwill and it has MIDI
>>131797676Oh no, I use the vst
>>131797735What genres do you do with it?
mine is the MC-101 from Roland.
>inb4 not a synth
>>131801402honestly based. never gonna be obsolete. will probably outlive Elektron itself given they got private equity's recently
>>131797663Anyone who buys physical synths just hates money
Sequential Prophet 600 GliGli Mod
>>131803312buying physical is actually the most financially responsible thing to do. it provides redundancy so that you aren't entirely reliant on your computer, and places a limit on the ways in which the manufacturer of the synth can exploit their customers. because of piracy and the general pressures of capitalism, software companies are incentivized to behave in increasingly hostile ways toward the customer in ways that don't apply to hardware. with hardware, you buy the product once and it's yours to do with whatever you like until it physically breaks.you can even "buy" the iPad version of Logic at all, you can only subscribe to it. granted it's not much, it's $5/mo afaik, but that price can (and will) increase in the future and you'll have to accept those increases because you're already using it and you don't want to be locked out. there is no definitive point where you're finally done paying. if you decide to stop, you'll be locked out of your own project files.you're paying your computer on a monthly basis to not lock you out of access to the stuff you made with it. it's blackmail. shit is draconian. and it's not even particularly uncommon, this is just standard practice for how software synths work now. and this isn't even mentioning that with software there are other inconveniences, like needing to routinely connect to the internet to verify certificates, or repurchase the same product again even if it isn't subscription based.hardware synths are cheaper now than ever before. you can get a Volca FM 2 for like $100. it's literally an entire DX7 in a tiny battery powered box plus a sequencer and a couple fx. Roland's AIRA series is the same. you can get good shit now for cheap. there's no reason to no pick up at least one synthesizer.
>>131803784>$5whoops I just looked it up. it's no longer available standalone. it's $12.99/mo now. lmao. $129 a year just to not get locked out. my god
>>131803312Physical synths can make noises software literally cannot make at all.>erm ackshually blind studies prove you can't tell the difference betwe—I'm not talking about sound quality. I'm talking about the sounds themselves. There are things that can only be achieved with hardware synths that cannot be achieved with software, the same way there are things you can do in software that can't be done in hardware. Also relying on a laptop for everything just sucks ass lmao. That shit is not fun at all. Hardware is instant, it's reactive, it's an instrument. You can pick it up and just start playing like with a guitar. Imagine having to boot up your desktop and sit through the Ableton splash screen whenever you want to just play around real quick.
SH01A with the addon keyboard (before the Behringer clone came out).I bought it to learn how to use a synth because I was just randomly nob twiddling on VSTIs. No regrets, it worked, recommend it to anyone (probably get the Behringer now tho).
>>131803873>I'm talking about the sounds themselves. There are things that can only be achieved with hardware synths that cannot be achieved with softwareI've been programming software and hardware synths for decades. it's nonsense. it's not 1982 anymore. I know you spent $50k on hardware and produce nothing but fart noises but you could at least attempt to learn something and not be a fucking retard lol>Hardware is instant, it's reactive, it's an instrument.most hardware synths (including purely analog stuff for some reason), drum machines/samplers over last 2 decades more than likely running some kind of low latency linux os with a vastly slower CPU than your 10yo android phone and connected up to a dac that's probably as good as what's in your laptop or phone. you have no idea just how shit and mediocre music tech has become and how little you get for your money. really expensive shit produced by yamaha and roland contain multiple (and massive) fpga chips, with multiple ARM cores+RAM per chip, to run the entire show. the power is in the custom chips. thankfully pc tech has advanced so rapidly that's it's probably possible to emulate yamaha or roland's flagship products with VST/CLAP plugins and nobody would know the difference.
>>131803784>you aren't entirely reliant on your computerThis is the reason I like hardware. I have literally zero willpower so if you put me in front of a computer I won't make any music I'll just procrastinate on the internet all day.
>>131805766>I've been programming software and hardware synths for decades. it's nonsense. it's not 1982 anymore.Either you're lying, you're really bad at your job, or you aren't super into synths and aren't aware of the more obscure ones that rely on mechanics that can't be emulated on PC because you're stuck thinking of like popular analog synths from a couple decades ago. It's one or more of those things.>most hardware synths (including purely analog stuff for some reason), drum machines/samplers over last 2 decades more than likely running some kind of low latency linux os with a vastly slower CPU than your 10yo android phone and connected up to a dac that's probably as good as what's in your laptop or phone.I'm not talking about CPU power, I'm talking about form. Even a piece of shit like the KO II for example is fun to use because it boots in like 5ms and is less clunky to use than having to navigate an OS meant to handle much more than just music making as core tasks. The fundamental problem with using only a MacBook is that it's a MacBook. It's not designed for music. You can make music on it, but it's not designed FOR music, from the ground up. It's an interface issue.
Modular and programmable, it's what I'm familiar with and does everything I need it to.
>>131801402was thinking of getting it, but even mk1 is expensive nowadays. also, i often miss CTRL+all from digitakt, does model samples have that?
>>131797663Synths are too track-specific to have a main one.
>>131810356there's actually quite a few synths that are so versatile you could use them for just about anything, from percussion to bass to leads to pads to whatever else you want
>>131803873Yeahz, this reminds me of how I used to use the QuickTime settings in GarageBand to blast the ever living crap out of my ears.
A real post
>>131811175>cheap junklol
Berio was right about synths.
I have a DSI Prophet '08, Vermona Mono Lancet, Elektron Analog RYTM, Make Noise 0-Coast & Strega, Pittsburgh Modular Microvolt 3900 and a relatively small complimentary modular setup.
>>131811545How much do you think those synths cost
>>131797663
>>131812613none of them are worth owning, it doesn't matter how much you overpaid for them
>>131813932I like em
>>131813932>baitposting this hard over synthesizers of all thingsanon are you bored?
>tfw found a refurbished Fairlight CMI for only 60 000 dollars>don't have the money so I sell my car>Realize I don't have any chord punchcardsHow am I supposed to make music with this piece of junk?
>nektar se61 and mellotron vsts
>>131811175I loved my sk20 but it weighed like a fucking tank part
>makes sound that has been made before at some point by someone else who owned the same synthesizer>does it again and again>This instrument gives me limitless creativityAll synth and VST users are coping with the fact that they're too retarded to use SC, Pd, or Max.
>>131815734Also people who play guitars are coping with the fact they are too retarded for lutherie.
>>131815767synthesis is synthesis, if you want 1 sound learn to play the piano tard
>>131815734You're a bitter nerd that doesn't even know how music gets into people's brains. Novelty isn't musical. Familiarity is.
>>131816758cry more retard, not my fault you were dropped on your head as a child and can't handle basic mental work
>>131811545>>131813932Daily reminded that you are the worst guy here.
>>131814848it's a bunch of facebook marketplace budget shit and none of it is impressive. stop seething, sell them, and then go buy something decent instead
>>131816835Kek you sound mad. Better go back to coding nonsensical bleep blops in super collider.
>>131816978No one gives a shit what you think about anything.
>>131817076sounds like cope from someone who works two jobs to pay for boxes with knobs on them
>>131797735based same i only use virtual sythsthat i play with my 88 key foldable glarry that costed me less than 90$
>>131817133halfbased you could have coded that
>>131797663Anyone who buys software synths just hates money
>>131817113>literal n-no uKek
>>131817199>spend 1000$ on chudbox>mean man on internet says mean thing about chudbox>argue with mean man all day instead of playing with chudboxlike autism you can buy
>>131815734Audacity + Ardour + Polyphone.https://voca.ro/18mHBa9czE9b
I would love to hear the music you guys are making with both your hardware and software. Post some vocaroos.
>>131815734>makes sound that has been made before at some point by someone else who owned the sameimmediately proved you don't know much about synthesizers. many of them are extreme versatile and will not sound alike at all in the hands of different users. those knobs and sliders and switches and buttons you see aren't just decoration. you can push a synthesizer to the point of being unrecognizable between tracks depending on which one you're talking about.>All synth and VST users are coping with the fact that they're too retarded to use SC, Pd, or Max.doubly retarded. "dude just program your own synth from the ground up instead of just using one that already exists" is this nigga seriousalso some synths straight up can't be done in software, particularly those that rely on physics as a kind of timbral variable. landscape noon, motor synth and phase8 for example. the best you could do in software is use randomness in some parameters but it won't sound the same.
>>131818734bet you dont even have 15 spotify listeners lol
>>131815734digital literally has a finite number of possible configurations, analog synths are limitless
>>131817043>budget shit>yamaha sk20>$2500lmao. if any of it is cheap, you'll say it's garbage worthless toys and if any of it expensive you'll say it's garbage overpriced toys, not worth buying either way. meanwhile you'll pay a monthly bill for 1s and 0s you download to your computer and I'm supposed to take you seriously. lol.>you VILL make an account>you VILL connect to the internet>you VILL subscribe to the premium version to unlock all features>you VILL kill yourself when your computer crashes
>>131818790>ugh this 0.00001 degree change will finally award me my eternal fameLol
>>131817182>literal spaghetti code why on earth anyone uses pd or max is beyond me. just write code the way you'd write anything else wtf. why are you playing connect the dots. this isn't even really easy to follow visually.
>>131818796>monthly bill for 1s and 0sYoho no ho
>>131818753correct. i have released 5 full length records and none of them will ever see spotify because i am fundamentally against streaming in general and will never allow my music to be distributed through those channels. you are cattle.
>>131818840how many bandcamp sales have you got so far
>watching gearfags argue with dawfags as if any of this shit matters at all and they're both not going to go extinct soonSuno CHADS stay winning
>>131817222Another no u? Do you have an actual argument?
>>131818851i only distribute my music via free thumb drives i hide in public locations that can only be found through a series of increasingly complex puzzles and that's not a joke.
>>131818889are you polish
>>131818927I'm american
>>131818889i would never plug in a random USB in my shit. you can put whatever you want on there
>>131818949sometimes i also use cassette tapes but that's less common and that's more often for puzzle trailheads and whatnot
>>131818658https://voca.ro/19IfatpkPFJ8>>131818734"But muh versatility" maybe if you're running an ems synthi or a buchla wall you're possibly working with almost the same amount of possibilities at your fingertips that you have upon opening a new file in any audio programming language. Also do you think I'm retarded, of course I know those knobs do something, but there are hard limits when your synthesizer has a set number of oscillators and modulation options. That doesn't even begin to address the fact that there are synthesis techniques that have no good hardware options (physical modeling, pulsar, fractal wavefolding, the list goes on). Even for synths that use physical properties, I'd rather spend an hour programming a 99% accurate physical model than a minimum 700$ (for the synths you mentioned) to have one physical process.I see programming the same way other people might set up presets on a hardware synthesizer, only programming languages are far less clunky than most hardware that offers any kind of preset saving (looking at you waldof). I'd rather pay 0$ for infinite synthesizers that I have millisecond precision control over and can configure any way I want, than pay any amount of money for a solution that offers me less than that.>>131818790At least the last guy wasn't an absolute retard, the digital vs anal-log audio debate has been solved, digital sounds the fucking same, you're either a midwit, or purposely not understanding the argument that every other midwit on this board has no trouble understanding. Shoot yourself in the face
>>131818812That's like a quarter of the code, sadly I'm not quite smart enough for SC yet
>>131818965Damn that sucks lolWhat a retarded idea
>>131818975>"But muh versatility" maybe if you're running an ems synthi or a buchla wall you're possibly working with almost the same amount of possibilities at your fingertips that you have upon opening a new file in any audio programming language.if you don't think the notion that synthesizers have no versatility is true, you shouldn't have implied that with your last post.i'm not anti-computer. i use supercollider all the time. I use VSTs all the time. I use analog synths all the time. I use everything because I don't want to rely entirely on anything. you keep telling me i should sell my synths and use only my computer but can never provide a solid reason as to why.>Also do you think I'm retarded, yeah>of course I know those knobs do something, but there are hard limits when your synthesizer has a set number of oscillators and modulation options.software also has hard limitations that dedicated hardware doesn't always have to have.>That doesn't even begin to address the fact that there are synthesis techniques that have no good hardware options (physical modeling, pulsar, fractal wavefolding, the list goes on).the same is true vice versa. this is why i use everything and pledge allegiance to nothing.>I'd rather spend an hour programming a 99% accurate physical modellmao spoken like a true freetard. erm i'd rather just spend 6 weeks building a vhs degradation emulator from scratch and get 80% of the way there than simply buy a vcr off eBay because...b-because...the future!!!>programming languages are far less clunky learning supercollider is way harder, less convenient and less instantly rewarding than playing a synthesizer anon>I'd rather pay 0$ for infinite synthesizers that I have millisecond precision control over and can configure any way I want, than pay any amount of money for a solution that offers me less than that.ok. I can do both, so i'm gonna do both lol
>>131819024people like it [shrugging emoji]
>>131819097i mean that's a given. i'd make myself like something if i had to solve a riddle, puzzle whatever for it
>>131797663I have pic rel and a Digitakt, the XD can do some really nice sounds but sounds weak in poly mode and the sequencer isn't amazing. I've sampled it into the Digi a bunch for techno jams I do for fun sometimes because the Digi is just so fun to use>>131818889Unironically based
>>131819111doubt it 2bh. if you're not interested, you'd simply stop engaging. it's not like you're being paid for this anyway.
>>131818975>I only use software synths because they're LIMITLESS! >ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES ABOUND>"OK cool, what does your music sound like?">https://voca.ro/19IfatpkPFJ8
>>131818975>physical modeling, pulsar, fractal wavefolding, the list goes onto sound like this:>https://voca.ro/19IfatpkPFJ8I can get better sounds by banging kitchenware
>dump your dumb ass vintage synths and get with the future, old manthe future:https://youtube.com/watch?v=gjREyGgR2yg
>>131818975I can't believe what I'm hearing (derogatory.)
>>131818975NIGGER DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH NERVE IS REQUIRED TO TELL PEOPLE TO SHOOT THEMSELVES IN THE FACE AND THEN LINK TO THAT BULLSHIT YOU MADE IN THE SAME POST???
are you guys not realizing he's fucking with you?
>>131819256flattered honestly this is heat
>>131819352>I was only PRETENDING to be retarded!nah that kid 100% believed he was doing some kind of Eno-inspired generative drone thing and thought it sounded cool before he showed it to anyone
>>131819428im not him, i just cant buy anything like that being remotely serious. i could be wrong ionno
>>131819428I hate eno I would skullfuck him at a moment's notice>i don't enjoy this guy's music>therefore his opinion is invalidyou're retarded and you should kill youself. FAST!
>>131819449nigga your music is tutorial-level trash that does not at all justify your arrogance lmao
>>131819484You're a faggot shilling physical synths don't fucking talk to me
>>131818796>the most basic ass analog synth that makes sounds any $200 Behringer clone could >$2500 because muh vintageHe's right, it's overpriced shit that doesn't do anything unique that justifies the ridiculous price. Fuck off.
>>131819499if shilling hardware is stopping people from making music like whatever the fuck you just posted then I'm doing the lords work>>131819590>"hardware is overpriced">proceeds to list a viable hardware alternative that isn'tlmao
>>131819590You can get a fully Dexed-compatible FM synth from M-Wave for $67. People are building all kinds of insane firmwares for it, giving it fairly powerful and FX for free. If you can't afford that that's a (You) problem.
>>131819694he didn't say all hardware was overpriced, esl. he said that shitty vintage yamaha is overpriced for the features you get which is true
>>131819694You should have been an abortion
>>131819757then what's the relevance to hardware as a broader category?>>131819758ykw i agree actually, if i were aborted i wouldn't have had to hear your shit music
>>131819758
>>131819758>come into a thread about synths>shit on everybody that uses them for no reason>they're not very kind to you in return>>surprised_pikachu.webp.jpg
>>131819868GO SUCK HARROLD"S COCK
>>131819437>he was serious
how many of you are also on gearslutz?is that an entirely different demographic?
>>131820072probably an entirely different demographic. good forum though
