>voted right wing>discography is themed around nazi imagery>looks like the chud meme>still worshipped by the most hysterically leftist of hipsters to this dayHow did he gey away with it?
>>131832108because he likes holding guys hands
>>131832108Vibes I guess.See also: Type O Negative
no idea who this is.Suded?
>>131832127Yes he suded in 1980
>>131832127then maybe you should come back once you're 16
>>131832108He's just like them frfr
>>131832166Suicide is a male thing, not a troon thing.
>>131832477MtF troons are males so it checks out.
If you make iconic enough music and aren’t constantly flapping your mouth, most people won’t mind you. Obviously, as long as your “problematic” beliefs don’t verge on genocidal.
In the 70s and 80s nazis were icons of decadent self-indulgence. They were (correctly) seen as Sadists in the orthodox sense of the word: self-indulgent creepazoids who used politics as an excuse to have fun, and whose sexual fantasies involved political control. This is what Sade was all about. Ideology as an extention of BDSM roleplay, not the other way around. This was the heyday of Nazisploitation, after all.This naturally appeals to edgy teens of all stripes, including leftoids, even if they don't understand why. Joy Division was just one way to explore this.
>>131833139>SadeWhat? When were they ever into Nazi stuff?
>>131833180I'm not good at improve, sorry, so just in case you're actually being retarded I'm talking about Donatien Alphonse François de Sade
>>131833180https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_de_SadePretty sure he means this guy. Where the term sadist came from
>>131832108>How did he gey away with it?they just can't afford to lose him and give him back to us.it would be like losing the cool factor forever, they would rather hang themselves.
>>131833317This is the music board, not your random ex-soviet shithole country's history board. I'm gonna assume you're talking about music if you don't elaborate.
>>131833403France is a CURRENT soviet shithole country, sir.
>>131832108Was he really a chud? It's not unusual for leftists to appropriate Nazi imagery or vote for a right-wing party out of contrarianism or spite.
>>131832108horseshoe theory
>>131833550Never mind, I looked it up and it's apparent he admired Thatcher and voted Tory consistently. So clearly right-wing.Makes me wonder: what's the left-wing equivalent? That is, a firmly progressive artist with a cult following among trads. Lana Del Rey?
>>131833139>we fascists are the true anarchists
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>>131833884The point is that deep down they're all gooners
>>131833446Kek
>>131833446Islam would be illegal under state atheism.
>>131832477/mu/mblr moment
>>131833834Roger Waters
>>131832108>Was also friends with Genesis and Fanny from Throbbing GristleHe was a nuanced weirdo like most old 4channers were.
>>131832477anon...
>>131832125Wdym? Was he right wing?
>>131832108race and culture wars are for the lower caste
>>131833180Smooth Operator is about Hitler. So is Your Love is King (Furher).
>>131832108Nazi imagery in that scene and time was mostly seen as shock imagery and it seemed like it was understood by most.
>>131833139Good post
>>131838279>Sumner and Hook formed the band after attending a June 1976 Sex Pistols concert
>>131833139this anon knows. OP is just a terminally online zoomer who doesnt know anything about history.
>>131833834>Never mind, I looked it up and it's apparent he admired Thatcher and voted Tory consistently. So clearly right-wing.So he wasn't even a chud larping as a nazi revolutionary. He was a reactionary. Which is weird when you're poor.
>>131838556maybe the nazi imagery doesn't even come from him in particular but from other members.you can hardly find a name more agressively far-right than "new order", even as a joke.
>>131832108he was mainly admired by tumblrina millennials who didnt really care about the politics rather than the emotional aesthetic of the artist.
>zoomers think joy division was rightoid this has to be their most retarded take yet lol.https://youtu.be/D06ZivsDJmcjews are feeding these kids lead.
>>131832108>discography is themed around nazi imageryHow does that apply to unknown pleasures or closer
>>131836937Peter Steele? Yeah probably. He had expressed right wing views on an interview with Charlie Steffens on knac.com and he reverted to Catholicism later in life after apostatizing for some years.
