Medtner editionhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHmQGsbqNdsThis thread is for the discussion of music in the Western (European) classical tradition, as well as classical instrument-playing.>How do I get into classical?This link has resources including audio courses, textbooks and selections of recordings to help you start to understand and appreciate classical music:https://rentry.org/classicalgenpreviously, on /classical/: >>131838884
>AI solved quasi-Riemann hypothesisIt's over, AI is already capable of shitting all over classical music. It's just not bechmark maxxed in composition yet.
>>131855127wrong Riemann
Hey /classical/, Richard Wagner here. Just wanted to thank everyone for your support. Peace and love.
Hold up, Liszt was cooking?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3okh8Y7sD10
>>131855103Rach looks especially cute in that picture :3
1. Scriabin2. Debussy3. Scarlatti4. Ravel5. Rameau6. Seixas7. Liszt8. Chabrier9. Macdowell10. CouperinHonorable mentions: Grieg, Satie, Jongen, AlbenizMy favorite keyboard composers. if you disagree with this you probably are a basic bitch pleb that doesn't go beyond Chopin or Beethoven
https://vocaroo.com/19WyvtLVCEFRdoes anyone recognize this piece?
>>131855773I literally image searched your pic and got the answer:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSum_TvbE98Grieg has hundreds of these, ain't no way anyone here recognizing a random 1 minute waltz, if that's what you were trying.
>>131855773Grieg Op 34 number 7.
>>131856542I recognized it. we appreciate Grieg's excellent music around these parts.
>>131856548>>131856566Impressive. I love Grieg too, he just has too much stuff.
>>131855640>no HandelAbsolute brainlet
>>131856590I suppose that wouldn't be very contrarian of him.
>>131856590fptgiu. another piano piece of his you might enjoy is the watchman's song op 12 number 3. the extended harmonies are so beautiful and well placed.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYzZVOY2FT4
>>131856619meant for >>131856579
>>131855519
>>131856619>>131856628Thanks for the rec.
>>131855640Rachbros...
>>131856706he also put Seixas above greats like Liszt and Grieg. what an absolute dogshit list from a poster who ought to be range banned.
>>131855640Beethoven mogs all of them, but you're probably too young to understand. Maybe someday.
>>131856542>>131856548thank you
Anybody else just skip 2nd movements?They're never (never) good.
>>131854352Trifles. But hey I recently started to like his earlier string quartets so who knows, maybe I should revisit those too, I might come around.
>>131857120but Beethoven’s 2nd movements are consistently great!
>>131857287name one (1).
>>131857120https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8rTgYCxDiw&list=OLAK5uy_n8YrE-xYCPlbgHhmBV55Bd8EmCSD6Bk24&index=6https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dm3pqQdeZTU&list=OLAK5uy_n8YrE-xYCPlbgHhmBV55Bd8EmCSD6Bk24&index=10https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwekU9oFgl0&list=OLAK5uy_n8YrE-xYCPlbgHhmBV55Bd8EmCSD6Bk24&index=14you have been converted
>>1318572872nd movement of thr 7th2nd movement of the 9th
>>131857120Yeah
>>131857120I skip finales by falling sleep, walking out, or browsing my phone.
>>131857311>(1)Well yes, obviously the first symphony — good call. there’s also the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th as wellBut also
>>131857475I’m retarded because there’s no “but also”
>>131857316>Kubelik Viennahaven't seen this mentioned before in best Brahms cycles lists. is it good?
>>131857475This is correct
>>131857493In my opinion, it's good, not great.
>>131857316Ok you win. Forgot about these ones especially 2.
Sibelius on the wrong notes
Where to start with Alfred Schnittke?
>>131858107Segerstam's symphony cycle, violin concertos, string quartets, the list goes on...
>>131858105thank you for sharing your opinion but unfortunately you are completely retarded and tone-deaf.
Wagner and I will not just see eye to eye and not just because he's dead
>>131858339is that a height joke?
Is this /classical/?https://youtu.be/QK8mJJJvaes
I can't believe how dull this Rattle/BPO Sibelius set is. The real insidious part is it's so dull that it tricks me into replaying it over and over because my brain keeps going "anon, you love Sibelius, you cannot be this bored and cold listening to his symphonies, especially by a world-class conductor and orchestra pairing; surely you must be missing something or just weren't paying attention" so I replay the movement or symphony and then the cycle repeats
>>131858339Wagner is the apex.Wagner is the be all and end all.Wagner is the creator.Wagner is the destroyer.Wagner is the end.Wagner is the finale.Wagner is the greatest.Wagner is the holy grail.Wagner is the infinity.Wagner is the judge.Wagner is the king of kings and lord of lords.Wagner is the light.Wagner is the message.Wagner is the nexus of the universe.Wagner is the overman.Wagner is the peak.Wagner is the answer to Ives unanswered question.Wagner is the revelation.Wagner is the sign.Wagner is the truth.Wagner is the upper limit.Wagner is the victor.Wagner is the will.Wagner is the x-factor.Wagner is the yin and yang.Wagner is the zenith.
>>131858563This is anticlassical
now playingstart of JS Bach: Unaccompanied Cello Suite No. 1 in G major, BWV 1007https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dknsjCAxzs&list=OLAK5uy_kx3DZ6PI4pgLTGpuv0FcVThQuyJN6QJcI&index=2start of JS Bach: Unaccompanied Cello Suite No. 2 in D Minor, BWV 1008https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhqLD3EjFak&list=OLAK5uy_kx3DZ6PI4pgLTGpuv0FcVThQuyJN6QJcI&index=8start of JS Bach: Unaccompanied Cello Suite No. 3 in C Major, BWV 1009https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9JiIe3ETlQ&list=OLAK5uy_kx3DZ6PI4pgLTGpuv0FcVThQuyJN6QJcI&index=13https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kx3DZ6PI4pgLTGpuv0FcVThQuyJN6QJcI
I like how in TV shows, when the American characters meet up with some kind of stodgy, professional Chinese people, if there's music playing the background, it's almost always Bach, and about half of those times the cello suites.
>>131858721northeast asians try very hard to be a culturally educated and model minority unlike certain other groups *cough* blacks, indians, and arabs *cough*.
>>131858774Haven't you heard? The indigenous folk music of Africa, India, and the Arabic world are just as good as Western classical music. Superior, even, because it doesn't have the moral baggage of colonialism.
>>131858587me but with Rattle's Mahler
>>131858838Probably less boring than Bach's Cello Suites I reckon
Wagner is the nadir of western culture
>>131858477No I don't like Opera and I think he should have stuck with things like Siegfried Idyll and his preludes. I think he could have made tone poems or something
>>131858587>Rattlewell there’s your problem
>>131855103Listened to Double Concerto Suite for violin, cello, and orchestra by Carlos Simon today. Nelsons/BSO with Hilary Hahn and Seth Parker Woods as soloists. I was originally somewhat afraid - they put Tchaikovsky before and after this piece, and BSO usually does this for the most egregious of their new repertoire.However, based on the advice from this thread, I listened to several other compositions by Simon, and they are quite melodic. This concert was not an exception; it was pleasant to listen to. Program and composer in pre-concert talk (it actually happened after the first piece of the evening was played - so not sure how to call it - introduction?) touted the Concerto as a Baroque homage, with Bach's cello suites, sonatas and partitas for violin as specific references for movements 1-3 and Delta Blues for movement 4. To be honest, I found Baroque inspiration subtle and even lacking. There were a few parts that kinda sounded like it, but it was brief and overall very easy to miss. But nothing there sounded like a Baroque concerto.The strongest reference I heard was from Walton's Cello Concerto (maybe, I'll listen again on Saturday to check my memory). It was in movement 3 (possibly 4) and sounded very similar to opening Cello chords from Walton's Cello Concerto, only played by both cello and violin soloists. Best part of the piece.https://youtu.be/FVO_CevHNnM?t=14
>>131859174(cont)Hilary Hahn - presumably back in top form but to be honest for a concerto commissioned and written specifically for her none of her particular talents were utilized. It looked and sounded fairly easy to play (as much as word "easy" can be applied to a soloist in a concerto). There were a few challenging moments but I don't think it really showcased her talents. She completely overwhelmed cello soloist through; I barely heard any cello at all. Most of the time soloists were playing together and only violin was heard. Seth Parker Woods - not much to say, see above.There was no encore. What's customary for encore with multiple soloists present? Do they agree to play something beforehand together? Or go one after another? Program https://www.bso.org/works/simon-double-concerto-suite-for-violin-and-celloSaturday October 17th 8PM EDT broadcast: https://www.classicalwcrb.org/show/the-boston-symphony-orchestra
>>131859030this is the greatest Mahler 9 of all-timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwujUBojeSk&list=OLAK5uy_lLmxm7e4gT5wSgM0uoTWLz3_l85zasX28&index=1
>>131859174>>131859187Very cool. Never heard of that cellist before.
I am listening to Sibelius's piano sonata!
>>131859459pretty good. I wonder why he's not known for any of his piano music.
Ive been writing music for the pipe organ but I don't have any way to actually go out and play/record on one.
https://youtu.be/fcChI6gWa5Mhttps://youtu.be/loKu_APkKQY
Alexander Scriabin: The Complete Piano Sonatashttps://youtu.be/h6_pMgWXwpI
>>131856957Chopin mogs Beethoven's piano music, but you're obviously too young to understand. Maybe someday.
>>131860060do you live in America?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRfnVeGtxqE
>>131859249If you like eating shit, maybe.
why the FUCK did the slow ass morgue style Mahler 9th catch on so much? Been listening to the 1938 Walter and it's so much better than modern interpretations
>>131860719Blame Bernstein. He started it. Though in general interpretation of all music slowed down after WWII. Post-war conductors are slow animals.
>>131860719Well, the first movement is reminiscent of morgue, the second theme specifically. Walter's 38 Vienna is indeed the single best version. Walter 61 is decent but everything rest is not even worth mentioning.
>>131860719From La Grange's biography>At the end of this movement, Mahler wrote in the fair copy of the score: 20 to 23 minutes. But this marking cannot be taken seriously for he never conducted or rehearsed the work—he only played it on the piano.
>>131860870I recently did a complete discography listen. As in listened to literally every recording, even obscure live ones only available on blogs or forums. So here's my unsolicited opinions: Rosbaud, Walter (1938), and Chailly (2) were my main favorites. Mitropoulos was good too but too many lapses in the orchestra prevent it from being recommendable. Kondrashin's are both quite good interpretively but the orchestra is furthest from an idiomatic Mahler sound as one can be. Maderna has an interesting and quite demented interpretation but he unfortunately labors the first movement a bit too much. Gielen has a live Cincinnati performance which is quite a bit better than his two official ones, but the acoustic is very dry. Of course, Walter's Vienna one is the most idiomatic and old school, and there's lots to love there. I even remastered it to fix the awful dynamics (laughably some sections marked piano are about as loud as the forte tuttis), but it undeniably has a lot of mistakes, especially in the third movement. Rosbaud is less idiomatic but just as convincing for me and the orchestra is far more practiced. Chailly remains the only truly tolerable modern recording with all around sensible tempo choices.Other than that, the rest aren't even worth mentioning. What amazed me about my discography listen is how many recordings were so samey and homogenous. Especially in the past twenty years the approach to Mahler has just completely become static beyond belief.
>>131860932It's amazing how many horrible decisions of interpretation are made in complete arrogance with statements of, "oh, no, the composer couldn't have known that it would have sounded like this, I know better than him!"Friendly reminder that the famous Adagietto should only be about 7 minutes long too.
>>131860990Yeah I'm all for interpretative liberty but that's some really lousy reasoning. I'm sure one of the great conductors/composers of his time was capable of using his mind's ear to more or less guess what it would've sounded like.
>>131855640Giga based
>>131860222>Midtri AlexeevCome on...
>>131860979Thanks. Listening to the Rosbaud now and I'm liking it
>>131860979What do you think about the Ancerl recording Hurwitz really loves?
>>131860719>>131860979You guys don't think it says something that Walter himself significantly slowed down in this later recording with Columbia?
It never ceases to amaze me how my brain switches up my taste. Last week, I couldn't get enough of Beethoven and Liszt, whereas I could not listen to Bach for more than a minute without wanting to change it. Today, it was switched. I am in love with the Well-Tempered Clavier once again.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMnNPpOJv0c&list=OLAK5uy_lPqcojDCOBz9BtLGP3jYvk5H9JmVGIu74&index=33So good!
Telemannhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIFDpR93Q-0&list=OLAK5uy_koCn6M7Cv2tPmExN6h4qkRQ_ByAg8WUpM&index=1
Just heard Roussel's Serenade -- holy shit, what a work!! What else of his should I hear?>>131860979Is Chailly (2) the one with Concertgebouw, from that black box of his? Because it's deathly slow to me, even if very beautiful and expressive. I haven't heard all the ones you have, but I quite like Jurowski's recent LPO recording. He does a real mean Rondo-Burleske.
>>131862512says only that he was getting senile
>>131862659no, Chailly 2 is only live
>>131862659>Just heard Roussel's Serenade -- holy shit, what a work!! What else of his should I hear?His symphonies. Piano Concerto. Bacchus And Ariadne. Chamber music.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-Tp7uGw2hs&list=OLAK5uy_k-y3qnILJRZj_jb4800yWm4vDfQlOMFao&index=15https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baBXOosRW8k&list=OLAK5uy_nz0sgaNqpiSZKhiG0JreXnzbHSJkhCpPk&index=9https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZV-F3QAL44&list=OLAK5uy_k-y3qnILJRZj_jb4800yWm4vDfQlOMFao&index=12https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aw21GMHbknU&list=OLAK5uy_m8LwZ8YE5NSNyi1VfHHyOr8BQR-Wa6nWw&index=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73c2Jv_T2tw&list=OLAK5uy_mgAHVPvOmAsd6YcOBAUpQe7JPDFpMhQ40&index=1Enjoy!
>>131862677sorry, meant only video. It has no audio CD release
>>131862659That's Chailly one. Chailly/RCO and then Chailly/Gewandhaus.https://files.catbox.moe/8f85ka.flacHell. Yes.
now playingstart of Shostakovich: Symphony No. 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOkaGTcfGfM&list=OLAK5uy_kQLc7GV4aJya8zU4WTN7qyAsyW0mDZ5uY&index=2start of Shostakovich: Symphony No. 3, "The First of May"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLk7lbCKXyQ&list=OLAK5uy_kQLc7GV4aJya8zU4WTN7qyAsyW0mDZ5uY&index=5https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kQLc7GV4aJya8zU4WTN7qyAsyW0mDZ5uY>Vasily Petrenko’s take on the First Symphony is swift and youthful, as befits this precocious early work. In the first movement he doesn’t wring every drop of sardonic humor from the music, and in the march-like climaxes the principal trumpet gets lost in the shuffle, but the music has an unusual degree of continuity. The scherzo is brilliant, the slow movement expressive but unsentimental, exactly as it should be. And the finale seldom has sounded better, with the orchestra’s strings really doing themselves proud in the coda. Like all of the releases in this series so far, this is world-class.>The same observations apply to the Third Symphony. No one especially likes this piece, which is at once gaudy and angular, with a noisy socialist-realist final chorus about the joys of industrialization and the like. It’s difficult to take seriously, but even so there’s enormous craft in the writing, and some curiously memorable moments (the “Beethoven’s Ninth on acid” orchestral recitative before the entry of the chorus, for example). The sonics are a touch dry but suit the music well, and the chorus sings with enthusiasm and probably more polish than its music deserves. Buy with confidence. ---- David Hurwitz, ClassicsToday, Rating: 9; 9
Anyone know where to find Sjostakovitj's waltzes played on piano? Not Waltz no. 2, but the other ones? Especially Waltz no. 4. I've been looking and looking but they seem to be non-existent.
>>131860719I generally prefer Klemperer over Walter, but Walter's 1938 recording is top-tier>>131860979imo any recording of Mahler that doesn't have the intended "German" seating of the orchestra should be immediately tossed in the trash>>131862568great choice, I'll be listening to this today as well
>>131861496Yeah it's one of the few that actually gives me no complaints at all tempo wise. And they must have had a lot of rehearsal time since even though it was their first time performing it publicly, they are quite composed. Rosbaud incidentally also has one of the only 5ths I can stand (along with Walter).>>131862501Other than some nice balance moments with the winds and horns, especially in the inner movements, I don't hear anything special about it. It isn't bad but it's not really remarkable for me.>>131862512He slowed down in everything after his heart attack. Before that, even up to the mid-late 50s, he was maintaining the same tempi in everything from his youth. That's why most people who know Walter as a conductor separate him into a pre-heart-attack period and a post-heart-attack period. Unfortunately most of his stereo recordings are the latter.>>131862659Nah, it's with the Gewandhausorchester. It's a very big departure from his previous recording as he started to listen to Walter and Mengelberg and came away inspired to change his approach to Mahler.>>131863016It's a big deal to me too but it's not a deal breaker. That being said all the stereo ones I mentioned in my post used split violins except for Maderna.
Ivo Janssen's Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ephQNcNhG5Y&list=OLAK5uy_kpXTO9jM-EoB-dXC3-q9ytXaE2XcZerWQ&index=1
now playing; always difficult deciding which recording to listen to for these piecesstart of Chopin: Piano Concerto No. 1 in E Minor, Op. 11https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dogTbiTDRxY&list=OLAK5uy_l7e583MqYElE0cOgO2-WlnWA-uAWMqHBE&index=2start of Chopin: Piano Concerto No. 2 in F Minor, Op. 21https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3jJiTk54nE&list=OLAK5uy_l7e583MqYElE0cOgO2-WlnWA-uAWMqHBE&index=4https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l7e583MqYElE0cOgO2-WlnWA-uAWMqHBE>Yundi, one of the most celebrated and influential pianists of today, has returned to Warner Classics with the signature of a long-term agreement between him and the label. His first release under the new agreement is an album of Chopin's Piano Concertos Nos 1 and 2, on which he directs the Warsaw Philharmonic Orchestra from the keyboard. This constitutes both his first recording as pianist-conductor and his first recording of the Piano Concerto No 2.
I always find myself in a chamber music mood when the weather is drearyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zbiWrDXs8Y
Thoughts on Čajkovski?
>>131864336Az a jó öreg Pjotr Iljics, tudod, ő az a fickó, aki a gyerekkori rémálmaidat és a bevásárlóközpontbeli körhintát is megzenésítette, ezzel is utalva a cukor és a végzet összefonódására. Az 1812-es nyitány? Ágyútűz, mint fogyasztói látványosság. A Hattyúk tava? Tollas bürokrácia. Úgy írt dallamokat, mint egy kartell: függőséget okozó, egyes államokban illegális, és mindig ez szól, amikor az adóhivatalnál várakozol a vonalban. Romantikus? Persze. De a cukor alatt ott rejlik az entrópia. A cukor csak annyit tesz, hogy az entrópiát el lehet dúdolni.
Once you hear Gieseking, there's no point in listening to any other solo piano recordings of Mozart, Ravel, or Debussy
>>131864565Not even Gieseking can make those wonderful pieces sound so dreadful as to forever turn me away from them.
>>131864575Silence
>>131864595Silence! I kill you! haha any gen x in this thread?
Mendelssohn.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ33AOK156Y&list=OLAK5uy_nkYAmdOJursJjVK2Pa5pWkw3wf7AlQf-Y&index=2
>>131864805>Munch/BSOblessed! I'm seeing the BSO perform Haydn's Creation next month, should be a good time!
>>131864859Who's conducting?
>>131864967Philippe JordanAnother great BSO performance of Mendelssohn courtesy of Koussevitzky:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=as44fTQmedw
Simply cannot decide which is worse faure or wagner.
>>131864990Well. At least it isn't Nelsons.
Simply cannot decide which is better faure or wagner.
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee di pensier’!
Found this guy on YouTube. Had never heard of him. Pretty good!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f38FGbXwKRU
Scarlattihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKFqU8ly0Ac
>tfw no Faure symphony, orchestral work, or balletwhy live?
now playingstart of Shostakovich: Piano Concerto No. 1 in C Minor, Op. 35https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0r3gIxxsWSc&list=OLAK5uy_mXxcs3H7xCBfS9AckIguBNvPvjv1CD1uo&index=2Shostakovich: String Quartet No. 2 in A Major, Op. 68: III. Waltz: Allegro (arr. B. Giltburg for piano)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqgKTPfZf2I&list=OLAK5uy_mXxcs3H7xCBfS9AckIguBNvPvjv1CD1uo&index=6start of Shostakovich: Piano Concerto No. 2 in F Major, Op. 102https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6mbZ2E2z80&list=OLAK5uy_mXxcs3H7xCBfS9AckIguBNvPvjv1CD1uo&index=7start of Shostakovich: String Quartet No. 8 in C Minor, Op. 110 (Arr. B. Giltburg for Piano) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbodS5efmhI&list=OLAK5uy_mXxcs3H7xCBfS9AckIguBNvPvjv1CD1uo&index=9https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mXxcs3H7xCBfS9AckIguBNvPvjv1CD1uo>Shostakovich's two Piano Concertos span a period of almost thirty years. The youthful First Piano Concerto is a masterful example of eclecticism, its inscrutable humour and seriousness allied to virtuoso writing enhanced by the rôle for solo trumpet. Written as a birthday present for his son Maxim, the Second Piano Concerto is light-spirited with a hauntingly beautiful slow movement. With the permission of the composer's family, Boris Giltburg has arranged the exceptionally dark, deeply personal and powerful String Quartet No. 8, thereby establishing a major Shostakovich solo piano composition.>CLASSICS TODAY: Artistic Quality 10/Sound Quality 10>"These are big, bold, in-your-face performances that find a wider range of expression in both works than you might have believed possible. Much of the credit for this belongs to Vasily Petrenko as well, who continues his series of top-notch Shostakovich recordings for Naxos." --David Hurwitz, ClassicsToday.com,
>>131866579>no orchestral workWhat? Did they delete the Requiem, Pelléas et Mélisande and Fantaisie for piano and orchestra out of existence?
HOLY SHIT
huh, how did I not know Menuhin recorded a set of Bach's Sei Solo? you hissfans are slipping!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dopW7SeGX6Y&list=OLAK5uy_m0HWIcu-OPBJB_eM0UI8ifD55Sr5CqcOY&index=17
>>131866673Is that a KOREAN playing the PIANO? Stop the presses! People need to hear this!
>>131866673Yeah, it's pretty great.
>>131866673Yeah, it's pretty shit.
>tfw confidently yet incorrectly identified the famous William Tell Overture theme as the famous theme from The Nutcracker in front of several peopleit's so over
>>131866725Anon... I hate to say it but... it may be time to hand in your classical card...
>>131866684Scriabin >>131866694Rachmaninov
If anyone is looking for an uber-romantic Ravel set, try Collard's, the pianist who recorded the complete Faure set everyone here loves.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3t3vVx5FNQ&list=OLAK5uy_kmjpbi3e53wxyrRmkZrecIqoTO3DuYzvw&index=3
I'm listening to Shostakovich's 15th Symphony!
So now that the dust has settled, has Luisi's Scriabin orchestral works set dethroned previous champions and familiar favorites like Ashkenazy, Muti, Petrenko, et al.?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCGDwFRdztk&list=OLAK5uy_lx84nLbrV-vFcieAQfmeQnXO2RGLseIe0&index=3https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNIrXcbYh7Q&list=OLAK5uy_lx84nLbrV-vFcieAQfmeQnXO2RGLseIe0&index=11https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jRqWx4pJaU&list=OLAK5uy_lx84nLbrV-vFcieAQfmeQnXO2RGLseIe0&index=28https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9Nc_hbBWAI&list=OLAK5uy_lx84nLbrV-vFcieAQfmeQnXO2RGLseIe0&index=34
>>131866675Because while it's fine it's not really that interesting compared to something like Heifetz, Milstein, Busch, or EnescuHis performance with Enescu of the double concerto is GOAT, though.
MILF (Man I Love Fauré)
>>131867773top 5 works? 10 if you're truly patrician
>>131867803The string quartet and Requiem for sure, 1st and 2nd piano quartets, some of the nocturnes e.g. 4, 6 and 7
>>131867982Nice. Not the Ballade?
every time I forget to listen to Mendelssohn, it further reminds me of just how underrated he ishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiUd_RlPp9Ahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZFIXT1NDwU
now playingstart of Fauré: 13 Barcarolleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPNGvn--IK8&list=OLAK5uy_nBLyzoxZNqw6A_A4KnWLuXfayDGw75evk&index=2start of Fauré: Trois Romances sans paroles, Op. 17https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xODpf1HrKL8&list=OLAK5uy_nBLyzoxZNqw6A_A4KnWLuXfayDGw75evk&index=14https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nBLyzoxZNqw6A_A4KnWLuXfayDGw75evk>Exemplary. Classic. Spellbinding. And enthusiastically recommended. --Fanfare
>>131868300We hate him cause he's Jewish
>>131855103what did I think of it?
>>131868464Oh sweet, thanks for the shout. Chamayou is generally pretty good, even great at times. This could be an instant classic.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhSAR073UU0&list=OLAK5uy_mn9JXiMDTV4OtwoaRv8wCz-0uFyZcsC5g&index=1Is it actually out yet? Seems YouTube Music only has four singles available, including link above. Sounds great though!
>>131868562its fully out on sp*tify
>>131868592Ah. I'll wait till it's out on YM. In any case, Chamayou is on my list of living pianists whom I'll listen to any new release by.
*soulja boi voice*chamayouuuuuuu
*breaks into your home and slows all of your digital classical recordings by 10%, repeating every two months until you succumb to madness*
>>131868662That happens automatically, it's called rotational velocidensity.
>>131868675Is this your tactic to drive me to madness? Effective.
someone needs to lock this freak up: >>131868662
Schuberthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbxdK22g3aI&list=OLAK5uy_n06qr-kUo04faNTI21k_XdN1PfJSp2gCo&index=1I always forget this Octet exists.
It's timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKwtxP1P2BM&list=OLAK5uy_nhOtN55RlOjWAek3gpbe48_010_qBehrg&index=1
>>131868662It's you who'll go mad first
>>131869740It's one of those puzzles from Assassin's Creed 2
>>131869751>mfw speeding it up by 10% each time instead
is there really any piece of music that beats >>131869740 when it comes to evoking a sense of vast and boundless space? I doubt it.
>>131869740based!
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naLoQroQBGw&xstg=CAMSBhUDzO3xHw%3D%3D
>>131869791https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSYJdu-Es_E
>>131868300While Mendelssohn may be underrated, his string quartets and 4th symphony are not.
Was Hannibal right to eat this flute player?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78oQxv6VN4Q
>>13186866210% is too noticeable
>>131871728/classical/ posters are not all serial killers... well I am but that's not the point.
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9JWxgYirrE
>>131871456further proof Mendelssohn is underrated
>>131868075no, but it is a good piece nonetheless
>>131870154well, the piece that it inspired — the beginning of Also sprach Zarathustra!
>>131872401"If Mendelssohn missed greatness, he missed it by a cunt hair." - H. L. Menckenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_7fLTLHV2Q
I used to feel kinda meh about the Beethoven sonatas but this cycle has really opened my eyes.
>>131872633It's one of the very best, yeah. Glad you like it.
There's Schnabel and then there's everyone else.
MY NIGGERS
>>131873064there's retarded and then there's (you)
>>131872892Where's Alfred "thinking man's pianist" Brendel?
>>131873194In the trash where he belongs.
>>131873194On my chart.
now playinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3auRnWDuxV4
>>131873202>t. unthinking man
>>131873249takes one to know one.
>>131873249Romanticism is about feeling, not thinking.
Aaron Pilsan's Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgZqrQM-grw&list=OLAK5uy_kTFThToU2cJNfI8ogObQ8swsoYD8cYWAk&index=27
>>131873253>no u>>131873263>Beethoven>RomanticChoose one.
a harpsichord WTC I just discovered for fans of the instrument, by Andreas Staier. Hope you like it!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36udtSUeMf8&list=OLAK5uy_kJ6dmCwidP2UKm3IxZIvNn381KykyvzFs&index=19He has a recording of the second book as well.
>>131873356https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
>>131873373harpsichord advocates should be outlawed and shot on sight.
now playing, just discovered an unfamiliar composer, Einar Englund (1916-1999)start of Englund: Symphony No. 2, "The Blackbird"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L--_mhf1G5o&list=OLAK5uy_lW6ZVWgJ64vrqayyjSMkj7h0NUo-OvK68&index=2start of Englund: Piano Concerto No. 1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRk93F3X-r8&list=OLAK5uy_lW6ZVWgJ64vrqayyjSMkj7h0NUo-OvK68&index=5start of Englund: Symphony No. 4, "Nostalgic"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mebejxtsQEc&list=OLAK5uy_lW6ZVWgJ64vrqayyjSMkj7h0NUo-OvK68&index=7https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lW6ZVWgJ64vrqayyjSMkj7h0NUo-OvK68Englund is a Finnish composer. Hopefully this isn't the kind of modernist classical that's primarily meant for academics and fellow composers, like Norgard. We'll see.
>>131873404>Einar Englundsounds like the name of a Saxon monk.
where should i start with hindemith
>>131873438His Kammermusiken and the Mathis der Maler Symphony.
>>131873395I'm no fan but sometimes in my constant vigilance discovering new piano WTC sets to listen to and hopefully add to my permanent rotation, I come across a harpsichord one that seems high quality based on a quick sample (not that I know any better) and reviews, so why not share the fruits of that labor when I know we have some harpsichord fans here? Especially since I love the Well-Tempered Clavier an extraordinary amount.
>>131873438your nearest garbage dump.you have been warned.
https://youtu.be/l-0aee7hjgABeautiful harp quintet by a composer I (and likely most of you here) haven't heard of
>>131873438The Blomstedt set + the piano sonatas + viola sonatashttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhdLdTNfDe4&list=OLAK5uy_kaLk8VErjHsUs5iwvhjFa-VfYOLnyM7YM&index=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEQ8HP-ycEw&list=OLAK5uy_mhiNJO6Wv0_r_Gvbg7xBJ_NmFSbTQwm0Y&index=5https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj8SIxq5ES4&list=OLAK5uy_mhYzvIOYWBm3DXKM5gxaVP9dNhXoftpzk&index=1https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUqrYC7N7kk&list=OLAK5uy_lUbWNJ3b4rNN7sYbgS81LrRVyjZ4RyInU&index=1
Listen to Aaron Coplandhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auamnA8T0nw&list=OLAK5uy_mOsn2495PJMIdXSHcvuOIlOu8YENQnzNs&index=1
>>131873194>>131873202Brendel’s Beethoven is so boring and uninspired id almost rather listen to Schiff. Brendel has some moments of brilliance, but it ain’t in Beethoven.
>>131873483I've been listening to the Vitebsk trio and the Dance Symphony lately, really like both. Been meaning to do the 3rd symphony and Spring.
>>131873483oh... ok.
wtf i like opera again!?!?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEUnpXq0uSA&list=OLAK5uy_nZtvgOzEqkNR4GQJ6cD2fPWiGUnhRi0rY&index=1
>tfw will never be a CEO of a giant corporation with the power to force your tens of thousands of employees to listen to classical whenever they're at work or be fired, thereby over time turning them all patrician and cultured, who then take their love of classical music home, to their friends, and to their future jobs, propagating a new generation of classical lovers and saving classical musicwhy live?
>>131873375It's not a dilemma. Beethoven isn't Romantic, full stop.
>>131873546if it's any consolation a boss like that would be murdered by one of his employees and it would look like an accident.
>>131873620Did someone say Consolation???https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuuOtZw1-zI&list=OLAK5uy_luAy5d-weHLmgtXckoZVwiwFG2En2uLV0&index=2
>>131873658>CEO Anon Emoss of Vandelay Incorporated was found dead in his office yesterday morning with two bullet wounds in the back of his head. police and various investigators believe it was a suicide.
ugh, I just discovered three more 21st century WTC sets, I'm never gonna get through this backlog. Time aside, I'm excited to try them!
>>131873705>tfw the American public is so philistine and vulgar, they would sooner commit murder than listen to a symphonygrim
>>131873616Beethoven is romantic. Full stop.
>>131873799Nope.
>>131873964you're arguing with a retarded tourist but you should direct him to read Schillinger's book on harmony which refutes the idea of Beethoven being a romantic composer.
>>131873964Not an argument.>>131874003>uhmmm, read this bookNot an argument.
>>131874034you need to be at least 18 years old to post here.
>>131874049and yet here you are
>>131873799please tell me you guys aren’t actually falling for this bait
>>131874224Eroica symphony is a romantic piece. C# minor quartet is a romantic piece. Sonata No.30 in a romantic piece.
>>131874003I realize that, yes. No matter how hard you try to convince a retard, they'll just keep doubling down.
Beethoven often returned to the classical idiom (e.g. quartet in F major Op. 135, 8th symphony), but inbetween those, he surely had romantic periods, which is precisely what became the dawn of the romantic period. If you think otherwise, you really should read and listen more.
>>131874548Go ahead and explain what a romantic piece is why your examples fit into that criteria.
What's Beethoven's best symphony and why is it the 7th?
>>131874597There is no universally agreed-upon checklist to determine whether something is romantic or not, but you know that well. But several musical and cultural tendencies cluster together and it obviously pushes Beethoven into the romantic period, assuming Schumann, Saint-Saëns or Mahler were romantic. I'm going to name several traits that made Beethoven a romantic composer - just don't whatabout me because we can't quantitatively compare composers (unless we use data analsis), we just agree that some things are more prominent in romantic composers (such as Beethoven, Schubert, Schumann and Mahler) than non-romantic composers (such as Mozart, Haydn, Boccherini, Clementi): distorted, expanded traditional forms (e.g. from 4 movements to 7), harmony (from clear functional harmony to extensive chromaticism, unexpected and distant key modulations, unresolved dissonances(!!!)), programmatic content (Pastoral), and most importantly, expressiveness (from clear, transparent textures, very little markings, strady tempos and dynamics to Beethovenian bombastic dynamic contrasts and emotional outbursts, heavy rubato etc etc etc.)Yes, you can find many such examples in classical, but the *amount* is what determines whether the idiom has shifted or not. In Beethoven's case, it repeatedly has. So much so, that Beethoven is more romantic than some of the romantic composers themselves in pieces like Appassionata.>>131874683Incorrect. It's either his most romantic (3rd) or his most classical (8th).
>>131874714this guy could name so many more things that he had to use three (3) etcs. surely he must be right.
>>131874733Yes, expressiveness is the most important here. You hear it all over Beethoven: sforzandos, ritardandos and accelerandos, crescendo molto, dolce, sempre, bunch of emotional markings like appassionato, mesto, sotto voce (whisper) - have you ever read a single Beethoven score?
>>131874548>C# minor quartet is a romantic piece. Sonata No.30 in a romantic piece.must....resist....the bait......>>131874592Interestingly, Beethoven's late works were ignored by the romantics (except for a young Mendelssohn) because his late style was a return to the classical idiom in his own radical way. The romantics drew more inspiration from Beethoven's earlier works.>>131874714fuck it, I'm taking the baitFirstly, there is nothing "Romantic" about expressive performance. Read CPE Bach or some other period treatise.Secondly, Beethoven didn't "expand traditional forms", his music is characterized by a retraction to classical forms in his late style. Thirdly, most of the qualities you cite are present in Mozart's music and often to a greater degree. The use of extensive chromaticism, harsh dissonances, and expressiveness, were all present in Mozart's music
>>131874826>because his late style was a return to the classical idiom in his own radical way.No it wasn't. Eroica, 5th, pastoral and choral were INCREDIBLY influential, and they are all romantic piecs of music undoubtedly.>Firstly, there is nothing "Romantic" about expressive performance. Read CPE Bach or some other period treatise.Strawman.>Secondly, Beethoven didn't "expand traditional forms", his music is characterized by a retraction to classical forms in his late style.Bait. Op. 130 has 7 movements. You aren't even trying.>Thirdly, most of the qualities you cite are present in Mozart's music Whataboutism. I already addressed this exact point, but a seething mind lacks reading comprehension evidently.I accept your concession
>>131874860 Before you correct me, yes, Op. 130 is technically six movements, but I count Grosse Fuge as well. It just works as 7 movement piece. *Nevertheless, six movements is still not four movements.
>>131874683Cause it's the only one that doesn't have a shit 2nd movement
>>131874826nta, but you're a massive retard for skimming through his post.
>>131874953you think we can't recognize samefagging (you) fucking little underage cock sucker? please go and read Schillinger's book and come back.
>>131874996meds
>>131874860I wasn't aware that the 3rd, 5th, and 6th symphonies were part of Beethoven's late style. Wow, imagine that!you have a distinct posting style. It's reminiscent of the anon who argued sonata form was more formal among Haydn, Mozart, and Beethoven because they called pieces "sonatas" -- in fact, they had the same "i accept your concession" gimmick.Nice job trolling, I took the bait so you can feel proud of yourself.
>>131875056I never said they were late Beethoven. But his most infliential piece which is the 9th, is late indeed. Classic red herring.>sonata form was more formal among Haydn, Mozart, and BeethovenIt was indeed.>because they called pieces "sonatas" I personally never said this. >Nice job trolling,I accept your concession.
>>131873263Correct. You seem to have won this exchange, congrats.
speaking of the 9th, this is one of the most intense performances I've heard. Courtesy of Toscanini in Buenos Aireshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5dK_Minqd8
>>131875091Thank you.
>>131875160My pleasure.
>>131874826Correct. You seem to have won this exchange, congrats.
>>131875513Thank you.
>>131875513>starts off with incorrect claims and logical fallacies>congratsUtterly mindbroken.
>César Franck's Symphony in d MinorFirst movement: 8/10Second movement: 5/10Third movement: 6/10A decent piece overall.
Modern high culture is as much a set of footnotes to Wagner as Western philosophy is, in Whitehead’s judgement, footnotes to Plato.
>>131875694Lmfao. I won't even argue about Wagner since I can't defend modern "high" culture, but putting Plato above Western philosophy is embarrassing. Philosophy peaked precisely when the music did, in 19th and 20th century.
>>131855103roy harrishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsV40iwW4Oo
I've come across Sorabji lately and...how the fuck do you listen to this?It feels like a constant barrage of chaotic notes, a stream of mostly dissonant notes without a discernible structure, and yet it's not random.I'm still weirdly intrigued by his work, wondering what kind of mind comes up with this kind of music.
>*Makes your composition good*
>>131876035>its not randomCoulda fooled me
today's listenhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAJ1_bPX5Iw
>>131876053>Debussy.jpg
>>131876251Uh pretty sure that's Poulenc...
>>131876336You're "pretty sure" huh?
>>131876438As sure as anyone can be in these uncertain times of ours.
>>131876438When did Mahler stop wearing glasses?
>>131876486since after his laser eye surgery
>>131876499yeah no that was Bach.
>>131876035Strictly speaking, he was the absolute GOAT. He solved counterpoint, harmony and form, all at once. There's nothing beyond Sorabji to listen to, he is the apotheosis in Western music (in other words, culmination of 12 tone tuning system music). But incredibly hard to digest and actually enjoy. And there aren't many good recoedings unfortunately. So you may be excused for being filtered at the moment.
>>131876542Cope harder Sanjesh
>>131876583Huh. Maybe you meant to reply to someone else?
Schumann.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je7oJ0IKZEg&list=OLAK5uy_nEv1U8_02ZJxrKGA15g9wtfZHEgZH7yNo&index=2
>>131876789I am quite enjoying this recording. Hats off to maestro Sawallisch!
>>131875639Looks about right.
I've fallen in love with Heifetz's Bach. On initial listen, I found it to be plain and stodgy, but on repeated listens, the simplicity gave way to elegance and beauty, allowing the essence of Bach's music to shine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHZkGrQRAe4&list=OLAK5uy_my799Fdea9ZvA-VswikEEdkYB0Fb2co60&index=8
just listened to Allegri's Miserere for the first time
>runtimeO_Oalso wtf, why are there 97 tracks instead of 96? let's scroll down... they end with another performance of BWV 846 C Major Prelude, I fuckin' kneel
>>131878189>they end with another performance of BWV 846 C Major Preludeholy kino
>>131876542>solvedwhoever uses terminology like this is retardedmusic isn't a problem to be "solved", so obviously you are being metaphorical and you mean something else. the problem is no one has a clue what it is you mean.
>>1318746839 > 3 > 8 > 7 > 6 > 4 > 5 > 1 > 2
Classical is the evolution of Bach and Romanticism is the evolution of Handel. Simple as
I only listen to Mozart's Great C Minor Mass with the missing Credo movements filled by K. 66 and the missing Agnus Dei filled by K. 337's
Browsing here has made me realise I was pretending to like classical to seem smart.Goodbye, shall go back to listening to anime and video game soundtracks.
https://youtu.be/div6nU5JlAAFour lovely peasant song settings by Stravinsky
>>131878476shoo!*brooms you away*
>>131878247I can accept this ranking since 3 and 8 are so up there, but 5th is defintely up there and arguably third best, so the true ranking is:3 > 8 > 6 > 5 > 7 > 9 > 4 > 1 > 2
>>131855429This post was written by Richard Starkey, not Richard Wagner.
>3 and a half star rating so far for the new Trifonovit's so overone community reviewer wrote,>Stay away!! (1-star)>Music on this album is uniformly mediocre - and boring. Sound is somewhat murky, too. Don’t be fooled into buying it because you liked its predecessor, “NOR”; there is no comparison with that very wonderful album.another,>This is just not on my list of Daniil Trifonov favorites. (3-stars)>I have all of Daniil's CDs and thoroughly enjoy most of the as on my all time favorite list. However, after listening to his new CD I have given up several times in the past week of finding anything on it that I would add to my favorities playlist. Some of the pieces on this CD actually annoy me. Yes. I did say that. It shocked me and is still bothering me that I simply cannot get into this music.yikes
>>131855103Hello, /classical/. Recommend me your best pieces to depression-maxx. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8_ozplK-6w&xstg=CAMSBhUDzO3xHw%3D%3D
>>131879962https://youtu.be/fsnyCAjbpgo?si=-_-N5ufpPZRHZk5d
>>131879962If you like modernism, try the symphonies of Allan Petersson.
Mozarthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzsEkKl82ms&list=OLAK5uy_kaeteBG6heCp5UJyrYrSLK8rEWZArDnp0&index=1
the fastest way into the Moe's Heart is to tell her you're a fan of Mozart~
>bach's cantatas
desire to listen to all of Gould's Bach increasing...
>>131859187>>131859174>>131859261https://www.classicalwcrb.org/show/the-boston-symphony-orchestraLive broadcast just started. They are playing Polonaise from Eugene Onegin, Carlos Simon in 5 mins.
>>131872259He will rape again
Man, what's the deal with Bach's English and French Suites? Is there any discernable structure whatsoever? Granted, I'm a layman with awful musical perception, but whenever I listen to them, they really come across as an onslaught of counterpoint, where no ten-second snippet relates to any other.
>>1318746833=6=9=8=7=5=4=2=1
>>131880214Just do it. You'll finish in like 3 hours with how fast he plays
>>131880214Deedle deedle Bach
Just listened to Schubert's Kinotet. A masterpiece! Bravo!
>>131880984https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRdIxP3e2QY
>>131880984Love that work, love that recording.
>>131880984You could have linked it at least https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEL5pCQjPpI
>>131880714filtered
Alexandra Papastefanou's Bachhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYfaeEYen6Q&list=OLAK5uy_mxlL8KzdMe-WFzSq5iZcwPY5zEMYadY-M&index=1
Is there a proper way to listen to counterpoint? Should you follow one line/voice in one listen, then the other the next? Or just let whichever freely grab your attention, and alternate back-and-forth as the piece goes on?
>>131881841join a classical choir or just ignore my advice. whichever suits you.
>>131881810>the "G" is off the Pianoalsothats a man
>OH MY SOIENCE, IF MY CALCULATIONS ARE CORRECT, WAIT A MINUTE! IS THAT THE HECKIN' MAIN THEME UPSIDE DOWN?!!!
>>131882039yes, it's called form.
>>131882051Its totally inaudible though
>>131882052well you are retarded and tone-deaf. these things are to be expected.
>>131881810>name is literally "Papa Stefan"wew lad>>131881841you can find all kinds of classes and resources online; but the easiest way, for me, was listening to Bach's Two and Three-Part Inventions -- which were used as exercises for his students.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ShOyEGGvkY
>>131882063 You can recognize the contour and rhythm. If you inverted some of the intervals and changed the rhythm then it would be completely obscured that the relative distances between the notes is the inversion of the given theme (which we haven't even established what it is yet). Ultimately diverting a theme is an arbitrary decision and an exercise in navel-gazing. But I am just trying to have fun anyway. You must have missed that in your inexhaustible autism.
>>131882109>diverting a themeInverting. Retarded spell check
>>131882149>>131882109why do you have down syndrome?
>>131882156Ad strawmanem
>>131882160ad hominem implies you have down syndrome you fucking retard. I'm surprised you managed to even find this website.
>>131882181That's why its ad STRAWMANEM, as in not only have you fallaciously brought my character into the argument, you have also misrepresented my character as well. Not much else to say other than you lost the argument and I have the internet points. Sorry pal, you shouldn't have gotten in over your head by taking on a vereran shitposter like me.
>>131882209>vererancome back when you've graduated from kindergarten.
>>131882238You are literally this guy>>131882039I'm not lying when I say you should get a trip so we can filter you.
Somebody should break the organ that is playing John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Just sayin'
>>131882311it would be a shame if someone were to turn the power off. a real shame...
>>131879962https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7Xq6AwFRHQ
I am in a world, where I am taking a stroll in a beautiful park built by the divine, suddenly my legs feel tired and request to stop. Cordially I went on ahead to sit under the shade of a chestnut tree. My fatigue washes away from me as I slip into my imaginative daydreaming, I can hear the melancholic chirping of the sparrows and the water flowing from the creeks, feel the gust of a chilly wind approaching my face, smell the rejuvenating fragrance of the good earth. But then I realize I was just listening to the start of Lohengrin. I a poor soul, venerate the gods for creating such beauty and allowing an inferior soul like me to experience it!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG53S27HI5k
>>131879962If it's like melodramatic depression, probably Schubert's Death and the Maiden quartet. If it's more nihilistic depression, then maybe something like Ligeti's Lontano.
>>131880984Nice, I like the Hagen Quintet recording.
Amazing. The Glory of Russian Music. I have never been so emotionally moved before I began to listen to Slavs. They simply hit different. How do they do it? The mastery of all the arts is clearly native to the Russian Soul.https://youtu.be/-Gqlwsecbto
>>131878275other way around
About to attend the first concert of the season. On the program are>Icarus (a tone poem by a contemporary female composer)>Schumann's Cello Concerto Op. 129 (soloist: Steven Isserlis)>Mahler's Symphony No. 1 (nicknamed "Titan")
>>131883525nice, i appreciate what a schumann advocate isserlis is.
>>131883525I'm almost certain that Icarus thing will be a piece of crap
Modern /classical/ is as much a set of footnotes to the vagner meme as ancient /classical/ was, in anon's judgment, footnotes to Petzold.
>>131880859>with how fast he playsBut he plays slower than usual in most of his recordings. I dont get this meme
new>>131883548>>131883548>>131883548
>>131883547Yes he plays all the composers he doesn't like painfully slow and all the composers he does like he plays outrageously fast. In general he just sucks and is overrated.
