Punk emerged as a reaction to mass youth unemployment and a lack of social support caused by a conservative society. It rejected overproduced bloated arena rock. The movement would shift to explicitly criticizing and standing against Regan and Thatcher.Future waves of punk, such as Riot Grrl, Anarcho-punk, goth, and folk-punk would keep criticizing conservatism.Yet now, some people on the internet claim that punk is conservative. That is denying the reality of the genre.Now, a fascist is in the whitehouse. I've felt the youth unemployment and constant state of fear caused by the far right. This fear is designed to keep us all complacent.Why don't we unite behind punk against the hegemonic Capitalist Epstein class? Be more PUNK be more GOTH tell the terfs to fuck off!!
>>131904847>Punk emerged as a reaction to mass youth unemployment and a lack of social support caused by a conservative society.It was a response to the Hippie movement because Chuds on the Right and Tankies on the Left both saw the hippies as impotent liberals who wanted an excuse to smoke weed and have massive orgies instead of tackling actual social issues.
>>131904871were hippies based this whole time?
>>131904871>left and right saw hippies as impotentThey kind of were? The Left had a lot of criticisms of hippies
>>131904883>>131904871The true redpill is realizing that hippies weren't liberals either, they were the kind of libertarian that just wants the right to own guns to defend their weed farms, and this set off autists on both sides of the political spectrum
>>131904883Much more based then the far right, not as based as the New Left
>>131904847Punk has been dead as a music genre for 40 years anon.
>>131904911100% Hippies were basically that kind of libertarian (source: I'm an ex-libertarian, now leftist)
This is why punk is dead. Too many people think they’re punk. Rejecting human biology isn’t punk. Being trans and acknowledging that you’re not a biological woman is actually way more punk than pretending otherwise. If you want to be punk, start calling for the abolishment of Islam and banning Muslims from the United States.
>>131904928Dazey And The Scouts, Sister Wife Sex Strike, Harley Poe?
>>131904937Three words anon. Queercore and Taqwacore and Anarcho-punk!
There’s not one position held by “punks” that doesn’t help the capitalist class.>open borders/ belief in the free flow of all people throughout the world>feminism/ introducing women to the economy as workers>belief in progress by dismantling the boundaries of tradition>opposition to strong nationalist governments>belief that everything is ok as long as it’s consensualThat’s capitalism
>>131904953Anarcho-punk is the default, and really the only kind of punk that matters. I don’t care about progressive Muslims or Christians—they can all get fucked. If you are attached to religion or your sexual orientation so much that it requiresAn ideology, you’re not punk.
>>131905009So attached*
>>131904995Some punks go further then the neoliberal norm right into anti-capitalism.
>>131905009Anarchism supports the liberation of people of all genders, orientations, and religions. Basic Anarchist theory.
>>131904995Imagine thinking Wall Street wants what punks want.>On BordersCapitalists want borders to keep labor trapped in the Global South, exploit them for pennies, and deny them rights. Anarcho-Punks want the total destruction of the nation-state and border imperialism. Huge difference.>FeminismCapitalists want women working 60 hours generateing profit for CEOs and doing unpaid domestic labor. Punks want the liberation of women from patriarchal expectations and wage slavery.>Tradition: Capitalists don't dismantle tradition to progress, they commodify it. Turn genuine culture into plastic garbage you can buy at Hot Topic. Punks want true solidarity, not target pride. You're conflating Neoliberalism (rainbow drones and lesbian pilots) with Leftism (queer liberation is a class strugle). Corporations co-opt radical punk language because genuine leftist autonomy is the only thing that actually threatens their bottom line.Nice try trying to frame the Epstein class as punk. defending state power and traditional hierarchies makes you the ultimate corporate foot soldier. Kek.
>>131904847I'M A NAZI SCHATZI FIGHT FOR THE FATHERLAND
>>131905107From genius:>This song was written by Dee Dee Ramone about growing up in Germany and being bullied. His father was an American soldier and his mother was a German woman. Dee Dee had a fascination with the Nazi memorabilia he would find in the German rubble.Many people of German descent have struggled with the legacy of nazism. It makes sense to explore this in song.
>>131905088>rainbow drones and lesbian pilotsDog Park Dissidents?
>>131905088The only effective difference between a Wall Street executive putting things in his nose and punk putting things in his ass is self awareness. Everything you call liberation is just disintegration of social defenses against perverted crooks.>leftist autonomyYou mean bulldozers for the new transnational purely consensual meat market
>>131905220>Perverted crooksThis line perfectly describes the Epstein class.>social defensesName an era with 'social defenses' I guarantee you wouldn't want to live in the 1950s. The British have already tried to ban 4Chan, so I imagine that a 1950s style society would have SO many internet regulations.So many anons advocate for social conservatism without understanding what living under social conservativism, not hippie pseudo-libertarianism, but genuinely oppressive social conservatism, is like.
>>131905265>Epstein class.Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.
Mental illness is a prerequisite for being on the left
>>131905338That is not what I'm trying to imply. The Epstein Class are wealthy capitalists across religions and it is primarily a matter of wealth and privilege that sustains the Epstein class and capitalism.
>>131905353Ad Hominem, anyone?
>>131905265Ironically, wealth inequality was much lower in the 1950s.
>>131904847After 14 years of Warped Tour, you should all be embarrassed to keep clinging to this shit so hard.
>>131905462Yes, conservative policies have driven up wealth inequality. Anti-authoritarian thinkers have some ideas for driving them back down (such as mutual aid, robust unions, ETC).
>>131905548>Vans Warped TourSee: Co-opting the message
>>131904847The only real punk is getting wasted and sleeping on the streets Leftists at least go to protests or something
people who behave like the borat-tier lazy improv character op is trying to portray need to come to terms with the idea that small s socialists have become small c conservatives and aren't cool or threatening in any way. the music is 50 years old. the asthetic is whack. this doesn't appeal to anybody. you need to stop larping and come up with something new that is actually relevant to the youth of this century
