we have many threads about music, but none about what we listen to music on. or if anyone was thinking about improving their listening experience or getting new gear they could ask for advice.just a thread to show off your hifi gear, speakers, headphones, amplifiers whatever youve got. like a /g/ battlestation thread but for musicpic related my KEF speakers. nothing special but get the job done
>>131947599u jelly /mu/?
>cat tree in the same roomdisgusting
it suckscant believe i got baited into buying this
>>131947599audiophilia is mostly a meme. just get some decent speakers and a $100 amp from amazon. the most important thing in my setup is the equalizer I use in my media player.
Ive always imagined everyone on /mu/ is broke or a 80 iq brainlet so listens through a tin can or if theyre even dumber, through their pc
>>131947718whats a decent speakers and amp for that price? i dont have anything and would like to buy some
>>131947599my setup
>>131947749if I had to buy a new stereo setup today I'd probably just get a pair of JBL powered monitors for $200-300 for the pair depending on woofer size.
should i get a headphone amp or are they a meme?
>>131947760wish i had stuff like this to make my uncompressed audio flacs actually worth it.
>>131947749nta but just spend it all on speakers90 percent of how good music sounds is the speakers. not the compression or the preamp or dac or other stuff
>>131947771TY anon
are you a real audiophile if you don't have these magic sticks?
>>131948449m8 this isnt /pw/still tony btw
>>131949577what are these even meant to do?
>>131950908https://stereotimes.com/post/shatki-hallograph-soundfield-optimizer/
>>131950949do they actually work or is that guy just bullshitting
>>131951157no idea, but I doubt they do anything.
>>131951157the cat tower in the OP image would have more impact
>>131947617minetheyre ok for headphones but like all headphones they have no bass
>>131951450>like all headphones they have no bassYou've obviously never tried EQed planars.
>>131951486are planar headphones better than IEM ones?
Are there any brands that are expensive/people think are good but are actually shit/ a ripoff? and vice versa
>>131951632are 2 big speakers better than 2 tiny little ones?yes.
>>131951450>like all headphones they have no basssee this is why i dont respect anybodies music tastes on this board. you faggots have no fucking clue how to listen to music holy fucking hell
>>131947771is buying a subwoofer with these a meme or is it worth it?
>>131951827ok rajesh enlighten us
>>131951820That's reductive to the point of being deliberately retarded.
why do my speakers mog my more expensive headphones so hard? i cant believe i fell for the headphone meme
>>131947599I would love the decent speaker setup but my desk is too small to install it properly, so I've been listening to music exclusively with headphones or iems (Sennheiser HD600 and Truthear Hexa)
>>131951854so is your question. look up planar headphones
>>131951486whenever i EQ my speakers or headphones bass beyond like 4db they start sperging out and sound terrible. and below 4db i cant even notice the difference.
>>131952048if you're not using a dac w a proper amplifier yeah it's gonna suck. also, you gotta balance the sound, not just blast everything you want louder and keep the rest the samepoweramp on my phone has a great eqf2k on my pc very easy too, you can set it up how you wishif you're using browser extensions on yt or spotify, you deserve all the terrible sound in the world
>>131952048What are your headphones/speakers?
>>131952022moron
>>131952089nigger having bigger diaphragms will lead to better bass. it's (scuse the pun) basic physics.sure, planars will usually dedicate their own power supply cause you need more power to run them to the full resolution which makes them a slightly bigger hassle than IEMs but the clarity and the size of the sound is uncomparable. tbf most expensive IEMs i tried were only 100$, but if the quality difference werent notable, i wouldnt be writing this
>>131952162iems plug up the end of a tube diaphragm size literally doesn't matter
>>131952268yes that's why by bigger diaphragms and drivers you need more power.you can see that by the IMPEDANCE of any headphones. the higher the impedance, the harder it is to drive the cans through just your phone/pc aux jack. you need a dac for that. you retards bottleneck yourselves so hard lmao
dont buy anything from douk, fiio, wiim, or any of these new age chifi brands everything i get from them breaks
>>131947776some pc motherboards change frequency response by the output impedience they hold, which is solved by a headphone amp and dac. It's better than it was so it's not always needed, more depends on what you have that needs power really. what headphones?>>131951632>are planar headphones better than IEM ones?dan clark aeons, audeze lcd 2/x(5 if your a rich fag) are going to sound better than basically any iem you touch really, planar iems are mostly shit on for a number of reasons, the main issue with headphone planars is treble problems which is more so for some models like chinkfiman china slop, audeze's are notoriously dark and usually you want to eq to fix themif your buying planars though you can't cheap out on chinese like fiio, they literally all break or have the worst qc in all of audio like hifiman>>131952048every audio product has distortion, if you only amp up you will make it a lot worse and start to clip or distort, thats why most eq profiles negative pre amp and adjust the major flaws down instead of only up. Use Peace + equalizer apo and use the "autoeq" to find presets
best bluetooth planar headphones?
>>131952562>treble problemsyeah i usually dip mine out around 7 and 11 khz a lot
>>131952610you need a dac tard
should i buy these lads?https://audio-exchange.com/products/magico-m9
>>131952610audeze maxwellnone of them have very good quality control, planars are a lot more delicate and prone to failure than dynamics so be careful with them>>131952621some just ring out in the treble and it just ends up being torture to listen to, especially if you are treble sensitive or have tinitus, for any reason one would have it, be it sinus issues, hearing loss or pressure on the ear drumi think super best audio friends coined it the "ortho wall" >>131952638all the super rich fags around me get buyers remorse from their $100k+ set upsmaybe they finally spend 10 mins online and realize all audio pros are still using random monitor speakers they liked from the 80s that are only like 2k, or random shit like altec flamincos for whatever reason
>>131952632https://thewearify.com/best-phone-with-dac/
>>131952675at that point just get wired ones. you're not gonna be lugging allat around with you anyways
official things i have (and things you NEED) if you dont want to ruin your musicActive crossoverAudio reclockerAudio source selectorAV preamplifier/processorAV receiverCD playerDACDigital audio transportDigital-to-digital converter (DDC)DSP / room correction processorEqualiserFM/DAB tunerGround-loop isolatorHDMI audio switchHDMI eARC audio extractorIntegrated amplifierMaster clock generatorMultiroom audio hubNetwork music streamerOptical/coaxial audio converterPhono preamplifierPower conditionerPowered subwooferSpeaker selector switchStereo power amplifierStereo preamplifierTurntable
>>131952654>realize all audio pros are still using random monitor speakersfr my motto is good enough is good enough. well t b f im also kinda broke and only have cheapo planars but ay they're cool
>>131952749old speakers get kinda shit if you dont maintain them. the rubber goes, the fluid in the tweeter turns to glue and stops it working right, the foam insulation inside crumbles away and the paper woofers break downbut used stuff is always great value in speakers because people want new shiny shit so stuff from a decade ago is like 1/10 of the price
>>131952776you mean the paper cones inside the woofers. the actual woofers are magnets and rubber
>>131952776>eter turns to glue and stops it working right, the foam insulation inside crumbles away and the paper woofers break downsome are worse than others, a lot of good shit from the 80-2000s used rubber instead of foam to hold the driver, like paradigm and mirage and even if it's torn on the rubber edges it wont get fucked, happened to my monitor 7's. But tweeters are the real nightmare, all the ferrofluid shit like energy 22's are fucked en mass because of it drying out and it's like $200 cad + shipping per driver for one guy who fixes them ironically enough most new speakers are just so insanely bad that usually it's still worth gambling on a 40 year old speaker out lasting them, considering companies like klipsch still make The sevens for like $1k and they were all mass failing in a year, or had static hiss because all their trash is made in china now, so depressing
who makes the best speakers? the germans? the brits? the japs?
>>131951839Depends on your personal feeling on how they sound in your space with your music. If you listened to rap with 30hz bass notes then yeah a subwoofer would be essential to get the whole impact of the music, but that is a whole rabbit hole to go down. I personally use oversized speakers and EQ extra bass response into them the same as "smart" speakers do and that's good enough for me.
>>131952907canada use to have api, which was a parent brand for paradigm,energy,mirage and some others that made shit that mogged even 10kilobuck speakers because they had access to state facilities that no other company had access to. But klipsch bought API and ran it into the ground, some of their stuff was pretty wicked. Stereophile had a review from some of the veritas line in the 90s that was said to mog $50k ones, but could be any of those countries really although probably not germans from any anecdotal memorycanada/jp/brits now literally nothing is made in canada though so it would only be for an overall time reference
>>131952944i know psb used to use that giant sound room that some canadian audio science group owned. yeah if you look at the brands and who owns them now its like 2 companies own 90 percent of the well known classic speaker brands.
>>131952963>yeah if you look at the brands and who owns them now its like 2 companies own 90 percent of the well known classic speaker brands.its very unfortunate, quite literally always just ends up ruining them and nothing good ever happensIt's starting to happen to headphones to, beyer sold to the chinks, sennheiser is probably going to get sold again, audeze got bought by sony, akg got bought by samsung purely for manufacturing and then made it a horrible pos waste of timeliterally no one wants to enforce anti trust law anymore so it doesn't matter, just have to hope some new fags some how emerge like dan clark did in the 2010s for headphones, speakers probably impossible with the current market i think klipsch got like 1 year in before they killed energy and mirage which is a real shame considering how unique mirages omni stuff was or energy's high end shit thats impossible to find now
>>131952992>company builds up brand value>owner dies>they drag the company through the mud making cheap shit but make 10x the money before people realize the brand is shit now>make enough to buy another small good quality company with high brand value and do the same thingits an infinite money glitch
>>131952654>maybe they finally spend 10 mins online and realize all audio pros are still using random monitor speakers they liked from the 80s that are only like 2kThat's why I like this fellow so much. He doesn't claim any pretense that his speakers are doing something magical... he just tries to make something that he personally thinks sounds good.
literally all you need
>>131953100>That's why I like this fellow so much. He doesn't claim any pretense that his speakers are doing something magical... he just tries to make something that he personally thinks sounds good.the based boomers get shit on because of how many of the vocal retard ones became caricatures of audio delusion. But the more grounded ones i liked a lot, art dudley's stereophile profile video is worth watching for that reason, guy reviewed like every speaker one could want, still ended up with flamencos because he liked them and his daughters/wife thought they looked cool. He wouldn't even soundproof his room because it would look gay>>131953150i spent a bit trying to find some of yamahas last made in jp monitors and it was like looking for lost media, i cannot buy chinkshit anymore it's always a nightmare. I still have working roland ma 12s that are 30 years old that the previous owner tried to murder and they work perfectly, every chink audio gear i've touched is e waste even when it's new with how bad the qc is let alone longevity. Maybe yamahas is a bit better
>>131953165theres two kind of hifi guy now. the old boomers who want what sound good but also claim some shit that is snake oil, and the militant zoomers who only care about how analytic something is based on statistical measurement. dunno who is right but they always fight
>>131953100this guy made a new speaker company recentlyhttps://jonesandcerreta.com/jones-and-cerreta/
what makes big speakers better than small ones. surely i can just turn the volume up on the small ones and theyd be as loud as the big ones. is it some autism like the rigidity of the cabinet or thickness means less vibration
>>131953276bass extension and bass volume are physically linked to cabinet size
>>131953291If you're going to add a subwoofer, or ideally two, speaker size matters much less. A lot of very expensive speakers are essentially a bookshelf speaker sitting on top of a passive subwoofer.
>>131953220the later is in some form of humiliation ritual where they don't even like music anymore, if they ever did and just treat ASR like it's gospel while listening to music scores they hate. At least the boomers are having fun even if it's just blowing money on vinyls and overpriced tubesIt's so weird how it all essentially came from one garbage website from a man who was personally fired by bill gates for being a total retard, now larps like an audio expert while pushing his audience into chinkshit because of graphs/(clear bribes to certain companies)funny seeing the two go at eachother when it's literally father and son, the son seething about his dads snake oil, while the kid repeats gospel about his harman 2019 ie target eq'd iems that hurt his ears why can't people just be happy and enjoy the music, i thought that was the whole point after all
GR research or audio science review?
>>131953276compare a loud mouse to a loud bear
decent amplifier for under 200 shekels?
>>131953276>surely i can just turn the volume up on the small ones and theyd be as loud as the big onesYou can't get loud bass without moving a lot of air. That's limited by the driver surface area multiplied by the maximum displacement ("xmax"). The driver clips if you exceed xmax and either breaks or just sounds like shit. And you can't make the cabinet too small either, because that increases the resonant frequency and if you try to drive it too far below its resonant frequency the efficiency drops to shit and you literally melt the voice coils when you try to play it loud.
I plug my WH1000-XM6 to a soundblaster does that count?
>>131954380>>131954485>>131954519nta but then why do some small speakers sound amazing and some big ones sound shit? ive heard some ones with 5 inch drivers sound way better than ones with 10 inch ones
>>131954648yes
>>131954666quality of production. some people care about what they make, some dont
>>131954666The vast majority of speakers ever manufactured sound like shit because little to no thought was put into their design and/or they are meant for people who refuse to pay more than $20 for them at Wal-Mart.
>>131954666how does a person function without being able to discern such stuff
>my phone only has the sbc bluetooth audio codec aka shit qualityits overai upscaling for audio when
I like my setup
>>131954835kek i use my ps3 as a cd playerits pretty good desu
>>131954835theres something sovlful about the older style displays like the one on the bottom, just comfy looking
>>131954855analog. it's called analog
how do you even find what speakers to buy? do you go to a shop and listen to a bunch? do you watch a/b comparison videos on youtube? do you compare reviews?
>>131955488I started with just buying a cheap speaker that was memed as a budget audiophile speaker by jewtube reviewers then used that as a reference point for other reviews. It worked out well despite many audiophile reviewers being insufferable pretentious cunts.
>>131955511Doesnt that sound like you need to spread the speakers a bit more
Any good headphone recommendations? Looking for something that's good across all frequency ranges and can last a while.Preferably wired but wireless/both also works with how fucking stupid modern tech is.My budget is up to $500 USD.
>>131955899dunno about that anon but mine are about 2m apart. too far away from eachother and the 'image' or whatever you call it falls apart
>>131956211https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FH5QDTBQ/?th=1MEZE AUDIO 105 AERSoundcore Q30audeze maxwelldan clark aeonaudeze lcd 5
>>131956336There's supposed to be in an equilateral triangle made by the speakers (the tweeters specifically when they're on their sides like that) and the listening position, with the speakers pointing directly at the listening position.
>>131947599
>>131956943im more of an isosceles man
>>131954835beauty tapedeck
>>131957196 >cat tree in the same room disgusting
It is kinda weird how must of the music board probably listens to their music on gaming headsets plugged into their pc or bluetooth earbuds
>>131953150how much?
>>131961068you dont need proper gear to listen to k-slop
>>131956211>Any good headphone recommendations? Looking for something that's good across all frequency rangesthe all ranges part probably means you care about bass and then it's basically just planars, so dan clark aeon rt, or lcd 2 used is probably your best bet. If you could stretch a bit more hd 800 doesn't have bad bass, it just doesn't have a lot but nothing images as well with as wide of a soundstage.lcd2/aeon for electronic/pop/rockhd 800 for classical/acoustic/asmrhd 600 are good if you want to spend less, although they don't bass as well as the others but probably the most obvious hyper longevity headphone ever, regardless of price. but not nearly as good for bass as planars, albeit i'd take them over planars in some genres though>>131955488stereophile should have a review on most "good" speakers as far back as the 80s, and used is generally the only thing worth buying from 1980s-mid 2000s anyways. Modern powered speakers are very overpriced considering something as good used and passive can be free-sub $100 regularlyshould generally just brand whore though, japanese brands are only good for their high end imported made in jp and are usually very exp. NA/Eu will have different selections but it'll be maybe 6-10 brands at most, less if it's under $1k>>131961068audio gear perception is the problem. Most normalfags think whatever is expensive on amazon is good, so thats how you end up with people thinking trash anc headphones are peak audio, and they think speakers are boomertech. all advertising to them is apple slop or wireless slop, mono channel wireless speakers or sound bars
What am I looking for in speakers if I want to listen to music at low volumes. I want to lie in bed and fall asleep to gentle new age sounds but I would like clarity.
>>131962371smart speaker next to your bed beaming Wi-Fi 7 into your head all night
>>131962408Nah I'm a sleep talker and a sex dream haver and I would just ask Alexa to do things to me I'd regret.
>>131963253>and I would just ask Alexa to do things to me I'd regretI get you anon
>>131962319>used is generally the only thing worth buying from 1980s-mid 2000s anyways. Modern powered speakers are very overpriced considering something as good used and passivewhat does this mean. only buy used stuff and dont buy speakers with a built in amplifier?
>>131963871>FILE NO LONGER EXISTS
>>131963871>Pioneer CS 99Athose are some weird things. dual tweeters dual midrange and a 15 inch woofer. never seen them before but i looked at my local ebay and theyre over 1k to buy used so must be good
>>131963871whats a cd changer do?
>>131963942>only buy used stuff and dont buy speakers with a built in amplifier?for price/performance yesif you don't want to deal with passive speakers that need external power (amplifier) then buying new powered, but more expensive speakers is still an option. They just tend to be chinkshit filled with qc problems(especially budget ones) but not everywhere is going to have a good used speaker market to buy fromThat's mostly if not entirely for desktop audio though, basically all tower speakers are passive and you would use an amplifier anyways
>>131957196>crocsanon..
