Why did so many people worship this shit like gospel and why did they need music to be p4k approved for them?
>>132061910They didn't. Pitchfork approval was beneficial to artists because corporations and event hosts paid attention to sites like them. Deerhunter, King Khan, Wavves, all the bands and artists that they gave their endorsements to were cutting their teeth on other corcuits for years prior. You are the one who only likes the bands you like because internet daddies (most likely the one that got fired from adult swim) told you what your ideals should be. Most of those being the same bands you liked at 11
peak p4k was an alterntive for cool millennials, rolling stone was for boomers and out of date with the underground and what was hip. P4k was for the new online generation of course p4k fucked it all up by going poptimist and became the same shit rag as rolling stone
These guys never knew what was cool
>>132061910should believe whichever you prefer
>>132061987Sounds like op struck a nerve. Nobody is buying your revisionism fag.
because people are retarded
>>132062173Or you could just not read any of that shit, check out new music yourself, and form your own opinion.
>>132062057>peak p4k was an alternative for millennials trying way too hard to be coolftfy
>>132061987>waaaahh if you don't worship p4k hipster slop like I do you must be a chud who listens to chud music!!!false dichotomy
the vast majority of people on this planet are not intelligent enough to think for themselves. they need to be told what they should like and not like.
>>132061910I was a death metal/grind guy in the 2000s. Hated Bitchfork.
>>132062529I told people this in the Hipster Runoff thread but people erroneously referred to me as a zoomer when I'm 44.
>>132062599reading p4k lists and listening to their records doesn't require any effort at all though, it's the least trying imaginable
>>132061910They didn't. Hipsters claimed to hate hipsterism, which included hating pitchfork. Source: was/am a hipster
>>132063014Ok how is this supposed to be some sort of gotcha though? Not reading p4k and listening to music is even less effort. Are you trying to make the argument that "cool" people are the ones who mindlessly follow trends?
>>132063065not everything is a gotcha anon, I just disagree that pitchfork was for people "trying way too hard to be cool". Classic hipster era p4k really was a good way to discover new music.>Are you trying to make the argument that "cool" people are the ones who mindlessly follow trends?I wasn't but I do believe this.
>>132063076>I wasn't but I do believe this.Weird
>>132063091Why is that weird? "Coolness" signifiers look the same at any particular moment in time, which means most of those people are just copying.
>>132063054What's your top 10 albums of the '20s. I'm curious what p4k era hipsters rate nowadays since p4k stopped being the bible. Or do you just not listen to newer music, I've seen some old hipsters do that
I don't listen to much new music, besides when old bands i liked release something new (except modest mouse's new album, that kind of sucked). The ones i do are all throwback indie (greet death, modern color) or country.
>>132063684This was meant to reply to this >>132063457
>>132061910going from the website made for weird white school shooters whose entire personality consists of "i have amazing taste in music, i swear!!111" to fodder for pop stan wars on xitter is actually really funny
Do you miss their festival?
>>132063335Oh I didn't know we were talking "coolness signifiers". This sounds like a dumb redditor response.
>>132064160Can you spot the 4chan coolness signifiers in your own post here?
>>132061910/mu/ was full of extremely weak-minded people like this >>132061987 who needed their pre-approved slop doled out to them by a curator of 'cool'. It was cringe as fuck yet many /mu/tants long to return to those days.
>>132064263Sry I can't engage with redditor ackshually smart ass shit.
>>132061910>Read review shitting on a rock band>Subtle The 1975 praise thrown in somewhereWhy?
>>132064801Pitchfork is funny. They gave an album a bad review because one of its songs were featured on Dawsons Creek.
>>132064861Thats more reasonable than saying Faggy Healey is a better frontman than... anyone actually.
>>132064310Accurate. It's just sad at this point.
>>132063749>going from the website made for weird white school shooters whose entire personality consists of "i have amazing taste in music, i swear!!111"cool head canon, anon… now consider drinking [pic rel]
>>132062976Anytime I say anything against /mu/core popular opinion here I'm accused of being a broccoli head zoomer who listens to rap or butt rock. I'm 42 and hate rap and butt rock.
important for zooms and alphoids to keep in mind that p4k was especially relevant in the pre-streaming era, when you didn't have infinity music at your fingertips and advanced algorithms serving perfectly calibrated suggestions to you. outlets like p4k were much more necessary back then
>>132064310this whole thread is overly emotional and incoherent. you all are blubbering stupid drunks. that's not what >>132061987 said at all. he said the bands that blew up because of a p4k endorsement were already touring their asses off, and that a positive p4k EP or single review was a form of institutional recognition for the buzz they had already developed organically. p4k came in second to the ground level buzz.in the mid-late 2000s pitchfork was getting scoops about bands from regional scenes and music blogs. a musician could email a song to a music blog back then and get a mini review posted amongst 5 others that day and possibly get some attention for it. that innocent, nearly anonymous, low-stakes ecosystem doesn't exist anymore. there is some of it on instagram, but that's not low stakes enough. a motherfucker's instagram is like what is written on their tombstone. musicians treat that as their permanent record tied directly to their human form social identity. they may as well just output their DNA into an AI that creates music based on their genome it is THAT uncreative and robotic. the way the music industry is so tightly controlled right now, people don't assume creativity and invention. they assume business tactics and marketing moves. the idea that as a society it is galaxy brained to completely throw out written reviews because... someone might agree with what is written? so where the fuck you go from there? okay, back to the regional scenes then, right? oh wait, instagram has undercut all of that and pushed everyone towards the median, the Slop Pile of the bell curve, where nobody even has the language skills to criticize what they are being force fed
>>132069960None of that explains why they mainly promoted a bunch of unlistenable 'experimental' trash while shitting on or just calling everything else mediocre. I guess this is the part where you get to call me a filtered pleb, right?Why don't you all just check out stuff other people with your taste are sharing on soulseek (that's how I used to find a lot of new stuff but on kazaa). Or check out other bands on the same label as stuff you're into. There's so many ways to discover new music. You don't need to read some pretentious faggot review to give you preconceived notions. Sounds like you're just kinda retarded though.
