He's right you know
The real redpill is that it was really bands like the Beach Boys who started this since they were really just making novelty beach music and Hollywood showtune music before journalists tricked everyone into thinking Brian Wilson was some underappreciated auteur
>>132100403The Beach Boys have nothing to do with this, they made the most intricate of pop, just because Brian and Dennis Wilson were kind of wackos doesn't mean they made truly weird or unsettling work
>>132100370“fake weird music” = actual musicianship and conceptualism“true weird music” = just playing the blues inside out while babbling about fishGot it.
>>132100370We got a little wannabe music historian over here
>>132100370Zappavirgins are gonna hate this post lol
>>132100370trve cult faggots are everywhere
It's just music. It's not good, but oh well.
>>132100370Both Zappa and beefheart suck ass and so does latrine de poutine. Primus is alright I guess
>>132100370I like this theory. I now subscribe to this theory. The fact they had to drop a new member to keep things fresh after the joke naturally ran its course, just furthers their fake weird music lineage. Expanding their character universe is some real fake interesting nonsense for their gimmick music/band.
>>132100370I can name bands from both lineages that I enjoy. Also there's cases like The Butthole Surfers and Ween that made some meme weird and some genuinely weird music.
yeah so safe weird vs actual weird
Where do bands like They Might Be Giants or Barenaked Ladies fit into this lineage?
>>132101198if the residents and gwar did it there's nothing stoping them
>>132100370The Zappa lineage: Funkadelic, Adrien Belew, RHCP, Phish, Mike Patton, Primus, System Of A Down, King Gizzard, AdeP, The Beefheart lineage: VDGG, This Heat, Throbbing Gristle, Jon Lydon, Foetus, The Fall, Mark Mothersbough, Sun City Girls, John Prine, Gang Of Four, Andy Partridge, Elephant 6, Fat White Family,The ones caught in between: Daevid Allen, Faust, Can, Butthole Surfers, Ween, John Dwyer/Thee Oh Sees, Ty SegallI am sure I am missing a bunch across all of these.
>>132101404Good post
>>132101314Totally accessible, slightly gimmicky rock acts. And thats not even a bad thing, I like TMBG
>>132101314I think they're both more nerdy than weird.
>>132101413>>132101418What about someone like Neil Cicierega or Jack Stauber?
>>132101425Cicierega belongs in the Zappa camp.
>>132101425YouTube music
>>132100370its not fake wierd music and you are a massive faggot retard if you cant understand that
>>132101469>cleavageYou think you're clever nigga.
why do captain beefheart fans keep trying to cause a rift between themselves and zappa fans? they were bros and you should appreciate both
>>132101657TMR wouldn't exist without Zappa's help
>>132101404would you say that Chrome/Helios Creed and Pere Ubu fall into the true weird or inbetweener categories?>>132101657as the saying goes, Frank Zappa wished he could pretend to be half as bizarre as Don Van Vliet actually was
Why do people always forget the Residents?
>>132101182Nah, Beefheart is actually good. Clearspot is a great album.
>>132100370Where does Gary Wilson fall?https://youtu.be/jW3odf94Ehk
>>132100370Safe as Milk isn't really that weird desu
yeah. But primus made songs not just microtonal riffs
Zappa causes so much butthurt among plebs even from beyond the grave
>>132101657>you should appreciate bothWhy?
Zappa and Beefheart were longtime collaborators. Why does everything need to be turned into culture war slop
>>132100443>doesn't mean they made truly weird or unsettling workbitch have you ever listened to smiley smile
>>132103513We're talking about weird music here
>>132103534so you indeed haven't listened to smiley smile, got it.
>>132103564Listen to more music
>>132101314They Might Be Giants are definitely inspired by Zappa, but apparently the bigger influenced to both Johns is The Residents, which is often more obvious in their shorter songs. Door to Door Minotaur is even a direct tribute to Hardy Fox.
>>132101657I do. I think Pere Ubu belongs with the inbetweener category and I am not very familiar with Chrome/HC.
>>132102203>>132104351
>>132103345Theyre both great for their own reasons and you should have better things to do than engage in console wars
>>132100370Fake weird = whatever I dislikeTrue weird = whatever I likeGet fucked
>>132101198he cute
>>132104388Seethe. Zappa is proto-reddit
