>what if...you took shoegaze and gave it actual melody and structure instead of just vibes?
Nobody knows what the fuck shoegaze even is.
>>132132209>what if you took shoegaze and replaced the dreamy ethereal vocals with the most obnoxious singing voice in music history
>>132132242Billy should have brought in his ex-bandmate Wayne Static
I love siamese dream but most great shoegaze albums have at least 2 tracks that fit that mold like when you sleep on loveless>>132132221Music fans do
its called dreampop actually and your wrong
>>132132221dream pop + noise rocktake a regular indie band, give them a lot of pedals and tell them to make whatever they were making but more ambient
>>132132209if you want more "rock" oriented shoegaze ride, catherine wheel, and swervedriver provide that. smashing pumpkins have a few tracks close to shoegaze (cherub rock, mayonnaise, rocket) but mostly arent (bullet with butterfly wings, today, 1979, disarm, tonight tonight and other big hits arent shoegaze)
>>132135539In other words, Siamese Dream is more shoegazey, Melon Collie and Ava Adore are not
>>132132209Truthnvke
>>132135552>Ava AdoreI meant Adore wahtever jesus im getting old and retarded
>>132132242it just werks
>>132132209He was directly admittedly influenced by MBV and hired the same mixer Alan Moulder
>>132132209yeah it’s the best rock album of the 90s.
>>132132209The UK shoegaze bands had good melodies. The problem was more the mixing with harsh noise and the vocals being buried. SP's vocals were more upfront and the mixing was cleaner even with similar fx
>>132132221Kys boomer. Everyone born after 1970 knows exactly what shoegaze is
>>132132624It's shoegaze mixed with grunge. Don't you feel stupid>>132135539Also Souvlaki by Slowdive
>>132135701Never heard or thought of this before, interestingMakes me think about how Adam Franklin is such a good songwriter and has great melodies and voice but Mezcal Head’s production sounds somehow slightly harsh but also weak to me and the vocals are buried. Their later stuff sounds better mixed and produced in general and his voice is way more forwardThey put out some remasters recently that I liked
>>132135752grunge is not real. Siamese dream is boston, queen, black sabbath meets mbv
>>132132221Zoomers don't, they make post White Pony Deftones rock music then claim they love and are heavily influenced by MBVthey couldn't do proper glide guitar playing if a Kevin Shields taught it to them personally
>>132132624dream pop leans more soft indie (Slowdive)shoegaze is more agressive (Ride)
>>132135552that's true, weird that he lumped Today into the non-shoegaze category, it's like if the Pixies made a shoegaze song
>>132135877People forget that Billy often touts how he was never punk unlike all the Seattle bands and wanted to be like a 70s arena rock band that was also into late 70s-80s British post-punk and goth music which is all the blueprint for what birthed shoegaze
>>132135701It's the literal same mixer which you could have read 2 comments up
>>132135746>Everyone born after 1970 knows exactly what shoegaze isDid a game with some buds (All born in the early 2000's) and the rules for the round was you have to name a music genre with a random chosen letterThe letter I got was S, so I chose "Shoegaze". Literally nobody at the table knew what the fuck it was and thought I just made it up to try and win
>>132135891i thought dream pop was like cocteau twins and shoegaze was like mbv
>>132135539today kinda is. bullet and 1979 arent i agree
Corgan's wall-of-sound guitar is all over his SP 1.0 albums it's not just specifically in SD. i find Machina era to be more shoegazy over SD
>>132136296That's a fine comparison too. Ride are children of both but definitely 'rock' harder vs Slowdive just sounds like making more precious/approachable Cocteau.
>>132132221posting ancient general copy pastaArchived Threads:>https://desuarchive.org/mu/search/text/%2FShugazi%2F/type/op/Welcome to /shugazi/. This thread is dedicated to the discussion of Shoegaze, Dream Pop, Noise Pop, Blackgaze and other sub-genres. Slowcore, Twee Pop and Ethereal Wave welcome as well. Come discuss your favorite albums/artists, explore new things and banter with your fellow shoegazers. As always, shilling collection playlist to spread the fuzz: https://open.spotify.com/user/comfydaddy/playlist/1HkipeBXaIwCyq8rYL7gio?si=W7OCyoaZT4-enI193IQVyw>What are you guys currently listening to? I'm listening to Clinic Stars - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hC-9-WisUzE Infograph Charts/Genre Maps: https://imgur.com/a/ndMU0>BEAUTIFUL NOISE (2014) early days shoegaze documentary (Cocteau Twins, JAMC, MBV, AR Kane, Ride, Slowdive, Medicine, Pale Saints, Chapterhouse, Lush, Seefeel, Curve, Swervedriver) https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=YlvmTp6-SwU >DKFM Shoegaze Radio – over a decade of actively supporting the shoegaze scene.https://decayfm.com/featured/about-2/>When the Sun HitsGood blog resource with underground interviews (sadly seems inactive since 2020, but still partnered with DKFM)https://whenthesunhitsblog.blogspot.com/>CrushingDreams YT channel (backup) – many Korean/Japanese indie album full uploads https://www.youtube.com/c/BlueNoizer>Eastern European (RIP Asian) shoegaze YT channels. Tons of fully uploaded projectshttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UClvBbCbZpVolZHWqnLasVYA/featured>International Dream Pop//Shoegaze YouTube Compilationshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBAnse49Su4&list=PLfWkhCjby8slcQ0L7grx6D0PujNqRkTfa [Embed]>Light From a Dead Star – everything you could possibly want to know about Lush or Miki Berenyihttps://www.lightfromadeadstar.org/index.htmLink to least cringe, mostly on-topic anon discord: https://discord.gg/UMBkgys
>>132132209their best shoegaze song is real love from the machina erahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDC2ofpK3EM
>>132132242It's an improvement
>>132132209I'm not even a Corgan dicksuck but that's just true
>>132138048>curious about how real love would sound in the 2025 remixed version>it's not on youtube yetoh well soulseek it is, honestly good song though but the vacuum cleaner sound can be a bit too much
