I want to strangle every single big buck roadie fred and especially every single downhill-bike-in-a-park pomp who rides around just to do chainsaw sounds with their bicycle's very very expensive hub. "Give way, the asshole is coming!". Like, if you wanna make motorcycle sounds, get an actual motorcycle. A Harley actually sounds cool. A freewheeling bicycle sounds supremely annoying, and also means you are a weak shit who is not pedalling. Fuck you, go ride into a river.
just turn off the 'tism
counterpoint, when around normies and NPCs, loud freehub buzzing are the least hated way to make your presence known so you can pass without some idiot flinging himself into your spokes or getting spooked and crashing. maybe if you live in japan bell ringing is socially acceptable but here people will act like you just shot at them with a gunp.s. if you weren't so damm slow I wouldn't have to make ratchet sounds to not spook you into crashing noob ;-) but this is not a race so don't worry *downshifts and leaves you in the dust*
>>2031782cry about it, bitch
>meanwhile>super silent fixie>passes you without warning>scares your dog>risky line? "Can't stop won't stop lol"
>>2031784Bell ringing is acceptable everywhere if you need to make your prescense known for safety. And unlike a freehub, you can just not use it if you can go around them safely. They will act surprised and look for the source of the sound, that is entirely expected and even desirable behaviour.Loud freehub is also percieved as being shot with a gun. Except it's a minigun. >>2031789Oh, the pomps will overtake you in silent mode too, because they have to pedal to speed up (duh). And only after they've brushed handlebars with you and cut you off, they will engage the gatling again just to rub it in. It's a license to be annoying, and they are using it to the max.Coincidentally, I've seen one of these who had no front brake on a train. I asked him why, he said "aesthetics bro, look how clean it looks!".
>>2031792anon, onyx freehubs are some of the most expensive you can gethttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbvNPLsc7fM
>>2031794I might've screwed up my terminology, but you got my point.These Onyx guys are cool. I wonder why we don't see more hubs like that. Maybe it's because they don't loudly announce your very expensive purchase to the plebs around you.
>>2031796more complicated to service, weight, production cost, and the silencing of coasting noise is more of a side effect of zero-engagement rather than something anybody was actually asking for. ratcheting is one of the more innocuous sounds next to brake squeal and whatever else, and getting triggered by the sound of a ratchet is weird and you are weirdalso somewhere I read that there is an esoteric situation where you want at least a couple of degrees of free play for the drivetrain to work properly but I don't remember the explanation
I hate the sound. my old bikes have a new shimano freewheel and an old Shimano 105 freehub, and both are silent. the freehub moreso.if I need to pass someone, I have a bell on one bike but mostly I just say "I'm comin' around you!" and then the people understand that I'm going to pass them on the left, since I'm in North America.saying "on your left" to a normie pedestrian just confuses them and they're just as likely to go left.using your buzz saw sound effects is super gay. a freehub functions perfectly without the sound, getting a loud one to signal your presence just annoys everyone and signals that you're too autistic to actually interact with the general public.
>>2031808>I'm comin' around you!affected folksy talk is cringe
>>2031808For me? it's "On yer left" or just whizzing by depending on the situation.I go slow around peds, medium-slow for runners, and medium speed around cyclists.I learned a while ago I need to be very careful passing people.Yup, old shimano hubs are the best for quiet freehubs, and of course freewheels can be quiet if you use oil or grease.Heck, you can quiet ratchet systems down with grease as well. DT swiss sells specific grease for that.
>>2031782HEY KIDDO WATCH OUT, BIG BOYS COMING THRUBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzNothing personel little one.
>>2031803Sound of a regular bicycle ratchet is fine. But sound of an expensive ratchet is both much higher pitch and much higher volume.
>>2031834personal*fucking retard.
i remeber buying a buzzy freewheel for my bmx as a kid i guess some people dont grow up
>>2031810well, I live in the south, I'm not really affecting anything. it works every time, whereas on your left doesn't, so folksy wins
>>2031841what's an "expensive ratchet" because on 4chan it seems like anything that costs more than $50 is overpriced MAMIL poseur shit for racers, but on the other hand anything less than $25000 is poverty loser tier so we need numbers here thanks
My ZIPPS cost $150 used and they are insanely obnoxious it's training me to never coast
>>2031882>never coast because your hubs are so loudIt's A MINDSET
>>2031782>A Harley actually sounds cool.Opinions discarded.
>>2031882the other solution i found was riding with poeple who had even worse chinacarbon angry bees than my zipps then i couldn't even hear it
>>2031886Stand next to one. You can feel the burble in your chest. It's not a pleasant sound, but it's certainly a cool sound. Bees are less pleasant and infinitely less cool.
>>2031882I have zipps too and I don't think they're that loud. they're a little louder than some generic garbage wheels I had back in the day on a cheap bike, they're about the same as my old mavics, and they are a hell of a lot quieter than chris bling. I think a lot of the complaining about loud hubs is just overactive imaginations coupled with the usual unracer seethe about nice things
>>2031893this is the only way a loud motor should sound likehttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/4wk8v5MwU7Qharleys just sound like they're broken, nothing cool about that
Silent hubs are the best hubs. Fancy ones reverberate the hollow plastic "carbon" tubes in an unpleasant way
>>2031895>generic tractor soundnahhttps://youtu.be/XxxP_Mr3fyI?si=zY-gfUnGPLXh5ZKr&t=21This is what ya needhttps://youtu.be/z7Cd_vYMD-M?si=E5siyrTYeebtuQs3&t=39
>>2031808>old Shimano 105 freehubI have a 2019 era 105 freehub and I love it. It's not silent but it's super quiet.I ride with a friendly sounding bell to not scare people. But I ride on the road so most of the time it's just to say hi to people I know
>>2031897how are people still salty over the existence of carbon bike parts like it's an exclusive status symbol designed to make them feel poor? you can buy this shit on temu for $1
>>2031784>spook people with your bellI WISHInstead half the pedestrian population is wearing noise-cancelling headphones and earbuds and won't even hear your bell over the sound of "Tyrone giving you and your wife's boyfriend a sensual massage ASMR".Headphones are okay because at least you can see them and know in advance you have to be careful around someone who is effectively deaf. Noise cancelling buds are worse.Though by far the worst are middle aged white women putting their hoods with faux-fur over their heads while using headphones, getting some triple dampening on any noise around them. These are the true menace, the ones who go EEEEP if you pass one meter away from them or more and will then complain about irresponsible cyclists snaking everyone on shared parts of the road.
>>2031782Don't you know Bad Boys move in silence and violence, OP?
>>2034492and they walk on the bike lanes too, like they are the kings of the roadif i encounter one that doesn't move off the lane after a couple bells, i slow down and trail them while ringing it repeatedly to annoy them into submissioni could go around, but it's a matter of principle
nah i like the ZZZZZZzZZZzZZZzZZ peds can fuck off out of my way bells do not work. it takes at least 3 business days for people to move even if they do hear you. hub has a higher chance of making them shit themselves and actually move in my experience
>>2031782Mine is really inexpensive (formula) and still sounds pretty loud; just fucking move to a farm if you don't like it, then you can enjoy actual chainsaws.
>>2031782this kind of resentment isn't healthy anon. nobody buys a wheelset just because it's loud in order to annoy you, they don't come with a noise label.
>>20318814° of engagement or less.
I saw a youtube where the guy was talking about how a shimano hub doesn't sound bad unlike some other hubsis there really a contingent of presumably unracers who get angry at the sound of high POE hubs?
>>2031782who hurt you?
>>2038728Freds ruined my quiet, picturesque morning jogs with their chainsaw sounds.
>>2038841I can just blast past you without warning if you prefer, I thought you people wanted some warning though
all I know is that when I drive a large food truck that roadies on expensive s works, cervelo etc. road bikes they are the absolute most retarded bike users on the road and have zero self preservation, if it wasn't for kind passerbys I would have killed at least one by now when they ride directly behind my truck as I am backing up
>>2038842Or you can, you know, keep a safe distance. Or slow down and use a bell to denote your prescense to pedestrians in areas where safe passage is impossible. Or you can indeed be conveninently fucking annoying- you can't even be called out for it, all you did is buy the newest and greatest bike for maximum money, it's the manufacturers who are at fault for making such loud ratchets.
cheap ones sound just right very comfy
>>2031782What I don't get is how THEY tolerate it. coasting down a nice long hill in the woods is supposed to be nice, seems like these would be a good way to ruin that completely>inb4 never coastyes yes, we all hate fun
When I was a kid a loud hub was associated with poor quality, neglected maintenance or both.Funny how things change.
>>2040408>coasting down a hillI've been stuck behind slows too, the ratchet sound alerts them that they're in my way
>>2040416Fuck i HATE that. I just want to have a nice ride and theres always some assholes that feel the need to coast behind me in an obnoxious way. Like they're silently telling me to fuck of or something. ITS NOT A RACE YOU IDIOTS
>>2040468what am I supposed to do? if I say "on your left" you get mad. if I pass while pedaling in silence you get mad. you say it's not a race but you're awfully invested in making sure nobody makes you feel slow
>>2040473Just use your bell? But dont just coast behind people. Its scary and its making me nervous
>>2040479can't help you with that, you just need to ride more. someone coming up behind you and passing (while making a considerable amount of noise for your benefit) shouldn't cause you to have a rage aneurysm and crash
>>2031782I like the buzzing sound makes people aware you are near them, before using the bell ringing no one cared and bitches looked weird at me. Now they look at me with fear hearing the zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz roar
>>2031808>I'M CUMMING BEHIND YOOOOUU
Guy whose front wheel alone cost more than your bike here. I went through a tunnel recently and I heard my wheels as a stranger would hear them. Wow they really are quite a musical symphony! I envy those who get to hear my hubs as they were meant to be enjoyed
>>2031845Personnel
>>2041018it's not hard to replicateget a bike stand and a drill stand, put the drill chuck against the wheel, ziptie the trigger on the drill and you get to hear the ratcheting sound all day longbe sure to leave it working for extended periods of time, and especially during bedtime, it's really good for your sleep
>>2031803Literally bazillion $10 coaster hubs out there use the same tech as Onyx does.
why don't they make front hubs with freewheels? to always make the noise
is this a thinly veiled attempt to bring back the fixie trend?
>>2041656it's just a bunch of salty neets being mad that nice wheels exist
>>2041670nice google image search pic, let's see your onyx wheels
>>2041660>nice wheelsYou can have those "nice wheel" sounds with cheap chinese hubs nowadays, and you can have quiet sounds with high quality wheels (even if they have the sound, if you lube the pawls to dampen it). It's not about nice wheels anymore, it's 100% about how annoying you want to be today. If you're an ass, you'll engage buzzsaws, to the detriment of everyone including, crucially, yourself. If you're a reasonable human being, you'll go quiet. Which one are you?
>>2041674Obviously not a reasonable human being because I don't care about upsetting some salty NEET. 95% of my buzz saw time is because I got stuck behind a slow (You), so maybe if you want to hear less of me you could stop being slow.
"I would totally get only the most silent wheels if I had money" is the wheel version of "I would totally get a high end steel bike if I had money", easy to say until having any nice thing you want is actually within reach and all of a sudden you get amnesia and I see you reaching for the carbon frame and the buzz saw wheels, curious! it's almost like there's a reason these things are chosen by most people!
>>2041675See, at least you admitted it yourself. It is your conscious choice to be an ass, should've started with that. Now, as per OP post, go ride into a river.
>>2041677first post your onyx wheels
>>2041679Not that poster. I ride on old Deore hubs, lubed to go from quiet to near silent. Good shit from times long gone.
>>2041680I've heard nice things about shimano hubs but the rims are too narrow, the engagement angle is excessive, and the hubs on their own aren't exactly something you can just buy at any LBS, they need to step up their game if they want anyone outside of pro teams using their shit as an upgradeif the bike came with the wheels or you got a great deal, that's another story
>>2031782I never got the appeal of loud hubs. BMX and DJs are the worst.
>>2041676Shimano hubs, excluding some higher en models, are quite silent, up to being almost stealthy. I just built a wheel on fh-m495 hub, costing $12, and it makes almost no sound.Also, 95% of bike 'high end' is for old men to have a place to dump their money. An equivalent of cosmetics for women.
>>2041681Engagement is a meme.
>>2041997It's not a meme when you are doing technical MTB stuff where applying power is an element of control, but on a road? 100% meme.
>>2042036Someones reasoning probably goes like>tdf races are decided by fractions of a second>wasting that same fraction of a second before engagement when coming onto the finish line must translate to being the 2nd guy then (thats obviously the idiocy)>muh super fine engagement is essential to performancealso the same guy>places 7th at the local hillclimb, crit race or whatever
My entry level mtb hub had shit engagement and it felt really bad, the whole frame would ring like a bell when the slack got taken up
>>2042038>>2041997I have to ratchet my road bike through gridlock traffic and along narrow bridge paths with a bunch of switchbacks, not everyone's road bike experience consists of driving it out to the road bike park and riding in a straight line at full power for hours. inb4 "but you can get by with less" guy, yeah, I can, I don't need 28mm wide rims, I don't need 45mm deep rims, I don't need light weight, I don't need stiffness, I don't need a bike desu, just throw me in a concrete cell, I need gruel and water and vitamin pills to survive, but it's an unnecessary hobby and I like to enjoy myself and the enjoyment can be improved with better equipment, sorry if that gives you sour grapes
>>2042040sounds like you're just trying to larp as danny mcaskill, do you think you're good at riding an mtb because if you think that it means you are a fool who won't win the local race, I can't afford nice things so you suck and should diet. /n/
>>2042040I had a 7-speed Nexus with like half a pedal stroke of engagement once. You just keep pedalling.
>>2031782>Expensive Mines are Formula and you can seethe and cope more
>>2042892Sure thing, Abdul.
>>2042999Lmao; kids, these days...
>clik clonk click clonk clik clonk
>>2042040is that why my entry level alloy frame tiagra bike rings like a bell all the time? I normally ride a plastic bike with fred wheels and I never think about it but when I'm on my vacation bike it's bongs like the london bell thing
>>2045623Could be. My road bike is alu and doesn’t do this shit it only happened on that bike with the ass hub
Got some new wheels with a loud-ass freehub. Hated it at first but I'll be damned if the pedestriniggers don't get out of the way a lot faster and more reliably than they used to.
>>2046211Why does it seem most of /n/ lives in a weirs place where people walk on the roads?And if it ever were so show some respect and slow down for the pedestrian and go once they're off the road or whatever.
>>2046223I don't know where (you) live but if it has no buffer areas or parts with ambiguous signing resulting with pedestrians on the bike path, then I really want to go there. No town where I've lived don't have at least a few spots like this where merging paths result in pedestrians being on a bike path that's crossing their area without markings, or shared crossings with unclear merging areas. It just happens.That said, no, I will not show respect to the guy just sitting on the bike path waiting to cross the road instead of doing that at the light and zebra crossing 15 meters away. FUCK this guy. I WILL ring my bell, several time, and do some angry hand gestures as I pass him by.FUCK THIS GUY.
>>2046272>bike pathalmost no such degeneracy here yet. But the motorists are pushing for it unfortunately. So it will happen.
>>2046281carniggers can't hear your loud hub btw, cage filters out high frequencies that your beehive produces
>>2040479bells are gay and so are you lol
>>2049344t. attention-seeking raging faggot with a partner-attracting buzzhub on his bicycle
>>2046316I'm confused.My >>2046281 hub is entirely silent.This >>2046316 is factually 100%/correct but how does it relate and why the (You)?
How do you make them quieter? I had this old ass shimano 600 hub wheelset and it was nice and quiet, then I bought a pair of koozer rs1400 and these boyz are loud as hell. I dumped some thick grease into the hub, it helped for like 10 revolutions and then it went back to BZZZZZZZT.
you guys actually pedal downhill?coasting downhill is the best part
>>2049377based cruizerI just cant help myself I need to stay workingy I need to be fast, even when I try to go somewhere unsweaty and slow it just works as long as I consciously remind myself, few minutes in the ride it's all forgotten and gas gas gas.
>>2049380>and gas gas gas.Based racist.
>>2045613imagine rolling slow enough for those to workcould not be me
>>2049360specialty thin grease
>>2049360spray on some of that anti-vibration spray on the hub shell
>>2049377I get into top gear and if the hill is steep/long enough for me to spin out then I stand on the pedals and make my body the most aero, then I coast. I might just coast around at any time when I'm putzing around, or if I want to go hands-free for fun, but when I'm concentrating that's what I do.
>>2031782on my bike the brakes are what gets people to notice me. because they are discs they make an extremely loud squeal on the lightest usage and unlike when using the bell people will actually panic jump to the side instead of in front
For pedestrians on paths I usually just unclip and clip in again, or hit the gravel for a second if there's some available.>>2049377Why wouldn't you want to go faster?
I completely agree. That’s why I paid extra for campy wheels with pleasantly quiet hubs.
>>2052732personally i would find it disturbing if the mechanics were loud. are those things even lubricated how the hell do they rattle like that and will they break down because of tard design in the middle of a deep forest
>>2052689If you've never been on a bike that fits you, that's mechanically sound, and that's got the geometry (and brakes) for speed, you'll get nervous above 20mph or so and terrified above 30. I feel sorry for unracers who have never pedaled at highway speeds on a bicycle
>>2052751its less about the bike and more about you having to be a skeleton
>>2052779Skeleton to do what? Want to go fast or want to go slow?
>>2052780yeah they don't make bikes of steel anymore so they are not durable and will not feel great at high speeds
>>2052782listen there is literally nothing to be ashamed of if you don't have a lot of money, the world is not in a good place right now, but come on man, they do make new high end steel bikes, you just can't afford them so instead you tell yourself that your dumpster dive bike co-op parts build is better than the latest domane. this is an understandable cope but it's still a copeweight distribution and wheelbase are the biggest contributors to the sense of stability at high speed. if you're sitting completely upright with all your weight towards the rear wheel, descending is going to feel pretty dangerous. conversely, descending in a full aero tuck may not feel "right" if you're not accustomed to it, but it has a stability advantage in addition to the more recognized aerodynamic advantagenone of this has anything to do with frame material, though frame material can be influenced by intended use case and intended use case certainly has something to do with the geometry and its effects on handling
>>2052779If you just want to rip around challenging nobody but yourself, you can be pretty much any size as long as you can put some power down. If you're lacking in power, just pedal harder, do squats and leg lifts, and have patience.Weight helps on the downhill anyway. I'm considered slightly overweight for a cyclist both in muscle and fat, but that's because I don't want to be a skeleton. Cycling doesn't entirely define me as a person to the point that I strive to have the best body I can possibly have for cycling, I have other hobbies and like being capable of lifting heavy things or rowing. But doing 120 down a big hill feels good. Although I can't do that with my current gearing, I spin out around 105 with a 44T ring.All that being said, I do agree that coasting down hills (especially on winding roads) is super comfy. At least some intermittent hard pedaling is recommended though, perhaps just coasting on the corners, because going 100 is more fun than going 75.
>>2052784yeah but the fanciest bikes tend to be rated for something crazy like just 70ish kg. even if it doesn't break on flat road i'd be scared on normal roads as high speeds amplify any impact. brakes also can't keep up with the freaky speeds of such downhill racing and im confident they too have some low weight rating seeing how a brake i had issues with was working perfectly fine when the store guy tried it
>>2052785>fanciestWhy would you care about that? I'm just riding a 1x11 aluminum Kona JTS with a carbon fork and mechanical disc brakes. Speedbumps are ramps as far as I'm concerned. It's a smooth and solid ride, especially with 28-32mm tires.
>>2052787i wish my bike had brakes. front is so worn it just makes a loud noise but no braking power and back kinda works but it also was always the bad brake so only natural that its not worn out
