"Wofür ist das?"-EditionAnything public transport in German-speaking Europe is fair game.
https://www.rnz.de/region/regionalticker/polizeiberichte_artikel,-MannheimHeidelberg-Zug-verliert-bei-voller-Fahrt-eine-Tuer-Update-plus-Video-_arid,1526469.htmlWelche Baureihe ist das?
>>2035896That is a cheap elongation of the useful length of the table. You can place a newspaper on it so it doesn't fold at the bottom or a laptop computer (lower end of the base on the metal pipe, upper end on the table) and use the space behind it.>>2036125Bombardier Talent 2, BR442 in the grey, black and yellow "BeWegt" livery.
>>2036141>BR442Thanks.>yellow "BeWegt" liveryYou certainly wouldn't want to have stood on that platform.
sometimes i lean on those doors on my commute and fantasize about one of them breaking and sucking me out and the train turning me into a gnarly mess of flesh and bloodi knew someone who joined DB as a conductor then one hot summer day on the job she probably passed out on the platform, slipping between the platform and the train as it started to roll, immediately and gruesomely killing her. she left her husband and a then 7yo kid. sad way to go.
you might laugh at the video in OP, but it took me a while to find out that you pull the table towards you in the ICE 4 trains.In other news, if you want to buy your own ICE, DB is selling their BR406 train sets. a couple of them still have the logo of the Nederlandse Spoorwegen on them, even after they sold them to DB. I just saw one in Frankfurt today on its way to the Ruhrpott joined with a normal ICE 3 BR403. I like the OG black info screens that they still have.
Took the train to Germany last weekend. On the way there it was an SBB GmbH service, but it was crowded like a sardine can. Awful.On the way back it was a DB train. Really dirty inside and outside. Aren't german trains ever cleaned?The end.
>>2036195sure but the cleaning units are chronically understaffed. finding people willing to do those kinds of jobs is tough.
>>2036199Yeah who wants to clean shit for the minimum wage.
>>2036165>BR406Which series is that? I can never keep the ICE 3s apart.
>>2036237it's the international version of the original ICE 3 with multisystem capabilities. they ran on the Frankfurt - Amsterdam and Frankfurt - Brussels lines and originally to Paris as well. the constant switching between different current systems wore down the electrical components and made the BR406 really unreliable.
>>2036199Take the benefits away from lazy migrants and they'll find people.
the fucking tomato juice is the cheapest beverage in the ICE Bordbistro lol.
>>2036624>They should [...] have people on both ends to catch these niggers.I have seen that happen on RRX once or twice, but it's really not a common occurrence, that they do that.At the moment there is ZERO reason to schwarzfahren in Germany.You WILL get caught at least once a month and have paid more than the regular fare with that.The monthly chunk of social security earmarked for mobility is higher than the price of a D-ticket.Anyone, that at this point intentionally skips the fare is pure evil. Take them to court!
>>2036637>Take them to court!At this point in Germany the court case would either be simply dismissed or the poor hard working skilled workers would get a D-Ticket for a year for free to be able to go after their legitimate business. Also the ticket controller who caught them would get a 1500€ fine and a year in prison for racism.
Where were you when DSO died?I was out photographing train when friend call"DSO is kill""No"
>>2037205who knew it ran on the same IT infrastructure as Deutsche Bahn.
>>2037205At least they got a "maintenance" screen in front of that mess now.It's in a better state than the 4chins of old with its MYSQL ERROR:...s.>>2037206Well, the more recent troubles with DB's IT are different in nature: >>>/wsg/5841512
what do you guys think about westbahn expanding down to graz? i like westbahn more than obb so im pretty stoked
>>2037205>Wegen eines Problems mit den Foren, bleiben diese bis auf Weiteres außer Betrieb.>Einen Termin für die Wiederinbetriebnahme können wir nicht nennen.What happen? A hack or a spontaneous self-combustion?
>>2037348Wonder how they will do with 3 Girunos running a schedule for 3 trains without any reserve. And they can't dig up a spare 1144+Cityshuttle somewhere, like ÖBB did so far.
>>2037348the comfort plus seats are 1st class seats being in use by SBB. that's clearly the choice for Klimaticket owners instead of suffering in the Railjets.>>2037357I hated beta testing the Giruni as passenger, but they seem to run reliably now. they could ask SBB to lease a train, but on the other hand SBB and ÖBB are working together as state owned operators.makes me wonder if they keep the trains when the Semmeringtunnel opens. they could do cross-border services like Vienna - Venice or Vienna - Munich - Zürich/Frankfurt.
>2nd ring line with Elbquerung to Finkenwerder>looong U5>Geesthacht gets 3 connectionsngl, that would be pretty cool. unrealistic sadly
>>2037820ring line sounds nice. something Bavarians couldn't come up with in Munich.
>>2037916the Munich S/U-Bahn network would have so much potential if it didn't have the shape of a starfish. and the planned 2nd S-Bahn trunk line won't make it any better. at least they have a tram network to compensate for lacking cross connections.Hamburg has an (underdimensioned) ring line with the U3, but no tram. we'd have first class transit with a larger ring line and a tram network. but for now, Berlin has Munich & Hamburg beat despite being the poorest of the three cities
>>2037102what a braindead unreality post
Die DB hat, was Reisendeninformationen angeht, nun einen "Single Point of Truth":https://www.heise.de/news/Prognoseautomat-Wie-KI-die-Reiseinformation-bei-der-Bahn-verbessern-soll-10343289.htmlBald also vielleicht nicht mehr abweichende Informationen auf Zugzielanzeiger und in der Äpp? Wäre ein Fortschritt.Wobei ich hoffe, dass dieser "Single Point of Truth" in einer verteilten Art und Weise gestaltet ist, sodass die Ausfallsicherheit gewahrt bleibt.
What's your favorite CHAD transport company acronym? For me it's VAG (Nürnberg/Fürth) and FART (Locarno).
>>2038917DING and bodo are pretty ebin
>>2038917For Nürnberg it's actually VGN although that admittedly doesn't make much of a difference
Seit heute:https://news.sbb.ch/medien/artikel/113076/einzelne-verbindungen-von-und-nach-deutschland-mit-umsteigenDie EuroCity 7 und 9 enden ab sofort in Basel.Die Züge in Gegenrichtung (EC6 und EC8) verkehren auf ganzer Länge.
Weeks later I realize that I mixed things up:VAG is the Nuremberg transit companyVGN is the regional transit authority
>>2039200Common germ L
>>2039200this is just official now, in reality the majority of these trains arrived late in Basel and ended there. that was my experience when I used the EC 8 all the way from Hamburg in the panorama coach. a couple of weeks ago on a Saturday I caught the EC 6 within Switzerland. as it arrived late, it was used on the IC6 service and continued to Domodossola, Italy instead of Interlaken. the train itself arrived really dirty as it transported lots of football fans earlier (the train goes via Münster-Dortmund-Düsseldorf-Köln, go figure). all that wasted Flaschenpfand on the beer bottles, one could buy another train ticket.I can't count how many times my ICE ended prematurely in Basel Badischer Bahnhof instead of Basel SBB, which really sucks in the evening, when you want to catch one of the remaining trains to the rest of Switzerland.
Frage an die Ösis an der Stelle: Ist die Westbahn besser?(Für den Fall, dass es mal wieder nach Wien gehen sollte.)
In other news: If railways don't start upping their autonomous driving game, freight rail is fucked.>>>/wsg/5873181And autonomous street-bound automobiles could also cause damage for passenger rail, if they aren't properly integrated in a multi-modal mobility-as-a-service solution.
>>2040443>autonomous street-bound automobiles could also cause damage for passenger railnot gonna happen, as their throughput is simply too low. they aren't scalable to the same degree as rail is. metro and suburban rail networks will become automated first. already planned for the Hamburg S-Bahn and new metro line U5. tho autonomous minibusses are also in the works, but only to increase coverage for low density areas underserved by regular busses
>>2040470>they aren't scalable to the same degree as rail is.Tesla is putting a lot of effort into it to make it scale. (Including autonomous Tesla-busses.)Tesla owners will be able to rent-out their cars as taxis through a maker-operated platform. Self-driving obviously helps a lot with this.The optimum would obviously be to have on-demand vehicles for the last-mile to and from the closest station to offer an integrated solution at scale.If public transit operators don't start putting some effort into that, (US) car makers will make them redundant. And German car makers' future is also not looking too bright, considering this.Look at >>2040443. That's not a closely controlled experiment, but regular operation on public roads. The future is already here and it won't wait for us, if we don't get up to speed.
Reminder that the WSV (Wasserstraßen- und Schifffahrtsverwaltung des Bundes) offers free ferry rides across the NOK. Ideal for hikers and bikers, as there are only few bridges.https://www.wsa-nord-ostsee-kanal.wsv.de/Webs/WSA/WSA-Nord-Ostsee-Kanal/DE/1_Wasserstrasse/2_Tunnel-Bruecken-Faehren/3_Faehren/1_Fahrplaene/Fahrplaene_node.htmlThe locations (pic related):https://www.wsa-nord-ostsee-kanal.wsv.de/Webs/WSA/WSA-Nord-Ostsee-Kanal/DE/1_Wasserstrasse/2_Tunnel-Bruecken-Faehren/3_Faehren/3_welche_faehre_faehrt_wo/welche_faehre_faehrt_wo_node.htmlI can also recommend taking the train to Rendsburg, as the view from the bridge is spectacular.
What are the "best" railway museums in Germany?
>>2040782DB museum in Nürnberg is OK. not that much in terms of rolling stock, but the history is well documented with rail related items. I haven't been to the one in Koblenz, I think they have some older stuff and have some summer festival with lot of opportunities for hobby photographs.French national railway museum is in Mulhouse and can easily be reached from Freiburg or Basel, they have lots of space and tons of rolling stock on display.
>>2040782The Technikmuseum in Berlin has a pretty nice exhibit of locomotives housed in some old roundhouses which originally belonged to the Anhalter Bahnhof (once the biggest train station in the city). They've also got large exhibits on ships and planes, if your /n/-tism swings that way.
Vielleicht doch eine Idee, mal wieder bei den Ösis vorbeizuschneien:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0F4NzdlpAcWobei ich am Ende eher mit einem Seitenhieb auf Berlins U55 (1,8km) gerechnet hatte.
>>2042060That's really cool. I do wonder why they opted for the extra expense of funicular and air cushions. I guess that ski town has (had?) money to spare for projects like that.
>>2042060>RedditMeme TransitDachte der hätte ausgehört.
>>2040308Ja und es gibt mehrere Gründe- Kostet gleich viel aber sauberer und besserer Service- Bei ÖBB wird man evtl. von Platz vertrieben wenn man für diesen keine Reservierung hat, bei Westbahn kannst du über QR-Code direkt am Sitz einchecken und hast dann einen Fixplatz und wirst nicht mehr kontrolliert- bei ÖBB kannst du evtl. nicht einmal in den Zug einsteigen wenn du keine Reservierung hast (starker Reisetag)- ÖBB Vorteilscard (halbiert jeden Ticketpreis) gilt auch für Westbahn- Westbahn ist immer Doppeldecker, dh du kannst wenn du willst immer erhöht sitzenKotzt mich ziemlich an dass ÖBB dich de facto zwingt ne Sitzplatzreservierung zum machen, außer dir gefällt es jederzeit vom Platz vertrieben zu werden (weil "gegebenfall reserviert" sich jederzeit zu "reserviert" ändern kann) oder sogar in einen Zug nicht einsteigen zu dürfen (Zustieg nur mit Reservierung wegen überfülltem Zug)Falls du öfter fährst dann hol dir die app und kauf dir die Tickets damit, dann sammelst du goodboy-points mit denen du entweder Snacks oder ein Upgrade auf Klasse 1 kaufen kannst
>>2042134No idea. I didn't know that channel before.That video simply popped up in my recommendations and I thought, it was intriguing enough to warrant a post to /chad/.
Wie gewonnen: https://www.deutschebahn.com/de/presse/presse-regional/pr-frankfurt-de/presseinformationen-regional/Meilenstein-beim-Wiederaufbau-der-Eifelstrecke-erreicht-13407606So zerronnen: https://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/westfalen-lippe/bahn-marode-bruecke-legt-gueterverkehr-lahm-100.htmlWozu haben wir eigentlich 500 Milliarden Sonderschulden aufgenommen?
>>2044977>Wozu haben wir eigentlich 500 Milliarden Sonderschulden aufgenommen?we haven't (yet). and you can bet that even church-run and other private hospitals, senior homes, childcares etc. will be counted as infrastructure spending as well
>Stellwerkstörung KRM>Fliegerbombenentschärfung in Osnabrück>38°C in West GermanyHaha, a perfect day to go to Cologne. Looking forward to regret my decision later traveling with Deutsche Bahn.
>>2046761Senk ju for trävelinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXjhszy2f9w
DB is a reflection of present day Germany: a country in decline.Shit never runs on time, trains are dirty, often vandalized, filled with loud Germans or disgusting brown Merkel rapefugees.Absolute nightmare.Polish PKP is nicer.
>>2047106Note that it was the conservative party that financially starved the train system for 20 years, invited the refugees and gutted the social programs keeping them from committing crime. And who now blow up the national debt while handing out tax breaks to the rich and make everything more expensive for everyone else, and refusing to invest in climate adjustments, guaranteeing total collapse of the economy in the next 20 years.Meanwhile the AfD basically wants to do the same things, but harder.Rightoids will drive this country into the ground, just so ultra-rich boomers don't have to sell their third private island.
>>2047114>conservative party>CDU>Cuckservative
>https://www.rtl.de/news/passau-bayern-syrer-20-greift-ice-fahrgaeste-mit-hammer-an-vier-verletzte-id4484274.html
>>2047145see? weapon bans do work. now that it's illegal to carry knives on trains, the attackers are forced to use hammers.
>>2035896>in germany>not germantypical lol
>>2038929>tfw DING customer
https://bahnblogstelle.com/235118/generalsanierung-der-bahnstrecken-soll-sich-bis-2036-verlaengern/Instead of the planned completion date of 2031, the Korridorsanierung will take until 2036. I'm sure DB will use the additional time to equip the routes with ETCS...>>2047114Who gave Merkel a majority for 12 out of her 16 years? And who is now backing Merz's policies?I haven't even started about Klingbeil preventing the NBS Hamburg-Hannover even while CDU/CSU wasn't in power.
>>2048064>ETCSHaven't you heard? Digitization has been cancelled.Enjoy your historic infrastructure for at least another century.DB is fucked. It's genuinely over.Germany will be the last country with man-driven trains within the next decade.
>>2048068Calm down, already.It will be fine. Stop comparing Germany with the rest of the world. We are simply too different.
>>2049386>Switzerland is only a little bigger than Baden-Württemberg.Yeah, OK. So why don't the trains in Baden-Württemberg, the second richest German state, work as well as those in Switzerland?
>>2049393Swtzerland spends a lot more money on trains than germany. About 4x as much per citizen IIRC>Baden-Württemberg, the second richest German stateThis isn't much of a factor
>>2049567Correct, I think we probably spend more public money per capita on public transit than any other cunt in the world.Well spend money if you ask me tho. Taxes are still way lower than in Germoney for example.
>>2049393The image literally says why, you inbred, illiterate moron.
>>2049572That's cause all the rich Germans pay their taxes in Switzerland
>>2049595Please calm down anon, you're making me upset.
>>2049613Nah, it's because our state has a spending crisis.It's spending way too much on shit absolutely no one asked for.And with in the end SPD, Grüne and Linke steering this government by its horns, there is no hope for this getting fixed (for now).The 500+ billion of new debt will probably mostly be used to finance shit from the regular budget, so more bullshit spending on SPD justice projects can happen without getting in conflict with Schuldenbremse.That said, the "Boomer-Soli", if it were to happen, will probably lead to a massive wave of (by no means "rich") people seeking refuge from this socialist government in Germany.
train derailment of a BR 612 of DB (looks like 2 units were attached) on the RE Sigmaringen - Ulm derailed nearby Biberach. possibly did get into a tree or landslide that fell onto the tracks after a heavy thunderstorm. at least 3 dead reported. https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/baden-wuerttemberg/friedrichshafen/biberach-personenzug-entgleist-100.html
>>2049723rich germans don't pay any taxes>>2049613See above, the issue is a lack of revenue created in the 90s by Kohl admin, and it got worse during the Merkel era. Look into the Thiele inheritance case, shouldn't be anything out of the ordinary but these days it is
>>2049891>rich germans don't pay any taxesThat's simply bullshit. A small fraction of rich people pays over half of the total tax revenue.You MAY argue they are still not paying enough, but at that point: Why should they opt to remain in this country that is controlled by people that actively hate them (like you)?>the issue is a lack of revenue created in the 90s by Kohl admin, and it got worse during the Merkel era.Kohl and Merkel were failed governments, but since you ignore the Schröder and Scholz governments in there, I can guess where you are coming from.Bonn was fine until '82, but especially Berlin has completely wrecked this country and its railway infrastructure.
>>2049889>no Langsamfahrstelle>(most likely) no checks on the state of the hillsides for landslide riskthe train was likely travelling at around 80km/h. this shit is criminally negligent and would have never been allowed to happen on a Bundesstraße under the same conditions.fuck DB InfraGOfuck the BaWü governmentand FUCK the Bundesregierung
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New Austrian train category just droppedToday ÖBB ran their first Interregio between Mallnitz and Salzburg.
>>2050529The train is a 4746 with a couple of leather seats as """first""" class, they could already been seen on various regional trains in the past weeks.Now on the Interregio services, there is a guy selling snacks from a cart. And you could technically reserve seats, but the IR 696 is mostly a commuter train, so I haven't seen anybody doing this.
>>2050529>>2050531Austria might be calling it an Interregio, but it's no Interregio.The standout feature of an Interregio is, that you can also use it with regular short-distance tickets.Austria appears to be going for the by-the-letter interpretation ("between regions"), which loses this standout feature, that made Interregios highly attractive.
>>2036514Saw Boris Becker in an ICE bistro once, on the way to Basel. He had a tomato soup.
>>2050646>>2036514I always thought, tomato liquids were a plane thing?That said, a tomato soup was probably simply by far the cheapest "meal" to secure a seat in the Bordbistro.I faintly remember paying 3 Mark 50 on a ride way, way back.
>ICE-L erhält BetriebserlaubnisI don't trust Talgo to build trains that don't break down. their new high speed trains Talgo Avril had to be grounded for faulty wheels, very trustworthy for a train that does more than 300km/h.I hope they test them throughly until start of the regular service.
>>2051102Talgo must've built the train that crashed at Eschede, as well.
https://www.stuttgarter-nachrichten.de/inhalt.deutsche-bahn-gebrauchte-ice-warten-auf-kaeufer.ed5febe6-3292-42a1-80ba-a0a252bf6425.html>Gebrauchte ICE warten auf KäuferSind potenzielle Kaufinteressierte anwesend?Es geht um ICE 3M.
>Kiel - Hamburgthere is no point in not using the car, even with hamburgs horrible traffic.
Westbahn nearby Vienna was shutdown for a couple of hours because of an elk just enjoying life near the tracks. Austria confirmed for being a Scandinavian country.
>>2053445Is it this story?https://www.br.de/nachrichten/deutschland-welt/emil-der-elch-unterwegs-durch-oesterreich-und-social-media,UwDF9ReThe elk apparently came from Czechia.
>>2053448yup, everybody likes Emil the elk, but he's starting to overstay his welcome
>>2053295Würd schon einen nehmen. Was letzte Preis?
