I NEED electronic shifting!It's SOOOO much better and faster and smoother than cable shifters!Shimano please take my one thousand american dollars to make my shifting divine forever! *(*- until next iteration of Di2 releases)
>>2056380Now do it under load.Di2 is fucking great and OP sucks fat cocks.
>>2056381they will enshittify bike parts m8
Yeah I always dump between the highest and lowest gears
>>2056380Its convoluted and expensive but its literally the best shifting, as of now. Youre just not good enough to care. And thats fine, you should stick with vintage 9 speed or whatever is in that cute webm of yours.
>>2056380if I had money I would go electronic, no cables to lubebut OP is a retard, imagine unironically posting straight bars tech
ok now show it shifting in index mode
I'm usually the last person to say "you don't need that" but I have never needed to shift like that, what would be the point? You were bombing down a mountain at 40mph and you crashed while you were still in the 11t? Ok great so I'm going to make 99.999% of my shifts worse in exchange for better shifting in the moments after a crash that would probably be fatal anyway, good job unracers you really showed me!
>>2056424it matters a lot for people who ride crits and stage races. when you are obliged to slam 1300 watts instantly while changing cogs to follow an attack, missing a shift will easily lose a race and will always make life harder than it had to be. if you're not doing a lot of events of that sort then yeah you don't need electronic shifting.
>>2056427you're telling me you're needing to drop from 11t to 32t instantly, skipping over all the other cogs in one shift, and it's not because you crashed? I've never raced but this seems reeeeally unlikely considering even having mixed brake types in a single race is considered dangerously sketchy
>>2056427>if you're not doing a lot of events of that sort then yeah you don't need electronic shifting.there isn't really an argument for mech anymore aside from saving a few hundred bucks at best and being too ret to charge a battery. Routing shifter cables through a onepiece cockpit or through stem is a nightmare too. Now do you need to upgrade your old roadbike because electronic shifting exists? fuck no
>>2056428no, I'm telling you that when you load up your chain entirely in a high-stress environment with a lot going on, you sometimes miss the exact right timing on dropping 1 or 2 teeth between 100+ cadence pedal strokes and if you miss that shift with 1000 watts loaded, by the time you can correct the mistake your race is cooked.
>>2056424i think its mostly a mountain bike thing desu
>>2056430What does that have anything to do with what we're talking about? Did you just want to e-stat about your 1000 watts? /fit/ has a thread for that, I'm sure
>>2056433because that's why electronic shifting exists...that's the use-case.
>>2056436The op pic shows a mechanical shifter going from the smallest to the largest cog in one shift. I said that's cool but there are no real life situations where you need that. In response you started boasting about your watts. If I'm confused, which I am, it's because you're having an argument with a ghost, while responding to me as if you're responding to something I said.
>>2056437zoomers dont read
>>2056437>The op pic shows a mechanical shifter going from the smallest to the largest cog in one shift.gotta be honest. I never looked at the image in the OP or bothered parsing your posts.
>>2056429>no argumentjust off the top of my head, price, weight, simplicity, battery degradation. If your electronic shifting is miles better than your mech, skill issue. Set it up right.That being said, electronic is the right choice for most people in the same way a CVT is the right choice for most people.
>>2056429>Routing shifter cables through a onepiece cockpit or through stem is a nightmareyesbut then there's a question- why would you route cables through the stem and the frame, when you can just route them outside? >but muh aeroyour yee-ass haircut has more drag than your entire bicycle nigga>but i bought a new frame with internal routingupgrade to external routing, easy>>2056446>electronic is the right choice for most peopleelectronic is the right choice for top 0.005%. for everyone else, cable is vastly superior.
>>2056446>>2056447cvt is actually the right choice for some cars. particularly low power city cars, like kei cars. also scooters and snowmobiles. not for everyone, but there are valid usage cases.
>>2056436>>2056437He thought your comment >>2056424 was about electronic shifting, not the webm in OP.
>>2056447>vastly superiorExcept for batteries and maintenance costs, it's literally better in every way. Honestly sometimes it seems like the batteries are a better trade off than cables some times.
>>2056429>Routing shifter cables through a onepiece cockpit or through stem is a nightmare toouhh you dont have disk brakes?
>>2056467
>>2056467When are they doing to make one piece stem/forks?
The feel of cables is divine. Disc and electronic shifting is a fucking joke but the entire world is turning to shit so why shouldn't bikes go the same way.Watching the entire industry switch to disc was the most pathetic thing I've ever seen and I will never buy a new bike with that shit on it. I encourage all you young noobs to ride a rim brake bike to see what you're missing. There will be angry autistics in every thread repeating bullshit they heard on GCN like it's a fact. It's not and they're all full of shit. Disc sucks ass
I don't shift
>>2056517OP here, disc brakes are actually superior, unlike electronic shifting. They aren't any more complex, they are far more reliable, require less maintenance, don't care if you taco your wheel so you can limp home with brakes, are MUCH easier to set up (yes, even the single-pull mechanical ones), and nowadays aren't even that much more expensive than rimjobs (especially in the long term, considering rim brakes eat pads much faster and use, well, the rim as a wear item, how wasteful). MT200s are cheap, ubiqtous and just work. Cheap cable disc brakes are usually bad, but if you don't wanna run hydraulics (for example, for winter riding, or round-the-world touring), you can't go wrong with Avid BB7, tried and tested.
>>2056523sure, but that's only for flat bars. on drop bars the pricing for hydraulic brifters is ridiculous and cable disks suck so you're left with rim brakes as the best option.
>>2056546nta but hylex aren't expensive and I'm pretty sure there's a couple of china direct brands making reasonably decent hydro brifters now if you don't require prestige stickers all over your bike, I suppose you'll call me a marketing jew now like in the other thread
>>2056546>cable disks suckBad cable disks suck, but it's not 2010 anymore. I've tried a low-end gravel with cable Tektro Miras once and I would take them over any rimjob I've ever tried.
>>2056517Id have sympathy for rim brake retards if what they said really made any sense. Have you used hydraulic disk brakes? It both function and feels better than anything. Theres an argument to be made on if most bikes >need< disc brakes, my rod bike still has rim and i love it. But i wouldnt be caught dead mountain biking the way i do with fucking v brakes get real. >>2056546Prices can change, china is already making some decent shit
>>2056555hylex are brake only, no shifting. do you actually get stickers with shimano/sram stuff? i've never seen any>>2056558eh it just seems like worst of both worlds to me, there's no way you're getting the nice actuation of the hydraulic levers, and you still have all the weight and bulk compared to rim brakes.>>2056559>china is already making some decent shitlike what?
lol
>>2056565ludds gonna lud
>>2056559Didn't a bunch of Chinese brakes just fail randomly?Magnene or something
>>2056564>eh just seema like the worst of both worldsWhy dont you go and try it?
