Why does a graffitied train have to be taken out of circulation immediately? How much does it cost in your country to clean up one graffiti piece? In Finland, the average cleanup cost is 600-700ish.
>>2058163"Broken windows theory" approach popularized in NYC in the 80s. Vandals do it to be seen, so minimizing the potential views has the effect of minimizing a vandal's desire to tag trains, since they know it won't last long.
>>2058165I've read about this and it's an interesting threory, and it's true by all means. I used to work for a railway company while also painting graffiti, not trains though. The extremes people go to just for painting trains is interesting.So many train painters are also just railway autists, honestly
>>2058163Over here they leave it on until the next maintenance cycle as long as you follow two simple rules:>don't spray over the windows>don't spray over important markingsMost graffiti "artists" don't have the brain cells for that I suppose.
Did a bunch of you just find out about broken windows theory because of me?
>>2058163Funny thing is, the Romanian Bucharest Metro authority actually encouraged people to graffiti up some ancient-ass rolling stock. They figured out it was way cheaper (read: free) to get vandals to paint the trains for them.
You can barely see out of the windows on most renfe trains
>>2058163I assume because they can not guarantee that the graf artist hasn't fucked with the train in another way (severing lines, tampering with equipment etc) so they need to clean and inspect before being put into service. I've never tampered with a train after painting it but some wilder crews will intentionally break shit. I love metro graf. unofficial, unpaid, illegal penetration testers that show how pathetic modern day metro security is. Imagine having 30+ mins of unrestricted access to mass public transport carriages if you were a bad apple. Unthinkable
>>2058187It would be interesting to have pentesters and metro writers make a presentation for something like Defcon, but a lot of people would get mad after that. There's so god damn many layers to this it's unreal. Emergency brakes, literally stalking for 2+ weeks in bushes for worker and guard activity, looking at timetables.. I hope one day there'll be something like I mentioned, but the secrecy will die along with it. On the other hand, people have been doing this since the 70s in some way shape or form, it'll just get more complicated for those in the sport
>>2058163>In Finland, the average cleanup cost is 600-700ishNo, your average cleanup cost is 600-700 * r, where r = repeat offending rate.A little vigilantism, particularly if this is being done by third worlders, can save millions. I mean, you're going to give serious consideration to using a spray paint can again once you've lost a fingertip.
>>2058444>literally stalking for 2+ weeks in bushes for worker and guard activity, looking at timetablesbruteforce approach also workshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S931SkhLKZshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uobSUdu_6q8
>>2058187If I ever see you I will push you into the tracks and smash your skull on the rail.
>>2058178Nice
>>2058174yeah i feel like it's this more than muh broken window. the tagger probably covered a window or two or got paint in a vent or some shit.>>2058178lots of cities have been doing this with various objects, they set up "tag walls" in shitty looking places hoping to spruce up the place and kickstart gentrification of dead industrial areas
>>2058163Vandals should be executed. Of course jewish hollywood promotes graffiti as being artistic even though 99.99% of the time it's ghetto thugs painting gang tags and misspelled swear words all over everything.
because grafitti looks like shit and should be cleaned off and it is only "art" to low life criminals
>>2058177It got removed as a teaching subject, thanks to BLM, and some of the kiddies might be hearing it for the first time.>>2058187NYC has legit concerns about terrorisim.
>>2061920>NYC has legit concerns about terrorisim.Graffiti is usually considered to be vandalism, not terrorism. In case you hadn't noticed, there is a difference.
>>2061922If the graffers are there, the chance that someone else follows them in, or uses what the graff people are doing to find vulnerabilities. And that in NYC's case, this isn't just a theoretical risk. There are definitely assholes with mass murder on their mind around who would glady do that shit in NYC..
>>2061928> Ah yes ahmed now that we have followed this graffiti artist to a train yard that spans for block and blocks openly we can complete our duty to allah and make the pigs pay by writing our names on the containers!you're such a pussy just say you're scared and shutup
>>2058177i've never heard of it by that name but it's pretty well known that it's a thing. people even joke that you have to keep bathroom stalls clean because once the first child draws a little stick man in there, it's fucking over conversely, if you get some particularly talented vandal to just do a huge mural, vandals are less likely to write over it, and sticker-bombing stuff or even hanging shitloads of flyers is a good way to at least keep vandalism PG/limited to further being just people slapping stickers for their home businesses instead of scribbling GAIUS WAS HERE AND IS NOW A HOMO WITH HIS BEST BRO AULUS. and again many cities have designated tag walls specifically to contain vandalism/reduce hood nigga nonsense since even hood niggas seeing a well done mural of a local pop star or something wont tag over it (much)
>>2061947LOL. Flex more, toy bitch.
>>2059889Good man. Those pricks need their hands cut off.
>>2061922Americans think anything they don't like is either communism or terrorism. Possibly both.
