Seishun 18 Kippu EditionOld Thread: >>2035672
>>2060917Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EROUo4Mg_ooGoes really into detail with the timetable revision.
Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNPazLn1n4Q
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Just ordered picrel from https://denshapins.com/ here's hoping that he does more, in particular the 383系 and 103系.
https://www.yomiuri.co.jp/national/20251220-GYT1T00097/A car got in the way of a Kintetsu Kyoto Line limited express, scraped another one on the side, and went on fire. Everyone on the train was fine, but one car passenger died.
https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASTDM3RD8TDMPXLB00JM.html (paywalled)https://toyokeizai.net/articles/-/915252 (not paywalled but has retarded javascript, but you can load the site just fine if you disable all javascript)Gobo Railway in danger of disappearing next year>2.7 km line in Wakayama with 5 stations>was in danger of closing in 1973>but got bought out by a Tokyo real estate company because they wanted to raise the company prestige by running a railway>deficit kept getting worse>fast forward to this year>real estate company is bought out by chinks>chink management says if they don't find a buyer in 2026 they'll shut it down
>>2061543posting in an incel thread
https://youtu.be/M2sswNJOg6oUre-Seat (reserved) on side-facing bench seats. Absolutely vile. How does JR West get away with this crap? What's stopping people from just walking into it and sitting down w/o a reservation? Is there a conductor enforcing anything?
>>2061729>they didn't even bother to remove the ederly/disability seat stickerLowest effort possible cash grab
>>2061729honor, i suppose. still retarded as fuck but i guess its basically the same as flixtrain or northern in the west lmao
>>2061729>jewry from jr westmany such cases!
Wet and cold morning at Tazawako today, but Komachi愛 warms the hearts of all.
JR Shikoku has revealed its 3600 Series Hybrid DMU to the presshttps://news.mynavi.jp/article/20251223-jrshikoku3600/
https://www.jrkyushu.co.jp/common/inc/news/newtopics/__icsFiles/afieldfile/2025/12/25/251225_thenameofthenewstationhasbeendecided.pdfJR Kyushu is building a new station near Fukuoka Subway/Nishitetsu Kaizuka station, and thankfully they will name it JR Kaizuka instead of some stupid shit that came up in the surveys like "Kaizuka Gateway" or "Hakozaki Smart City".Also interesting that the filename is in English instead of Japanese.
If you're travelling on the Joetsu Shinkansen, and maybe even the regular Joetsu line, expect a lot of traffic for a while, especially around New Years, because there's only 2 paved roads between Gunma and Niigata, and one of those(Kan-etsu Expressway) just got closed due to a huge pileup crash and a fire, and the investigation and cleanup will apparently take weeks if not months.The other road(National Route 17) only has 1 lane each direction, and has a tunnel that doesn't fit taller coach buses, so you'll be competing for seat reservations with group tours which would otherwise have to make huge detours, either via Nagano through Karuizawa(Route 292 closes for winter so can't do Nagano through Kusatsu) or Ban'etsu Expressway through Koriyama.
Multiple local outlets seem to be reporting that the Japanese government has earmarked money in the new budget proposal for re-evaluation of Basic Plan Shinkansen lines yet to be built, but every single one is paywalled so all I can see are tweets about these articles.Are they really saying that the chances of Tsuruga - Shin-Osaka track being built are so low that other Shinkansen could be built first?
>Waltz up to Akita station this morning with my Resort Shirakami ticket to Wespa Tsubakiyama (Anothet great station name >>2061903 might like)>Sorry, due to sharyou toraburu it's cancelled, here's a replacement generic kaisoku thoughNot kimochi-ii. :(
>>2062105And Jewpan Rail'd again today from Wespa -> Aomori, was meant to be one of the new ones but have been shafted with the old Kumagera set. Also my ticket was for a seat in car 4 row 11, and this ancient one only has 10 rows, so got tossed into the lounge.
>>2062167Yesterday from Shin-Aomori.
What are diesel trains called in Japanese? 電車 means literally electric train, or is it also used?
>>2062278Diesel railcars and DMUs fall under 気動車, but the average non-enthusiast will just refer to everything as 電車the proper generic term for all trains is 列車
>>2062041Post some links pls>re-evaluation of Basic Plan Shinkansen linesThat reads like to me they're cutting it all off>>2062105>>2062167What is the JR compensation for equipment swaps and involuntary denied boarding? They just give your reserved seat fee back?
>>2062328>They just give your reserved seat fee back?Yeah, though nothing back if you're just rail passing of course.
>>2062280>Diesel railcars and DMUsWhat about diesel locomotives. Are they really a thing in Japan?
JR East starts 2026 with a car collision and derailment on the Utsunomiya Line between Shin-Shiraoka and Kuki. Car driver had to be ambulanced to a hospital, everyone on the train seemingly fine.
>>2062331diesel locomotives are DL or ディーゼル機関車
>>2062331With the death of the blue trains, it's mostly just sightseeing/holiday special トロッコ now that you occasionally see diesel-hauled, e.g. >>2050820
>>2061641>>2061995>>2062333The effects of the new diversity that is striking Japan
>>2062403Is it? Wouldn't have made that connection, but Japan extremely recently (like last month) made the issuing of a Japanese drivers' license for foreigners harder.You actually need to know your 日本語 at this point. Previously you didn't need to at all. The license test was in fucking English.
>>2062333I swear I saw an in train announcement saying the chuo line was delayed due to said derailment, how does that make sense? I can't be remembering that correctly, but I definitely saw that on the screen. great start for jr, maybe today will break the three day streak of shonan shinjuku line being suspended or severely delayed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W0CD__65aVs>Comments are turned off
>>2062408Closing the driver's license exchange loophole (even to tourists who have not tangible connection to Japan and are by definition are non-residents) is an obviously rational thing to do, Japan over the past 15 years under globalist/LDP control have pushed replacement migration into every sector of the economy. Hell, they even changed the laws letting temporary foreign workers into the transportation industry (yes that includes railways), anything to depress wages. The current Prime Minister is a lot more honest and anti-globalist, but that's a lot of harm to undo from over the years
What's the deal with this loop near Nishi Tsuruga?
>>2062461The straighter portion has a 25‰ grade which limits freight capacity on the uphill and requires a second pusher locomotive, so in the 60's JNR built the second track with a less direct route but with 10‰ grade and use it uphill.
>>2062440y tho
>>2062476State-controlled media do not tolerate commentary they did not create themselves. Have you seen what the much worse contemporaries of the NHK (like the BBC) does?
>>2062535OhWell but we knew that. Thought there was some other reason.
>>2062440> Railway Journal> it's about overselling redevelopment of towns
>Japan Railway Journal does a rehash episode of the Choshi Electric Railway>Now they did another rehash of the Geibi lineWhy are they doing this? the old and new episodes are seldom any different. Yes I know they selling the stations name, Yes I know they sell canned ballast, yes I know the CEO doubles as a driver you did exactly the same content on the old episode you NHK fucks
>>2062331Mostly in Hokkaido but I imagine there are holdouts on the other main islands as well.
Don't recline
>>2062902Retards who have a problem with recline can go ride buses or low cost carriers. You have no right to decide what the passenger in from of you does with *their* seat (that is not yours, and does not consider whatever the fuck you think is good or bad). We already had this stupid shit on airlines, now retards and their dishonest tatemae are pretending it's some virtue on trains/long time airline status holder
>>2062910The solution is to close the border.No more stupid, fucking gaijin.I'm one myself, but at this point, I'm thinking, it might be for the better.Japan is probably better off without foreigners in any capacity.
https://tabiris.com/archives/nagaragawa202601/Nagaragawa Railway avoids proposed partial closure for now, municipalities on the line decided to try to implement tourism promotion measures.https://tabiris.com/archives/kumamotoshiden202601/Kumamoto Metro Area Urban Transport Master Plan contains three planned extentions to the tram network, plus one already greenlit for construction>Kengunmachi - Kumamoto City Hospital already greenlit, construction will start next year>Kengunmachi into Mashiki Town most likely to come next to ease congestion around TSMC facilities>Tasakibashi to the Nishi Ward Office area>Karashimacho - JR Minami-Kumamoto station>through-service with Kumamoto Electric Railway also to be considered
>>2062921lol, lmao even
I sort of agree with both sides here, reclining without warning is bad etiquette, but at the same time I'd be hard pressed to think of a really good reason why I shouldn't be allowed to recline most of the time. My solution is I kind of play with the recline button and make like I'm going to recline a few times, then recline slightly like 2cm, then go upright to give them a chance to get ready, then I do the full recline. That way if something gets crushed it's on them.
People on JP railtwitter are doomposting about the future of Soya Main Line due to several things being suddenly changed or removed overnight, like the marker post on the platform being changed to a sticker, or a sign between Nukkai and Minami-Wakkanai stations pointing out the view of Rishiri Fuji being removed.
>>2063091(me)Bakkai, not Nukkai
>>2063015Yeah, it's ridiculous how simple the solution is.Japan without other foreigners is by far the best place on Earth I have ever been to.
>>2063091Surely they'll at least wait for the next typhoon that causes a decent amount of damage before canning it. But yeah glad I rode it last year at least as I doubt it'll last too many more years.
>>2063143>typhoonThey'd be waiting a long ass time. The last typhoon to get near was Songda in 2004, which broke apart in Sea of Japan before it could make a Hokkaido landfall(but was still strong enough to cause damage in Teshio).MLIT has given JR Hokkaido a deadline until the end of fiscal 2026(so March 2027) to assess the 8 sections in the "yellow group" from the 2016 deficit announcement(200 - 2000 transportation density). You can see which lines are a part of that, and data about them here: https://www.jrhokkaido.co.jp/corporate/region/current.htmlOf the eight, Sekihoku Main Line(4,99 billion yen) and Soya Main Line north of Nayoro(2,73 billion yen) stand out. Every other line is below 2 billion yen deficit. So it's fair to assume that both would be under the most scrutiny. However, Sekihoku Main Line has the Kitami - Abashiri area with activity(one specific morning rush train pulls in 214 passengers), and the Asahikawa - Kamikawa section isn't doing that horribly either. So the logical next step, which I imagine Kitami and Abashiri cities will take to keep the line alive, is to say "Alright, you can save money by getting rid of all local trains between Kamikawa and Rubeshibe." Decrease in services plus adding a seat fee will reduce the money bleed and keep the line alive.Meanwhile, the most used Soya Main Line local train has 22 passengers between Horonobe and Wakkanai, and none of the 6 express trains have even 40 people going to or from Wakkanai itself. There is no real argument for keeping the line just for 6 express trains. It's too long, and JSDF already drives to Onishibetsu anyway.If I was a betting man, I'd put money on March 2028 closure. March 2027 is when JR will start pushing municipalities to sign agreement to close using the MLIT deadline as a justification. It will take time, but will likely be a matter of months, not years.
>>2063194>Meanwhile, the most used Soya Main Line local train has 22 passengers between Horonobe and Wakkanai, and none of the 6 express trains have even 40 people going to or from Wakkanai itself.That's an average of ~20% occupancy rate since the 4-car KiHa 261-0 set used for Soya / Sarobetsu has 204 seats, jfc. Should I assume that it'd have even less passengers on certain periods?
>>2063194Transportation density averages out the whole route, doesn't it, so on a line-wide scale it doesn't tell you if there are sections that are significantly above/below the figure for the whole line?
spooky
>>2063194>There is no real argument for keeping the line just for 6 express trains. It's too long, and JSDF already drives to Onishibetsu anyway.It will be needed as a link to the rail ferries once the JSDF retakes Karafuto-chou.(But if it is seriously that close to death that's very depressing, I should go ride it again...)
>>2063208I just wet meself>>2063228So weird to see Moonspeak written right to left
>>2063232>So weird to see Moonspeak written right to leftYou should read more pre-1946/pre-GCHQZOG media.
>>2061191>急行を除くCute of them to print that on the ticket considering they already killed the last 急行 boi 10 years ago now, #never4getti.
Anything to expect from the upcoming election railway-wise?
Power outage kills entire Yamanote line and Keihin-Tohoku line between Ueno and Ofuna right in the middle of the rush hour. Service is expected to resume around 1PM. Other lines with trains going through Keihin-Tohoku tracks, which are now canceled, are heavily delayed.(red - closed, yellow - delayed, pic also shows unrelated Ome line maintenance closure)
>>2063442(me)time to actually attach the pic
>>2063443Is there ever a single day that this map has no yellow or red on it?
>>2063237急行ラブ
>>2063237>>2063454>Kill all 急行 leaving only the 特急Always thought this was retarded. If every express is 特別、then none are 特別。
>>2063487when faced with regulated fares (must bring a case to raise fares, and even then it's not that high), the only way a railway can freely move prices up and down is by levels of service. You see this today with Green, Super Green, advanced/ticketless discounts, etc.急行 was always a stupid level of service, reserved seats in the fucking boxed seats. Imagine being trapped with unpleasant people for hours on end while the trains drives slowly. Good riddance and nothing of value was lost.
>>2063489There was nothing mandating that all 特急 have box seats though right? I mean when I rode on the Hamanasu back in the day, I sat and slept in pic related which despite its age was somehow the most comfortable and cushy sleep I have ever had on a mode of transport outside of A/B class Sunrise berths.
>>2063536>>2063489*nothing mandating all 急行 have box seats I mean.But god damn all I remember really now is how fuggin' comfy that seat was.
>>2063443i always take pleasure in seeing jr east's disrupted maps of shame, but I got caught by the tail end of the fukutoshin suspension today coming back from shin yokohama. karma or something. got to see the saitama rapid railway thanks25 train at musashi kosugi at least.were the delays on saikyo/tokaido/etc just from the resulting overcrowding and confusion?
>>2063487>>2063489Well, strictly speaking, 特急 are 特別急行, so they haven't "killed all 急行", they have merely made them more expensive.>>2063489>reserved seats in the fucking boxed seatsCompletely typical across Europe. Those are installed especially with families in mind.Originally even using compartments, which were fucking awesome. It's a shame, European railway companies have killed those.I guess with the population of Europe these days, it's simply not possible anymore for safety reasons.And it's not like "インバウンド" hadn't taken its toll on Japan either.
>>2063633I've ridden in a compartment like 2 months ago in Poland, but then again it is Poland so much less "インバウンド" than Germany or France
>Suicide by Shinky on the tracksHow could they with the jump barriers? They'd have to climb down to the tracks pretty awkwardly and would assume it'd be enough time to hit the SOSボタン on the platform.https://japantoday.com/category/national/update1-shinkansen-bullet-trains-resume-after-temporary-suspension-in-western-japan
>>2063721well emergency braking can only slow down a train so quickly
>>2063536>>2063537For the original trainsets that were built those services in the 50s/60s such as the 153/165, 455/475, KiHa 28/58, and 12 Series they had box seats unless you take the Green Car>>2063721The article mentioned that it happened on Asa Station, which has dividers between the platform and passthrough tracks instead of jump barriers on the platforms. Even then there are still various small gaps between the dividers throughout the length that the person could still pass through.
https://x.com/fy_ml213/status/2013563760594624769RIP D52 1
>Trains delayed againNot even a month in and already has more accumulated issues than in previous decades, Japan has fallen
man brandishing scissors on a saikyo line train takes out entire commuter network
For the 15th Anniversary of Kyushu Shinkansen's full opening, JR Kyushu will bring out Car 1 of the 800 Series Shinkansen U005 set (derailed during the Kumamoto earthquake in 2016 and was subsequently retired) and have it "sail" along the west coast of Kyushu with a tugboat and eventually be put on an exhibition in front of Hakata Station in Fukuoka.https://www.jrkyushu.co.jp/train/kyushushinkansen_15th/https://www.jrkyushu.co.jp/common/inc/news/newtopics/__icsFiles/afieldfile/2026/01/22/20260122_Tsubames_Great_Adventure.pdf
>>2064113This is fine, can just take the Shinkansen between Yokohama and Omiya~>t. JR pass
>>2064183I wonder will station staff let you board tokyo bound trains at ueno? Can't book a ueno -> tokyo ticket, shinagawa to tokyo is all good though.during last week's power outage, there were a few omiya tokyo shuttle shinkansens implemented. was funny watching news footage of the stopped keihin tohoku train and empty tokaido/yokosuka/yamanote tracks meanwhile jr central kept on keeping on with its 60hz
>>2064113>17 year old male points scissors at a teen female passenger's neck>some apprehend him but majority panics, pulls emergency door openers>track is closed until JR checks that there's nobody on the tracks and no equipment was damaged by panicked retardsWhat I don't get is why the fuck an incident north of Akabane caused an all train cancellation all the way in Zushi, located 50 kilometers away as the crow flies and almost 70 kilometers by rail.
>>2064192The Saikyo Line shares a portion of its track with the Shonan-Shinjuku line, so any issues with the former affect the latter. I wasn't paying attention the day this happened, but I assume Yokosuka line trains (not through service to the Shonan-Shinjuku line) were still operating at the time of the shutdown.
>>2064192south of Akabane but yes. Love how the zero ridership sotetsu jr link line was still running through this mess.What confuses me is why jr didn't take advantage of Ikebukuro and its normally empty at 16:20 yard to turn trains and keep services to and from Osaki running, or at least pulling all the saikyo trains into the yard to avoid stalling the shonan shinjuku line. North of the incident, Akabane does have a storage track, so they could've (slowly) turned trains back toward Omiya as well, but Musashi-Urawa is the closest place with a proper crossover. Considering how inflexible jr is, cutting through service to the kawagoe line is really all to expected.For whatever reason, jr had the passengers walk the tracks for over a kilometer to reach Akabane rather than on the street to the much closer Higashi Jujo, which of course meant they had to stop the other lines through Akabane until people were cleared off the tracks.
>>2063721desu sounds like a pretty cool way to go out
Miki is back !
>>2064420AW HELL NO
Our heroes are in trouble yet again!After last week's scissor incident, and the power delivery equipment fire the week before that, now a catenary wire broke at Ueno station, causing closures all the way to Takasaki and Utsunomiya! Will our heroes finally have a week of peace in the year 2026?Find out next week on Tokyo BallZ!
>>2064494and now with video
>>2064420What happened to Katy Kat
Did this trainbus ever go into regular service?https://web.archive.org/web/20250730061810/https://english.kyodonews.net/articles/-/29768I have ideas about articulated trainbuses, catenary, and trolleybus routes.
>>2064528Probably didn't want to fuck the producer so they replaced her with that dumb tart Miki. But that's was ages ago.
>>2064660>Did this trainbus ever go into regular service?yes
>>2064528her shill tube channel Ask Japanese really went downhill when she started only interviewing foreigners in Japan, not actually Japanese people
>>2064495>>2064494How did the Tokyo rail network end up as unreliable as some jeet-run city's?
>>2064756through running mainly. Shitetsu and subways generally handle mishaps better though; they'll sever connections to isolate problem areas relatively quickly, JR doesn't really do this on it's own lines as evidenced above where they suspend services between Zushi and Ofuna when the problem is all the way up at Akabane. Seeing direct service suspensions between jr and other operators like rinkai and tozai is fairly common though. Keikyu is probably the gold standard for flexibility and fast recovery, they'll turn trains basically anywhere and change your train at tsurumi from a kanagawa shinmachi bound local to a haneda bound limited express without hesitation if that's what will keep things moving.
Next Friday: "JR East preemptively suspended all service in the Tokyo metropolitan area earlier today because 'something was going to go wrong anyway,' says Kise Yoichi, President and CEO."At least today wasn't their fault.
