Now that wider tires on road bikes are the default and you can barely even find a rim brake bike for sale anymore (other than at the antique store), how long before Big Cycling realizes there's no more upgrades to sell and if they want to continue selling bikes now they have to promote thin, high pressure tires and turn of the century frames as an improvement (complete with convincing-looking data presented by convincing-sounding "engineers")
2 more weeks
>>2065818use hydraulic disc brakes. they work much better than pincher style rim brakes.
Road bikes have been more than good enough since the late 90s MTB is where any sort of innovation has been madeWhat's next? Uhh full suspension road bikes2.1" knobby tires on road bikes Dropper seat posts on road bikesFlat bars on road bikesNah bikes are fine and have been more than good enough for ages It's the road, infrastructure, and a work life balance to actually be able to travel and use transportation more often and more easily
>>2065872>use hydraulic disc brakes. they work much better than pincher style rim brakes.Dual pivot calipers were already technically perfect, as we're 1" steerer tubes. Road bikes have been engineered into homercar abominations of road and mtb tech. It's sad to see and if you're pretty close attention it's a clear indictment of human character - both the evil of the merchants and the malleability of the consumer. Horrifying
>>2066379maybe I'd rather have brakes that can be used from the hoods without having the grip strength and hand size of a male silverback gorilla
>>2066391But at least you get those sweet disabilty checks
>>2066391soibot my strength is waning
>>2066379Rim brakes of any kind are inferior to discs because rims pick up more water and road depots, and due to the fact they’re a solid flat surface, don’t shed that material during braking, reducing initial braking performance and fouling the pads much more quickly.The world of motorsport figured this out over a century ago, before they figured out helmets prevent head injuries, it’s incredibly obvious to anyone with any spatial reasoning ability.Hydraulically-actuated slotted disc brakes are more powerful, more easily modulated, more easily cooled, and more reliable, than any rim brakes.
I've never in my life had problems w rim breaks when conditions are wet but I'm not a faggot driving two states away to a mountain range where I only ever do the descents
>>2065873TPBP
>>2066701Being a flatlander must be absolute hell if this is the kind of cope you have to tell yourself, no wonder you guys are so bitter that you spend all this time on internet bike communities telling people that gear ranges and good brakes are useless
>>2065873I think dropper posts on road bikes are already a thing for certain races
>>2065872Shut the fuck up disc cuck>>2066379>Dual pivot calipers were already technically perfect, as we're 1" steerer tubes. Road bikes have been engineered into homercar abominations of road and mtb tech.Truth>>2066584>Hydraulically-actuated slotted disc brakes are more powerful, more easily modulated, more easily cooled, and more reliable, than any rim brakes.That's fucking hilarious. You are an idiot.
I thought rimtards and cablecucks were extinct but apparently not
I can stop on cabke rim brakes just fine, guess im just a better braker, pheh :)
>>2065873they already do this, they're called "gravel bikes"
>want to buy a cheap shitbike to paint and put my spare parts on >all cheap shitbikes for sale are rim brake monstrosities Total rim brake death
>>2066379>Dual pivot calipers were already technically perfectA delusional statement that could only be written by some fair weather fuckboy who has ridden in weather that approaches dampness, let alone actual rain. Rim brakes suck shit when wet.There's zero reason to not have discs outside of performative contrarianism where you just emptily virtue signal about "old thing is best" because if you say something opposite of reality it allows to posture and pretend like you have some sort of hidden knowledge. It's social gnosticism and you should kill yourself tbhdesu.
>>2069552i wont say i dont massively prefer discs for inclement weather but the only reason rims go from "not great" to "actually unusable" is because of nigger manufacturers who make rim side walls completely smooth to appears aero-obsessed fucknuts (who also only ride in fair weather, as they are fuckboys)when a rim has channels in it to let water be shoved off into them and then sluice off, rim brakes can work at least at all. but every wheel made since 2005 has been fucking enamel-painted all over itcase in point >>2066379 which literally has rim brakes on a such a wheel that will make them not work at all because the rim tapers in for muh aero, implying he probably doesnt even use the front brakes at all (or even ride at all, given the bizarre brake cable management, unusably small pedals, and that the bike is spotless and shiny despite supposedly having had contact with the outdoors)>There's zero reason to not have discs let's be real here: maybe the frame isn't drilled for them (mine is not so I only ran rear discs, until swapping the frame and realizing oh shit it doesn't have HOLES and i am out of random mending plates to bodge shit). do not mount disc brakes if it is physically impossible to attach them to your frame, god might get upset at your violation of space-time
>>2066379>gatorskins
>>2069552I'm older than you and I've daily commuted and was a messenger on rim. there were no disc most of my life, same as millions of other people. never had a brake failure. even in a downpour, you just have to brake a second earlier, but due to visibility you're going slow anyway at that point.I'm not saying discs aren't more powerful, I'm just saying rim has never caused me any problems.
>>2069563>I'm older than you andomg unc :skull: why you're posting on this thread :sweatdrop: sweatdrops: :skull:
>>2065818yea I'm not sure how they would trick people into buying those useless bone shakers again>>2065872correct>.t rides on the hoods
>>2070377If you ride anything wider than 16mm and tires any thicker than 4mm tubeless you are slow, gay, retarded, and probably a DUI rider.
>>2070390>wider than 16mmso, the entire pro peloton?if your 16mm tires make you faster than them, you really ought to start racing, you could make a lot of money
>>2069550throw a cheap amazon air fork on one of those shitbikes and boom now it takes a front disc. mixed brakes are fine - if you can already lock the rear on rim brakes, then a rear disc can't add any more stopping power
>>2070377that suspension is horrendous
>>2065818Kek. Another unc thread about shitty bike tech.Is anyone still using a CRT TV? Or flip phones? Or god awful leather bike helmets? It sucks. It simply sucks thats why no one is using this shit anymore.You cant even compare bikes from 10 years ago to modern ones. The geometry and efficency, and the money that flew into development surged like crazy during the last 10-15 years.I had a few steel shiters because i liked the look but they are fucking horrendous in every way compared to modern aero race bikes.The comfort, handling, shifting, brakes... its not even funny anymore how bad things were back in the day.
