We had to destroy the plane in order to save it edition.Crashes year to date:https://aviation-safety.net/database/year/2026/1Last thread:https://boards.4chan.org/n/thread/2062242/
WE GAAN
KC-135 down over Iraq
>>2067583Non-civilian plane crashes in warzones/warzone adjacent regions don't seem like they should count to be honest
>>2067584It's not a "war" though so this counts
>>2067585unlike the rest of the "war on terror", the president explicitly said he intends to go to war with the country of iran rather than any non-state group within it as was done with the taliban, al-qaeda, etc>>2067583lmao, defence industry stonks MOONING soon, cant w8 to cash out the day its replacement gets delivered in 2053
>>2067585The US hasn't declared 'war' since 1942, quibbling about legal technicalities is dumb
>>2067588>The US hasn't declared 'war' since 1942And for good reason, since no conflict that the US has fought since 1942 was ever in defense of the US mainland, so it makes far more sense to call them special military operations, since no US civilian lives or infrastructure are actually under threat, thus no military actions that might put US civilians or infrastructure at risk are actually carried out, thus they don't require direct Congressional authorization
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>>2068428Still not as cool as the King 747 flight done in the last 747 to roll off the assembly line.
>>2068428Why isn't it an israeli flag? That is very antisemitic of him.
LGA Incident where a CRJ-900 collided with a fire truck while landing.
It's so bad.
>>2068497I can't speak for any of the passengers but I'd be surprised if the pilots made it out of that one
>>2068499glad im not at lga
Atc should be publicly executed. Sick of living in a no-responsibility world.
>>2068497>>2068501Headcrush maximum.
>>2068499Both pilots reported dead at scene, unsurprisingly.
why are vehicles on the runway at night
>>2068504Musk has blood on his hands. He fired all the competent ATC people so he could pocket a few billion more.
>>2068511Why do you people need a 'villain' to latch on to and insert into every conversation?
audio https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1s16taa/aircraft_collides_with_a_fire_truck_on_runway_4/
https://nypost.com/2026/03/23/us-news/air-canada-laguardia-plane-crash-audio-captures-moments-before-fatal-collision/ATC is cooked, fire truck shares partial fault for target fixation>>2068510responding to 2x rejected takeoff and smoke in cabin from a united 737 (possible engine fire)>>2068509they were ejected and found on a taxiwaythe stewardess was dangling from the jumpseat
>>2068497>Front fell off.I'd like to point out that's not very typical.
The republic of orange miggerville continues its triumphant march.
>>2068517>fire truck shares partial fault for target fixationThis. Afaik you are supposed to look both ways before crossing a runway, even when you have clearance. I don't know if airport fire fighters are trained to do that. But considering that not following some basic safety standards can cause more trouble than that with you've started with.You start with one, probably empty plane with smoke, and then you end with two deaths and a plane full with potential injured people, and probably you wouldn't be able to help because you've just been hit with a plane.
>>2068530Firefighters don't have to follow things like laws, rules, regulations, or common sense. They are HEROES and the plane should stop for them.
>>2068530from hearing someone who knows more than me 4-22 is a little sloped so its hard to see at the other endand the fire truck is a literal piece of military equipment (oshkosh striker...curb weight of 87k lbs if its a 6x6 which might be related to the stryker it was fully loaded up too so probably like hitting a solid chunk of steel). its also a 3 seater with poor side-side visibility with the driver in the seat i have a feeling it was heat of the moment thing too where they rush and don't think but they did have clearance 100% feel bad for the atc desu i think the 4 critical might include the arff guys i also heard they might be okay and it was passengers.
>>2068517Does LaGuardia normally have only one ATC working air and ground frequencies at the same time?
americans just can't stop crashing airplanes, can they?eurochads keep winning
>>2068539You'd be surprised how many plane crashes and incidents occur in places outside of the US. Most countries just have control over the news and the plane crashes don't come out until years later.
>>2068546This is some weird ameriburger cope. Most countries are not North Korea, it's pretty hard to hide it when anything larger than a King Air B200 crashes unless it was a stolen plane flying drugs in the peruvian amazon
Why did they even have to cross the runway
>>2068548to get to the other side
Names of AC8646 crash pilots released as Captain Antoine Forest and First Officer Mackenzie Gunther
>>2068530They should literally have a tablet in the cab, showing the airport and all planes, should not need to ask ATC for permissionThis back and forth yes/no radio bullshit has caused all the recent big accidents
>>2068558So it looks like the truck driver did see the plane coming at the last minute and tried to swerve
>>2068548It was responding to another plane that had a ground emergency.
Captain Steve on youtube said the last time LGA had a fatality was on March 22, 1992 (also March 22). What did the universe mean by these?
>>2068558>that last second rotation attemptWorse than JIA5342.
>>2068563Don't fly in or out of LGA on March 22.
>>2068528Damn dude I didn't know Trump himself was in the control tower, man sure is busy. You retards are just as insufferable as the retards who put Biden "I did that" stickers on fucking gas pumps
>I messed up-ATC
>>2068531Yes, but most likely it won't. And it will kill anyone that makes them.>>2068536They're though but they're not exactly military. Considering what happened, it seems something is really wrong with airfield standards, or ARFF training. Now, the ATC did really fucked this up, but I wouldn't blame him on having to manage 2 frequencies on his own.>>2068556Afaik, they have ground radio but not local/tower and approach. If they can listen one of those frequencies at least they could be more aware of planes.
>>2068539>>2068547AV Herald proves you wrong.
>>2068594lga training is more lax imo, i will say lga is dangerous purely from the high speed exits (short rwys) + amount of planes on such a small airport but i do agree they share the blame for not looking (to be fair they were with company) lga like dca closes at 12am so there's a mad rush before closing of arrivals that said arff was likely in the heat of the moment, he was likely still on ground radio (ground lets you cross runways on their frequency unless its super busy then they'll tell you to change frequency). the alert probably got to their head. i personally keep flightradar24 gold on my personal cellphone and leave it open if i feel unsure of anything, its helped me when its ifr/super foggy or snowing out or when i want to see how far a plane is out before crossing a rwy. they train us not to cross unless absolutely necessary.
>>2068597LGA had a working runway status light system in operation as can be seen by the not shitty cropped video. The red hold lights turned off as the aircraft passed the taxiway like it was supposed to. Aren't you guys trained to not cross if the red lights are on? I know you aren't supposed to cross without tower clearance even with the lights out, but I assumed you followed the status system in addition to looking both ways before crossing the street.
>>2068602yeah that's why im chalking it up to red mist/target fixation from the alert, dude wasn't looking and crossed once he received clearance someone i know did say that 4-22 is sloped so its more difficult to see things at a distance and those trucks have you sitting in the middle (3 seater)
>>2068595when was the last fatal airliner crash in Europe?
>>2068606germanwings 9525 in 2015 where the pilot intentionally flew into a mountain
>>2068603Former navy maintenance guy here. Very little experience crossing runways in a vehicle, but I do have had to cross the landing area on a carrier many times. So bear with me if this sounds retarded.When crossing the LA, we're taught to ask permission from the arresting gear officer, and when receieved, to book it across so that we can check tools and give the thumbs up. No one ever wastes time with looking to make sure that a jet isn't about to land. But even if we did see a jet coming towards the carrier, we would probably assume it's coming back around for a second go.I imagine this is much more hectic on at a real airport with multiple active runways. Even if the driver had checked, how realistic is it to recognize that an approaching plane is about to land on YOUR runway, especially in the dark on a rainy night? How would you know it wasn't waved off or headed for a different runway?
>>2068609It was already on the ground, they must’ve been able to see it
>>2068607so 11 years without fatal crash in EUcompared to every year occurrence in burgerlandreally makes you think
>>2068606>>2068607The most recent fatal airline crash in Europe was Swiftair Flight 5960 in November of 2024 from Germany to Lithuania involving a Boeing 737-400. The plane crashed into a two story house and only the pilot was killed. Likewise, only the pilot and co-pilot were killed in the recent crash at LaGuardia
>>2068612That fireball, and the copilot didn't die? Is he made of asbestos?
>>2068609There are only 2 runways at LGA and they are at a 90 degree angle, so there is only one direction to look
>>2068595no U
>>2068628One strip of pavement = 2 runwaysThere are 4 runways at LGA
>>2068637no, 2 runways. unless you can land planes in opposite directions simultaneously
>>2068638I mean technically you could it’s just not recommended
>>2068558MUTTLAND IN ONE IMAGEMIGAism is a death cult.
>>2068556>should not need to ask ATC for permissionYeah lets just let ground drive around active runways with no communication, that'll be great
>>2068644Do you need ATC's permission before you merge onto a highway? The EXACT real time position of planes is public info..
https://www.youtube.com/live/SxDklYVkioU>we have a big fancy system designed to prevent this shit>it only works if you equip your vehicles with transponders which of fucking course they didn’t do>also one of the busiest hours has the least controllers in the clock because third shift is for suckers
>>2068645>Do you need ATC's permission before you merge onto a highway? The EXACT real time position of planes is public info..Are you actually retarded?
Looks like Eglin AFB is at it again!
>>2068651>big fancy systemdid they refer to indemex, i know lga ops has that but its annoying and kinda useless and goes off anyways if you have clearance (its meant more for situations where you're in between 2 taxiways and you could go accidentally into the runway safety area imo). we have it in most of our vehicles at jfk but it'll still blare and go off if you have clearance to cross (or you're on/close to the runway at all)>>2068644i kinda agree, not necessarily drive across active runways w/o clearance but a tablet that's linked to saab aerobahn or even flightradar would help a lot with this stuff. saab aerobahn shows location of planes and any ground vehicles/targets on the movement areas and its shared between ops + atc (ie if i close twy a btn twy a1 and a4 at the ops desk it gets reflected in the tower and arff)>>2068609i mean we have 2 parallel runways there's rarely a go-around if its on coming towards you its probably gonna land 9/10 times. it can look close when they're 5-10 statute miles and they're landing on 22R and 22L but once its 2-3 miles out you can tell pretty easily
>>2068558Air traffic radio with animation: >>>/wsg/6115872
Thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUY1E6HdxGU&list=RDHUY1E6HdxGU&start_radio=1
>>2068720Who pays for all this shit? Like is there a crash surcharge sent to airlines when an airport has to hang on to the wreckage?
>>2068721presumably the NTSB pays the bills as part of their investigation, but I think JetBlue would charge a crash fee
>>2068553>Mackenzie Guntherthe first chick I cummed in
>people who blame that DC helicopter/plane crash on the route/ATC/whateverAnd not the clown military aviation who LIE repeatedly about having the plane in sight
>>2069295It can be more than one thing
>>2072588Shitty slopreccing filter on phones these days ruining every picture taken.
>americans are trying to crash an airliner againseriously stop already, you're making the whole industry look bad
Does anyone have the video of the guy getting hit by the Frontier plane?
>>2073107The thread with the fedex thumbnail has it, it's like infrared or something so not as exciting as you are imagining. Also indians reeeeeee indians (as a plane foamer it is apparently my moral duty to seethe about them 24/7 no matter the topic)
you can listen to the UPS2976 pilots last moments because of AI nowthe NTSB released the CVR spectrograms in the docket but didn't realise that anyone with time and AI can recreate the audio from themhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/OXEbB8rw39git's a little noisy because of image compression, but the pilots and the alarms are clear as day
>>2074091>and AIlmao
>>2068645yes
Another saarliner failurehttps://x.com/visegrad24/status/2062541959797809390
>>2075099pilot error?
>>2074109I mean, if you have programming skills you could just code something to read the spectrogram and output the audio that way.Or you can be based and kill several fish to do it in minutes.
>>2075099How did Boeing's stock not do a nose-dive after that incident?Is shit like that already priced in at this point?
>>2075179Because in the real world your oft regurgitated juvenile meme's don't hold sway.
Two helicopters crashed in Brazil.Why are helicopters so dangerous?
>>2076022wings faster than fuselage, etc
>>2076023Karma for culturally appropriating traditional 80s clothing. My culture is NOT a costume to be worn for laughs.
https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2067111073665147217Another
>>2076107
>>2076108
>another week, another american jet crash
Happening incoming What an unfortunate turn of event.Ivan what did you do with the Pantsir ?
>>2076115you're retarded
Ubisoft co founder, and head of Thrustmaster dead, w. flight instructor.
>>2076411I was sadder when Oliver Tree died to be honest
Bell 214 crash in Greece a few weeks back. Lost power and exploding tranny>>2076022More complicated to fly, more things can go wrong with a rotor than fixed wings, used for more complicated missions and terrain (not just flying from point a to point b)
>>2078012>Greece High Definition
anyone have the pic of the Delta Airlines flight 191 crash at Dallas Fort Worth where it shows people sitting in the seats in the back half - the plane ripped open and the front half kept going. I remember seeing it in the newspaper but nothing on line.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/ahmedabad-tragedy-supreme-court-accepts-pilot-dads-plea-not-to-make-air-india-crash-report-public/articleshow/132694428.cmsplease do not redeem the final report saar
>>2076023I still don’t know who Oliver tree is or why people are söying over his death. I heard one of his songs and it was dogshit
Why is it so hard for people to POINT THE FUCJING CAMERA AT THE THING THEYRE FILMING????
>>2078012
https://x.com/RapidReport2025/status/2092308281716883885
>>2076023Seems like his life didn't actually go on, and he didn't miss you if you was the ground.
What's your favorite plane crash and why is it PSA Flight 182? It's the most ghoulish plane crash in American history.
>another month, another big plane crash in burgerlandwhen will they learn to fly?
>>2081467When they stop hiring from India(ATC Audio)https://files.catbox.moe/qo68zm.mp4
>>2081469
>>2081476What do you think they were saying in that cockpit after they realized it was too late?
>>2081477SAMIR YOU ARE BREAKING THE PLANE
>>2081224>for memestenerife disaster because we gaan>for realUnited 232>well this scenario can't happen>ok well it happened and now your plane is uncontrollable>fine you're controlling it with engines but you're going to crash into the earth eventually, nobody can save you>the ringer of all ringers is on board, the absolute best pilot trainer for this aircraft and same insane scenario>you manage to land>on a runway>with over a 50% survival rate>simulators couldn't even come close to making the same landingShit is unrivaled in sheer absurdity
>>2081476were they trying to redeem a tesla?
>>2081479>United 232Based.
>>2081476Would have been funny if they plowed into those BEVs. An unstoppable chain reaction fire for days.
>>2081479Real war thunder oldfags have survived several landings in war thunder using only engine control
>>2081483>war thunderGay babby shit.
>>2081487Compared to what? 'Sims' based on 1980s tech?
>>2081488>casual gamer npc gets mad
>>2081491Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 doesn't have detailed damage simulation.
>>2081492>being such a casual gamer that you can only name one flight sim
>>2081493Everything else pales in comparison, X-Plane boy.
>>2081494>the cringe continuesYou keep comparing civ sims to an arcade combat game and come across as a console or mobile weenie.
Look I get it, you paid like 30 million for your 'advanced military sim', but you need to understand that almost all of that was licensing and red tape.
>>2081496You play a free arcade game, get a grip on reality you cringelord.
Boeing and screaming, iconic duo.
>>2081509saw this IRL, the bangs were insanely loud.
>>2081510yeah it's totally Boeing's fault that they landed halfway down the runway and didn't realize that's not going to work
All accidents could be prevented if we replaced pilots with AI.
"go arounds are for quitters"- pilot flying, probably
>>2081469>>2081476>>2081477>Approach was too high, too fast.>Touched down around 5000 foot point on a 9300 foot runway>No speed brakes deployed>no reverse thrust usedYeah the CVR is going to be interesting to hear.
CVR>06:02 A pilot called for flaps to be set to 1 degree.>04:18 The flight crew checked in with Miami tower and were cleared toland on runway 30.>02:53 A pilot called for flaps to be set to 5 degrees.>02:37 The flight crew lowered the landing gear.>02:14 A pilot called for flaps to be set to 15 degrees.>01:42 A pilot called for flaps to be set to 20 degrees, and the other pilot cautioned they were too fast. The other pilot made additional comments regarding the aircraft’s excessive speed throughout the remainder of the recording. There was not a consistent verbal response to the comments about speed.>01:23 Sounds consistent with autopilot disconnect.>01:12 Electronic “one thousand” callout.>01:04 Electronic “sink rate sink rate” callout.>00:58 Electronic “five hundred” callout.>00:57 Electronic “sink rate sink rate” callout.>00:54 Electronic “one hundred” callout.>00:50 Electronic “minimums” callout.>00:48 Electronic “too low terrain” callout. Annunciated four times.>00:41 A pilot called for flaps to be set to 30 degrees.>00:40 Electronic “forty” callout.>00:39 Electronic “too low terrain” callout.>00:36 Electronic “ten” callout.>00:31 Sounds similar to the aircraft touching down.>00:15 A pilot called for a go-around.>00:10 Sounds similar to the aircraft departing the paved surface.>00:00 The CVR recording ended.
FDR>00:30 The nose and right main gear touched down at a groundspeed of 158 knots.>00:23 The brakes were applied at a groundspeed of 146 knots.>00:19 The left main gear touched down at a groundspeed of 134 knots.>00:15 Brakes were released at a groundspeed of 120 knots and throttles were increased to a value consistent with go-around thrust.>00:11 The throttles were reduced to idle power and the brakes were re-applied. The groundspeed was 117 knots. The throttles remained at idle, and brakes remained applied until the end of the recording.>00:07 Recorded lateral, longitudinal, and vertical acceleration values changed markedly; the FDR data indicated a groundspeed of 96 knots.>00:00 The FDR recording ended. The final recorded groundspeed was 65 knots. There was no indication in the recorded data that speed brakes or thrust reversers were deployed.https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/DCA26MA352.aspx
>>2081774>>2081775So, shit CRM or rather destroy the parcels than pay a go around fine?
>>2081778>pay a go around fineIs that a thing?
>>2081805I really don't know. But there were accidents due to people trying to save fuel, time or just save face. And that's just culture and hubris. It happens in the best families. But a gap on training is more likely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjYq4XwUdHk
>>2082104autorotation bros...your response?
>>2082105"mayday"
>>2082105Why weren't they orbiting?
>>2082105You can hear the gearbox tearing itself apart in that vid. Too low to autorotate.On the video, you hear the engine spooling up, then the overspeed warning horn, (beep beep beep beep), then spooling down, then the low RPM warning, single long beep right before impact. You also hear the pilot say "fuck!" and the reporter ask if they can go up--- then impact. Wreckage shows the rotors weren't spinning at time of impact.
well it wouldn't be the [current year] without a female rotard hitting something. it is crazy to consider the odds here...probably only a couple thousand rated female helicopter pilots in the USA yet they are like homing missiles hunting down other aircraft and towers.I think we finally getting somewhere on calling a spade a spade on women in aviation. Like we are now where white racial consciousness was in 2015...you'll still get cancelled for saying it out loud but behind closed doors people are agreeing. these women are dangerous to themselves and others withou significant guardrails (automation, copilot, ATC etc) yet most of them burn out on that kind of serious flying job because they'd rather have families. and its just like...by the time they are 30 being lusted after by boomers loses its shine.they get into the regionals and majors and then they don't want to upgrade. on one hand you commend it, on the other its kind of a waste. when I was in flight school there were about a dozen of these girl wonders who made it to CFI/ATP mins...today maybe one or two are still flying seriously. they all got married, had kids and saw their priorities shift.this just isn't a woman's job. they don't have the skills for it and they don't even want to do it. but they get lavished with attention, scholarships, low time jobs to advance their careers that ultimately go nowhere. its getting obscene
>>2084044>behind closed doors people are agreeing...which is a danger to OurDemocracy!OurDemocracy needs to get behind those closed doors and set those people right!
https://x.com/OC_Scanner/status/2116991262545064283?s=20audio of florida crash
>>2084147>>2084150If it's a dive like that you need to disconnect the autopilot, bring the power to idle, speed brakes, roll wings level, then smoothly bring the nose back to the horizon. Not scream to ATC who can't do anything for you.
https://x.com/thenewarea51/status/2116995542396150085
>>2084147can someone describe it? leddit says it's pretty bad and i don't necessarily want to listen
>>2084153N722BD: Seven two two bravo delta, we're descending 8,000 Mayday, Mayday! We're descending 10,000 feet per minute!ATC: November 722 Bravo Delta, roger.N722BD: Declaring emergency, 722 Bravo Delta! We are in an overspeed condition, descending 20,000 feet per minute!ATC: November 722 Bravo Delta, roger, altitude's your discretion, let me know what you need.N722BD: We're going to crash into the ground, 722 Bravo Delta!N722BD: November 2 Bravo Delta, I'm here with you, talk to me. We are descending 22,000 feet, and we are banking 60 degreesATC: November 2 Bravo Delta, roger.N722BD: Look outside, we're going down! We're gonna crash! We're gonna die!N722BD: Holy f***...ATC: November 2 Bravo Delta...ATC: November 2 Bravo Delta, how do you hear?ATC: November 2 Bravo Delta, Miami?
>>2084150Just fucking augured it in.
>>2084154That transcript isn't even accurate to the recording. She seems to yell"fuck look outside, Jack(?) look outside!" (have the pilots been ID'd?)or could have yelled"fuck look outside, Jack we're gonna die!"The audio isn't great.
>>2084154>aaagh save me ATC>teach my how to fly the plane, but fast!do americlap pilots really?
>>2084150how do you even end up in this situation? Was the entire hydraulic system severed?
>>2084153>>2084153It's pretty bad. You can hear the pilot grow more and more panicked as all of her efforts to regain control fail, she starts calling out more and more insane descent rates, then seconds from the the end, "we're going down Jack, we're going to die - holy fuck we're out of time -" and then silence
Goddamn the CVR is brutal.
>>2084158Icing, from earlier in the audio they were trying to climb out of it. By the end they were flying a brick in all likelihood>>2084161This is just what was broadcast over the radios, the CVR (if equipped) will probably show if things just went bad really quickly or if they delayed acting on the icing too long
>>2084162the weather down here in Florida is super fucked right now so it seems to me like it's unlikely to have been them failing to act on the ice in a timely manner
>>2084154How the fuck does this happen!? Why didn't they fucking pull up?
>>2084162So why does it appear like the horizontal stabilizer is completely missing in the video?
>>2084165Pulling up while stalling will just make you stall more and go in a flat spinPulling up while diving to the ground at high speed will just rip your tail offBut yeah they probably did fuck up at some point to fail to recover from an icing stall
>>2084153Redditors are just like "oh it's so BAD you wouldn't want to listen to it. I'm scarred for life it's soooooo bad" and the upvotes come rolling in.It really isn't that bad. The woman basically panics, screams, and that's that. There are far worse audio clips out there.
>>2084166If they tried pulling up going too fast they could easily have taken the tail off from overstress
>>2084169I'm sure it's traumatising for reddit because it's the sound of their world view falling apart. Women should not be allowed to operate airplanes or frankly any machinery of significant consequence.
>>2084147>>2084152Why does she scream so loud? A man would remain calm and professional.
>>2084173you haven't listened to many crash CVRs have you?
>>2084174I have, and there's not that many men yelling during an emergency. However, every one I've heard with a female pilot there's yelling. For example, that Boeing jet that had it's door pop off outside of Portland right before employees mysteriously died.Also there's this hilariously catty bitch ATC at San Francisco. Look that one up, you can hear the purple hair and septum piercing in her voice as she berates pilots for not reading ATIS. Now to be fair, there are some snippy arguing male pilots and towers (look up N30CV for a laugh), but if we're doing per capita...
>>2084166>why does an overspeeding aircraft in a near vertical dive experience structural failureGee I fucking wonder
i didn't know he named the airport after himself
>>2084176N9815L pilot is a little male bitch tho
And of course here comes the conspiracy theories that Trump shot down the plane after they put anti-air weapons around Mar-a-Lago.Or that this was AI and the CIA downed the plane.
>Frost Breath (The user blows its cold breath on the target. This attack always results in a critical hit.)
the weather was shitty today did she just fly into a thunderstorm?
>female pilotsishygddt
>>2084184Too early to say for sure but people are saying they probably flew into a storm cell and maybe caught a severe downdraft
>>2084184>this Learjet 60 must make the headlines. I need to be at dinner in the Bahamas real soon don't worry about the storm just get us there girl.
>>2084150Did they find the black box?
I loaded up the kml, interesting
however
>>2084191>plane encounters extreme icing conditions>hero PFC tries to shoot the ice off>gets blamed by schitzos for trying to help:(
>>2084191We have footage of the crash anon. The plane showed no signs it was struck by an Avenger, not even peripheral debris prior to the crash like what you would expect. Armchair Twitter schizos need to take their meds
>>2084183how many flights have they made to the Bahamas?
GTA 6 LARPers are already insane and the game isn't even out yet
>>2084190It looks like it was doing fucking fine. What happened!?
>>2084196They literally flew into a storm
https://x.com/fastnewsnet/status/2116974811553620127Where tf did the plane go?
>>2084197Planes can fly through storms just fine
>>2084197Oh no! Not a storm. No plane ever has flown through a storm and lived to tell the tale!
>>2084199Planes fly through rain all the time you mean, where you don't typically see planes fly is right through stormcells
>>2084198It got incinerated or otherwise turned into fucking dust at impact speed like that >"20,000 feet per minute descending" Can barely see the plane for more than a handful of frames in the video, the same thing happened to that flight outside shanksville on 9/11 when you crash going that fast with that much momentum there's hardly anything left
>>2084200>>2084199
>>2084200Retard tier bait D:
>>2084201We flew through storms all the time in the east china sea, it's fine unless you encounter hail or severe icing.
>>2084200Yes but not a plane piloted by a foid
>>2084196The tail of the plane has downward lift forcing the nose up, if that iced up real bad then that would stall. With that no longer being able to force the nose up, the plane starts going down. "Ice-Contaminated Tailplane Stall"
>>2084198
>>2084205Almost like the pilot reported icing in the audio
>>2084193
>>2084198>Where tf did the plane go?Most of its mass was converted to energy which then proceeded to transfer into the ground where a significant amount of mass was then removed from its point of impact
>>2084210Yeah, an Avenger isn't going to cleanly remove a rear horizontal stabilizer that cleanly
>>2084198You can see water pouring into the pit, some of its downthere. But it was flying at 0.9 mach, much was vaporized, some of it turned into shrapnel like the wings maybe
>>2084213>We're sorry, your homeowner's insurance claim has been denied as it's been determined to have been caused by storm damage beyond the scope of your coverage, have a nice day!
>>2084214yeah "oh i'm sorry you didn't get airplane accident coverage it was only $450/yr sorry better luck next time"
So if you don’t prepare for icing conditions in a Learjet before flying through a storm…you might be fucked? Since their guidance after that is to climb to dryer air asap ?
Not that it diminishes the tragedy obviously, but this sounds like pilot error, doesn't it?
Why don't they install an electric heater in the wings to melt the ice?
>>2084219It already uses an engine bleed air deicing system
>>2084219They have deice, it's just when it's negative 40 out with supercooled water all around them shit can't keep up
>>2084217>but this sounds like pilot error, doesn't it?Given the conditions they chose to fly in, I'd argue this absolutely was pilot error. Whatever contract they had wasn't worth losing their own lives over, they had the power to make the call to delay the flight but they didn't and payed the consequences.
>>2084217With what little information we have, its definitely one of the main factors.My bet is the following: The aircraft was brought down by severe icing caused by supercooled large droplets (SLD). In combination with severe to extreme turbulence (pilot reported an altitude deviations of +-700 ft just prior to loss of control), the wings/tail stalled resulting in a loss of pitch and bank control.The ice buildup, and startle factor may have prevented timely upset recovery. The aircraft quickly accelerated past Vmo/Mmo, from that point on recovery would have been impossible.At some point on the way down, the horizontal stabilizer separated from the aircraft as shown by >>2084210. It is likely that it will be found in the next few days as the investigation proceeds. However if it happened at a sufficiently high altitude, the air currents could carry those structures a considerable distance.The main concern that I have regarding this accident is why the aircraft was where it was in the first place. The controllers repeatedly warned the aircraft of the hazardous weather, and the aircraft likely had an onboard radar. Despite all of this, the aircraft appears to have flown into one of the strongest parts of the storm. Was there a functioning weather radar on board? If not, how were the pilots getting their weather information? Is it possible that anything outside of the flight may have been affecting their decision making? Why didn't they delay, divert, or just go around the storm?TL/DR: The weather killed them, but it seems that some combination of bad decision making or inaccurate/incomplete/outdated information got them there in the first place.
WHERE'S THE FUCKING PLANE?https://n.uguu.se/flqEuJad.mp4
>>2084224some is in the hole under the water but now very compactsome is the powder surrounding the holesome is entering the lungs of those people in that clip
>>2084224Every part of that aircraft still attached at impact is in pieces smaller than the last knuckle on your pinky finger. The one (maybe) exception are the 2 engine shafts since they're big hunks of solid metal, and those would be at the bottom of that crater.
>>2084222https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2026-11-01-17:43&lat=26.668&lon=-80.120&zoom=11.5It's hardly like everything was grounded at that time
>>2084227notice the altitude. Everyone else in the pic is well below the freezing level. They would have experienced the precipitation and the turbulence, but wouldn't have gotten any of the ice.
>>2084191those are little babby stingers and couldn't lock or hit a learjet flying that high
So if they flew into a storm and got ice or whatever in their engines, is it unrecoverable to the point where they had no choice but to randomly slam into the ground at high speed with no chance to bail out? I can't imagine that a jet like that just has issues where you'll eventually just die in it
>>2084198Atomized and then buried very deep underground. One of the early lockheed electra crashes involved investigators finding a decomposing stew of all the passengers a few tens of feet underground.
>>2084230Reposting from another thread, a likely series of events:>aircraft is in moderate icing conditions>anti-ice systems keeping up or maybe just falling behind>crew requests to climb, believing they'll break out of the clouds>aircraft enters storm core>greatly increased precipitation causes rapid extreme icingYou are now in a very bad situation, immediate action and favorable conditions might save you>loss of control ensues, aircraft enters nose dive>overspeed occurs>tailplane suffers structural failure (notice in the picture it's missing)You are now 100% fucked>nothing left to do but enjoy the ride down and maybe say goodbye to family over the radio
>>2084232horrifying, I don't want to ever be on a private plane or a plane piloted by women
This is an assassination attempt on Trump
>>2084225Yeah that's a ballistic missile not a plane.
>>2084232Pilot error 100%. It should be priority #1 to never fly into a storm core, both ATC and the pilots fucked up big time, everyone had radar but ignored it.
>>2084183Of course they crashed. They aren't even paying attention to where they are going.
>>2084237Where were they going without ever knowing the way?
>>2084223>The main concern that I have regarding this accident is why the aircraft was where it was in the first place. The controllers repeatedly warned the aircraft of the hazardous weather, and the aircraft likely had an onboard radar. Despite all of this, the aircraft appears to have flown into one of the strongest parts of the storm. Someone on plebbit said this:>In my opinion, they probably flew directly into a massive 47,000-foot storm cell because of "radar attenuation"—where heavy rain out front blinds a small jet's 12-inch radar to the severe cell hiding behind it—or just standard 5-to-15-minute data lag on their cockpit tablets. I don't think they even realized what they were flying into.
Going to wait for based Blancolirio's assessment. He's probably wanking himself dry at the moment.
>>2084232>requests to climb??????
>>2084238At least they'll never get hungry, they'll never get old and gray.
>>2084240For me, it’s flyingformoney
>>2084241Likely what they thought (and weren't entirely wrong) was that if they climbed higher they'd be above the densest precipitation. Had they started it a minute or two earlier they might have been fine
>>2084241climb to sublime.
>>2084231>One of the early lockheed electra crashes involved investigators finding a decomposing stew of all the passengers a few tens of feet underground.>look it up>it's realI assume this only happened because the plane nose dived into the ground, keeping the wreckage and bodies concentrated in a small area, but it's still wild and gross to imagine
Does anyone else find the Florida crash extremely funny?Like not trying to be a dick but there's just something about slamming face first into the ground at Mach 1 that is just like...damn...that bitch knew how to crash boy. I've just been watching it on repeat with rap playing in the background.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTIbFJrUYF0
>>2084160>she starts calling out more and more insane descent rates, then seconds from the the end, "we're going down Jack, we're going to die - holy fuck we're out of time -" and then silence
the day I get my private jet I will never have a foid at the controls, mark my word
Do we actually know the identities of the pilots and who was pilot in command?Seems strange that this is not confirmed nor is the passenger manifest.
>>2084154>N722BD: Look outside, we're going down! We're gonna crash! We're gonna die!should have done this earlier
Anyone else get hard listening to the audio? Reminded me of the elevator scene with the female scientist in Black Mesa
>>2084227>It's hardly like everything was grounded at that timeWell, half the planes in that pic are grounded and among the ones that aren't include a 737 and a C17 and not a tiny Learjet so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about to be honest
>>2084256I was more responding to the notion of "that's nuts, nobody would fly that!" as given by>Given the conditions they chose to fly inNo authority was saying don't fly in that area, in fact that was fine until they steered into some major storm which might not have been a problem otherwise
>>2084147>>2084161Eh the Western Airlines Flight 2605 CVR was 1000x worse in terms of being chilling. They went from trying to see in the fog to knowing they hate no control over their fate within like 2 seconds.
>>2084261had* no fucking clue why the autocorrect went with hate
>I need to keep ATC updated on my vertical speed>just one more vertical speed report sis, that'll fix everythingwomen, amiritie?
>>2084263>"Yup we can see you're falling out of the sky still thanks for the 15th update you're doing great ladies!"
There are too many normalfags becoming pilots. That's what causes this. They get bored and think getting their pilot's license is a way to statusmaxx. Then when it goes wrong they expect ATC to have some magic power to save them. If you aren't some kind of weird autist you have no business becoming a pilot.
>>2084154Why didnt she just pull up??
>>2084224It's the hole, duh
>>2084210I would guess they ripped off after icing up and then plummeting almost mach 1 to the ground.
>>2084224On the street side you can see what looks like an outline of the wing and winglet smeared onto the road.
>>2084269Pic of it.
>>2084224it turned into soup, along with everyone that was inside it
>>2084270No way this is actually it right? I would have expected more destruction, cracking of the ground for the whole wing.
Tourist hereAssuming you are an average pilot who for some reason has decided to fly in these conditions and reached the point that she has, do you think you'd be able to survive?
>>2084191>Australian AveI knew it was those bloody galah cunts
>>2084273Once the tail freezes over and stops doing it's job any amount of skill isn't stopping the fall. At best they could hope to increase drag and if the engines have reverse thrust to engage it. If the tail has inflaters enable them hoping to crack off the ice before the ground says hi.
>>2084272https://litter.catbox.moe/0pa75wub3etzm1kj.mp4
>>2084273if you were an average pilot you'd use your average pilot skills to never get into this situation in the first place
>>2084276>barefoot girl in short shorts crying while walking by a flaming crater in the rainFlorida is a weird place
>>2084278Latinas are based like that (specially the ones from Florida)
>>2084183
Sully would have landed that plane.
>>2084191>Stingers shot down a jet cruising at 35,000 ft
>>2084150does the lighting not look a little off here?
>>2084246did they take pictures?
>>2084272the entire plane disintegrated hitting the ground at over 300mph. Aerospace grade riveted aluminum is not designed to survive a force impact in these conditions
>>2084224My brother in christ, did you see the speed of the impact? There was NOTHING left.At some point it reached -57k feet per minute of vertical speed.
>>2084285The dashcam has auto-exposure which is the reason it changes during the video
>>2084224the jet fuel melted it
>>2084270>>2084272
>>2084292KEK
i miss allec joshua ibay bros
They identified the pilot.https://nypost.com/2026/11/02/us-news/nathalia-gadelha-identified-as-learjet-co-pilot-in-florida-crash/
>>2084297>“I definitely do brag because people say, ‘Oh, you can’t drive,’ and I’m like, ‘Yeah, but I can fly,'” she told CBS12 in an interview at the time.
>>2084213>Die>Instantly get shit on
>>2084225How should a Tesla's self driving software handle this type of situation? Does it have a special sub-routine for dodging incoming aircraft?
>>2084297charred and BLACKED
Street address for anyone who wants to see where they crashed.>3001 S Military Trl, Greenacres, FloridaCrazy how close they were to killing people on the ground.
>>2084302>charredanon she got pureed
>>2084306Pilots are heroes. They avoided hitting the trailer park or any other nearby buildings.
>>2084309>avoidedyeah, sure, totally intentional
>>2084171Given that men have crashed far far more planes than women, and men are much more likely to have an car accident than women. Maybe men should not be allowed to operate planes and cars.
>>2084147I never go on Twitter and now I know why, people on there are legitimately retarded.
>>2084306Deltatroons already vandalizing the site
>>2084249How did the dude in the white car turn out? That would be scary as fuck.
>>2084224looks like she ran the airplane into a water main
>>2084318Someone didn't get their hot shower yesterday afternoon. Probably bitched out some poor customer service rep at the local utility building too.
>>2084171I agree, women should not be allowed to drive cars
holy FUCK this thread is full of the biggest no jet time retards on the planet. Lears don't give a fuck about ice at altitude, highly unlikely you'd experience severe icing at the temp they reported prior to the loss of control. You've got "moderate" turbulence with a loss of 700 feet, which sounds like severe to me, and then suddenly a loss of control. Whether it was a loss of the horizontal stab at that moment, or it was a stall or overspeed/mach tuck issue leading to an inflight breakup, that's your problem. Don't talk out your asses about ice, it ain't a Cessna in the pattern. I'd like to see the maintenance history on this jet and see if there was any recent work to the tail, severe turb shouldn't be ripping a tail off.Fuck T tails
>>2084302Toll paid but the PIC was the boomer that flew into a thunderstorm
>>2084302Their skin color looks hardly any different. That guy is mixed race himself.
>>20843251 drop
>>2084171This crash, nor the female CFI who rammed an A-star like 3 days ago, nor the female blackhawk pilot who took down a regional jet, nor the female FO who rolled a regional jet, nor the female pilot who, nor the female FO who stalled Colgan, nor the female FA-18 pilots who flew into a mountain, nor the female Robinson pilot who hit a huge 2000' tower in Houston....none of them had them contemplating their plebbit world view and this won't either. They will continue to say "um ackshually the data says women are BETTER pilots than men!!!!" and nothing will stop them, except maybe an incompetent female pilot who gets them killed
>>2084321Every time one of these happens people go wild with speculation. Personally I don't think the flight path it took down is consistent with losing the horizontal stab at altitude. The aircraft either would have cartwheeled or turned full lawn dart immediately after separation, not minutes later. There's supposedly radar cross sections showing they entered a 45000 ft cell and they were at the tail end of it upon losing control- if that's the case its quite possible they hit wind sheer that was too much for the size of aircraft they were in, and the old guy and girl couldn't maintain control before they entered into an unrecoverable dive.Either way, guess we will see what the NTSB says. I doubt there's going to be a black box to recover.
I'm just a rotard with my fixed commercial addon but I'm fairly certian you could induce mach tuck from a shearing headwind.From there an incompetent captain and an FO too busy screaming to ATC botch recovery and die
>>2084312Ok, and now per, say, 100k pilots/driver please.
>>2084154Sounds like they are out of time
>>2084333you dont even have to. since flying became the trendy girlboss thing to do they have been wreaking absolute havoc at all levels. as students, as CFI's, as low-time commercial pilots, in the military...you name it they are crashing
pol is having a field day with this onehow do we not let these incel chuds win? what would we have done to prevent this, /n/? more trainings?
>>2084340Billy Graham rule for flight instructors and examiners
>>2084150Where did it go?
>>2084321Call it an icing scenario or simply call it an incompetent flight crew that flew into a storm and encountered severe turbulence. Either is a safer bet that the retarded boomers trying to spread conspiracies about an Avenger shooting it down or the whole thing being AI to make Drumpf look bad during the mid terms (lmao!)
>>2084294It was kind of weird how his family just posted the crash and funeral photos on his channel community posts, showing his body repeatedly.
>>2084343that is one fast way to get to hell
once she started screaming that they were descending at 30k feet per second or whatever and the ATC was audibly struggling not to laugh, was it just over at that point? was there anything they could have done to recover or was it just over?
>>2084347They could have survived by jumping up right before impact.
>>2084322POC PIC
I keep seeing people say this is by far the hardest cockpit audio they've ever listened to. Thoughts?I'm sure I've heard plenty of recordings that were equally as bad or worse.
>>2084150>Be Floridaman>trying to drive home before your street floods from another storm>Loud bang and massive firey explosion just behind your truck>*keeps driving, doesn't even change lanes to pull to the side of the road*just another day in florida
>>2084352Only twittards and redditors would think that it's hard. You hear more impactful things in movies.
>>2084352the ok at 01:30 is so cutehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B229-KLudTo&t=1m30s>tfw will never have a daughter to protecc
I'm genuinely impressed that they somehow missed all those power lines
>>2084356they'll still need replacement, bad day for the insurance company huh
5 bucks says they forgot to turn on deicing
>>2084356she flew it into a water main though, way bigger pain to fix.
>>2084321I bet Belka is behind this somehow
>>2084359no big deal i'm sure some white cuck is out there today fixing itanything for muh princess
You Motherfuckers! She had Fucking 1300 hours in a Learjet 60! She was a very well trained and skilled pilot. Stop Fucking besmirching her reputation!
>>2084343Into the backrooms
>>2084358They already said they were managing some icing, so I expect that once they hit the storm cell the deice got overwhelmed
>>2084362We can't all be like Sully who came out of the womb with 20,000 hours.
>>2084361Weird projection
>>2084321IIIRC, the Learjet they were flying only had an engine bleed air deicing system. I'm admittedly not a planefag so I'm not sure what difference that would make. I'd love to see someone smarter than me do a breakdown on this plane's service history too because aren't you supposed to spray some anti-icing shit on the wings if you're going to be flying in icing conditions?
>>2084367Bleed air deicing typically protects the leading edges of the wings, stabilizers and engine inlets. If the supercooled water droplets were large enough, they could form ice behind the areas that are protected by such a system. This would result in an increase of weight and drag, a decrease in lift, and affect the overall stall characteristics of the plane.The anti/deicing spray you’re probably thinking of is only designed to get the plane from the ground to just after takeoff since bleed air systems are usually switched during takeoff (bleed air systems reduce engine power because they pull compressed air from the engine that would otherwise be turned into power. On takeoff they want all the power possible). Shortly after takeoff, the anti/deice systems will be switched back on.
>>2084367That stuff is to get rid of ice before takeoff. During flight you use other stuff like engine bleed, ice boots etc. De-icing fluid isn't gonna stay on the plane at 500mph. Unless you made it out of gorilla glue but that would cause other problems.
Already the conspiracy schizos are saying it wasn't a plane, but a missile.
>>2084331Now that's a reasonable take. For speculation, it's a whole jump to go from possible icing to IT WAS ICING THAT BROUGHT IT DOWN. I'm sure the photo analysis autists will be able to get the pictures contrast looking better from the dashcam to judge the tail better, and while I don't see any horizontal stab, I admit it may just be hard to see against the gloomy overcast background.>>2084345Why jump to ice when you can simplify it to a Loss of Control. That's what in fact happened, regardless of the cause. Ice doesn't fuck with jets like it does props, and it's far easier to speculate a coffin corner stall/overspeed due to moderate to severe turbulence. Maybe the PF pitched up too hard trying to get climbed and stalled it, maybe wind shear or turbulence was the instantaneous cause. Maybe it was accumulated ice, whether clear, rime or SLD. Maybe it was a loss of the horizontal stab, whether caused by turbulence or a missing bolt/etc. Control was lost, don't push it further without admitting it's speculation, or else you'll be another Captain STEEEVEE wannabe.>>2084367I looked at a Lear 60 manual on internet archive, assuming it's the right type here's what I see. Wing anti-ce is from the engine bleeds, and Horizontal stab anti-ice is from electric heating elements. Page 2-49 or p76https://archive.org/details/xxi-3-learjet-h-51-lj-60-o-afm-r-37-30-nov-2009/>>2084360
>>2084352The fact that is a woman makes it hard to listen to, I guess, since we naturally tend to feel more bad towards women that are in distress than when it’s a man
>>2084373that's true they are innocent and pure and need protection
>>2084321It is mad how all the fucking normies who don't know anything about planes come out the woodwork to speculate when one crashes.
All this time I’ve only felt bad for the two pilots. My mind hasn’t even thought one single minute about the other people on the plane. I just don’t feel that much empathy for millionaire, I guess.
Wasn't the alarms like blaring saying "Whoop Whoop! Pull up!"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omBsDqzzZ1Y&t=155sAnd she couldn't hear that?
>>2084377>F18>plap plap plap
>>2084376>work hard>save up instead of buying cheetos and 4chan passes>start a business and risk all your shekels>hire people and pay them money so they can buy cheetos and 4chan passes>become successful>die in a crash>anon doesn't care because you had money
>>2084374if she had married me and stayed home to take care of our children then she'd still be alive rn, just saying
>>2084378That seems fake for the F18.
>>2084359The spot where the plane crashed is a potential future sink hole even after they repair the water main, like their ghosts are just going to haunt that particular spot for decades now.
>>2084382Absolutely ghoulish.
>>2084380but then she wouldn't have been empowered and wouldn't have experienced ultimate progress
No sir, not getting out of this chair.
>>2084385I WILL NOT BOW
>>2084292I like how I can tell it's a D3A
I gotta be honest, I felt way less bad for them when I discovered they were brown. Her tiktok is full of POV flying videos set to rap. An insane amount of recording for an operating crewmember. All during critical phases of flight. Women and niggers have no business in aviation.
are they dead or alive at this exact moment?
>>2084391Dead, 100%
>>2084391Pilots are dead, most of everyone else alive, but screaming.
>>2084391The fastest our brains can process information is estimated to be around 15ms, but for the average person this can be somewhat slower, meaning they were probably dead before they even knew it
>>2084391whatever electrical signals their brains were sending at this moment are being transmitted into the concrete
>>2084395yea maybe but it's kind of like zeno's paradoxes. when you move through space weird stuff starts happening to how you are located in timeto be in motion is to be almost temporally extended in a wayso especially when you are slamming into the ground at 60k ft/minute then time gets really weird
>>2084348she'd already announced they were way past VNE, thats what tore the tail off. no coming back from that sort of speed
>>2084394>Pilots are dead, most of everyone else alive, enveloped in a compression ignition fireballftfy
Is there anything creative the pilots could have done? Like could they have ejected the cargo hold and maybe that would have kicked it up enough to help them level the plane?
>>2084379Shut up richtoid
>>2084406stay safe mentally ill anon fren
It's 2026 and there are still no parachutes for passengers to help survive situations like this where the pilots kill them.
>>2084411consider your average airline passenger is not equipped or trained to parajump from a crashing aircraft like in GTA retard-kun
>>2084411How do you even plan on getting to the door?
2026 and planes still don't deploy huge parachutes
>>2084414it is that easy
>>2084302Guddam little did she know that would be her coffin.
>>2084414They were in a storm, a parachute would've just flung the plane around like a ragdoll in the wind
>>2084224You see that white cloud? That’s the plane. The force of impact turned it into literal dust.
>>2084340Snitches get stitches.
>>2084297>>2084297Imagine being her Dad and finding out that your hobby killed your daughter. Fuck man. I would never let my girl take on "manly" hobbies.
>>2084340Who cares? I would like to know who we hear reciting the lords prayer in the background audio.
>>208442755 years old Jeff Gregory. He was the pilot of the plane.
>>2084340Ban women, niggers and other undesirables from cockpits.
>>2084424I believe that's the fuel before ignition. Most of the plane would have gone straight into the ground first before blowing out.
>>2084416what exactly do you attach it to without ripping the hull apart?
its uphttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03wk6hVbd7o
>>2084435Buy an ad.
Would a water landing have faired them any better?
>>2084434Planes that have these systems have to be designed around them and have to be properly used. A nosedive like this a parachute would have just torn apart doing fuckall.
>>2084437At that speed no.
>>2084439y tho?
>>2084440Water surface tension turns it into like hitting cement at speed.
>>2084364takes some time for those systems to work, if they just turned it on 1 minute before hitting the storm cell RIP
>>2084440there is nothing they could have landed on at Mach 0.9 that would have stopped them from turning into soup
Assuming the pilots did what they could ( they probably didn't )Are airliners weather radars good to avoid this situation?
>>2084147>k lemme know whatcha needatc be like
>>2084419i think deep down she probably knew
Why hasn't anyone ever tried the jumping out of the plane right before it hits the ground trick? You should need to time it right.
>>2084452Unfortunately fall damage is still in effect.
>>2084457no put they push upwards jumping up off the plane as it is falling to counter the fall.
Is this what happened?
>>2084458They patched that out in the beta,In reality though, jumping out could have at least left corpses to bury. Terminal velocity in a flat position is about 120mph for a human and around 180mph head first.
Just crazy.
Whats the chance of the NTSB taking so long to release the pilots names and the guy being a muslim? Trying to fly it into mar a lago? Better luck next time Abdul
>>2084462The pilots names are already out. Media is doing damage control due to the young female copilot. Pilot was >>2084429
>>2084459complete AI slop with verifiably wrong info and images on it>>2084436this ain't /v/ kid, kys. Thanks blancolirio for opening up a 777 LAX FO slot for me
>>2084468>reddit spacingOpinions discarded.
>>2084331opinion vloggers that don't seem insufferable seem to be saying similar, that aircraft coming apart would be more likely after overspeed reached.>I doubt there's going to be a black box to recover.What do you mean and why? Like, there isn't one on the aircraft to find? or that its probably lost in the wreck? and what makes you think so?
>>2084169forgetting the updooters for a moment;lets be honest. even amongst channers, unless you're a regular in looking for mortality content, or work in a field where you would be more likely to encounter such a thing, and don't live in the 3rd world, the recording is an unnerving death knell of being in mortal peril and helplessness that brushing against, even with warning, would rightly give a normal person some anxiety.
>>2084475>even amongst channersyou have no idea how many people had an opinion on the Ukraine war and got normalized to the ample supply of footage. the ATC recording did chill me the first and second time but after that it wore off (it got quoted in a few yt videos after going over it on twitter)
>>2084474Part 135 generally doesn't require a Flight Data Recorder, and often doesn't require a Cockpit Voice Recorder either. This jet likely had a CVR, but I have my doubts that the CVR will be anything other than mashed potatoes at the bottom of the parking lot pit.
>>2084484>That water contains 9 dead bodies and most of a mid sized jet.
>>2084485>Remember that you are dust and to dust you shall return.
>>2084147People will think this is real
>>2068428Wow, imagone they'd have paid the operating costs behind that flight to the beraved families insteadNot that ZOG-enablers deserve amything but spite
>>2084466That's silly since an old man was the captain and the problem wasn't flying skills so much as flying into a goddamn storm.
>>2084498Austin to the Bahamas is a long trip for a lear 60 with 7 passangers (even if two are toddlers) and luggage, they probably didn't have enough reserves to deviate around the weather and didn't want to land to get more fuel so they threaded the needle instead. Their destination was forecasted to be IFR. They needed fuel for the flight, plus an alternate, plus 45 minutes. This is going to turn out to be a series of mistakes, starting with flight planning.
>>2084501Makes sense, I wouldn't get anywhere near that shit myself.
>>2084236I don't know about the US but where I work we do not have live weather radars. We have some data from MET but ground radars are mostly blocked by clouds near the ground.In stormy weather, detecting a cell from the ground is not a precise science.
>>2084501>their destination was forecasted to be IFRDo you even know what you're saying?
>>2081487>>2081491>>2081493>>2081495>>2081498So how many flight hours have you accumulated across how many different aircraft?
>>2084385EUSTACE-
>>2084387>D3AAckchyually...
