We had to destroy the plane in order to save it edition.Crashes year to date:https://aviation-safety.net/database/year/2026/1Last thread:https://boards.4chan.org/n/thread/2062242/
WE GAAN
KC-135 down over Iraq
>>2067583Non-civilian plane crashes in warzones/warzone adjacent regions don't seem like they should count to be honest
>>2067584It's not a "war" though so this counts
>>2067585unlike the rest of the "war on terror", the president explicitly said he intends to go to war with the country of iran rather than any non-state group within it as was done with the taliban, al-qaeda, etc>>2067583lmao, defence industry stonks MOONING soon, cant w8 to cash out the day its replacement gets delivered in 2053
>>2067585The US hasn't declared 'war' since 1942, quibbling about legal technicalities is dumb
>>2067588>The US hasn't declared 'war' since 1942And for good reason, since no conflict that the US has fought since 1942 was ever in defense of the US mainland, so it makes far more sense to call them special military operations, since no US civilian lives or infrastructure are actually under threat, thus no military actions that might put US civilians or infrastructure at risk are actually carried out, thus they don't require direct Congressional authorization
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>>2068428Still not as cool as the King 747 flight done in the last 747 to roll off the assembly line.
>>2068428Why isn't it an israeli flag? That is very antisemitic of him.
LGA Incident where a CRJ-900 collided with a fire truck while landing.
It's so bad.
>>2068497I can't speak for any of the passengers but I'd be surprised if the pilots made it out of that one
>>2068499glad im not at lga
Atc should be publicly executed. Sick of living in a no-responsibility world.
>>2068497>>2068501Headcrush maximum.
>>2068499Both pilots reported dead at scene, unsurprisingly.
why are vehicles on the runway at night
>>2068504Musk has blood on his hands. He fired all the competent ATC people so he could pocket a few billion more.
>>2068511Why do you people need a 'villain' to latch on to and insert into every conversation?
audio https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/1s16taa/aircraft_collides_with_a_fire_truck_on_runway_4/
https://nypost.com/2026/03/23/us-news/air-canada-laguardia-plane-crash-audio-captures-moments-before-fatal-collision/ATC is cooked, fire truck shares partial fault for target fixation>>2068510responding to 2x rejected takeoff and smoke in cabin from a united 737 (possible engine fire)>>2068509they were ejected and found on a taxiwaythe stewardess was dangling from the jumpseat
>>2068497>Front fell off.I'd like to point out that's not very typical.
The republic of orange miggerville continues its triumphant march.
>>2068517>fire truck shares partial fault for target fixationThis. Afaik you are supposed to look both ways before crossing a runway, even when you have clearance. I don't know if airport fire fighters are trained to do that. But considering that not following some basic safety standards can cause more trouble than that with you've started with.You start with one, probably empty plane with smoke, and then you end with two deaths and a plane full with potential injured people, and probably you wouldn't be able to help because you've just been hit with a plane.
>>2068530Firefighters don't have to follow things like laws, rules, regulations, or common sense. They are HEROES and the plane should stop for them.
>>2068530from hearing someone who knows more than me 4-22 is a little sloped so its hard to see at the other endand the fire truck is a literal piece of military equipment (oshkosh striker...curb weight of 87k lbs if its a 6x6 which might be related to the stryker it was fully loaded up too so probably like hitting a solid chunk of steel). its also a 3 seater with poor side-side visibility with the driver in the seat i have a feeling it was heat of the moment thing too where they rush and don't think but they did have clearance 100% feel bad for the atc desu i think the 4 critical might include the arff guys i also heard they might be okay and it was passengers.
>>2068517Does LaGuardia normally have only one ATC working air and ground frequencies at the same time?
americans just can't stop crashing airplanes, can they?eurochads keep winning
>>2068539You'd be surprised how many plane crashes and incidents occur in places outside of the US. Most countries just have control over the news and the plane crashes don't come out until years later.
>>2068546This is some weird ameriburger cope. Most countries are not North Korea, it's pretty hard to hide it when anything larger than a King Air B200 crashes unless it was a stolen plane flying drugs in the peruvian amazon
Why did they even have to cross the runway
>>2068548to get to the other side
Names of AC8646 crash pilots released as Captain Antoine Forest and First Officer Mackenzie Gunther
>>2068530They should literally have a tablet in the cab, showing the airport and all planes, should not need to ask ATC for permissionThis back and forth yes/no radio bullshit has caused all the recent big accidents
>>2068558So it looks like the truck driver did see the plane coming at the last minute and tried to swerve
>>2068548It was responding to another plane that had a ground emergency.
Captain Steve on youtube said the last time LGA had a fatality was on March 22, 1992 (also March 22). What did the universe mean by these?
>>2068558>that last second rotation attemptWorse than JIA5342.
>>2068563Don't fly in or out of LGA on March 22.
>>2068528Damn dude I didn't know Trump himself was in the control tower, man sure is busy. You retards are just as insufferable as the retards who put Biden "I did that" stickers on fucking gas pumps
>I messed up-ATC
>>2068531Yes, but most likely it won't. And it will kill anyone that makes them.>>2068536They're though but they're not exactly military. Considering what happened, it seems something is really wrong with airfield standards, or ARFF training. Now, the ATC did really fucked this up, but I wouldn't blame him on having to manage 2 frequencies on his own.>>2068556Afaik, they have ground radio but not local/tower and approach. If they can listen one of those frequencies at least they could be more aware of planes.
>>2068539>>2068547AV Herald proves you wrong.
>>2068594lga training is more lax imo, i will say lga is dangerous purely from the high speed exits (short rwys) + amount of planes on such a small airport but i do agree they share the blame for not looking (to be fair they were with company) lga like dca closes at 12am so there's a mad rush before closing of arrivals that said arff was likely in the heat of the moment, he was likely still on ground radio (ground lets you cross runways on their frequency unless its super busy then they'll tell you to change frequency). the alert probably got to their head. i personally keep flightradar24 gold on my personal cellphone and leave it open if i feel unsure of anything, its helped me when its ifr/super foggy or snowing out or when i want to see how far a plane is out before crossing a rwy. they train us not to cross unless absolutely necessary.
>>2068597LGA had a working runway status light system in operation as can be seen by the not shitty cropped video. The red hold lights turned off as the aircraft passed the taxiway like it was supposed to. Aren't you guys trained to not cross if the red lights are on? I know you aren't supposed to cross without tower clearance even with the lights out, but I assumed you followed the status system in addition to looking both ways before crossing the street.
>>2068602yeah that's why im chalking it up to red mist/target fixation from the alert, dude wasn't looking and crossed once he received clearance someone i know did say that 4-22 is sloped so its more difficult to see things at a distance and those trucks have you sitting in the middle (3 seater)
>>2068595when was the last fatal airliner crash in Europe?
>>2068606germanwings 9525 in 2015 where the pilot intentionally flew into a mountain
>>2068603Former navy maintenance guy here. Very little experience crossing runways in a vehicle, but I do have had to cross the landing area on a carrier many times. So bear with me if this sounds retarded.When crossing the LA, we're taught to ask permission from the arresting gear officer, and when receieved, to book it across so that we can check tools and give the thumbs up. No one ever wastes time with looking to make sure that a jet isn't about to land. But even if we did see a jet coming towards the carrier, we would probably assume it's coming back around for a second go.I imagine this is much more hectic on at a real airport with multiple active runways. Even if the driver had checked, how realistic is it to recognize that an approaching plane is about to land on YOUR runway, especially in the dark on a rainy night? How would you know it wasn't waved off or headed for a different runway?
>>2068609It was already on the ground, they must’ve been able to see it
>>2068607so 11 years without fatal crash in EUcompared to every year occurrence in burgerlandreally makes you think
>>2068606>>2068607The most recent fatal airline crash in Europe was Swiftair Flight 5960 in November of 2024 from Germany to Lithuania involving a Boeing 737-400. The plane crashed into a two story house and only the pilot was killed. Likewise, only the pilot and co-pilot were killed in the recent crash at LaGuardia
>>2068612That fireball, and the copilot didn't die? Is he made of asbestos?
>>2068609There are only 2 runways at LGA and they are at a 90 degree angle, so there is only one direction to look
>>2068595no U
>>2068628One strip of pavement = 2 runwaysThere are 4 runways at LGA
>>2068637no, 2 runways. unless you can land planes in opposite directions simultaneously
>>2068638I mean technically you could it’s just not recommended
>>2068558MUTTLAND IN ONE IMAGEMIGAism is a death cult.
>>2068556>should not need to ask ATC for permissionYeah lets just let ground drive around active runways with no communication, that'll be great
>>2068644Do you need ATC's permission before you merge onto a highway? The EXACT real time position of planes is public info..
https://www.youtube.com/live/SxDklYVkioU>we have a big fancy system designed to prevent this shit>it only works if you equip your vehicles with transponders which of fucking course they didn’t do>also one of the busiest hours has the least controllers in the clock because third shift is for suckers
>>2068645>Do you need ATC's permission before you merge onto a highway? The EXACT real time position of planes is public info..Are you actually retarded?
Looks like Eglin AFB is at it again!
>>2068651>big fancy systemdid they refer to indemex, i know lga ops has that but its annoying and kinda useless and goes off anyways if you have clearance (its meant more for situations where you're in between 2 taxiways and you could go accidentally into the runway safety area imo). we have it in most of our vehicles at jfk but it'll still blare and go off if you have clearance to cross (or you're on/close to the runway at all)>>2068644i kinda agree, not necessarily drive across active runways w/o clearance but a tablet that's linked to saab aerobahn or even flightradar would help a lot with this stuff. saab aerobahn shows location of planes and any ground vehicles/targets on the movement areas and its shared between ops + atc (ie if i close twy a btn twy a1 and a4 at the ops desk it gets reflected in the tower and arff)>>2068609i mean we have 2 parallel runways there's rarely a go-around if its on coming towards you its probably gonna land 9/10 times. it can look close when they're 5-10 statute miles and they're landing on 22R and 22L but once its 2-3 miles out you can tell pretty easily
>>2068558Air traffic radio with animation: >>>/wsg/6115872
Thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUY1E6HdxGU&list=RDHUY1E6HdxGU&start_radio=1
>>2068720Who pays for all this shit? Like is there a crash surcharge sent to airlines when an airport has to hang on to the wreckage?
>>2068721presumably the NTSB pays the bills as part of their investigation, but I think JetBlue would charge a crash fee
>>2068553>Mackenzie Guntherthe first chick I cummed in
>people who blame that DC helicopter/plane crash on the route/ATC/whateverAnd not the clown military aviation who LIE repeatedly about having the plane in sight
>>2069295It can be more than one thing
>>2072588Shitty slopreccing filter on phones these days ruining every picture taken.
>americans are trying to crash an airliner againseriously stop already, you're making the whole industry look bad
Does anyone have the video of the guy getting hit by the Frontier plane?
>>2073107The thread with the fedex thumbnail has it, it's like infrared or something so not as exciting as you are imagining. Also indians reeeeeee indians (as a plane foamer it is apparently my moral duty to seethe about them 24/7 no matter the topic)
you can listen to the UPS2976 pilots last moments because of AI nowthe NTSB released the CVR spectrograms in the docket but didn't realise that anyone with time and AI can recreate the audio from themhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/OXEbB8rw39git's a little noisy because of image compression, but the pilots and the alarms are clear as day
>>2074091>and AIlmao
>>2068645yes
Another saarliner failurehttps://x.com/visegrad24/status/2062541959797809390
>>2075099pilot error?
>>2074109I mean, if you have programming skills you could just code something to read the spectrogram and output the audio that way.Or you can be based and kill several fish to do it in minutes.
>>2075099How did Boeing's stock not do a nose-dive after that incident?Is shit like that already priced in at this point?
>>2075179Because in the real world your oft regurgitated juvenile meme's don't hold sway.
Two helicopters crashed in Brazil.Why are helicopters so dangerous?
>>2076022wings faster than fuselage, etc
>>2076023Karma for culturally appropriating traditional 80s clothing. My culture is NOT a costume to be worn for laughs.
https://x.com/Breaking911/status/2067111073665147217Another
>>2076107
>>2076108
>another week, another american jet crash
Happening incoming What an unfortunate turn of event.Ivan what did you do with the Pantsir ?
>>2076115you're retarded
Ubisoft co founder, and head of Thrustmaster dead, w. flight instructor.
>>2076411I was sadder when Oliver Tree died to be honest
Bell 214 crash in Greece a few weeks back. Lost power and exploding tranny>>2076022More complicated to fly, more things can go wrong with a rotor than fixed wings, used for more complicated missions and terrain (not just flying from point a to point b)
>>2078012>Greece High Definition
anyone have the pic of the Delta Airlines flight 191 crash at Dallas Fort Worth where it shows people sitting in the seats in the back half - the plane ripped open and the front half kept going. I remember seeing it in the newspaper but nothing on line.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/ahmedabad-tragedy-supreme-court-accepts-pilot-dads-plea-not-to-make-air-india-crash-report-public/articleshow/132694428.cmsplease do not redeem the final report saar
>>2076023I still don’t know who Oliver tree is or why people are söying over his death. I heard one of his songs and it was dogshit
Why is it so hard for people to POINT THE FUCJING CAMERA AT THE THING THEYRE FILMING????
>>2078012
https://x.com/RapidReport2025/status/2092308281716883885
>>2076023Seems like his life didn't actually go on, and he didn't miss you if you was the ground.
What's your favorite plane crash and why is it PSA Flight 182? It's the most ghoulish plane crash in American history.
>another month, another big plane crash in burgerlandwhen will they learn to fly?
>>2081467When they stop hiring from India(ATC Audio)https://files.catbox.moe/qo68zm.mp4
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>>2081476What do you think they were saying in that cockpit after they realized it was too late?
>>2081477SAMIR YOU ARE BREAKING THE PLANE
>>2081224>for memestenerife disaster because we gaan>for realUnited 232>well this scenario can't happen>ok well it happened and now your plane is uncontrollable>fine you're controlling it with engines but you're going to crash into the earth eventually, nobody can save you>the ringer of all ringers is on board, the absolute best pilot trainer for this aircraft and same insane scenario>you manage to land>on a runway>with over a 50% survival rate>simulators couldn't even come close to making the same landingShit is unrivaled in sheer absurdity
>>2081476were they trying to redeem a tesla?
>>2081479>United 232Based.
>>2081476Would have been funny if they plowed into those BEVs. An unstoppable chain reaction fire for days.
>>2081479Real war thunder oldfags have survived several landings in war thunder using only engine control
>>2081483>war thunderGay babby shit.
>>2081487Compared to what? 'Sims' based on 1980s tech?
>>2081488>casual gamer npc gets mad
>>2081491Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 doesn't have detailed damage simulation.
>>2081492>being such a casual gamer that you can only name one flight sim
>>2081493Everything else pales in comparison, X-Plane boy.
>>2081494>the cringe continuesYou keep comparing civ sims to an arcade combat game and come across as a console or mobile weenie.
Look I get it, you paid like 30 million for your 'advanced military sim', but you need to understand that almost all of that was licensing and red tape.
>>2081496You play a free arcade game, get a grip on reality you cringelord.
Boeing and screaming, iconic duo.
>>2081509saw this IRL, the bangs were insanely loud.
>>2081510yeah it's totally Boeing's fault that they landed halfway down the runway and didn't realize that's not going to work
All accidents could be prevented if we replaced pilots with AI.
"go arounds are for quitters"- pilot flying, probably
>>2081469>>2081476>>2081477>Approach was too high, too fast.>Touched down around 5000 foot point on a 9300 foot runway>No speed brakes deployed>no reverse thrust usedYeah the CVR is going to be interesting to hear.
CVR>06:02 A pilot called for flaps to be set to 1 degree.>04:18 The flight crew checked in with Miami tower and were cleared toland on runway 30.>02:53 A pilot called for flaps to be set to 5 degrees.>02:37 The flight crew lowered the landing gear.>02:14 A pilot called for flaps to be set to 15 degrees.>01:42 A pilot called for flaps to be set to 20 degrees, and the other pilot cautioned they were too fast. The other pilot made additional comments regarding the aircraft’s excessive speed throughout the remainder of the recording. There was not a consistent verbal response to the comments about speed.>01:23 Sounds consistent with autopilot disconnect.>01:12 Electronic “one thousand” callout.>01:04 Electronic “sink rate sink rate” callout.>00:58 Electronic “five hundred” callout.>00:57 Electronic “sink rate sink rate” callout.>00:54 Electronic “one hundred” callout.>00:50 Electronic “minimums” callout.>00:48 Electronic “too low terrain” callout. Annunciated four times.>00:41 A pilot called for flaps to be set to 30 degrees.>00:40 Electronic “forty” callout.>00:39 Electronic “too low terrain” callout.>00:36 Electronic “ten” callout.>00:31 Sounds similar to the aircraft touching down.>00:15 A pilot called for a go-around.>00:10 Sounds similar to the aircraft departing the paved surface.>00:00 The CVR recording ended.
FDR>00:30 The nose and right main gear touched down at a groundspeed of 158 knots.>00:23 The brakes were applied at a groundspeed of 146 knots.>00:19 The left main gear touched down at a groundspeed of 134 knots.>00:15 Brakes were released at a groundspeed of 120 knots and throttles were increased to a value consistent with go-around thrust.>00:11 The throttles were reduced to idle power and the brakes were re-applied. The groundspeed was 117 knots. The throttles remained at idle, and brakes remained applied until the end of the recording.>00:07 Recorded lateral, longitudinal, and vertical acceleration values changed markedly; the FDR data indicated a groundspeed of 96 knots.>00:00 The FDR recording ended. The final recorded groundspeed was 65 knots. There was no indication in the recorded data that speed brakes or thrust reversers were deployed.https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/DCA26MA352.aspx
>>2081774>>2081775So, shit CRM or rather destroy the parcels than pay a go around fine?
>>2081778>pay a go around fineIs that a thing?
>>2081805I really don't know. But there were accidents due to people trying to save fuel, time or just save face. And that's just culture and hubris. It happens in the best families. But a gap on training is more likely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjYq4XwUdHk
>>2082104autorotation bros...your response?
>>2082105"mayday"
>>2082105Why weren't they orbiting?
>>2082105You can hear the gearbox tearing itself apart in that vid. Too low to autorotate.On the video, you hear the engine spooling up, then the overspeed warning horn, (beep beep beep beep), then spooling down, then the low RPM warning, single long beep right before impact. You also hear the pilot say "fuck!" and the reporter ask if they can go up--- then impact. Wreckage shows the rotors weren't spinning at time of impact.
