MD11 edition
I can't wait for single pilot 121 ops. No more flying with retards anymore.
was driving by instruments last night, we're gonna re-open tomorrow at noon
>>2066386Surely you guys didnt takeoff in that weather?
>>2066413we had a emirates a380 take off at 1am and a ups that tried right before and went back to gate (winds too strong + inconsistent)airport reopened at 2pm its still a iced over mess
>>2066294Too bad you have no jet time
>>2066530Poast type ratings or seethe
What are some non aviation jobs you can get if you dont have a degree but have at least a private cert>t. tradefag wanting white collar work
>>2066595You could probably get into a data analyst position doing FOQA monitoring, but I don't know what the job market there is like.
Any A&P's here?
>...h-help uswhat do you guys think about the final report on the death of TN Flygirl and her father?ATC audio:>youtube.com/watch?v=6xZgzGQacy0lots of vids online now from all your favorite youtubers too.
>>2066294You think pilots will ever be 100% automated? Thinking about starting flight training soon
>>2066874why are you replying to the retarded ragebaitfaggot?is there something wrong with your head?you know pilots arent supposed to be mentally challenged, right?better dont start the flight training, otherwise you may end up like TNFlygirl
>>2066875Idk I have a friend whose a pilot and he’s retarded, figure it couldn’t be that hard to automate
>>2066876Don't start the training, planes will all fly by themselves withint the next 8 years
>>2066874Aircraft has been 95% automated for the last 50 years. The only thing keeping two pilots in the cockpit are the unions who are influencing the FAA/congress. There's no current automation for ground ops, not that there couldn't be, and most autopilots can be turned on by 200-400 feet AGL on takeoff and not shutoff until 200ft AGL or less on landing. Those same autopilots can usually autoland but company rules say you may autoland in certain conditions. Point being, the tech has been there for years, and we still have two pilots. ALPA and others continue to lobby to keep pilot jobs. The first place you'll see """automation""" is in all-cargo flights over oceanic airspace. a 4 pilot heavy crew may reduce to a 3 pilot augmented crew, or otherwise either crew may turn into only 1 pilot being required in the cockpit during oceanic cruise and the other guys snoozing in the bunks. Until you see that, don't worry one iota about airline pilot jobs. Grow a pair you little bitch.
>>2066878>company procedureslmao enjoy your CATIII with a widebody on the CATI holding point you retard
>>2066883you say that like it matters? finish your 1500 hours before you mouth off to me mr zero jet time
>>2066888what equipment your on and how many hours PIC on that you fat cunt
>>2066889>75/76>5700 hI don’t know the total time exactly, the airline tracks it for me.
>>2066890well get fucked anyways for your retard comments>95%
>>2066861I don't need the audio to see from the flight logs she was fighting the plane because she didn't fully understand her plane. Pilot error.
>>2066892>Pilot error.yeah obviously, still interesting to see
>>2066861>>2066892woman moment
Has anyone ever flown JSX before? They serve some useful spots near me and I like the concept.
>>2066861Classic case of someone that shouldn't be a pilot able to pay their way to it. The DPE should be under investigation for letting someone who is so clearly lacking all types of piloting skills to obtain a certificate.
>>2066960im thinking it might have also looked like a smaller problem on the PA28, that has been embiggened by her new high performance aircraft
Nothing cringer than McDonnell Douglas aircraft.
>>2066874The guy you're replying to is most likely a homosexual Indian with no jet time. Go to flight school.
>>2066943Hello fellow bus chad. F9?
>>2066861>>2066892>>2066893>>2066900i'm not really hearing anything crazy, someone blackpill me here, you can't just say "woman moment" the second someone is lost from radio contact
>>2066974Did you read my post or just mass reply like a faggot? She was all over the place fighting her plane because she didn't understand the planes systems. I haven't flown every type out there but usually there is a red button to disable auto pilot right on the yoke. All she had to do was hit that and follow a heading while maintaining altitude. Once she had that done she could call ATC and tell them she was having problems and request vectors.
>>2066976>Did you read my post or just mass reply like a faggot?yeah>She was all over the place fighting her plane because she didn't understand the planes systems. no part of your post demonstrated this, do you have a link or something or do you expect me to be mad about an incident i am hearing about for the first time from a youtube video of basically>hey lady you're not in your lane>yeah we know>hey lady>lady???>lady is not responding
>>2066974https://data.ntsb.gov/carol-repgen/api/Aviation/ReportMain/GenerateNewestReport/193491/pdf
>>2066983thank u for elucidating. kek what a bitch
>>2066984page 11 lists all the meds she was onjuan browne has great videos on her too
>>2066985im not THAT interested but i hope this has taught you a valuable lesson. people will not get mad with you unless they know wtf you are talking about
>>2066986I'm not even the original anon you were talking to you stupid faggot. Now I regret spoonfeeding you, fuck off you no jet time having nigger.
>>2066982the issue is that wimmin don't need to say teehee I'm a pilot look at me. These scum sucking cunts don't have the basic stick and rudder skills to stay aloft. If you can't even fly the aircraft nothing else will save you. She got was coming, and literally (figuratively) flew too close to the sun and got burned.
>>2066990i agree but that anon was still wrong to assume everyone would have enough familiarity with that specific situation to join in the two minute hate session
>>2066992no idea what you're talking about. I don't have to read anything in this thread to know an egirl crashing is a competence issue
>>2066992You're a retarded nigger get the fuck out of this thread
>>2066985Juanito Marron is a faggot, but this woman was a dime a dozen pill popping idiot that was over medicated. The only difference is that she somehow had a pilot's license.
>>2067005>Juanito MarronIdk who that is, I was referring to blancoliriohttps://youtu.be/6772KBIS4Vo
>>2066967(user was JDAMed for this post)
>>2066982You can look up the report, it's out. Go read it yourself.
>>2067006You are a cretin of the highest order.
>>2067020You have no jet time
>>2067038>Implying you do.>Implying you're not swine incapable of the tiniest amount of abstract thinking.
got forced to stay after work for a vpd presentation from hq and i really really wish i could clip the video to repost herewas a near-miss/vpd during the storm jan 25th at swf where tower cleared an allegiant to land as a snow team was still on the runway during snow ops, pilot didn't hear/obey the go-around given after getting landing clearance onto rwy 27, missed the friction tester + 2 blowers as they were coming off the runway by a split secondtrying to find the footage it was genuinely scary glad im seen as too stupid to be trusted leading a snow team around my airport...have a feeling they forced us to watch it because they don't want it getting leaked/screen recorded it honestly could've just been a fucking powerpoint/online meetingboth parties at fault imo pilot deviation + snow ops should've had tower radio on and gotten the fuck off when they heard atc freaking out over not getting a response to their 2nd go around
>>2067041I'm starting a 4 day tomorrow and I have no idea why you're upset at me for not knowing who Juanito Marron is. I'm assuming you're brown and he is some important figure in your lesser culture analogous to the spic who played the halftime show.
>>2067077nta but marron is just spanish for brownhttps://wiki.alsresume.com/index.php?title=Blancolirio_(Juan_Browne)probably refers to this guy
>>2067078Understood, the guy replying to me is a spic upset that I refuse to learn his disgusting mud language. Thanks anon.
>>2067078>be in aviation general>speak language other than Englishyeah that anon was doomed from the start
>>2067063>snow ops should've had tower radio on and gotten the fuck off when they heard atc freaking out over not getting a response to their 2nd go aroundthats ILLEGAL anon you CANNOt have ppl on the ground listen to SECRET AIR COMMUNICATION'S
>>2067063>vpd from hq>reddit spacingwhat the fuck are you on about
>>2066861Not a pilot. But I watched the blancolirio video on that and when I heard she had 'flown' that plane for 200 hours and still didn't understand how to use the trim settings left me dumbfounded. >>2066251Is going through all the schooling worth getting into part 121 or 135 flying at 34?
>>2067165>Is going through all the schooling worth getting into part 121 or 135 flying at 34?Theres a few guys at my school that age and older even. I think taking a discovery flight is a good idea before deciding this is for you. They should really make discovery flights in actual IMC. It would probably save people a lot of money
>>2067180>taking a discovery flightSilly question. How would I go about arranging one of those?
>>2067259Find flight schools near you. The majority of them will take you up for like 100-200 dollars. Just call and ask.
>>2067261ty for the info anon. May also be weird to ask, but do you think they would find it odd if I asked them to lunch either before or after the flight to ask them more about the career/field?
>>2067277Nah that wouldnt be weird, it would be smart. Just don't be surprised if they can't or say no. Most CFIs are busy and have blocks of instruction lined up in advanced. You probably have a better chance of getting to talk to a CFI for an extended period of time if its a Part 61 program rather than Part 141
>>2067277>34Not too old>ask them more about the career/field?Save your lunch money. What do you want to know? I’ve been in the industry 10 years, I’m on my third airline. I can tell you more about 121 ops than any CFI.
I had to call out sick of a trip because the FO I was flying with was so fucking hot that it was making me feel strange and distracting. She made me too uncomfortable. She looked like a Kpop girl, it made my heart skip.
>>2067299Thats pretty goddamn beta
>>2067302well duh, what do you expect? This is 4Channel
>>2067298How do you actually network as someone starting from scrach
I fucking love airports
>>2067435Networking comes naturally as you progress in the industry. Make friends with your CFIs and your regional captains and keep in touch with them as they move on to legacy carriers and they will write you letters of rec. Another, more humiliating option is to attend a job fair and grovel.Guard your reputation as you would your life. When you are starting out, all it takes is one fuck up to torpedo your career. Stay off social media. Assume that everyone you fly with will be your chief pilot someday.
>>2067440man Idk how to even approach a job fair, what if I blurt out mein kempf exceprts
>>2067444I wouldn't recommend it, total humiliation ritual. Get 1500, go to a regional and progress from there.
anyone have any advice for anon taking instrument checkride in the next month or so?
>>2067448NTA but this seemed obvious to me. Wtf is even at a job fair? Weird rando bush pilot/helicopter jobs?
>>2067528I have never been to a small one, but the big ones (nigger/fag/women pilots associations) are for major and legacy carriers. You have to "join" an organization that hates you and wants you dead for the chance to sit down with a recruiter.
What means
>>2067546"essential service" people or people in fields that dont want to strike willy-nilly will fuck up their uniforms on purpose to demonstrate that they are unhappy. it's sorta like flying a national flag upside-down (formerly a real maritime distress signal, now more denoting general dissatisfaction)
>>2067546Every single thing posted by view from the wing and gary leff is just anti AA propaganda. Hes a former AA employee and a giant faggot journo thats trying to get back at an old employer.
>>2067508Don't fuck up. The only people I know who busted their IR ride were total idiots. You need to think calmly and logically about each phase of the flight. Think 1-2 steps ahead of the airplane and always have a plan B in case you fuck something up. Keep your scan going and maintain focus throughout the ride. You can do this.
>>2067530All this affirmative action shit needs to be put to an end. How many more flipped CRJs do we need to realize that hiring people in critical jobs based on gender, race and sexual preference is a mistake? I'm also getting sick of flying with retards that couldn't get a college degree.
Would you get fired for saying bad things about israel and jews?
How THE FUCK do ATCs remember an entire fucking National FIR Map? I'm stumped on how I can even begin to remember the cavalcade of waypoints and VOR reporting areas. I think I'm not gonna ngmi as an ATC bros...
>>2067580I'm glad I made it to the legacies without having to waste time and money on a useless degree, every 85 IQ brownoid has a bachelor's degree now anyways.
>>2067298>What do you want to know?How do you know what schools are ggod and which are not? There are plenty of questions on things I don't even know what to ask. I guess what are some tips for someone just starting out and things to keep in mind.>10 years, I’m on my third airlineIs that typical? Oh I guess wha I really wanted to ask, would it be weird to basically spend most of my career as a FO rather than becoming a captain?>>2067435>>2067444Not me btw
>>2067613>How do you know what schools are ggod and which are not? There are plenty of questions on things I don't even know what to ask. I guess what are some tips for someone just starting out and things to keep in mind.Meet the CFIs and see if you like them and they're not complete retards. Ask to see the fleet schedule. You need to fly your ass off to progress quickly. Treat flight school like a full time job. Sheppard air the writtens and get them done ahead of time.AOPA is a good resource.https://aopa.org/training-and-safety/learn-to-fly/flying-for-fun/choose-where-to-trainJetcareers is good too but I wouldn't bother with APC its full of negative fucks>Is that typical?Somewhat. I was a CA at the regionals and an LCC (pic rel) and furloughed from both before making it to the legacies. If you're motivated, you can make it a lot quicker than that. I got lazy and hung out in the left seat for too long. This industry is a big dumb game of musical chairs, make sure you're in a good seat when the music stops.>Oh I guess wha I really wanted to ask, would it be weird to basically spend most of my career as a FO rather than becoming a captain?Lots of guys stay senior FOs. Your schedule is great and DL/UA/AA FO pay is really good.
>>2067448Did you go right to a regional after 1500 hours? About how much money can you expect to make flying a regional? I assume it is salaried with benefits by that point?>>2067615 >I got lazy and hung out in the left seat for too long. Can you explain this further? I thought pilot in command hours were most important.
>was gearing up to get my flight dispatcher cert next year maybe, then start the career >was thinking i would try to get sun country as a career destination after spending a bit at whatever regional offers me a job first>now sun country is going to get eaten by allegiantwell shit i guess.
>>2067640>Did you go right to a regional after 1500 hours?Yeah>About how much money can you expect to make flying a regional? I assume it is salaried with benefits by that point?Regional pay is ass, FO pay starts around $100/hr and you're gonna credit ~75 so about $90-100k starting out. Just google "[regional] pay scale" when you're getting closer to deciding.>Can you explain this further? I thought pilot in command hours were most important.The only purpose of TPIC should be to get to a legacy/major carrier. I got way too comfortable in the left seat of my shit ass regional and LCC and didn't bother applying out of both until the ship was sinking. I think the wisest career path for you would be to go to a regional, take the first available CA upgrade, and then make it your life's mission to get to the majors. Flows are an option as well but they're kinda overrated imo.
Is cargo flying for like fedex or ups overrated? Not having passenger drama seems like a dream
>>2067666>regional pay is asskill yourself bucko, regional pay is amazing. You're lucky it doesn't sink back down to 2021 rates now that hiring is slow as fuck
>>2067713Legacy guys really have it that good I guess
>>2067762You're right about that there bucko
>>2067713Anon, you can’t raise a white family on regional FO pay. Post pay scales anyway I’m curious what they’re at now, I got out of the regionals in 2019.
>>2067770Envoy jumped the pay scales crazy style in June 2022 and every other regional had get their pay in that range to stay competitive in hiring. Most day 1 FOs at min guarantee are making in the $70k-85k a year range to start.
>>2067770another pilot with rich parents who got him there i presume
>>2067779This is my goal with my boys.
>>2067772$70-85k is kinda rough in today’s economy, I made that in 2016>>2067779I wish. Pic relI had to claw my way out. Grew up middle class, but parents were deep in credit card debt. House foreclosed in ‘08 crash and parents divorced. Mom died before I started flight school, and dad got addicted to drugs and it ruined him. This was a career change for me, I worked in drinking water treatment before I went to ATP. I saved up $20k on my own, financed the rest through sallie mae. >>2067783Same. I want better for my kids. I was always the guy bitter about “rich parents” until I had kids of my own. I have 3 boys each with 529s and Trump accounts. You buying a plane or sending them through flight school?
>>2067790Can't imagine not buying a plane
>>2067797Based, any idea what you want? My plan is to cover most of the overhead and they pay for the CFI and fuel. 529s are backup if they don’t want ratings.
>>2067800I haven’t really thought that far ahead man, it'll be over 5 years out at least. Probably just start with someone's old 152 or something while dreaming of something with a low wing and power.
Our instructor is literally telling us to kill ourselves if we fail ATC training. And you know what, the pressure makes me wanna consider it bwos.
I paid for all my training and then my wife’s medical school. Our rich boomer parents covered maybe 10% the overall cost. Needless to say I’m not putting my kids through the same crucible. Our parents covered for their greed by saying it built character…what a crock. We lived like shit for no reason and now we are getting the early stages of a guilt trip about how we are going to take care of them as they get into their seventies.They’re not bad parents but they just don’t recognize the times. Either way, the cycle ends with our generation and our kids will have every last cent of their education funded.
>>2067902Very based, I feel the same for my kids. That said, I'm not funding a masters degree in feminist dance.
>>2067902>my wife’s medical schoola man funding a woman's education into a male dominated career field never back fires spectacularly
>>2067927>male dominatedright now is still more male overall, but for a few years now there are now more women than men graduating medical school. And of course btw those men arent white.
>>2067935Shes going to spend the majority of her time gossiping with complete whores, and within dick range of rich surgeons. Godspeed anon.
>>2067936Pilot mogs surgeons to healthcare professionals, particularly MD’s
>>2067936Thanks but my wife isnt in medical school, actually I dont have a wife, I dont even have a girlfriend
>>2066840Foreigner aircraft mechanic here, been on the field for 5+ years and currently working doing heavy checks at a MRO. How life going my fellows mechanics?
>>2067936Even resident MD’s and M3/4’s learn to hate nurses and especially NP’s with such a burning passion that they inherit basically none of that whore behavior. If you can land a doctor you do it, but be careful with DO’s they have a massive chip on their shoulder.
>>2068024>3 sonsYeah I have mostly daughters. The good news is that, if I make it to old age, my daughters will care for me at the very end. Bad news is, this gambit will take another 30-50 years to pay off if ever. I need more sons.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Only-3-US-Airlines-Can-Remain-Profitable-at-Current-Oil-Prices.amp.htmlAA bros Im not feeling so good....
>>2068047I'm also 3 sons gang. Just gonna have to make sure they all become little gigachads and marry some cute daughters in law for me.
