Why are trainfags obsessed with HSR when 99% of mechanized passenger travel is local.
They are retardsAnd trains can't even beat planes on cost either, even with the absolute rape stupidity that airports are
>>2068851Your average HSR fan is also probably an even bigger commuter rail fan, but HSR is often more politically feasible than new commuter rail. Also flying sucks, I'd pay a 2x price premium to not step on a plane.
>>2068863>HSR is often more politically feasible than new commuter railThere are new commuter rail projects being built, even in the last 6-7 years, things like expansions to DART or Brightline's Orlando extension or the South Shore Line in Indiana. Meanwhile, the only true HSR project is California, which has pissed away over $15B and never laid a single piece of track.
>>2068851they're mostly americans who are mostly "Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaires" who think they have frequent enough need for interregional travel that it needs to be subsidized, but are also too out of the loop to realize that that meeting could have been on zoom and even that zoom meeting could have been an email
>>2068866clarifying anon: south shore is also just an expansion, not an entirely new line
>>2068851I think the HSR line between LA and Las Vegas is a genuinely good idea though and I'm not even a train autist.
>>2068866>which has pissed away over $15B and never laid a single piece of track.Yes, because securing property rights is a fucking bitch, especially with how inflated land value is in California.
>>2068905>Yes, because securing property rights is a fucking bitch, especially with how inflated land value is in California.Maybe they should've thought about that and correctly priced the estimate before pitching the idea to voters as a $30 billion project.
>>2068851because you can use HSR to extract commuter rail upgradessee CAHSR paying for Caltrain electrification
flying is a humilation ritual
>>2068851>the thing isnt a thing cause it isnt a thingMeans nothing. Completely irrational futuristic jerk off is the only reason plane travel every got off the ground.
Autism and mental illness (redundant)
>>2068851Most aren't, it's dumbfuck leftist voters who are obsessed with HSR because European countries/Japan/China have it (without thinking about the reasons these countries have HSR).