Thinly veiled e-bike containment thread.I bought a Tern Orox to prepare for the Australian madmax fuel apocalypse. Did I fuck up? What else should I have looked at for a cargo hauler with decent range and the ability to ride poorly maintained outback roads?
yea you fucked up.Better hand it over to me
>>2068968>10000aud do you even ride a normal bike?
>>2068970No
>>2068968What is there to even talk about? You bought a mobility scooter anon. These aren't like motorcycles where you want to show them off, and they're not like regular bikes that have any kind of social aspect to them where you can talk about different components or frames or aeromaxxing.
>>2068971kekdo you know how to fix a normal bike at least? thats a big one if you are seriously concened about this
>>2068968>bought a bike that needs electric energy in preparation for rising energy pricesYes you fucked upAll those people in impoverished African countries relying on Buffalo Bicycles for their livelihood are more prepared for a fuel apocalypse than you are with your Chinese toy. Yes you did fuck up
where would you get batteries if you wanted to build your own e-bike?like with a name brand motor unit not a chinese kit
>>2068978those companies make it so you cant use 3rd party batteries
>>2068978You could in theory build your own battery, order battery cells online, wire them together, buy a programmable battery controller and program it yourself, 3D print a housing for all the cells, and wire up an interface for all the cells so you can charge them or wire them to whatever drivetrain you're using. I have a feeling that you won't though because that's an insane amount of time and effort with very little to gain from it.
>>2068978>Google replacement battery for [your motor] >hundreds of results
>>2068978Stackem in the tubes. ;)
an ebike specific thread would be cool since it adds a layer of /diy/ to have some electrics/electronics work along the usual bike wrenching, but /n/ is full of retards who don't wrench let alone solderlast night i finally got around to swapping out my stock handlebars but also finally wiring up my brake cutoffs. nothing complex but involved some splicing. next step is troubleshooting a janky shitty other controller i have that is slightly higher amperage but more importantly came with a cute little screen>>2068978you can get packs off of amazon that come with a charging and management board and digikey will sell you the individual cells for like 2$ each>brand name motorlike what, what are you looking at that isn't chinked as fuck
>>2068968>fuel apocalypseso how're you going to generate enough electricity to charge that thing?in a genuine fuel shortage, you'll go for a normal bike over an ebike every time. you're only using a little bit more food energy than you use ordinarily.
>DIDNT U KNO IRAN INCREASED THE PRICE ??? TRUMP CANT FIX IT !!! EBIKE IS LE BAD BECAUSE (((energy costs)))i looked it up and ausfailia mostly powers itself with coal and has a national oversight board for electricity distribution. oil going up makes EVERYTHING expensive but power generation has a few steps between "sheikh mad" and "rolling blackouts"
>>2069002the high end yamaha/brose motors are made in japan/germany
>>2069028They operate on the same principles and the only meaningful difference among motors is spacing of sensors and number of pins to read them.
>>2069028this full this if you dont buy a Japanese motor you are not a real E-Cyclist.
>ebike ""riders""This is a fucking post... to every FAT FUCK on the road riding a fucking ""E-Bike"". Now, I'm tired of these fat FUCKS popping up in all of my fucking trails when I'm looking for a FUCKING workout! I don't give a FUCK about the aftermath of ANY of you Tech fans that feel sorry for these greasy fucks! You fat fucking disgusting ass-smelling BLAWB, Cheese-drinking, Crisco-bathing, Lard-gargling, Calorie-thieving, Cabbage-Patch Face having, Dr. Robotnik looking, WingStop eating, McDonalds gorging, T-Rex arm having, Non-vegetable eating, Cook with a George Foreman grill just to drink out the drip tray, Wide load, Hungry-Hungry Hippo, PLANET, Pretending to have a fucking thyroid problem, Whale slash Free Willy, Part bus, Yokozuna, Flubber, Kirby, Salad dodger, Chair crusher, Butter ball, Go to subway but put everything on it, Michelin Man, Happy because Hostess is back in business MOTHERFUCKERSI know there's gonna be a lot of people out there calling me a luddite, well guess what? I'M NOT!!I just don't feel sorry for fat fucking people, especially fat fucks who sit there all day, gorge and eat, and get to get around for absolutely nothing! While a bunch of sorry fucks like yourself play into it!You don't like what the fuck I'm saying? Then FUCK YOU!
>>2068968My battery requires 8 hours of charging, where do I even find the time to charge it? I don't want to charge it while I sleep.
>>2069328check if there is a different charger for your bike. They usually ship them with the cheapest and slowest one
>>2069335>cheapest and slowest oneis this dangerous?
>>2069340>cheapestmaybe>slowestmeasurably and objectively no, trickle charging is good for all sorts of batteries currently in wide service. as long as the voltage is correct (a touch higher than the discharge voltage) then low amperage is pretty much guaranteed to not cause any safety issues, though it may hurt the service life of the battery in a non-catastrophic way (and is guaranteed to destroy it in the lamest way possible if it's too low). if the battery has a management system (which even the cheapest CHINKED goods come with now, turns out burning down people's houses is bad for business) it's even safer though might make charging even slower.>>2069328mine takes about 3 but it's a 36v ~10Ah battery, using a 42v 2a charger > I don't want to charge it while I sleep.why not?
Cyclists™ are jealous of ebike chads not for speed or laziness but because Cyclists™ insist that they're real wrenchers but can't even replace their own brakes meanwhile ebike kit chads are becoming junior mechatronics engineers just to make their shit roll at all
>>2069357You're literally riding a mobility scooter
hey guys check out my new e-bike, it has quality electric motors and a range of about 30 miles. It takes awhile to charge but I can just do it while I'm sleeping for 12 hours a day, see guys I'm a cyclist just like you!
>>2069366crazy how one of those is more socially acceptable to ride than picrel
>>2069369That's not an e-bike to be fair, that's an electric motorcycle, which have completely different performance specs and licensing requirements. E-bikes are chinese toys, electric motorcycles are actual vehicles, but they're out of the scope of this thread and board.
>>2069375Incorrect. The Emmo Zone II Max is sold and licensed as a Class 2 (Throttle Controlled Pedal Assist) Electric Bicycle. The pedals just fold up into the frame because laws are stupid and very easy to circumvent.They're also a lot weaker than you think, having performance comparable to 50-100cc scooters, as they pretty much always have even since the sit down car battery powered brushed DC motor scooter days.
>>2069376Oh, then in that case I can completely understand why they aren't socially acceptable to ride. What an absolutely retarded tryhard design for an e-bike. Mobility Scooter fags have gone completely insane.
>>2069377I mean realistically, you can't (or at least shouldn't) take it on the highway, same as a Vespa is a "real" gas engine scooter but also struggles to do 70kmh but does 40-50 comfortably, making it ideal for urban commuting.There are slower gas bikes out there than modern electric "motorcycles" that no one bats an eye at, but replace the 33cc two-stroke with a 3-phase motor and everyone freaks out.
>>2069046
Just bought one of those 2 stroke kits for my bike. gonna blast black smoke in the face of every dentist
>>2069012>mostly powers itself with coalApprox 50% of generation is coal, which yes we do have fuck tons of and yes it is reasonably cheap. The problem though is that electricity prices are set based on the highest source cost, which means that prices get horribly distorted by the price of natural gas. Nationally gas is only something like 7% of generation but it makes everything more expensive because of the Federal government's pants-on-head retarded policy of selling off all the rights to our domestic gas and not mandating a large reserve be set aside for the domestic market, resulting in Japanese and Chinese gas companies extracting our gas, selling it cheaply in their own domestic markets, while selling it back to us at twice the price it should be otherwise and leaving us with no insulation from global supply shocks.This is how you end up with a situation like in South Australia where 70% of electricity is produced by renewables and cause a glut in supply during the day to the point that starting in July electricity will be made free between 11am and 2pm yet the price of electricity is sky high due to the remaining 30% being provided by the baseload gas plant at Torrens Island, which usually kicks in as the sun goes down.
>>2069509political skill issue for not having a reserve or domestic market sales first
my city is just chaos with e-bikes, pedestrians, scooters, runners, cyclists, and cars. you'll be walking along and some mad max looking bike will pass you at 30mph in the bike lane. honestly kinda funny makes everyone mad.
>>2068968>doesn't need to be charged>weighs like 20 lbs on average>exceeds the speed of an ebikewhat did it mean by this[Post a Reply]
>34>have pretty much never driven a car (took a few lessons to get my license at 26 and never drove again)>american, which makes this even more pathetic>have owned a cannondale road bike for around 15 years>have put around 3k miles a year on it>its now nearly 20 years old and I think sadly it might be getting to be time to think about replacing it>feel like with all the use, I should get an e-bike or at least pedal assist, but I am concerned about the cost and additional maintenance upkeep it will takeany thougts here?
>>2069521>>2069519just admit that you're too stupid for electronics
>>2069521ebikes make a lot more sense when you treat them as bad mopeds in a world where a moped can still be a half-decent bikehowever you are an american incapable of thinking for yourself so just go figure out what NJB says about it i guess
>>2069521I'd want to exercise my body as much as possible going into middle and then old age.do you really want to backslide?
Why do americans throw tantrums whenever beyond-15-minute-city transit is available to someone who doesn't have to give their entire life over to the Government?
>>2069519
>>2069568Dont know that they do, but they should as its rescource parasitism.
>framemoggs you
>>2069831I like my electric trike because of the comfort and cargo capacity but it sucks on narrow sidewalks.
Hey bros I just bought an aventon level 3 did I fuck up? panic bought because of gas prices. I'm honestly just fucking sick of paying out the nose for gas I should have ordered it a long time ago
>>2069852The best point of a trike is that in can ride slowly. I just drive slow over rough terrain or narrow paths.
considering just getting a class 1 instead of a faggier motorcycle/trike that people drive on sidewalksgetting kind of annoyed by how expensive they seem to be though
>>2069887KILL YOUSELF YOU FICING LAZY NIGGER YOU DONT BIKE YOU NEVER BIKED
>>2069885>driver's licenses are basically impossible to get without grandfathering>unless you're a boomer or have access to a boomer's car you literally cannot legally challenge a road test>a practical and cheap form of transportation that doesn't need licensing gets popularHOW COULD WE HAVE EVER PREDICTED THIS, IT MUST BE THE CHINKS TRYING TO DESTROY AMERICA WITH COMMUNIST (((fifteen minute))) CITIES
Any reason not to be running a wide seat on an ebike other than "muh range"?
>>2069926As an ebike owner I tend to not want to ride with any seat and enjoy seat tubes going straight into my asshole. #justebikethings
>>2069927Based fellow IT e-biker.
>>2068977Solar.
>>2069521Wheel kit. Dont ever replace a bike. Only endorses disposable culture. Even if its down to just the frame, all parts should be replacable. We you are gassed (biked too far) time constrained, inclement weather (sweating/freezing), the motor replaces you/pulls its own weight same no different than not having it.>>2069525Society is about specialization. He shouldn't have to know. Its a rabbit hole wank.>>2069559No reason you cant go hard as you want, not have to pace yourself/guess about having the energy to go back, make the world flat (eliminate hills), have a hardier built bike, CARRY SHIT WITH NO INPINGEMENT, with a pedal assist.
ebikes do not belong on /n/go back to /o/ and /toy/ you retarded niggerspicrel this is literally what you are doing and what you are like
>>2069973>not have to pace yourself/guess about having the energy to go backUh oh! Looks like your battery ran flat and now you can't get anywhere anymore because you're a retarded fat jeet who can't pedal his own bike and needs a "wheel kit"!
>>2069998That's why you pack a 2nd battery silly.
>>2069525They're called Electricals
>>2070022>5 electric holesElectricity just needs to flow in 1 direction. You only need 2 wires. Are ebike owners stupid?
>>2070170lmao
Thoughts on the KTM Freeride E?
>>2069987>go back to /toy/ you retarded niggersoh the irony
>>2070205You're literally too poor for a real bike.
>>2070257>real bike.Huh?
>>2070260That is not a real bicycle it is not even a Dutch Bike.
>>2070205only not a nigger faggot thirdie bike because it is clearly a childs toy for parents who arent nons
>>2070263Try turning your monitor on.
>>2070269wtf its beautiful
>>2069046Dale probably owns a fat tire ebike desu
>>2069926above a certain width dependent on you're ass, it becomes uncomfortable to pedal when you need to. and at a certain point it just looks stupid and you may as well put a motorcycle saddle on it
>>2070309I'm sorry you have a tiny, tight, small, twink ass.
>>2070318why would you be sorry for that?
I am here waiting for my ebike to arrive from china anyone else has it in here?
>>2070333>>2070205Sirs, ebikes are 1hp. Mtbers and euros are melting about about 1.5hp dji emtb marketing that will ruin the regulatory environment.
>>2070337This ebike has 80hpAre you retarded?
>>2070337I am euro aswell and i don't really give a shit about any regulations, police doesn't give a shit if you are not being annoying
>>2070205I thought about buying an older one they seem pretty simple and robust for an electric vehicle the range is laughable tho
>>2070339>biggest thing of the advertising copy is LE IRON MAN PROPRIETARY APP PHONE PAIRINGit's probably garbage otherwise. Even Emmo and Evoque just go "It goes 80 and has carplay nigga what more do you want"
>>2070339Ebike? That is an offroad electric scooter with DOT tires, or an Emoto.
>>2069831This is an ebike (even though it's an etrike).>>2069369>>2070205>>2070333>>2070339These are scooters.>>2070260This is a real bike. Happy to help explain this to you new friends :^)
>>2070357>stark varg>it's probably garbage otherwise>Even Emmo and EvoqueBe honest, how many times a day do people call you retarded?
The most important feature to a Motorcycle is how easily I can pair my phone to it.
Speed restrictions bother me, phone apps for my bike bother me. I know I can bypass this by DIYing my bike but it seems like cope. We ebikers are the most oppressed minority in the history of the world. It's literally 1984
>>2069519Not even an ebikefag but thats an ugly old ass bike. Looks like something an 80 year old man would have ridden in his 20s.
>>2070155need a third pin for safety ground and two more for the battery controller to talk to the bike controller
>>2068968Do ebikers like escooterists or normal cyclists more? I'm trying to understand all the weird alliances that exist, for example carbrains and pedestrifucks seem to suddenly like each other as soon as bike or micromobility vehicles enter the discussion
>>2070542Thinking like this is why you're here
>>2070542Alone you bend.Together you stand.Faggots.
I live in a well-industrialised country, yet the only people I see riding e-bikes are 40-year-old women and food deliverymen. Just today during a short walk I saw no less than five separate 60+year-olds cranking uphill on old 3-speeds. Any oldfags wanna chime in on whether e-bikes actually benefit the elderly?
>>2070575In countries where motorists look out for people on 2 wheels they are useful for the elderly. In the US, the "muh elderly" argument is just an excuse by fat zoomers who want to keep burning down apartment buildings and ramming into old people on shared paths. They don't actually care about or like the elderly, in fact they want the elderly dead so they can steal their homes
>>2069831I went to a place that rents ebike and they had an etrike for rent. Holy smokes it's so comfy and easy to ride. I would love to own one but it just takes up so much space. Also it seems like it would be a pain to lock up.
just get a used one for $1800 E-MTB front-suspended, bosch motor gen 4 85nm and Deore group, thank me later
>>2070663Where are all these used electric mountain bikes hiding?
>>2070680Maybe if you weren't a massively retarded nigger you would be able to find one. It's surely not that markets are different in different areas, even neighborhood to neighborhood, you are simply a piece of human filth with politics different to mine and that's why you can't find a particular durable good to buy second-hand at a cheap price.
>>2070680>>2070683You can always tell when there's someone new on a slow board like /n/ because all of a sudden there's a noticeable pattern of inordinately belligerent posts, as is the norm on the faster boards.They usually settle down or leave eventually but wew, someone pissed in anon's corn flakes this morning. And yesterday morning and the day before judging by the posts I've seen in the last few days.
>>2070542normal cyclists by a mile. e(kick)scooters are just trash. their owners tend to just be normal dudes trying to get around a little faster than the bus and i have nothing against them but rideshare scooters are straight up litter and if you're going to pay like 1800 bucks for a kick scooter with a motor and battery on it why did you not just get a bike that can actually survive a curb and is comfy to sit onand dont even get me started on those absolute PSYCHOS who get a scooter then get a bolt-on seat for it. literally just get an actual scooter/e-bike. even just looking at basic amazon chink slophttps://www.amazon.ca/ZSNAKE-Electric-Tubeless-Off-Road-Detachable/dp/B0CC5F2C1B>1800$ and they couldnt even be arsed to bolt on the seat for the promo shot, solid wheels, will burst into treats if you aren't a child riding it and hit a twighttps://www.amazon.ca/iScooter-650W-Scooter-Electric-Charger-Standard/dp/B0DP4LJGCB>900$ and mad niggerish but at least looks kinda comfy and will only burst into treats after your second potholeliterally what is the use case for those crappy e-scooters except for being "micromobility" rideshare street cruft?
>>2070438>I know I can bypass this by DIYing my bike but it seems like copeit's not, it's both cheaper and more fun and results in a more unique-looking vehicle (and usually a better one, purpose-built ebikes usually use gutter trash for the actual bike parts on frames recycled from literal children's "baja" minibikes)>>2070333i keep seeing these on marketplace sitting for months at a time so they're probably shit if so many people are buying them and then immediately trying to flip it and still somehow not getting buyers
>>2070680In the back room of shops in That London.That's where stolen electric mountain bikes live ,silly.
>>2070438Speed restrictions exist because these are literally made for children. If you want to go faster you'd have to get a license for a real Electric Motorcycle instead of this e-slop. I hope you get door'd going 40 mph in a bike lane and snap your jaw off.
>>2070819I'm pretty sure they exist more for market penetration among the larger manufacturers, and the smaller ones only comply because of heat management. I have a shitty kit that explicitly doesn't care and has no limiter, and it doesn't let me break 30 because it simply cannot supply that much power. No different from old two-strokes being "for kids" because they physically can't break 40.
>>2070771Scooters are more fun and way more bang for buck in performance. Find me an ebike for $900 than can do 65km/h
>>2070826>way more bang for buck in performance. granted the power:weight is better on a kick scooter but the quality of the ride is way worse and because of the nonexistent or actively bad suspension you cannot hit that speed safely. raw power isnt everything and if it were you'd get a proper motorcycle that can hit it and sustain it properly without exploding after running over a single marmotte >more funactually fair and the main reason i only consider rideshare ones to be litter but other e-kick-scooter riders to be legit but misguided at worst
>>2070823It's legal requirements. Having them go any faster would require them to be classified as Electric Motorcycles instead of E-bikes. Ones that are modified to go faster aren't strictly legal but it's not like cops have the time to pull over Timmy's on their Chinese e-bikes that have faulty governors. Things like heat management are only an issue because manufacturers never designed these bikes to go faster than 25mph, because they aren't electric motorcycles, because these are literally made for children. I don't see a single grown adult in my town riding an e-bike unless it's one of those rental ones
>>2070835i get that you're trying to troll but you are exposing a fundamental lack of understanding of how ebikes or even most electronics worki have one of those chink kits and it has no governor. it just gets fuckoff hot and way less efficient after extended riding and can only supply about 13 amps at a given voltage because that is simply how it is designed and what the electronics inside are capable of, same as how your dollar store phone charger only supplies 0.99A but your laptop usbc brick can do like 20A. on a downhill it appreciably adds power and does not cut out based on speed, on uphills it struggles because if it gave any more it would burst into flame (which is not good for your amazon listing when people complain about it)and chinks will gladly sell you more robust ones and just say "for offroad use only :)" but understandably they cost a little more. but it's not like you need a license to buy this stuff. if you want a controller suitable for a motorcycle you can just buy one but they're like 500 bucks and dont even come with a wiring harness. same for the batteries, a tiny 1kg 36v battery pack is a pittance but if you want a pack made to drive a forklift you better be prepared to pay forklift prices. and if you can do that just get the full motorcycle at that point instead of enduring retards like you and your ebike derangement syndrome
>>2069909It's not licenses that are the problem. It's how fucked the car market has become post-COVID.
>>2070819Yes, I will DIY my bike to avoid speed limitsYes, I will sell homemade electric motorcycles with pedals to kidsYes, I will slow down traffic and generally be a nuisance on the streets because fuck cagersNo, I won't give a shit if a little brat smears on the pavement like jellyNo, I won't get a licenseNo, I won't cuck out to regulationsNo, I won't stop selling drugs to high schoolers in exchange for sex This is the e bike chads creed
>>2071019love this gif and artist. i wish i looked exactly like this. thank u
>>2069369They are all motorcycles. There's just a lot of overlap. Put pedals and a chain on an e-bike and a 12 year old can hop on the highway with all the trucks and no license. In some countries, they just take tha chain and pedals off (lax enforcement).Japan is the only place that got it right. You must pedal or the e-bike stops. Or it's a motorcycle.
>>2071051yeah but in japan it doesnt take 200 years to get a license. you do a couple tests on a loaner bike and there you go. where i live you have to already own a motorcycle and bring it to your test (how, if you don't already have a license?) which by all accounts is designed to be failed anyway.the same is true of cars. unless you Know A Guy, it is literally impossible to get a car license because you have to bring your own car to do the test, but you can't acquire let alone operate a car to get it there unless you have the license. it's a catch 22 specifically designed to >FILTER young people and immigants (including simply from neighboring provinces of the same cuntry, because they decided to not have any more than the bare minimum reciprocity agreement so you HAVE to re-challenge the road test after 30 days even if you have a license from the next province over)
>>2069987wtf that's rad as hell
My bike :)I have two batteries and I keep the spare in the tube bag for longer trips
ebikers are vaccinated
>>2071323you're on this website so you're already autistic; i don't see the harm
>>2071056Sounds like the myth of sissyfuss I'm going through now. I want a car, after a long time of no car. 'Merica for the record. So I look up on how this works and it turns out, if you don't already have insurance, getting insurance requires you to shop at the places that cater to the DUI crowd. And that's just normal, post-purchase insurance. On top of that, to test drive a potential buy, it is suggested that you have your own liability, since the dealer insurance only covers damage to the vehicle being test driven. How do you get liability insurance for driving a car that isn't yours and isn't a rental? Well, you get "non owner car insurance". And how do you do that? Easy, just apply with your personal details including the car you drive every day, and its VIN#. Oh, you don't drive a car? No problem, just get one first!
MobilityScooterfags are NOT dodging the allegations that they're just too retarded to get a proper electric motorcycle license
>>2071392I've unironically thought about getting a motorcycle but I like using the bike lanes more than being stuck in traffic
>>2071299Looks pretty basic bitch anon. Get some streamers for those handlebars and some spoke reflectors.
>>2071392i 100% ride my ebike specifically because i refuse to get jewed by the local constabulary and gendarmerie to get a license and registration and insurance etc etc. ebikes let me ignore the law entirely and that's beautiful
>>2071418Based ruler breaker. I got my ebike registered at town hall as my green "business" vehicle so all the work and upgrades were tax write offs on it now. Cagers stay mad.
>>2071056>>2071390>"Why are Millennials killing the automotive industry!?" the boomer asks, sobbing over his iPad displaying the front page of MacLeans, mere minutes after voting "Yes" on a proposition to add a seventh layer of provisional licensing that prevents any new driver from driving during the day, night, with passengers, without a chaperone, any vehicle heavier than 20kg, any vehicle with not exactly four wheels, zero demerit points available, requirement to acquire and display a "NEW DRIVER" sign that also displays the driver's full name, address, and contact information, and imposes a mandatory 6000$/yr surcharge to their insurance payments, payable directly to Social Security
>>2071421Actually I left out a fun detail which is that the extortionate "driver who didn't have insurance" rate is promised to go down if I agree to install a tracking device in my vehicle that has like, an accelerometer and shit, so they can figure out if I drive like shit, and I guess also develop an AI model to install in future automotive factory firmware to send directly to the insurance companies so they can tamper with rates in real time based on how much your car lurches around and exceeds speed limits, I assumeBasically, we are all criminals, but we can get good boy points by accepting even more surveillance (I have nothing to hide so what is there to be afraid of!?!?)Needless to say I will not be doing that, I'll just pay the extra like a retard. I may be a retard but I have my pride and nothing can take that away unless you're a cute girl and you offer to peg me in which case disregard what I just said
>>2071428i'm a big fat mutt but will peg you with a dragon dildo
