Shit I'd bike pack on my long travel 29er enduro. There's just no areas to bike pack near me. Isn't hard to store a backpacking sleeping bag, 1-person tent, 2-3 gallons of water, and some MREs

>>2070303
What's there to solve? What the fuck is this thread?

>>2070321
>he doesn't get it

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>>2070321
The Kona Unity is a specialized off-road touring bike featuring an oversized front triangle designed to maximize frame bag storage while keeping weight centered. Its unique front rack is mounted directly to the frame rather than the fork, allowing the steering to remain light and predictable even when carrying heavy loads. The bike uses a "mullet" wheel setup to provide extra clearance for seat bags and dropper posts without significantly sacrificing its ability to roll over obstacles. For long-term reliability, it utilizes a high-durability 11-speed Shimano Linkglide drivetrain and powerful four-piston brakes with large rotors. These unconventional design choices, including a custom fork offset for stability, make it a purpose-built machine for serious backcountry bikepacking.

>>2070332
Das bretty kewl
>>2070317
That just sounds unpleasant even with locked out squish.

>>2070332
What's with larpers strapping 6 months worth of newspapers onto their frames using $900 worth of brand name rubber and laser-cut Poly Esther Fabrique? Panniers were invented for a reason.

>>2070343
>What is a promotional picture?

>>2070348
I see the same shit every summer weekend on one of the more popular bike paths around here. Professional unracers with a mortgage payment's worth of Camp-n-Go-Slow™ totally casual just threw this together out of random parts I had lying around (that I purchased on tiktok) chillaxed totally not strategically mismatched accessories. It's a look, and people try very hard to look like they're not trying hard to pull it off

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i just rent a bike when i get there and stay in a hotel

>>2070350
Do you actually talk to people or is this just your head canon?

>>2070355
I realize this is a rhetorical question and doesn't deserve a response, but why would talking to them change matters? I have eyes.

>>2070356
So in your head mismatched = trying too hard, but matching would also be trying too hard. It's almost like you’re whining jist for the sake of it. Are you mad about bags, colors, or the fact you can’t tell a staged photo from a real one?

>>2070332
>flash from belts twangs in the front wheel
100% this isn't a promotional image, someone actually took this photo for insta and thought they're nice

>>2070375
It's quite literally the promotional images directly from Kona you fucking retard lmao

>>2070376
kona should either fire that man or promote that man, depending on their actual target audience

actually do both. promote him to head of marketing for realizing that their lowest fruit target market are "bikepackers" who actually do just stuff bent coathangers into their panniers to make them look full but carry Fucking Nothing, then fire him for his hubris assuming that no cyclists actually might want to carry anything at all, let alone in a reasonable manner

>>2070372
I'm sorry if you felt attacked but there was nothing contradictory about what I said. If you feel like a fraud now, good. Because I think, most likely, you are one.

>>2070383
Didn't feel attacked lol. Why is this always what I get when I call out retards for being retarded "sorry I offended you bro". The only thing I take offense at is you parading around your stupidity and ignorance like it's wisdom and insight. I don't even bike pack, and if I did I would intentionally match all my shit because I like that. Fuck man you're so incredibly lame and then you project that lameness onto other people. You're so fucking simple. And assuming it's you who couldn't tell an obvious promo shot from an obvious promo shot, I don't even know why I am bothering talking to you. You've proven yourself to be a retard incapable of analytical reasoning, so your conclusions mean fuck all.

>>2070332
>le ebin outdoorsman offroad cargo bike

>no suspension
>uncomfortable stock seat
>finnicky high end race drivetrain
>non field repairable hydraulic brakes
>doesnt even come with rear pannier
100% larp bike that will be mostly bought by suburbanoids who will never even put frame bags on it let alone use their bike to carry stuff

>>2070396
>Cues
>finnicky high end race drivetrain
Man shut the fuck up

Bike packing is is pretty much a containment board for tourists, love it.

>>2070332
>featuring an oversized front triangle
Horizontal top tube would have given more room but would not have been as cheap to make.

>>2070396
Suspension isn't 'field repairable'

>>2070426
The irony of you referring to a thread as a board and then calling others tourists

>>2070396
Hey, taking pics of yourself carrying around crumpled up newspapers in expensive "improvised" (not actually improvised at all) while wearing $800 worth of designer cycling clothes meant to make you look like you just found them in a dumpster and then uploading them to instagram is a legitimate hobby

>>2070455
i think he was referring to the "hobby" in general, not this thread, and quite literally meant toursits as in people who visit other places for fun to just look at stuff rather than for work or commerce

>>2070430
if the spring fails just wire wrap and clamp that shit, if the piston fails, your legs are gone anyway. on the front you can overcome wack behavior with even more wack settings, or just lock that shit and call it a day until until the bondo cures

>>2070350
rent free, every time.

>>2070332
it solved rear rack storage?

>>2070467
That isn't a 'repair' it's still broken

>>2070472
This. The only true repair is just buying a fucking new one. You'd understand that if you weren't a fucking poorfag.

>>2070470
Rear rack storage isn't Aero.

>>2070467
>...Anonymous
>04/12/26(Sun)12:56:54 No.2070467
>>>2070455 (You) #
>i think he was referring to the "hobby" in general, not this thread, and quite literally meant toursits as in people who visit other places for fun to just look at stuff rather than for work or commerce
That logical stretch is so long I'll need a triathlon bike for it

>>2070461
Stop posting retard

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>>2070396
bot post
explain to me how you will field repair your mechanical disc brake

>>2070489
Nah

>>2070491
When I had mech dicks they required 100x more fiddling and fussing to ensure I was able to stop most of the time. Hydros literally Just Work. You might notice how the mech cope posters almost completely went extinct after hydros became fully affordable. The only ones left are just retards clinging to their old crap that barely works

>>2070488
That is exactly what I meant. All the people who switched from backpacking to bikepacking are restricted to the easy trails. Used to be at least a two day hike to get past the tourists and into solitude. Since bikepacking took off I can generally get beyond the tourists in half a day, pick a trail that you can't do on a bike and once I am past the people who are just out for a day hike I pretty much get solitude.

>>2070493
Shut the fuck up I'm not reading your cope post you brain dead fucktard

>>2070491
>Cable snaps
>Replace cable
>Adjust pads with screw driver
Am I missing something

do people really not bother to maintain their bikes to the point that cables just fucking snap out of thin air?

>>2070482
It is the most aero option when you are biking in a strong cross wind.

>>2070497
Much more relevant for long bike tours than it is for a long weekend bike packing trip. But apparently yes people do ignore their bikes that much.

>>2070501
I mean even when I was a kid and bashing my bike around almost daily with no maintenance, the worst that happened was a derailleur getting out of adjustment, not brake failure

>>2070527
i honestly don't get it. The worst I did to my bike was having the chain snap on me while shifting down during an uphill climb and it was a very old chain.

>>2070491
>cable wear
re-twist it, heat shrink with a lighter, maybe tie The Knot if it has completely snapped
>disc bad
bang it with a mallet until flat, bondo fill any cracks
>caliper/drum
replace it, you can get a three-pack of paired shoes for 5.99, everything else is still either tape, bondo, wire, or mallet it back into shapte

>>2070497
only had it happen to me once, apparently some shimano brifters have a tendency to wear down cables where they go around a corner inside the mechanism, very annoying.

>>2070547
Yeah shift cables sure, they put up with a lot more shit. Brake cables? You should be able to see that coming from a mile away. Not literally of course. Literally speaking, hundreds of miles away.

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>>2070350
> blasts past you in sandals while smoking a joint

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>>2070491
>field repair
> disc brake
I don't accept your frame. consumer slut

>>2070553
>old man brakes
Ew

>>2070551
I wonder if he's actually as chill as he comes off or if he's actually intolerable.

>>2070561
Actual "chill" people don't have such a carefully curated "chillaxed candids" insta image that you think they would be. In fact, they generally come off in pictures as having no social skills, because they are more interested in the people than the camera lens

>>2070562
>>2070561
He is chill as f uck. We used to be in the same polycule. Dude was totally chill, always down to smoke a bowl. Enjoyed all the threesomes with my primary. Honestly he really brings it. In the bedroom and in the kitchen when he's whipping up those sick vegan tacos. Absolutely chill bro. Totally supportive of me when my cat was going through gender transition stuff. Honestly like I got feelings for him. Big feelings. I wish you was still down for the poly but some people can't hang. Anyways resist! Y'all know this is native land?

>>2070570
This is the gayest thing I've ever read

>>2070553
everyone clowns on mech disks for being fiddly, but rimjobs are two orders of magnitude worse

>>2070561
probably both. so chill that every time you try to put any effort into anything ever he brings you down with his calicuck silver spoon ways

>>2070588
having used both ON THE SAME BICYCLE yes 100%. rim brakes have like 7 or 8 different fiddly adjustment points that fuck with all the others. mech discs you set the inside drum, adjust the length/tension of the outside drum, and can call it a fucking day. MAYBE shim up one side of the brake shoe cartridge MAYBE. not to mention they just last longer. i find myself replacing rim brake shoes every like month. you can go for whole seasons not fucking with disc brakes except for maybe blasting them with some kind of cleaner or adjusting the backside a little bit

>>2070588
the fuck are you talking about, rim brake adjustments take all of ten seconds and a multitool

>>2070588
>but rimjobs are two orders of magnitude worse
That's the most idiotic thing I've ever heard from you zoomers. Caliper and v brakes take a moment to set up and months or years before you need to touch them again. You are a fucking clown

>>2070591
>rim brakes have like 7 or 8 different fiddly adjustment points that fuck with all the others.
Name the adjustments

and yet nobody took one to silk road
curious

>>2070591
>you set the inside drum, adjust the length/tension of the outside drum, and can call it a fucking day
better
you do the hydraulic special on them- unbolt the brake, turn the back pad in a couple clicks, pull on the brake lever (or even better, pull on the exposed bit of cable if you have it), screw the brake back in, turn the back pad out a couple clicks, and adjust the barrell until the front pad doesn't rub
voila, perfect braking in 30 seconds, in some ways easier than hydros, like not having to push the pads apart if they are too tight
>>2070592
all of ten seconds to somehow both brake like shit and rub at the same time
it's still only a few minutes, but it's a few minutes of finagling six different control vectors, all of which directly influence the rest, instead of being absolute and all being set up against the same reference plane of the brake disc
and if you need to realign the pads, shit'll brake like shit for a long while because they have to bed in all over again
>>2070593
you can set rimjobs to brake well, but it'll take way, WAY longer than setting up disc brakes
and they go out of alignment over time because the rim they are braking on is flat but pads move in an arc, while disc pads move parallel and wear evenly
and disc pads wear much slower than rim pads too

>>2070597
>all of ten seconds to somehow both brake like shit and rub at the same time
Sounds like a skill issue. After setting up the cable and adjusting the pads, which should be done one once during instal as you should be using cartridge pads, the only thing you could be adjusting is the spring tension. You sound like a wrenchlet.

>>2070593
>Name the adjustments
left shoe vertical alignment
right shoe vertical alignment
left shoe horizontal shimming/camber(we'll not count this as both alignment and angle nor even separate camber and caster as one could because it's the same stack of washers and also i am counting everything else twice for left/right like an asshole)
right shoe horizontal shimming/camber
cable length (just loading the cable not all fucked up)
cable virtual length adjustment (the lil thrumb skrew on the hand lever)
left caliper return spring preload
right caliper return spring preload
between-caliper cable length (if you have the little hook guy instead of one continuous cable)
fuck it also brake shoe pitch if you're a gimp who doesn't know how to tighten stuff without the thing you're tightening moving

vs

cable length (just loading the cable not all fucked up)
cable virtual length adjustment (the lil thrumb skrew)
cable virtual length adjustment 2 featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series (the lil thrumb skrew except on the brake assembly itself instead of the hand lever)
inward drum protrusioning (admittedly a vile and demonic act imposed upon you by satanists if you have anything but the smallest hub ever made and the adjustment drum is plastic on 99% of models and guaranteed to strip instantly, but at least you can get some bigass pliers and grab onto the outside of it usually)

rim brakes are perfectly cromulent for actually stopping but they're a pain in the ass requiring near constant maintenance, the correct type of rim to even work (now that asshole manufacturers don't put the nice grooves in anymore because muh smooth n silky enameled look, not even muh aero, apiotic niggers interbreedable with cagies who have no understanding of engineering not even assembly) and the shoes being rubber instead of ceramic compounds means they wear really fucking fast and are easier to contaminate (and contamination causes actual damage instead of just a reduction in friction)

>>2070598
For Real, Family, I am Shaking My Head in agreement. >>2070597 (You) does not even appear to know the TRUE trick, which is to load the cartridge with a couple business cards on each side, then turn the inside drum until the shit is clamped. the rip the cards out and you have an easy mm or so of clearance

holding the brake to adjust them is strictly a rim brake thing, another reason they are way worse. you need three hands to adjust them properly

rim brakes are only not totally obsolete because hub manufacturers refuse to make a bigger flange with some holes innit to put a disc brake on there (and frame manufacturers love to put 9000 bottle bosses for proprietary cargo systems but not drill two more so you can mount some fucking brakes)

>>2070599
I'm impressed you answered but that's insane. V brakes adjustment is this:

Screw them on.
Put a dime under each pad, forward side
Squeeze that shit together and tighten

That's literally it outside of cabling. And then you can ignore it for 1,000 miles.

Costs $15 total and mechanically dead simple. Nothing better

>>2070598
if you wanna leave with five mil of slop on each side and have to pull the lever all the way to the handlebar to slow down and embed it into the grip to actually brake- sure, you can tardwrangle it and it'll function
if you want shit that isn't fucking DISGUSTING to ride, with minimal gaps and perfect spring tension, you will suffer for several minutes running around the thing and it'll still never be right
and then you gotta set the fenders and rack back up because setting rimjobs up with them in place is a fool's errand
and then spring tension keeps going out of whack and makes either (or both) of the pads rub because one pivot corrodes and other pivot gets dirty and the two now differ in two separate friction characteristics that will never match
and then you try to brake in the rain and find out that your braking privelege has been revoked
and then you'll have a rim blowout from rubbing it out on it for years, and have to replace it
and then you taco the new rim because bike shop fag didn't assemble the wheel right and the rubbing now alternates and makes the bike utterly unridable
there are two reasons to have rimjobs in the year of today- either you have them already and don't have the budget or desire to replace them (fair), or you're getting a folding bike with tight size constraints incompatible with disc brakes
>>2070600
>holding the brake to adjust them is strictly a rim brake thing
that is literally how you set up and "adjust" hydraulics. one hand holds, other hand tightens the attachment bolts, no need for a third hand.
>>2070601
nice, now left side rubs when you don't pull on the brake, but when you pull on the brake the right side moves and the left refuses to until the right visibly bends the rim into it
rule of engineering thumb, if a mechanical system has fifty different adjustments, it's designed around loose tolerances and cheap manufacturing, while a system with one or two is designed to be mechanically rigid and repeatable

>>2070605
You're actually a fucking retard

>>2070605
>nice, now left side rubs when you don't pull on the brake,
the guy you're responding to is wrong (it's the 10 point worst case with an extra length of cable) but you are fucking retarded holy shit. v brakes are the way they are specifically to even out tension between the calipers

never worked with hydraulics but i imagine theyre basically like mechanical disc brakes except you now have the risk of getting gaymer-green-dyed baby oil all over your hands if you fuck it up and having to shell out 129.99 for per 15ml bottle of it to recharge the system

>>2070606
nah, you just have extremely low standards for braking
even perfectly set up brand new rimjobs on perfectly straight wheels are still rather mediocre in terms of braking performance, with a lot of slop before engagement even if they baisically glide along the rim surface, poor brake-to-squeeze ratio because levers can't be fooled, and mediocre modulation
step outside of those perfect conditions and you get something that technically brakes, just like fixies technically brake
disc brakes just work, and you have to look really hard to find ones that actually do so worse than the best of the best rimjobs
like, not even depths of aliexpress, depths of old chinese direct to consumer bsos from 15 years ago

>>2070607
hydraulics have the benefit of pulling both pads in when braking instead of just one, and the extra leverage and modulation from the magical science of hydraulics
just one pad is good enough, unlike rims discs are flat enough that you can set the pad up to almost touch and still not rub, but both is better
there is very little possibility of fucking up in the way you describe, and if you do, you just go to mum's cosmetics cabinet and nick the bottle of vaseline oil (with no additives) to top it up and then bubble it out, with extra tools depending on the brake construction
mineral oil is mineral oil, all same shit, all works, shammy just adds colouring to sell it to gullible people
unless you've got sram brakes, they stubbornly pretend they have kewl motorcycle brakes that work on dot brake fluid, fuck them, this shit eats paint

>>2070608
No you're actually fucking retarded and don't know shit. My standard for brakes is I should be able to throw myself over the handlebars and lock up the rear wheel with 1 finger.

>>2070612
of course that's your standard, because you don't have the modulation to not throw yourself over the bars

>>2070613
God, you’re unbelievably dense. If I want to do it, I can, and I can modulate my brakes just fine. You lost any credibility on the technical side the moment you demonstrated you have no idea how to properly adjust spring tension on V-brakes. I'm done replying to your dumb ass. You know fuck all about rim brakes

>>2070615
i don't need to know shit about disc brakes to set them up
they just work, and work better than rim brakes, in every single way, with no downside
that is the point of this conversation
the downside used to be that you had to have precision in your frame and fork design instead of compensating for it all with rimjobs' vast array of adjustments, but modern manufacturing is more than capable of welding the dropouts on straight even on the cheapest of walmart bsos

>>2070616
Someone who's never worked on disc brakes will have the same trouble as you who's never ACTUALLY worked on rim brakes to set them up. You're disingenuous. Get fucked. The vast consensus is rim brake are easier to set up. The fact you suck at it doesn't change the fact that they are easier.

>>2070618
nta but what vast consensus? The consensus of you? Don't be ridiculous. Literally all you have to do with dick brakes is you gently squeeze the calipers and tighten the bolts, boom, done. Never have to think about it again for another 5000 miles. Meanwhile with rim jobs, once a week X axis? Y axis? Z axis? Where's my pedro's fourth hand tool? Oh god I forgot my crimper? Why is the brake pad tearing into my sidewall, ah it doesn't matter anyway I can just ignore it until my tire explodes

>>2070618
nah, that's consensus of old hats who have worked on bicycles for 40 years and don't like them newfangled gizmos
i, on the other hand, am a motorcycle mechanic descending into the world of bicycles
rim brakes are like carburettors- they had their place when manufacturing was not as advanced, they can work decently if you finger them for a while, if you have an old bike or want to feel the old school cool then they are a decent option, but we got fuel injection that is strictly superior in just about every way, reliability included, and if you can have a bike with fuel injection- you should, because it just works
even cheap 125 scooters are fuel injected nowadays because it just works
same as cheap walmart bikes with bottom tier cable disc brakes, they just work
no reason to cling onto rim brakes

>>2070624
I think we've completely lost sight of what the argument is about. I'll just end my participation with I don't think they're particularly hard to service and you should use the brakes that you want to use and that are appropriate for your use case. Like you said if you want old school fun use rim brakes, if you want superior performance use discs. I don't think rim brakes and even close to as bad as mister rimjob claims.

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>>2070618
disc brakes are much easier to set up they are self centering (just loosen the bolts) and self adjusting