>ride bike on road>those stupid selfish cyclists disrupting traffic>ride bike on sidewalk>those stupid selfish cyclists trying to run over pedestrians>advocate for bike lanes so everyone gets their way>those stupid selfish cyclists wasting our tax dollars making everything about themselvesThere are jackass cyclists like there are jackass motorists and jackass pedestrians. Yet we get the hate because we’re trying to be both economically and environmentally efficient while getting to places as soon as possible?>t. a cyclist who uses the sidewalk because there are no bike lanes, people hardly use sidewalks, and i don’t wanna risk car accidents
Generally we're not, but a small, vocal minority of extremely angry people are obsessed with us to the point of mental illness. Some people have the energy to push back, some make a hobby of it, but most people just can't be bothered, so the angry karens are always going to be there. You might say we're like the transgenders of the road. Not sure who our JK Rowling is. Maybe that guy from Top Gear?
>>2072600oh, also the vegan-like holier-than-though attitude on top of all that.
idk but I unapologetically ride like a fucking mega cunt and if someone has a problem with it, oh what a surprise they dont wanna get out of their car and talk about it they wanna go home and post about it on social media >if i encountered u i would run u over or shoot uOkay. hasn’t happened yet i dont think you would do shit
>>2072600>even more special treatment than they already receiveThe road system is extremely subsidized and built in favor of cars. Even in the Netherlands. Whenever a city tries to shift this balance slightly from extreme subsidization to merely massive subsidization, cager go fucking apeshit.
>>2072603>I unapologetically ride like a fucking mega cuntYou're the reason we can't have nice things
>>2072623actually not true but alright you can be a pick me cyclist if you want
>>2072623>>2072624also guarantee you don’t consider things like safe road positioning around blind corners to prevent being slammed into from behind u probably just ride in the gutter like a beta and wonder why you get close passed, people cant see you until its too late>teehee im not like the other cyclistsUr worse get the fuck out of the inside of the blind corners, i bet you stop at roundabouts and clog that shit up 5x longer than you should while you try to get back on your bike and you think you are being “one of the good ones” Confident borderline aggressive riding is safe riding i do not give a fuck if some alcoholic honks his horn at me fuck him and fuck you stay in the bike lane you fucking femboy
>>2072626This, also the more to the right of the curb you ride the more likely people are to pass you dangerously. Yeah sorry bro but I'm gonna leave at least 4 ft between my squishy body and a potentially opening car door, guess you're just gonna have to change lanes to overtake me
>>2072626>I ride like a mega cunt>Actually I ride very safeLmao triggered much. What you described isn't riding like a cunt it's riding normally. Riding like a cunt is burning every red every stop and hopping onto busy sidewalks. Pull the seatpost out of your ass lmao you cry baby hahahahahaha
>>2072628He's sort of right though, women really do not like the "male" style of riding that's why they're always getting killed by box trucks when men get in front aggressively instead of timidly hanging out in the kill zone. But this is seen as "unfair" or "toxic masculinity" so there will always be some stigma attached to proper defensive riding. Same reason people who don't think of bike lanes as a panacea are always getting called toxic elite sports cyclists.
>>2072629Buddy I'm not arguing with him if he's right. I said that's just normal cycling. You say you ride like a mega cunt I assume you ride like a new york bike courrier with a deathwish.
>>2072623(passive) aggressive drivers will harass you no matter what kind of vehicle you're using. Big difference here is that are you are far more likely to come into contact with such people when you're travelling at 25 kph
>>2072630There are many definitions of "normal cycling". I ride according to my ideas of safety, not about what will offend people or make me "one of the good ones". My ideas about what's safe and reasonable are based on my local road conditions. Other norms prevail in areas with other road conditions.Turn-related practices are a good example of this. Before we even get into what bicycles should do, cars and trucks are expected to do different things depending on the country. And then of course, there's us. We are usually an afterthought at best. The bicycle is sometimes expected to take the outer lane, sometimes the inner lane, sometimes take the crosswalk and only pay attention to pedestrian walk/don't walk signs. Sometimes there are no rules or expectations on anyone's mind because bicycles are for children and children should not be playing in traffic.So if following your local customs and regulations puts you at higher risk, the rational choice is to ride like a "mega cunt" and disregard optics, because being safe is better than looking like a nice guy. On the other hand, if your local conditions make it so that you're safest doing "nice guy" riding, then there is no need to act like a "mega cunt".
>>2072632Oops wrong pic sorry. That one was meant for my earlier post.
>>2072628>>2072630i mean i do kinda ride like a cunt still, this is normal riding true but it is considered bad by car people, although i still DO ride like a cunt by that I just mean blowing reds and hoping for the best and disregarding speed limits, nice downhill and im pinning it even if its a 20kmh only residential, urban “shared path” type of shit yeah i fuckin fly past peds unless theres a dog or small child im definitely a cunt but its funny that despite every awful thing i do its still safer than riding like a bitch. if im going to be viewed as evil anyway for not wanted to ride in the gutter i might as well do this shit no?i also angle my 1000lumen light slightly upwards i am not sorry
>>2072634>i also angle my 1000lumen light slightly upwards i am not sorryLiterally no good reason to do this except be a dumb shitbag.
>>2072634Lumenchads reporting in. My light is to prevent doorings and right hooks. It needs to be and is visible in the rear view mirror. It cannot be ignored. If you find yourself blinded it's because you're trying to salmon up a one-way street like an asshole, so any issue with my light is your problem not mine.
>>2072631>25>kph
maybe it's those stupid hats? I mean you look like an alien. An inferior other. Why do cycle fags insist on wearing those?
>>2072644You guys get mad at us if we don't wear a foam hat. Then you get mad at us if we do. So it's probably not the hats.
>>2072635>exceptSo you do admit that it is a good reason?
>>2072634unironically considering buying a ps3 for 5$ just to harvest the Blu-Ray Laser to shine directly at F-150 owners, Jeep owners, joggers with headlamps, dentists with upward-facing 99999 lumen LED lights, and that one tranny in town who actually owns an Electra™ Townie®
>>2072633>>2072632Umm literally just stop being in the fucking road? Roads are for cars, not your gay commie 15 minute city cope dilation.
If it's a one-lane road I will yield to car traffic behind me as much as possiblebut if I'm on a two-lane road I simply do not give a fuck. If you're a motorist who is triggered by how slow I'm going then just move over to the fast lane
>>2072607>The road system is extremely subsidized and built in favor of cars.yes, because cars actually offer extensive strategic and social benefits, unlike scrappy little toys for manchildren to virtue signal with.
>>2072676Basado.
>>2072650Made me laugh fuck you lmao. Dumb and dumber lookin ass.
>>2072585>act like fuckwits>dress like fuckwits>takes non motorised vehicles onto roadways which are vital for life and safety>get aggressive when criticised for poor road behaviour >refuse to use cycling infrastructure, regularly choosing to block roads when there is an adjacent cycle path>constantly break road rules>don't pay rego or CTP insurance but believe they're equally entitled to roads>chooses to put themselves in suicidal danger then takes it out on road users>wear next to no safety gear>constantly favoured by homosexual lawmakersThere is something mentally wrong with adults who ride bikes. If your city has dedicated cycle infrastructure and you can commute without taking your push bike onto a road with 4 tonne cars going 60-100km/h. Fine. But that's basically never the case so you're choosing to be a problem.If you want to help congestion get a motorbike. If you want the two wheel experience on roads get a motorbike. Otherwise get your fucking toy off the road.
If you get easily angry at someone riding a bicycle or going for a walk as you're driving down the road, then maybe you shouldn't be driving. You have a bigger problem.
>>2072681Bicycle and walk are not the same. Riding your bike on the road is not the same as a pedestrian on a footpath.
>>2072683Regardless, you present yourself as a hazard to society when you oonga-boonga behind the wheel like a spastic chimp all because you're too retarded to remember you can always go around and magically makes your day ruined. Hang up the driver's license before you end up killing someone over your retarded road raging anger issues.
>>2072680you forgot>scream murder when a driver so much as takes a breath in your direction, insist they are trying to kill you whenever they take actions to avoid a collision as a result of you breaking the rules or interfering with traffic
>>2072681if you get easily scared of being in the vincinity of road vehicles moving at speed then maybe you shouldn't be on the road, just saying.
Cyclist hate is so forced.
>>2072695It's similar to hating pizza with pineapples (knowing that no hawaiian will attack you over it) or making muh attack helicopter jokes (knowing that no tumblrinas from 2009 will come after you). Easy way for spinless NPCs to tilt at a windmill and feel tough.
>>2072676>extensive strategic and social benefits40,000 road deaths a year, an enormous amount of noise and pollution, as well as destroying the environment where people live both directly and indirectly? Wow sounds great!
>>2072697hawaiian pizza is actually canadian though. no hawaiian eats that shit
>>2072698yes, our industrial society has its costs as it allows neet vermin like you to mooch off of others' work while being fed, clothed and safe at your parents' house instead of being busy begging for food on the street, which is rather unfortunate.
>>2072695Cyclist grievances are so forced.
>>2072742Kind of wild seeing uncle ted's words being appropriated by NPC cageoids whose greatest aspiration is to lift their pickup so they can coal 50 year old men on cervelos
>>2072743Nice bogeyman. But the reason is that addressing cyclist grievances is a win for drivers, businesses, everyone. Sorry Ivan, but it's bipartisan.
>>2072585hating is a natural state of existence.
>>2072747>bipartisanSad when Kevin Teshaywn Dequandre Ramirez Jr. can't fathom more than two parties
>>2072745>NPC cageoidscyclist trannies talking about appropriation while appropriating memes to further their toothless buzzwords will never stop being funny to me
>>2072747>addressing cyclist grievances is a win for drivers, businesses, everyonedon't you complain about how banning cars and lynching drivers over looking at you wrong is not enough and you'll still break the traffic rules and behave like vermin out of spite in every thread?
I find it fuckin funny that.. ok some of you are just trolling but there are genuinely people on this board who fucking hate bikes. why are you here then… oh you like trains?? Thats real cute buddy
>>2072754It's the airplane people, those guys are giga chuds. Look up ATC hot mic recordings on youtube, these guys will say things that would make the most jaded /pol/tard blush
>>2072755Nah that makes sense all these pilot wannabes and shit, assmad they are not gonna be able to touch a plane.. unless they are a nepobaby and that usually comes with just about the same attitude
>>2072745So which is it? Are we all internet warriors who do nothing but sit quietly making joked about attack helicopters away from your presence or mean evil chuds rolling coal on that elusive 50 year old road cyclist?
>>2072755dont look at the maritime threads
I like how every single GCN video has a car permanently stuck behind him
>>2072796it's stuck behind the filming car
>>2072755wtf. i looked one up and he called me, personally, a nigger. he even said where i live. he aint wrong but who tf did i wrong so deeply who is an ATC??
cyclists don't kneelbike gets in the way
>>2072585>those stupid selfish cyclists disrupting trafficObey rules of the road and you'll be OK.Notice, I don't say "laws" because with sufficient political sympathies, cyclist organizations have succeeded in having some of the dumbest rights written into traffic laws.>advocate for bike lanes so everyone gets their wayThe biggest lobby against bike lanes is the John Forrester crowd. Pic related.
>>2072825>cyclists don't kneelNow, change this to automobiles and train crossings. And explain why the logic should be any different.
>>2072836because a car doesn't take several miles to come to a dead stop
>>2072825this is the gayest shit ever
>>2072585Everyone is an asshole (>>2072748), with zero objectivity.>>2072601I love the focus on how someone feels about themselves more than if they have a right to feel it. True girl brain.>>2072676>>2072677>strategic >social>"benefits"Destroying the world and being the biggest suckers who've ever lived.
>>2072585Some people are cunts. Road raging cyclist is more dangerous than some pre-diabetic angry guy in his car because with a car you still need to follow the rules but with a bicycle you can just think you are being so agile and kill someone (and yourself).
>>2072586>You might say we're like the transgenders of the road.That'd make cyclists the mentally ill ones tho.
>>2072644Do you mean helmets?
>>2073306>Destroying the worldAHHHH THE FUMES ARE LITERALLY KILLING THE PLANET HELP ME NIGGERMAN>china? what's that? they can strip mine, dump trash into oceans, depopulate fish and burn coal all they want, nothing to see here.
>>2073306>how someone feels about themselveshow someone acts around others actually>more than if they have a right to feel itbeing an uppity whiny bitch nagging at everyone surrounding you unfortunately isn't illegal but this doesn't make you any less of effeminate cunt regardless.
>>2072698This reads like someone who thinks that the entire logistics system could be replaced with trains and be just as cheap and fast
>>2072676>cars actually offer extensive strategic and social benefitsmade me check if the reply was made before or after the latest social and strategic garnishing via bomb on sandniggers
>>2073622>last-mile/ad-hoc heavy transport exists>therefore, we should not have any vehicles other than the Ford F-150 Denali Black <Crew Cab>factories used to have dedicated rail sidings btw, just detach a couple cars at the yard and have a rail truck bring it up from the big railyard/station
I get annoyed when cars blame me for fucking up. For example the amount of times they rolling stop then get mad when I go through, it's like bruh lmao
>>2073805>last-mile/ad-hoc heavy transportwhat exactly about trucks is last-mile or ad-hoc?coal/lumber shipments?
>>2073473bait used to be believable
>>2073805>factories used to have dedicated rail sidings btw1930s factories with 1930s capacity and logistic footprint? Holy shit trainfags are delusional, i woner why they're not suggesting oxcarts as an alternative just to seethe about cars some more.
>>2073815dont be disingenous, you know the usual cope from cagies is >BUT HOW DOES THE STUFF GET FROM THE TRAIN TO MY WALMART ?????? & THEN ALSO GET FROM WALMART TO MY HOUSE ?????????? TRAINS COULD NEVER WORK THEN
>>2072585cuz most Americunts are self loathing fat asses. Simple as.
>>2072697orange cats too. I blame the mutt krauts, they typically don't understand nuance. Self loathing creatures just trying to overcompensate IAMNOTANAZI
>>2073822Ben Franklin was right Germans deserve the bullet
>>2073484I don't think many people would want to live in the industrial districts in china. Why become more like em?
>>2073818>you know the usual cope from cagiesno i don't, but now i know the usual cope from cucklists
>>2073827>Why become more like em?i dunno, why don't you tell me next time you're complaining about how suburbs aren't dense enough?
>>2072697pineapple pizza hate is yet another example of americans doing things badly on purpose to "prove" they don't work. most american chains don't roast the pineapple first, or even drain it properly, making pizza that is a soupy mess. and pineapple for american markets is usually packed in sweetened juice or even syrup, so it's much sweeter than it should be (even though pineapple is itself already pretty sweet on its own). so the fruit still being wet and being way too sweet will, even if you like the taste, absolutely ruin the texture and turn the top of your pizza into soupgo anywhere outside the states and people will still meme on you about it but pineapple on pizza will be made properly and merely be a difference of taste rather than being objectively wrong. getting pineapple on pizza anywhere in the US is actually objectively wrong
>>2073805Look at the way rail sidings actually work. You have to push one train or several cars into the spur, which means the factory has to be built essentially with a long wall, and to move anything at all, the whole train has to be pulled back out, as opposed to a bunch of truck docks that can be accessed as needed.This is why when there's rail transportation, it's usually bulk transport of something, usually raw materials, and any factory that still uses rail is rail in, truck out.
>>2073818If you look at the way these distribution centers work, that is a good question. Working backwards, the stuff from Walmart comes in a large truck, which is packed with stuff the stores need, and it's not a particularly big shipment (maybe at most two trucks a day, and that's assuming peak hours). The distribution centers are from a warehouse, which bring in trucks from all over, from various other factories and warehouses, allowing coming and going quite easily, as opposed to sidings, which can only handle a few trains at a time.Pic is the Walmart distribution center in New Braunfels, which has been open since the 1980s and one of the first of its kind. The Kmart distribution center in Corsicana did have a rail siding, but it was rarely, if ever, used.
>>2073879well historically those rail sidings were for large volumes of raw materials, not collection/distribution of finished goods. hence why i said "factories" and not "wal mart distribution centers"all modes of transport have their place (otherwise they would have been priced out of the market) but that does not apply to cagie cope for >NEEEEEEEDING a 5 ton SUV to drive themselves between their home and their white collar do nothing job 8 miles away
>>2072585>Go outside>Hop on bicycle>Ride around neighborhoods>Mindful of traffic and signs>Enjoying the weather and fresh air>Somehow this infuriates people behind the wheel
>>2073884>otherwise they would have been priced out of the marketlike 90% of the rail transport you keep raving about?
>>2073904heavy rail transport still exists and makes up most of the use of current NA rail systems THOUGH
>>2073945that's the 10% i mentioned when you compare it to the totals of overland logistics, especially without inflating it with the bulk raw goods that comprise most of rail cargo.
theyre annoying
>>2073886Some fucking brown fuckboy in a elantra tried picking beef with me today in a group ride and I still dunno what pissed him off. Literally stopped at a red light and he opened his window and flipped me off then followed our group like super close for no reason. Eventually he stopped but that was so fucking weird. I like cycling but honestly with the drivers in our area, it's starting to really drive me mental. One day I'm gonna do something man and it's gonna fuck me up big time.
>>2074000The typical behavior patterns of cagie niggers.
>>2073477It also makes it great analogy
