Should a city the size of Toronto have more, less, or about the same amount of rapid transit?
>>2076185Ontario is unusual in that it has been fully developed wall to wall suburbs for more than a generation. The American north shore is all farmland except for maybe 10 counties, on the greatest corridor in world history.Imagine if Cleveland or Buffalo were surrounded by rings of mid century suburbs for over a hundred miles, because anything south of Columbus is hard living wilderness.
>>2076187About half of Southern Ontario is farmland including a big chunk of Canadian Shield land near the Kawarthas up to Algonquin Park.Not sure what you meant by this post. I think the majority of all of the highest grade farmland is also in Ontario.
>>2076190Why are you talking about anything north of toronto? Everything south of Toronto's latitude is 100% developed. Breezwood all the way from the Detroit/Naigara borders to Toronto. The southern glacial scar parallel to algonquin is allegheny state park, and there ain't nothing close to there.
>>2076205>Everything south of Toronto's latitude is 100% developed.That's only really true between Hamilton and Oshawa. Beyond either of those, you're into mainly farmland.
having a U shaped subway in the most dense part of the urban core seems so inefficient
>>2076271Why?
buses would be better in every possible way, and its cheaper to pave a lane of highway than do rail anyways, and more flexibleUrbanites are obsessed with retarded mass transit concepts because they think its supposed to be a free government service...
>>2076275I fixed it. It's a little crude, but illustrates my point quite effectively.
Guess it depends on what you considered "developed". My grandparents' farm near Pain Court is pretty much the same as it was fifty years ago when my dad was a teen. Even Pain Court itself is still just a couple dozen buildings.
>>2076359>Pain Courtthis is where the Marquis de Sade relocated to?
>>2076358This puts more traffic into fewer change stations
>>2076185It's never gonna be enough. The financial and political elite wants the population to reach five trillion so we all lose whether we're crammed in underfunded transit or in some cager hellscape
>>2076205I rode a bus from Buffalo to Toronto recently and a huge amount of southern Ontario is rolling farms, much like the area between Buffalo and Rochester. I wish this were true, but there's nowhere to go in southern Ontario immediately across the border. Fort Erie is right across the river from Buffalo but barely has any buildings above two stories
>>2077038The area you are describing is smaller than any WNY county.
>>2076185Toronto should have better high speed links to metro Detroit, so they can culturally enrich themselves faster.
>>2076205Southwestern Ontario isn't just the GTA. Any further southwest, you'll run into horse buggies and lawn jockeys. It's basically North Georgia when you aren't in the cities.
>Finch subway line going up to Richmond Hill StationWhat fantasy is this?
>>2077589https://www.metrolinx.com/en/projects-and-programs/yonge-north-subway-extension
Ontario's biggest problem is they cancelled the RER expanded GO service and they don't invest in inter-city transit. You should be able to take GO busses to Windsor, London, Kingston, Ottawa, Sudbury, Sault, etc.
>>2077184It's not smaller than Erie or Niagara county, the other counties I passed through on the trip
>>2076187>>2076205>t. never left the gta
>>2077790There are buses that go everywhere..
>>2078117Private ones with no integration with the existing infrastructureIf you take a bus from London to Toronto, you pick up at Western U or a truck stop near the 401 and drop off at Pearson or Bay and Front
>>2078137Yea and you can go whereever you want from unionYou'll never have service like that from the government because people treat it as a entitlement, thats supposed to lose money
>>2076185For what it is, Toronto has reasonable transit. The streetcars/trams are kind of inefficient, but I get the history with them. Toronto is a good Metropolitan city, the inhabitants need to stop pretending that its anything more that it currently is..
>>2077790They did bring back the Northlander rail service. Too bad the service doesn't extend to the west and North west though
>>2078171it's the best system in all of North America, yet all the natives do is bitch about it.try using public transit to get around Knoxville, TN sometime, canucks.sure, things can always be better, and expansion should be a constant thing, etc. but you're the most ungrateful people on the continent, I swear.
>>2078195I agree with you, Torontonians love to self deprecate even though our city and transit system is pretty good for a city of 5million
Also the new park they built in the Port is pretty spectacular, definitely world class infrastructure and recreational space. For context, this area used to be derelict industrial lands prone to flooding.
>>2078213looks like shit to me and it was definitely a jew who designed those bridges
>>2078214The bridges came from the Netherlands, the park itself is pleasant to bike around or paddle down the river channel. It used to be the bottom part of Pic related, now it's a green space with water features
All of Toronto should be vaporized. Cancer killing cucknada
>>2078224Unnecessary remark.
>>2076187Most of Ontario is untamed wilderness and Southern Ontario is mostly farm land
>>2078195LOL. Mexico City's system puts Toronto's to shame.
>>2078278mexico city is... slightly bigger than toronto, howeverbeit
>>2078317population of canada in 1960 was 18 millionpopulation of mexico was 36 millionIt was the choice of our rulers to turn our countries into irrelevant tiny backwaters
>>2078317Doesn't change the fact that Mexico City's system has far better coverage than Toronto. But please don't look up the safety record.
>>2078319>It was the choice of our rulers to turn our countries into irrelevant tiny backwatersCanada was the concession given to the British for losing the Revolutionary War under the terms of the Treaty of Paris. Relevance was just never in its cards
>>2078331This is an untrue statement
>>2078564This is exactly what happened though. The Treaty of Paris outlined the boundary between the United States and what was then-referred to as "British North America"
