Is picrel livable if there's a long bike trail nearby? I've never lived anywhere like this
Imagine killing a years old passenger rail thread to screech about "urban planning" (whining about people over 30 and cars)
>>2076897>look at picrel>hmm looks like home>reverse image search>image is of a neighborhood five miles away
>>2076897Yes, if you're not a communist.
>>2076897no, please stay away from those places as much as possible.
>>2076901Did you notice how urbanism shill threads came to a screeching halt after USAID got gutted? They're slowly coming back, I wonder who's behind them this time
>no hills It's shit
>>2076897thats not even really a suburb, it's just not super dense. a REAL suburb would be full of cul-de-sacs and all those streets the houses are on would not connect to the main road and instead use an arterial layout. that pic looks like any random residential neighborhood in fucking Montreal
>>2076949Are you stupid? it was literally one of the first suburbs in America
>>2076908How do you feel about cars?
>>2076957I deserve one for free because I spend all day eating HRT and playing Animal Crossing: New Horizons
>>2076969That would be a wonderful way to support a less harmful lifestyle, compared to the of a modern, planet destroying, neoliberal pretend busy work most "jobs" are, all to pay for a pick up truck so everyone knows you arent a queer, or whatever manipulative marketing scheme some little jew tricked you into.
>>2076954Are you? He is absolutely right. Words are a fluid code. The houses that destroyed america, arent the ones that look like Queens, NY, which some people say.....is part of new york city......
>>2076997These are post war surburban tract homes
>>2076925>They're slowly coming backTo non retards, this would be conclusive evidence it had nothing to do with USAID in the first place
>>2077000They sure are. These are the first "suburbs". Where you can walk out your door and see the skyline of Manhattan.....thats not what the modern term has come to mean. Where does Queens end and Long Island (as people use the term) begin? Not the southside of Chicago, or Dundalk or even Fontana.It means outer Atlanta, outer d.c.. Anywhere specifically designed to hide from city tax structure and politics but still parasite off them in medium density. Im sorry subtlety is so difficult for you.
>>2076925>>2077039It wasn't USAID, it was the fact that the 15 minute city articles got so much pushback from normies it had to be rebranded as a conspiracy theory. Plus there was also the fact that there were real-life events that undermined a lot of the popular urbanist dogma around the same time.
>>2077051Thats true. Im not an "urbanist" as a cause, thats illegitimate starting point, like theism. Im want to stop paying for the upper middle classes misadventures.The word codes wrong as neoliberal bug person forcing and the reactionaries are right about that. On both side there its right for the wrong reasons, and both sabotaging themselves and talking past each other (e.g., politics) the only difference is lefties , naturally for them, trying to get into people's lives. When the only moral thing is to stay out of peoples lives. The base right are so stupid they wont educate themselves, or so stupid they cant, and see someone they hate saying something they dont like to hear, cause they dont realize they are commies (free roads, cheap fuel, crony captialism enabling the blowing out the country like a 2 dollar whore).The rebrand should be "small townist". Even JHK hasn't caught on to that, although he is living it. He had much the same reaction to major cities that squatting southern democrats do: major cities are unnatural. So he says the metroplexes cant be serviced and have no future. That skycrapers arent modular therefore can never be retrofitted. That elevators are overly comsuptive darlings. So your "city" is gonna be a six story minimum walk up, like Barcelona. Our coding for this stuff is all broken, thus so much pushback/confusion. I haven't heard about 15 minute cities until a few months ago. Yet john cougar melloncamp had traction forever singing about "small towns" to these retards at farm aid (communism) for decades......they are the same thing...
>>2077039Not falling for it lol
>>2077046>these aren't suburbs they are 'suburbs'Guys New York isn't a a city it's a 'city'
>>2077051No normies ever heard of 15 minute cities. Only people who got themselves sucked into the urban planning social media vortex (pro- or anti-, it's effectively the same thing) have ever heard the term and even you retards have completely forgotten about it since the social media companies started pushing other shit on you.
>>2077058>the social media companiesThat were and still are funded by various nefarious interests, including USAID
>>2077059they're funded by you retard
>>207705115 minute city was always a typical internet autism because normal people intuitively understand that cities have different areas catering to different demographics, quiet suburbs, party zones, financial district, etc. This 15 minute thing was yet another thing caused by these NGO bureaucratic autists being unable to understand things and being unable to relate to normal people. In reality no one wants it and it is not even possible to have every district and area to have the same functionality so people just stay in their 15 minute containment zone
>>2077066Yes, I pay taxes. Tell me something I don't know, retard
>>2077056>"suburbs" where the house are 3000 square feet and 16 units per acre are the problem.Again, incapable of internalizing finer points.....do you know the average built height of new your city?>>2077058Being able walk to everything, and not be a slave to car, and past miles of what you dont own, on a road built with stolen money, staring at the back of another car for an hour, to get to the one place you want to go (a store, event or 3rd place), squandering 500 million years of stored sunshine: petroleum, the master recourse, the most enviromental fuel, a gallon of which is equivalent to 40 acres of wheat........is "oppressive".....>>2077059And yet....still cant change reality....>>2077067Once more: just cause a liberal said it, doesnt mean its untrue. Its like saying hilter also breathed air.....
>>2077069>Being able walk to everything, and not be a slave to car, and past miles of what you dont own, on a road built with stolen money, staring at the back of another car for an hour, to get to the one place you want to go (a store, event or 3rd place), squandering 500 million years of stored sunshine: petroleum, the master recourse, the most enviromental fuel, a gallon of which is equivalent to 40 acres of wheat........is "oppressive".....And yet....still cant change reality....
>>2077075Oh but you can, Dr. King.
>>2077069>aieeee, how dare you use private transportation to get where you want to go instead of slaving away at a farm you never leave in your life like a peasantlol>Once more: just cause a liberal said it, doesnt mean its untruewhat's untrue? it's just nonsense spread by totaliarian trannies. it's not reality no matter how much you dilate over who said it and play victim.
Do you people not have real jobs? How do you walk to a cement plant in your 15 min walkable city?
>>2077079unironically all the blue collar dudes I know are slowly transitioning to e-bikes as they get too many DUIs or have too many babby mommas to make car notes anymore.>>2077075>a gallon of which is equivalent to 40 acres of wheattrue and based. biodiesel did nothing wrong
>muh 15-minute cityCould be possible with public transit + bikes(there is Houten, after all, albeit it's a small town), but, of course, neoliberals and lefty types pushing that stuff can't handle tweakers and other subhumans stealing everything they can get their hands on, not to mention professional thieves, so good luck leaving a bike without supervision when law-abiding citizens can't even intervene when a bike is being stolen because they don't have any self-defense tool nor aren't even allowed to hurt the thief.You would have to go national socialist(not in Jew-killing sense, but it would help) to recreate a high-trust society by violently dealing with all low-life criminals.
>>2077079>How do you walk to a cement plant in your 15 min walkable city?In ye old murica, before invention of cars, they had separate bicycle roads, one photo suggested those could be built raised above other stuff.
>>2077087>walkable city is actually about cyclinglmao>In ye old murica, before invention of cars, they had separate bicycle roadsutter and total bullshit
>>2077078Farms would only be on the outer ring after mighty amusement park like parking lots aproning the city. But really they can be anywhere is they are effectively no density and leave their houses once a week like people should to go to walmart....or hopefully not some american hollowing out Corp.>>2077069>what's untrueThats u.s. society is built around cheap energy that you dont own, cheap gasoline isnt in the bill or rights, any like anything that matters, no one should be talking at this level unless its a civil perparededness issue. WE ARE WEAK. The fragile little girls in the gay pickup truck club are in denial about that. If only their fatal fashion accessories could be composted into a victory garden.....As the man says, reality has its own mandates, politics are not involved in anyway in the energy realities of the future. The shale oil "miracle", is the open joke of literal blood from a stone. You even had Obama of all people saying "we have 100 years of oil", because the government isnt a nonprofit, its a wealth development corporation. Long as you turn the vw logo into a rainbow flag for a month, we will tell the public the world isnt on fire. And btw, no trannies are in charge anywhere, in anyway, in any statistically signifigant way. Lefties only use push their "visibility" as a humiliation ritual/distraction to draw out chuds to get laughed at. Its the most incredible political device ever created. Dont take the bait. Or do and be exposed. They answer is single use bathrooms, for every other reason.>>2077079There would be a train or busline or corporate shuttle (ideal, so no more copay from infrastructure to nowhere) from human living spaces, to the margins where industrial corridors are. Such installations are land scrapers and destroy all efficient arrangement people on the landscape. You are thinking of an auto plant where 1000 people work, which is all the more important mega corps pay for their own development.....
>>2077111>Thats u.s. society is built around cheap energy that you dont ownactually Americans do own vast amounts of cheap energy, plus a ton more in the neighboring Canada>cheap gasoline isnt in the bill or rightsneither is cycling or being a schizoid nigger on /n/ yet here you are>any like anything that matters, no one should be talking at this level unless its a civil perparededness issue. WE ARE WEAK. The fragile little girls in the gay pickup truck club are in denial about that. If only their fatal fashion accessories could be composted into a victory garden.....if only creatures like you were still kept in the mental facilities....>he shale oil "miracle", is the open joke of literal blood from a stoneESL or mental retardation call it.>You even had Obama of all people saying "we have 100 years of oil"lmao
>>2077096>utter and total bullshit
>>2077115>operated for less than two years>one-of-a-kind, never repeated elsewhere>was not free--required a toll, equivalent to $4 today>"I have concluded that we are a little ahead of time on this cycleway. Wheelmen have not evidenced enough interest in it and so we will lie still for a time and use it for an automobile service. But those vehicles are not yet common or perfect enough to jump into business."Using that as an example is disingenuous at best.
>>2077120not as disingenous as desperately ignoring horses and carriages to suck up the circus exhibits that were the 19th century bicycles
>>2077115>>2077120can't believe california has always been doing stupid public works projects that dont go anywhere, no one wants, and are horrifically over-budget and financially unsustainable
>>2077096Lol I knew as when you posted this that he'd reply with that exact photo >>2077115
