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I would get those just to trigger zoomers and then type with

Reddit.

Spacing.

And full punctuation and capitalization, too!

p.s. I wear slim fit raw denim

>>2077464
we should make ahegao hentai jerseys desu

>>2077466
Getting triggered by reddit spacing is a millenial thing. Zoom zooms don't even know it's supposed to bother you.

>>2077482
define "reddit spacing", right now

>>2077485
maybe we should talk about bikes

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>>2077487
Best cranks for picrel under 1000$?

>>2077488
gay

>>2077488
Have some self respect and get a tw200 anon

>>2077464
Report because I'm blind
Are there some actually decent brands of bags/sacks for the trekking bike? I'm thinking of getting a casual side sacks for the rear for groceries while leaving top of the trunk free for attach whatever I end up needing to transport and attach with those rubber straps(I got the TUBUS brand, seems pretty solid).
Generally I want it for commuting, grocery runs and weekend trekking. Thievery seems to not be so rampart over here(people are locking their e-bikes with cable locks ffs), but I'm going to be fairly paranoid anyway, so I doubt I will be leaving it by the gym for over a hour or so(which is shame, because parking is sometimes an issue)

>>2077512
Tubus is pretty much always sold in lockstep with Ortlieb, did you miss that detail when you got your rack or is there a reason you don't like Ortlieb?

>>2077092
>Merida big nine
I used to work in a bikeshop that sold that model, (2021) modelyear, shimano altus group with tektro brakes, it's alright, but a bit on the heavy end, especially on the front, (suntour fork) but it rides nicely for the short testrides i took i it, there's just better MTB's to get, and i havent ridden many i'm in Belgium, not a lot of MTB culture here

>>2077513
The rear rack is some MonkeyLoad thing. I just bought straps alone when ordering the bike.

This is really fucking stupid, but I need to ask.

Started riding my road bike for work commutes recently. Haven't really cycled in the past 4 years, but it's gotten really fucking uncomfortable. It feels like the seat is digging into my bones now and it's not like my weight has changed significantly over the years, my ass is arguably bigger now due to more glute focused gym work.

I used to be able to ride on it for hours without issue, but now a 30 minute cycle painful. I don't think my riding ergonomics have changed that much, so I suppose it's the seat, but I have no idea how/why it's gotten so hard over the years.

Is this a sign I should just get a new seat?

>>2077512
keep an eye on what silk road bikes are using.
aeroe makes nice things for example. a lot of people seem to favor custom bags but I don't know anything about that.

>>2077621
give yourself a while to re-adapt. saddles are comfortable when your core is strong, your balance and flexibility are excellent, and you are putting down smooth power. if your commute involves a lot of starts/stops and lower power output to avoid sweating, a more relaxed riding position might help. If you've been comfortable on that saddle before you probably should stick with it or find something similar. these things aren't chairs; they work differently when you're trying to sit on them rather than using them as a balance point to control pedaling and maneuvering forces.

>>2077625
Thanks for the reassurance. I'll just stick with it for the time being in that case.

w2c fuel primer bulbs for mad cheap without either manufacturing them at home

it's for pedalelec 2smoke

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It's getting too warm for a coat. I still need good pockets that neither interfere with my hips, are undue weight on my legs, nor explode everything out of them as I pedal no matter where they are. Would it be cringe to wear my shitty fishing vest to bike about? I normally carry a lot of shit.

>>2077633
>Would it be cringe to wear my shitty fishing vest to bike about
Just fucking wear it you twit. Worrying about being cringe is the cringiest thing possible.

>>2077635
i was trying to be provocative but in actual honesty what is the best way to carry shit on your person

i could just wear myt shitty fishing vest but i already have a lil' roll-up tool pouch and it is inconvenient wherever i put it. not even memeing but i dont even mind the weight of a full fursuit -- i am not a fursuiter, but have had to do mascot shit and it's fine. but as much as i like having All My Stuff All The Time it's always a little annoying to make space for it "properly". what is the real Properly that doesnt need snarl quotes to carry tools and some ancilliary gear (i unironically stopped carrying my memefeng radio because it was fucking annoying and kept getting caught on shit)

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I have an ebike i sometimes pedal, but there's also a 2stroke engine on it. i hated the frame when i got it, and only hate it now because I don't have the tools to fit random tubes and pipes to it to accommodate more accessories and support structure. it's a piece of shit with three independent drivetrains so where do i poast about it

>>2077633
If it has to stay on your person then maybe a fanny pack. Or a backpack. Then there are bags that attach to various points on the bike. There are easy-disconnect bags for the handlebars that become satchels you walk around with.

Or if you're like me and haul gear and groceries, install a rack and get pannier bags.

>>2077638
I have a shitty backpack I don't like. I have a lot of cotton webbing and tried to rig a duty belt; didn't like that either. Stuff slips around, no matter how tight you cinch it. My usual thing is a messenger bag, and stuff fits, but it takes up more space than I'd like in what should be spare storage.

>panniers
I'll admit I've been lazy and have some modern plastic .50 ammo cans I've been meaning to mount, but I still prefer to have stuff like tools on my person because it's too easy to either not bike for a day but still need a wrench, or bike in and not be wearing the usual bag because it's too big or too small. And then I'm missing something as simple as a wrench. And you just know the one day you need it, you don't have it.

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>>2077633
Borga

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Why is the saddle that high? Is it a meme? I can't believe someone could ride with their head below their ass, yet every ad I see shows this.

>>2077653
maybe they tried to show how far the seatpost extends. Considering the stem length and amount of spacers this geometry makes no sense unless you're gondola.

>>2077636
I use a fishing vest for bikepacking and during colder rides. Fanny packs are good too. Consider also getting a removable handlebar bag if you don't like have it on your person while you ride.

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>>2077621
your soft tissue has gotten re-sensitized while you were off the bike. this much is true. just gotta tough it out for a month or whatever and it'll desensitize again.
your saddle may need adjustment.
saddle height is the most significant key to overall fit. also, is it level? does the nose stick up or down more than the rear? how forward or aft in the clamp it is can be a factor but usually that's the last position I dial in since it's the least significant ime.
a different saddle could help. or hurt. sounds like you were ok with it before so maybe you will be again. the width compared with your sitbone width is the most significant factor, which is also dependent on your riding stance. this chart corresponds to this particular mfr. but you get the overall idea.
the real answer is you just have to try a bunch of saddles, unfortunately.

>>2077623
not him but good idea.

from the way you posted I thought "Silk" was a roadbike brand, but I figured it out. found this
https://bikepacking.com/bikes/2025-silk-road-mountain-race-rigs-part-two/
seems like Apidura and Tailfin come up a lot. lots of custom. I'm sure all their choices must be really expensive, I saw a guy said Ortlieb but that's also $.

>>2077631
we ride bicycles here.
>>>E
BIKE
THREAD

>>2077633
the winning move it to keep cargo on the bike not your body. even if the weight doesn't bother you, the cargo next to your body makes you sweat there and retains heat instead of getting airflow.

I like a handlebar basket so I can see where everything is and get it easily while riding. but there's about a zillion small bag options, and racks+bags/baskets/milk crates for large cargo

>>2077637
probably the Ebike thread, I'm assuming. pretty sure I've seen gas powered stuff there when I scroll by

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>>2077633
this is what is use when im wearing a bib with no pockets its for running but i dont notice it when im riding

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>>2077653
I know noobs don't want to believe this because they think the saddle height is so you can put your feet on the ground while stopped; but actually, correct saddle height is so your engine (i.e. you) works best mechanically. pic related.
>b-but...
the newer style frames have a sloping top tube that exposes much more of the seat post. see how it's slanted compared to pic?
also, that is a pretty small frame. it may just be a bike he was given or outgrew but he's riding it anyway. he obviously likes going fast so maybe he likes the crouch for more aero and power. and prefers a smaller frame since he prefers being folded up. which would be a weight benefit since he's obviously a weight weenie fred racer.

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>>2077669
look how short his stem is and how he has his hooks angled relative to drops he's either a genetic freak or has no idea what hes doing

>>2077671
he's on the wrong sized frame and stem, certainly. if he chose them on purpose rather than just not knowing about these things when he bought it (rather than it was a hand-me-down, or whatever) then he's a fool, but there is a chance he did it on purpose. some freds like undersized frames. maybe he read that and overdid it. who knows?
he's almost certainly got the proper leg extension because it would be impossible to pedal otherwise. even if he's doing it wrong and locking out his knees and rocking back and forth, you only gain a couple inches that way, it would still be a long post if he corrected for that.
I'm saying he's probably an idiot, but he did the one thing he could control on this given bike correctly.

Was out riding today and some dude in an Altima started yelling at me. I didn't hear most of it but I'm positive he finished with "GET ON THE SIDEWALK YOU SLUT"

Why did he call me a slut? Fag or some racial slur I could get, but why "slut"? Not a troon or f*moid btw

>>2077676
>trying to apply logic to npc actions

I was riding to work on Wednesday and was in the left lane about to make a left turn with nobody behind me when the guy coming toward me in the oncoming lane leaned on his horn as if I was breaking the law. I hadn't even started the turn or signaled for it yet, I was just in position to make it once I reached the junction.

The truth is, a lot of drivers simply don't know the traffic laws. They think we have to be on the shoulder, bike lane, or sidewalk. Seeing a cyclist near the yellow line is completely shocking to some people. There are even studies suggesting that cyclists understand and/or obey traffic laws better than drivers. Google it, there are dozens of studies.

TL;DR: Assume everyone is retarded, especially drivers.

>>2077677
It's hard to appreciate that the scale of society and the vast number of different things to know about. It exceeds the casual person unless they've done the thing or lived around people doing the thing. I tend to forgive such things by using this context.

Anecdotally I started city biking frequently two summers ago and up until that point hadn't even considered using the main lanes, much less presence in the left lane. Seemed so obviously dangerous that nobody would do it (and obviously I hadn't seen other people it). Up to that point city biking was something I might do in the bike lane or on the sidewalk, and use pedestrian crosswalks for left crossings. Learned pretty quickly how wrong I was.

That said, fuck that guy for using the horn. If he'd yelled or gestured then it's just ignorance but horns are loud.

>>2077679
>It's hard to appreciate that the scale of society and the vast number of different things to know about.

Mature outlook. However, drivers had to learn all of these laws and take a test, including dealing with pedestrians and cyclists. It's all in the handbook.

>>2077676
If you're in lycra normies think you're a girl unless they can see your face

Also people in altimas are usually uh. Not the best specimens

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>>2077653
above an certain speed aerodynamics matters more than any other factor.
also the UCI bans most attempts to make bikes faster.

If i weigh 90-100kg, and ride in shitty broken roads and gravel is it safe to say that the minimum acceptable 28"/622 wheel in my case is one with 36 spokes? In order for the rim to withstand the punishment. Would a 32 spoke wheel be realistically viable? Or would be unreliable?

>>2077763
I'm about 90kg and I don't use special wheels. I do have a somewhat fancy front wheel on my fast bike, but it's 20 spoke 622. the rear is normal 32 spoke. my other bike is 630 wheelset 32 spoke. and they go offroad quite a bit.
it is important that the spokes are tensioned correctly and evenly, though. so check for loose(er) spokes and address that yourself or at a shop.

furthermore, I've only seen 622 referred to as "28" on tubes I buy from china. 622 is usually called 700c, or MTBers call it 29”

>>2077769
>622 is usually called 700c, or MTBers call it 29”
stupid faggot

years ago when I bought my first road bike I bought a 58cm one since I'm 6' and that's what all the guides said to buy based on my height. I actually remember the guy where I bought it from telling me I should get it in a 56cm or smaller but didn't listen stupidly.

It's not uncomfortable to ride, but over time I adjusted the seat all the way forward as far as it could go as well as replaced the original 10cm stem with a 9cm one which has made it a far more comfortable ride for me.

Well I want to get a new bike now and I think I'm going to get a 54cm. Shouldn't be a problem right? Even if it was "too small" I could always just adjust the seat position backwards or get a slightly longer stem I guess right?

>>2077778
no u

>>2077769
i can speak from direct experience that my " 29" " bso mtb tires do not fit on my 622 wheels, and in fact the 29 wheel with a tire on it does not fit in the wheelwell of my 622 bike. and even if it had slightly different geo so it did, the brakes would be in the wrong spot.

that said i did throw a 26" on it in a pinch and it's rode fine since. no brakes though, but it fits and the ride quality is actually slightly better, probably the slightly lower CoG and wide-ass 2" tires

>>2077763
if you're that fat there is no reason to not get a normal ass 36 spoke wheel and no aero/weight advantage dropping spokes will give you that will outweigh you, BLAWB

>>2077782
it's really not that simple. this is another one of those things where the prevailing wisdom of 40 years ago is being parroted without any real understanding of how much things have changed.

back then, the best you could get was "close enough."

if you don't have the knowledge and preference base to make informed choices about things like trail, rake, chainstay length, wheelbase, headtube angle, etc.... pay for a bike fit. yes it hurts. do it anyway.

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>>2077806

>>2077811
they say this shit but it aint true. again, direct experience. it didnt work. diameters were all wrong

>>2077782
on the one hand le bike fitmans is a meme for people to larp as racers, but also getting a bike that doesnt fit you is a skill issue on par with buying off-the-rack clothing without trying it on first (compared to the equivalent of going to a tailor for your t-shirts)

>>2077812
your experience with BSO shit is not representational. buy trash, get trash results.

>>2077680
I did my driver license not too long ago and we barely covered cyclists here. Considering driving school wasn't even mandatory not too long ago plenty of drivers know fuck all about cyclists laws. I had a idiot fucking neighborhood security guard try to chastise me for doing a left turn out of a left lane.

>>2077814
the standards ain't standard and the only solution is to hit your shit with a tape measure and calipers as required. idk why manufacturers are so afraid of just making a data sheet

>>2077816
I have never once purchased a tire and been unable to seat it. Your problems are you-problems not industry problems.

>>2077818
it's not about it "seating" it's simply the wrong size

>>2077819
You don't magically have a unique wheel diameter. 28/29/700c tires are interchangeable. If they fit into your bike frame it's a different story and it's only due to tire width. You don't magically have a different wheel size. This is 100% a you being a wrenchlet problem.

>>2077769
I've seen it called 28 on hyrbid tires at or below 2". The schwalbe big apple for example is sold as a 28" tire. it's a 622.

>>2077820
>This is 100% a you being a wrenchlet problem.
well i didnt buy the wheels/tires, it was all just shit i had lying around. were i to explicitly buy new wheels i would take the nonsense numbers off of whatever i was replacing and look for that. but bike tire wheel/tire standards are all stupid and don't actually describe anything properly

again, simply providing a real data sheet with actual dimensions would be better than nebulous non-standard "standards" that are really just "it's part number xyz from manufacturer w but a knockoff lol"

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Anyone kno where I can buy clear or translucent hood covers?
I saw some guy had them on his super record but I can't find the pic

>>2077834
just putting it out there that there are multi color hoods for high tier Shimano and sram levers on ali.
but translucent and campy I've never heard of, sorry

>>2077834
could be 3d printed

>>2077834
>>2077835
honestly it could be on Ali, I was looking for Shimano so I wasn't focused on other stuff. couldn't hurt to look.

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HELP!
when i pedal backwards, there is this slight chain grinding click that seem to be coming from the top derailleur pulley, the chain doesn't seem to slide smoothly in the teeth but only clicks in late in the rev.
Is this normal? I only noticed it when i backpedalled with my hand in the quiteness of my house?
I also noticed that when i lifted the rear wheel and hand-pedalled forwared in third gear that there's this unsmooth chain grinding sound. Is it because of the offset of the chain between the 3rd gear and the single front chaingear?
Sorry im newfag

>>2077847
in order of likelihood;
1 you are crosschained and so the gears are being a little noisy
2. the derailleur needs a little bit of adjustment. learn how to use the barrel adjusters to fine-tune your shifting. if hat doesn't quite solve things you may also need to adjust the B-tension screw. avoid messing with the high/low limit atops.
3. your bottom-of-the-barrel chinesium drivetrain might just suck.
4. your derailleur hanger might be a tiny, tiny bit bent. you can have a bike shop check this.

>>2077850
i just tested the other gears and the forward pedaling chain noise disappears from the 4th gear onward. but the back pedaling chain clicking persists even on higher gears

>>2077847
modern cassettes and chains arent really made to be pedaled in reverse. Clicking is usually from the chain sliding into position on the sprockets every couple chain links. It's a non-issue if its only clicking while pedalling backwards.

>>2077806
you are a retardaholic
you are addicted to retardahol

>derailleur doesn't have enough space in it to allow using a quick link

good morning i hate protestants

>>2077860
A quick link should be the same size as a regular chain link, no? Are you using the wrong speed/width, or flattop or something?

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>>2077834
hudz but i think they stopped making clear ones for newer groupsets

how does one mount a big touring bag on non-round deep aero seat post

>>2077866
the link is the same size but it has a little bit extra poking out for the clip

i fixed it by jamming a washer on the guide sproket to widen it

>>2077873
>a little bit extra poking out for the clip
That's not a QL you nigger .
That's a Master Link and they are depreciated.

>hurr durr i had to destroy my derailer because im too stupid to know what chains is

You are so fucking retarded.

>>2077847
this is completely normal and is due to how freewheels work. the clicking is probably the ratcheting mechanism and your derailleur might just be dirty or a little too tight. but it's normal for it to move around and go to full extension before the chain starts to move completely freely, and the derailleur going out might result in it going out of alignment slightly (it will be in proper alignment when pedalling forwards or not moving THOUGH)

I'm confused about new road bikes, they have thicker chassis, are they heavier than old ones?
Can someone give me some good model of road bicycles?

>>2077928
>are they heavier than old ones?

no

>>2077928
>Can someone give me some good model of road bicycles?

LOOK, Colnago, Cervelo, Pinarello, BMC
Giant, Cannondale, Specialized, Trek, All City
CUBE, Canyon, Fuji, etc

anything sold at a bike shop is probably just fine as long as it fits you well.

bikes have gotten so good in recent years that even the relatively low-end ones obliterate anything made before ~2010

>>2077930
>LOOK, Colnago, Cervelo, Pinarello, BMC
>Giant, Cannondale, Specialized, Trek, All City
>CUBE, Canyon, Fuji, etc
Nta but how do you not know the difference between a model and a brand?

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For a while on my bike I had just one brake, and the other side's lever had a clutch. I got one of those dual-cable brake levers so I can have Two Independent Braking Systems As Per The Law and it just feels fucking gross. Braking performance is objectively really good, but it feels bad to use. Not emotionally, the physics going on are just nauseating. Maybe it is a little emotional but not because it's lazy, the physics going on just don't feel right when you're used to a normal bike brake setup where you choose which side of it is actually trying to stop.

How to arrange my controls so I can have two brake levers and a clutch lever on my handlebars and not have it feel even more gross? I already tried a three-lever setup and it was godawful and probably overtly unsafe

>chain actually exploded
>totally locked the rear wheel, came to a squealing stop (didnt wreck tho)
>salvageable lengths of chain are "lengths", plural


do i re-use it? i have the breaker-press thing and already put it back together without the completely shorn/bent links for practice

>>2077932
if you don't already know what sort of road bike you want, I don't see how specific model names would be useful to you?

>>2077936
>clutch lever
What?

>>2077940
What part of nta do you not understand

>>2077936
>>>/o/

>>2077621
Yeah that happens for the first couple weeks of riding. Should completely go away

>>2077936
>clutch lever
What?

>>2077621
Bro you're retarded & gay fr

>>2077936
kys furnigger

>>2077938
I don't know how you want to reuse that chain, it's gonna be too short if you remove the damaged fragments. The chain is also likely to snap again if you repair it, depending on what the issue is.

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>>2077930
It's so confusing to me (am noob). They all look so thick and heavy to me compared to vintage slender bikes, yet I have to deal with the fact they're somehow lighter.
Even in picrel?

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>>2077969
In case you can't tell I'm in love with the vintage Cinelli in the center.

>>2077970
nothing wrong with steel bikes, but are you seriously confused by the fact that aluminum and carbon fiber are lighter than steel, and that the thicknesses of those materials are thinner in cross-section than the steel tubing?

>>2077971
It's all visual. They're slender while the modern ones are fat. One metal doesn't "look" lighter than another one. Also I'm used to the idea old ones were thin in order to lose weight.
Also am noob.
(aka I ignore how they're made and the weight of steel, aluminium and carbon)

>>2077930
>>2077932
>>2077940
I am the anon asking advices about the model.
I looked into the ads around my place and found a Nakamura 200 century that looked cool, but sadly the ad is old and the guy won't answer.
A Century 200 or even Century 300 look affordable for my budget as second hand. Century 400 probably is too expansive/high level to me rn.

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>>2077633
JANDD
https://www.jandd.com/
https://www.jandd.com/bikes.asp
specifically:
https://www.jandd.com/search_results.asp?subcat=4

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>>2077650
BORGAR :) sadly draws too much attention :(

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>>2077969
those are aero bikes

>>2077969
The new bikes are objectively better to ride on. Bigger tires means a softer smoother ride (which also means you can go faster and still have grip). The brakes are more effective, the gearing is more comfortable, they're stiff where they need to be stiff, and compliant where they don't need to be stiff. They are easier to control, easier to ride, easier to not lose control in adverse conditions.

Don't listen to the #steelisreal contrarians, they will literally defend a turd if they feel that it helps their battle against modernity and comfort.

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>>2077982
I see Jandd makes hardware kits for making cat-litter-bucket panniers (or any sturdy box shaped thing.)
you can even buy the hooks separately, which I think I'm going to do for some milsurp bags I have
neat.

>>2077995
I should get a cat so I can show my slavish devotion to it by fetching its cat litter in special cat litter bucket panniers

Glory be to the lord god Oreo, praise be to His claws, may His black coat and white paws absolve us of our sins, amen

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>>2077983
bernie was right

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>>2078001
BERNIE DID NOTHING WRONG

>>2077995
jandd is legit. practical, albiet a tad ugly. kind of like their website. straight outta the 90s geocities

>>2077999
blessed trips. you're on a mission from god

>>2078003
yeah, the site was a pleasant surprise

>>2077999
no, you silly. I mean, sure, you could transport cat litter in them, but you can transport anything you want in them. they make kits for the EMPTY buckets because they're available everywhere, the perfect shape, waterproof, and free for everyone with a cat, or who knows someone with a cat; which is everyone.
you don't go to the store, buy cat litter, and then affix the hardware there and go home. you need a drill and wrenches and stuff. it's to reuse the empty buckets, you dunce.

>>2077982
>https://www.jandd.com/
this site is incredibly based but my jewish genes are making me not want to buy anything from them. it's all normal backpacks, or hardware kits i can get from a normal store for half the price and even paying more i STILL would have to bodge shit

>>2078034
their bike bags seem nice. pricey, but I have no idea what other companies charge so it might be normal.

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>>2078034
they're really high quality regarding durability and weather resistance, built to last. i have a 20yr old saddle bag. the bag still looks brand new, as ugly as the day i bought it. very lowkey, thieves leave it alone

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>>2078035
if you got the dough it's well worth it. look at their rotating specials for discounts

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What are good glasses? Is there a better shape to prevent the wind from entering your eyes? You prefer glasses or glass on your helmet?

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>>2078045
just bought this, I hope it will prevent my crotch to be compressed and irritated.
I'd never have thought I would wear this gay tight budgie smugglers yet here I am…

what do you do when hit by a car but the police won't pursue it? my friend got hit at a busy intersection, the driver got out of his car for a sec but then took off. that particular intersection has 2 large businesses and a few cameras just operated by the local cops. its on video. friend said he asked the walgreens to see what they had, but was denied and was told if the cops ask for it they'd provide it. at the actual scene the cops came, ems. his leg was very bruised up, like half of it black and white, but nothing broken thankfully. he said he asked for a police report and was told there is none. so they didn't even write something about the whole incident. is there anything to do at this point if the cops won't do something? given the specific date and time of the incident, could you foia the police for whatever footage they have within a certain time frame of that intersection?

>>2078053
Dude I had a guy crash into my car and drive away. I had his plate and a witness in my car and they still didn't do anything. Cops suck fat hairy cocks.

>>2078054
gay. get a camera for both front and rear. i had to deal with this bullshit where a woman ran into my mother's car while she was stopped at a red light, and the woman claims my mom reversed into her. the woman was claiming injury and all sorts of shit. when her insurance company called about settling, i already had gone to a jewelry store thats right at that intersection and had the video showing the whoel thing. they asked for a copy of it and i said no, you're paying for this or we'll see you in court. they could've went to the same store and got the same footage since they were willing to give it, but didn't even bother after that. the video clearly showed my mom at a stand still behind another car, then this woman bumping into her at like 5mph.

in this bike case my friend is more upset now that the cops are letting a hit and run go than he is about his bike even. when i looked over the bike myself i think the frame is fine. handlebars were offset but not dented or folded, frame looks fine, wheels were trashed and obviously went underneath something

i'm not sure what can even be done now that theres no report but i know for fucking sure no how minor of an issue in the future, i'm going to request the police report multiple times so something is on paper at least

>>2078045
>>2078046
there is a reason oakleys are popular but if you want something basic just get tifosis they're like 85% as good for like 1/3 the price. good bibs are 100% worth the extra money though so if you're on a budget put most of it on that

>>2078053
If you want to pursue damages you can possibly force a police report by walking into the precinct and demanding to report a hit and run but don't expect them to investigate it, most cops only signed up for the job so they can cuff and rape teenage girl "suspects" and shoot black guys in the back and brag about it online

>>2078046
there's nothing wrong with it, but their utility depends on how long you're in the saddle and your personal threshold for irritation.
you can just get started with tshirts and shorts, you don't have to throw a bunch of money into the official fred costume until you feel you need it.
the most important thing now is just riding. learning how the gears work and when to use them. learning how to brake effectively. getting in the habit of using the water bottles. going a distance you've never gone before without killing yourself. then doing it fast. then going further.

dialing in your bike fit is the single best thing you can do now for comfort.

I wouldn't bother with the glasses unless the wind/bugs bother you. I didn't buy any spandex until I started going over 30 miles and my ass was getting tender towards the end. I have one pair of padded shorts and I only wear them on long rides. still no jersey.
but yeah, wear that stuff since you've got it, as long as you're into it. I just don't want you to waste a bunch of money thinking you have to fit in to some stereotype.

>>2078053
I have no idea if this is true but since lawyers are members of the bar assn, and therefore agents of the court, doesn't that mean they can get the camera footage without the cops? and make them do a report? the big time tv lawyers you can call up and ask and they don't charge until they take you on, or sometimes only if you win the case. couldn't hurt to call, but a lot of them specialize in car accidents, could be out of their specialty.

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are hardtail mountain bikes inherently more rugged than Hybrids? like do MTBs make better urban workhorses than hybrids?
i was looking for a hybrid but ended up getting a hardtail mtb for mostly city commuting because my shitty 3rd-world country doesn't have any good hybrids. but i still want to buy one as soon as i find it, which got me thinking: my current MTB has thick aluminum frame, fat 27.5" x 54mm or so tires, and seems it can take some urban punishment.

>>2078075
Obviously a hybrid would be less rugged than an MTB. At most it can do some mild offroading since a hybrid is essentially a gravel bike. An mtb wouldn't necessarily be a better urban workhose since it's overbuilt for that environment. A vintage steel frame is more than rugged enough for an urban environment, upgraded with some modern components and you're set. I used a hardtail for commuting and I've used a hybrid for commuting and prefer a hybrid.

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>>2078075
modern hardtails are abominations

>>2078082
Why?

>>2078082
That's a trail hardtail. Riding round town on that it retarded. Xc hardtails are the ones you can get for $400 and that you see people ride on.

>>2078080
>>2078082
i meant are there frames intentionally made tougher (more longer-lasting) than hybrid frames?

>>2078089
ngl that highly sloping triangular frame is ugly af.

>>2078089
They are too long my bike isn't even that slack and it's a pain in tight switchback trails they are being optimized for descending

>>2078094
>longer lasting
frames of any kind aren't really a wear item.
if you take a super hard hit the wrong way they can break, or bend or get run over by a car etc.
but just by riding them, they don't fall apart or wear out ever.

>>2078095
Subjective
>>2078096
Then get something with different geo. It's not that hard to find something for you with the hundreds of bike manufacturers. It's like complaining an XC bike can't do downhill. No shit, it's not made for that. Fuck I hate this board.

>>2078094
If you want longer lasting get steel. Alloy has a fatigue limit and will eventually crack. Could be in 5 years or 30 years depending how you ride it. Steel you need to crash in a way where you're probably going to die to break it, but it can rust.

>>2078108
no

Just bought a Marin Fairfax 1 (new). Now that I'm locked in to my non-refundable order, how badly did I fuck up?

>>2078123
It is a good bike but there will be pain later

>>2078123
If I had to buy a new bike I would get something like that

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Shill me some decent gravel tires for 75/25 asphalt/moderate gravel in 40-45mm.
Currently riding on Schwalbe Overland 365 that came with my Cube, but they are kind off ass in terms of rolling resistance. Was thinking something like Gravelking SS or similar semi-slicks.

>>2078175
try something from vittoria

>start assembling first bike with fully internal cable routing
>get some foam sleeves so the cables don't rattle
>put it together
>hear foam sleeves rubbing against each other when I turn the handlebars
what now? too long foam sections, too short? build not yet finished, so I can still fix it

>>2078184
T10 also look pretty good, but seeing some reports of mediocre rolling resistance.

>>2078236
take bike tire roolin resist reviews with a grain of salt. it's a fine resource but.... high-end schwalbe underperforms in the wild imo.

>>2078175
75/25 asphalt/moderate gravel is like 34mm, 45mm is for riding over snow banks

>>2078246
Roads around here are kind of ass and I enjoy the comfort of wider tires.

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How does the drop bar's brake grip compare with a flat bar grip in terms of posture?
i never truly considered drop bars, assuming they are uncomfortable for utilitarian purposes, but i keep seeing them more and more on touring bikes and stuff. so in terms of comfort and posture, how do they compare to the raised flat bars of MTBs when held from the brake grip like picrel?

>>2078282
Hold your hands out in front of you. Is it more comfortable to have your palms flat or vertical? The thing that newbies actually don't like about drops is that they come attached to road bikes which require proper core strength to ride comfortably. If you're a Grant fan you can get your drops on your party pace upright bike.

>>2078291
what about the back angle? i know the hand position on the brake grip is more ergonomic but is the back leaned forward more?

>>2078291
90% of the reason noobs think drops suck is they try to ride a bike that is the wrong size for them

The other 10% is shit like "core strength", but even that is really more about riding style, road bikes have such low rolling resistance that people using them to roll around a dense city at bike lane speeds don't put any power down, or use their muscles at all, and they end up uncomfortable if they do this for too long

Ride a road bike on an open road at road bike speeds and as long as it fits ok the "core strength" takes care of itself because your muscles are engaged

Recently I got myself a cheap (new) single speed bike for commuting to work (pavement only). As an experiment I decided to do absolutely no maintenance on it and see what issues I get.
The chain came lubed from the factory and I've never lubed it myself. It still runs smooth like butter and looks new after around 800 kms.
Is regular chain lubing a conspiracy brought upon us by Big Chain (tm)?

>>2078282
>>2078292

You can think of the bars as separate from your position somewhat, e.g. measure your flat bar position and get the right stem to put the hoods in the same place. Provided the top tube length of your bike will allow it. Then you could really compare. A lot of NuHipster Drops like cowchippers are squished front to back so you're not as far forward as well. Tall mountain stems can look kind of goofy on a road bike but I rode that way for a long time and it was cool. Having the right size frame like other anons sed avoids really silly looking stem setups too...

I've mainly ridden flats for a number of years now but I think anybody who really likes riding needs to give drops a go, I've been craving them lately. Even in a high position they really let you grab on and punch it in a way that's almost primally satisfying

>>2078292
this >>2078303
just put the bars where you want them. mostly this is done with stem height and reach, then fine tune the tilt of the bars and where the hoods clamp on, but different bars have different reaches and bends, too.
of course, if you don't start from proper saddle height, nothing's going to be right.

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I have a Riverside 120 and I'm about to swap the pedals for some metal alloy examples. But there's a problem; rust.

Should I attempt to use aluminum foil and vinegar to remove the rust and apply a rust blocker spray paint coat before installing my new pedals, or is this an inconsequential issue?

>>2078305
To be more specific, there is an ample rust layer in the sockets that these new pedals will plug into.

>>2078282
I recently started using drop bars for the first time. Some thoughts as a newbie.
Drop bars are certainly mostly about comfort. As you alluded to, you see them in other long distance riding disciplines that aren't about racing such as touring and randonneuring. Drop bars have lots of hand positions you can change between. You can go full aero or fairly upright (though not as upright as swept back bars). But you can full upright if you can ride your bike hands-free. It's so easy to put down power with drop bars in a way I had not experienced before with other handlebars. Must be that very forward, aggressive position that is conducive to this. Another benefit I've found is that on drop bars, I'm putting less body weight on my butt and I hardly feel any butt discomfort after long rides, especially when I wear padded shorts.

One drawback of this I must mention is that my back-shoulder muscles get super tired after maybe an hour or two of riding. My body wants to go full upright and I struggle to keep my shoulders down while on the hoods. I'm guessing this is to do with that fact I'm not used to this position and I need to train these muscles up.

So far I can say, I don't care much for the drops position, sometimes I use it as an alternative position to relax my back, but it's not that great because I can't see where I'm going and I also hate it on downhills because I don't actually wanna go that fast. I'm currently investigating using my swept back bars with inner bar ends at the front to mimic the hoods position, while also giving me the ability to go way upright in the back.

Having said all that, you should give drop bars a go, see what all the fuzz is about and demystify them, they're not all about racing despite the common belief. and it will inform your other handlebar decisions.

>>2078307
well, one the one hand, any time you're installing threaded parts to each other, you need to be pinching a little grease into the threads so it gets down into the grooves to prevent any rusting and/or seizing there. OK, the threads in the crank are already rusted, but if you grease them and the pedal bolts, the rust won't transfer as easily (the pedals are alloy but the bolts are steel for strength) and it'll prevent seizing. so that pretty well handles the issues you'll encounter.
otoh, there's a big difference between surface rust that just makes the part look brown but otherwise normal, and flakey rust that is corroding the parts. surface rust I wouldn't care about. just mating the parts together with grease will scrape most of it off, anyway. but real corrosion is something I'd use a wire brush, sandpaper, mating and unmating the thread a couple times, etc and minimize as much as I could since it's a lot more aggressive.
generally, you've got the parts disassembled, it's easier to address rust now than down the road when it'll be worse and you've got to disassemble again to get at it anyway.

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>>2078308
not him but this is what he means by "drops" and "hoods" positions.
I fucked with my first drop bar fit on and off for damn near a year. getting it good enough is easy, dialing in the last ten percent is, like he said, something you tend to not notice until your >20 miles into a ride and fatigue sets in, but very small adjustments can make a huge difference here

>>2078309
rough steel wool is good for getting through the bolt holes and then spinning it around

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>>2078282
well for starters if you're riding flat bars in an upright position, you're simply doing it wrong.
if anything drop bars tend to be ridden more upright than correct mtb attack position and you only get this low for tactical reasons.

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>>2078305
>>2078307
Forgot my photos yesterday. The rust layer revealed here bothers me, seat pole and steering column also has it.

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>>2078340

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>>2078311
I only had brass wool but that was for soldering, as far as anything greasy goes I only got Teflon lubricant for my bike chain and WD40. The former seems effective considering my chain and cassette seems to have virtually zero rust unlike the threaded holes and bolt holes.

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The absolute state of the stock pedals from the Riverside of 8 years, never once disassembled.

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>>2078344
Oh wow, 10% white vinegar and aluminium foil actually gives nearly instantaneous results from scrubbing.

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>>2078282
i find it more comfortable and fitted these to my flat bar bike

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I have seen this type of damage rarely butany times and never quite understood it. The threads are exposed where the hook engages with the tire.
In this specific case I know the tire was never underinflated. It may still have taken heavy hits that could momentarily have pinched it. I suspect this particular tire was old stock when I bought it as cracks are showing on the tread that usually only show up on very old tires. Also IIRC Schwalbe had discontinued plain Marathons long ago already when I bought them.
Note how on the brake track it appears as if indeed the tire might have been pinched hard up to the point where it rubbed off onto the brake track.
What causes this? Is the rim sharp or has a burr and digs in? Is it pinching?

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>>2078358
*but many

>>2078342
threaded parts get GREASE, not OIL

>>2078345
yeah, that was just surface rust

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Just found out my fancy smancey ultegra cassette is made of plastic any point in using high end shimano groupsets nowadays

>>2078369
Wait until you find out your dork discs are also made of plastic

>>2078369
Pretty much all of super record is plastic.

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>>2078369
I would bet you're not a mechanical emgineer.
>use product, satisfied
>find out facts that do not align with your flawed preconception
>suddenly dissatisfied when nothing objectively changed
Also the idea of 'plastics' is simply moronic judging by the very broad range of radically differently materials that make up the category. It's about as moronic as the idea of 'metals' which usually make up the other side of the idiotic dichtonomy.
>Plastics bad metals good
I'd honestly prefer a PEEK cog over a bismuth cog, but both are far from optimal, let alone cost efficient.

>>2078369
Race parts sacrifice longevity for weight savings. I honestly don't know what you expected. You want something that lasts longer get 105 or tiagra.

>>2078369
what the fuck are you talking about

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>>2078391

>>2078392
that's carbon

>>2078393
Anyone with even 1 semi working eye can see that it's injection molded plastic

>>2078393
>>2078394
'carbon' or more precisely CFC is 'plastic'

>>2078393
It's nylon anon it says pa on the back

>>2078400
'carbon' is merely a reinforcement and neither injection molding nor nylon rules out carbon fiber reinforcement.
Why is it that ITT clueless people need to be full of themselves?

>>2078403
It's plastic dude.
Just because they sprinkle some carbon fibers in it's still 90% what they make toothbrushes from

>>2078405
I give up

>>2077676
I call white people niggers all the time when I road rage

>>2078410
+1
so do I
provided they commit trafic violations or drive motorvehicles

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is picrel the most ergonomic bar grip angle? what are these bars called and what is the ideal angle assuming flat bars are 0 degrees.

>>2078417
IMO they are called 'swept back bars' and the 'ideal angle' is the one that works best for you - individually.

>>2078417
the most ergonomic handlebar grip is the hoods on a drop bar.
I don't know how you expect us to be able to eyeball that bar angle any better than you. just look at specs for handlebars that look like those, , they give the angle and you can figure it out that way.
that bike and bar are an abomination anyway

>>2078403
>>2078407
I work in manufacturing and all the engineers I work with laugh whenever carbon-reinforced nylon gets marketed like it's somehow comparable to carbon fiber. Same goes for crushed carbon. Carbon gets its real advantage from continuous fibers laid in specific orientations to handle the loads they're designed for. Do you understand why people say carbon frames are fragile despite carbon being stronger than steel? It's because carbon is directionally strong, so engineers carefully orient the fibers to deal with different loads. Injection-molded carbon-filled nylon uses short fibers that mostly follow the flow of the plastic, but it isn't even playing the same game as a proper carbon laminate. It provides a little bit more stiffness. that's about it. So ironic seeing you call people clueless when you don't even understand what makes carbon fiber strong, or even why the word fiber is in the name.

>>2078447
can't wait to buy my first cobalt aluminum nanolaminate bike

>>2078447
>I work in manufacturing
Many do and it's very much different to engineering.
>Engineers laugh
I'm an engineer and I don't ever discount any solutions before evaluating requirements and said solutions. It's probably what makes a good engineer.
>comparable to carbon fiber
CF is part of CF reinforced nylon and on the other hand CF alone is structurally worthless.
>continuous fibers
It depends. You wont get isotropic behaviour and many parts that do benefit from chopped strand reinforcement are impossible to come up with a layup for. Also the whole thing does not work the way you seem to imagine it. The bond strength along a relatively short section of fiber exceeds the tensile strength of the fiber. This is also why CF composite repairs work so well.
>carbon is stronger than steel
Not a good way to put it. Carbon fiber, by mass, generally has a higher UTS than steel. A finished product like a frame, that is designed properly to meet the same requirements, will end up being equally strong.
>carbon is directionally strong
The fiber is in tension and worthless in compression. Woven fabric or continuous roving reinforced composites do behave like you describe. See above: Other CF composites, like those filled with chopped strand, do not which is often very much application specific and superior.
>proper carbon laminate
Injection molded parts do not try to mimic a layup, it's a false equivalency that you're trying to push.
>it provides a bit more stiffness
Ironically you can generally expect the change in stiffness to be less than the change in UTS when reinforcing a plastic matrix
>You call people clueless
You're making a fool of yourself. If you see a point in convincing strangers who don't even know your identity that you were knowledgeable about a subject, perhaps at least read a littke first you might then manage to fool at least someone totally uninformed.

>>2078458
>Injection molded parts do not try to mimic a layup
That's my fucking point you dumb ass. You call something carbon fiber that colloquial speak for carbon fiber laminate. No one except a dumb ass would refer to injection molded carbon reinforced nylon as carbon fiber.

>>2078461
>colloquial speak
so now you're saving your whole
>REEEEE IM CLUELESS
with poor semantics
CF is literally fibers of almost pure carbon

>>2078462
You're hopeless

so there is no point in getting high end shimano groups nowadays because the cassette from a decade ago uses CFRP as material for one spider?

>>2078463
>>2078447
"Hurr durr engineers worldwide incur the expense of fiber filling injection molded internal parts, invisible to the customer, only so that marketing could then later advertise a false equivalency to completely unrelated manufacturing techniques
>which never happens
my unspecific engineer buddys then chuckle
>everytime it happens
also its obvious I have no formal education nor practical experience with the matter
but everyone else is stupid and clueless"
ok bud

>>2078466
You're going off on your own tangents at this point bud

Well to try and kick off a completely different shit fight...how are /n/tists feeling about tubeless nowadays... I ride mostly gravel farm roads with some forest thrown in and I've never really been tempted to use anything other than tubes on my own bikes, sealant always just intuitively seemed like an irritating thing to have to deal with. But, I've been flirting around with the fancy gumwall tires that everybody's horned up for nowadays, and they all make it sound like tubeless is the only way to go for ride quality etc. Well, and pinch flats, but I'm getting those every few years maybe so idgaf about that

>>2078495
Tubeless is fine but it becomes a full-time job to maintain if you have more than one bike. If you're not getting punctures due to cactus, goatheads, or other tire hazards and not riding hard/gnarly enough to need inserts you might be better off with TPU tubes. I have them on two bikes now and I don't see myself going back to tubeless outside of niche scenarios. Sure af not going back to butyl...

>>2078495
Tubeless works well, but is also very messy and annoying to deal with. Stick with tubes if you don't have very frequent punctures.

>>2078525
I use tubeless and I don't have frequent punctures
Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV20WES5YBI

why do chinks on aliexpress make parts in every goddamn color except brown/bronze to match tanwall tires and leather saddles
not even cable housings

>>2078500
>>2078525
thanks kind of what I feared. I'll skip the sealant and maybe try fancy tubes

>>2078540
psst
squirt some sealant into a tube
best of both worlds

Are you still supposed to avoid metal valve tpu tubes. Twice I tried them I had them fail around the valve. I have one set with plastic valves and they're still holding. Also I prefer shrader over presta valves

>>2078555
the only valve failure I've had on tpu was the plastic valve cracking. still can't figure that one out, but it happened

>>2078556
why does everyone put up with all this shit only so they can move away from perfectly good butyl tubes?
pump back up constantly
deal with the huge mess
nightmarish roadside repairs
spectacular failures
I mean its perfectly fine for race day. But you keep extra wheelsets for that anyways, right anon? So why then do all this to your dailies?

>>2078557
because there are real advantages and mostly because very few bike owners do ANY of their own maintenance. talk to a normie with several kids who all have bikes and they won't even know what a barrel adjuster is or whether their brakes are mechanical or hydraulic.

>>2078556
See I read before that's the ones with metal valves the tube fails at the seam and that's what I experienced but not with plastic valves. The other issue for me is this is for a 26 so Icm pretty much relegated to AliExpress tubes since no larger manufacturers with any actual QC make 26 tpu tubes that will fit a 2.3" tire.
>>2078557
It's a noticeable difference with fat tires in my experience

>>2078555
I've had metal ones that were fine. Brand probably matters more

>>2077464
How wide of a tire could I fit on the stock rims of the cannondale quick 6?
I am looking at that model, since I want a bike with rim brakes, cuz they're easier for me to maintain myself with my limited bike maintenance knowledge. I want to ride on some miles of bad roads (potholes etc) and dirt roads. Would it be suitable?

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>>2078583
I got some 2.3s mounted on 23mm rims and it's been fine so far. Just don't corner like crazy.

>>2078583
>How wide of a tire could I fit on the stock rims of the cannondale quick 6?

I don't know. I wouldn't bet on fitting more than 40mm.

>I want to ride on some miles of bad roads (potholes etc) and dirt roads. Would it be suitable?

no.
don't get me wrong, I could ride that bike on that stuff and enjoy myself. you'll be absolutely miserable and in pain if you try it. you want a hardtail 29er with a short travel marzocchi fork.

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This is my current bike all together. Knobbly wheels, Shimano Claris, only things I've replaced were the seat (I got one with a slit) and pedals (SPD)

It's not really fit for going fast especially against high wind.
Should I buy a new bike for that purpose specifically or would just changing some parts like the handle-bars, wheels/tires, be enough?

My friends are pushing me towards buying a new bike but I'm kinda resistant to that desu

>>2078598
A new bike isn't gonna make you faster

>>2078598
This is a fast bike. Fast enough that if you can't catch up to your friends on it, you are not going to on the fastest bikes either. You can toy around with TPU tubes and full slicks, I guess, any other changes will come with marginal improvements at unreasonable prices.

>>2078598
those knobby tires are slowing you down the most. but otherwise, you can go as fast as you are able on something like that. there are lighter bikes, but I don't think that's what's holding you back.

>>2078602
>>2078608
>TPU tubes and full slicks
thanks anons that sounds pretty good
ik my buddies are kinda gearfags which is why I doubted them a bit desu

>>2078609
To reiterate- it is a fast bike even on the tires you have. Riddlers have decent rolling resistance as far as gravel tires go, there are many slicks that roll worse (usually cheap commuter slicks, or heavy anti-puncture stuff like Marathons). You can do better, but you can also do much, much worse. If you can't catch up to your peers on that bike- it's more likely a (You) problem than a bike problem.

>>2078598
buy cheap aero bars and annoy your lads lol

>>2078622
yeah, since you cited headwinds specifically, this is a good idea, and you don't have to replace the existing bars, aero bars are an addition that bolt on to them

>>2078590
>you want a hardtail 29er with a short travel marzocchi fork.
Lol no
50mm tires are more than fine for shit roads. A fucking Marzocchi air fork for riding on the street? You're retarded, that's overkill.

>>2078632
this was my thought, too.
I can do light gravel pretty decently fast on 32s, but there's some limitations and I couldn't take any big unexpected hits in my big gears' speed.
but I really doubt a sus fork is necessary to address those shortcomings.

>>2078632
>>2078635
I guess your idea of bad roads is different than mine... in Minnesota any pavement older than a year tends to look like a bad day in Gaza

>>2078647
which nobody could possibly ride without a hardtail 29er and a Marzochi fork.
except you, of course. you're so much better than everyone else.

>>2078648
no man, I ride 25c corsas and I just live in constant pain. you don't have to though

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>>2078585
Interesting, Anon. I'm gonna check rim and rim brake clearances in person

>>2078590
>>2078632
>>2078635

My thoughts were to get a hybrid bike with no suspension and knobby tires, based on some random experienced commuter's advice, for my ease of maintenance (so rim brakes too), to avoid bad budget suspensions (though I am sure things get better and cheaper over time), and to reduce excess bounce.

I asked about 'hybrid with no suspension' here a few years ago, and was told to steer away from potholes and towards good tires, like Vittoria Zaffiro Pro. I was told good tires can make a big difference for ride quality, and I heard rims can be 50% of bike cost, so I don't mind the price; 50mm duly noted

>>2078647
Roads I use can have stupid mini speed bumps created over time by the weather. I imagine you get much worse ice and more wear and tear on the roads

Thanks for the info Anons

>>2078651
The biggest difference for ride comfort for me apart from some 50mm tires is having a super compliant saddle. My hybrid I tear up disgusting montreal streets is mostly comfortable because my saddle flexes so much. I have my 90s gt with the 2.3 slicks that I posted and while it's comfortable it has a sele italia road saddle and that's not that great. I can probably link you the AliExpress saddle I got if the purchase link is still good.

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>>2078658
you have a 90's GT with 2.3" slicks?
The fools one thought I guess...
Looks a bit different now, matching grips and I gave it a chain that fits.

>>2078609
If you ride mostly on roads, but also on gravel a decent amount, probably best to go for fast rolling light knobbed tires like Tufo Thundero.
Slicks are great on roads, but slow you down a lot more on gravel than light knobs do on roads.

Are TPU tubes worth it over butyl for casual riding?
Seeing a lot of issues with TPU tubes leaking near the valve.

>>2078651
I would strongly suggest that you ignore and forget anything said by someone who describes zaffiros as good tires. vittoria makes really good tires and zaffiros are better than, say, gatorskins but they are slow slow slooooooooooow painfully draggy. for budget tires I prefer panaracer paselas.

>>2078667
the benefits are significant for 2"+ tires operating relatively low pressure. I'm not sure I'd put TPU in my road bikes just yet.

>>2078669
44mm tires around 2.5 bars, so I guess it would help. Might give it a shot and see how they hold up.

>>2078667
Probably not since you're giving up the ability to easily patch tubes. TPU tends to be tricky to patch.

>>2078671
the sure fire way to patch tpu is cut out a piece from another tpu tube and glue it on with contact cement.
this assumes you have an extra tube, but like anon said some fail at the valve, so that becomes your donor.
the sticker patches they give you only reliably work temporarily. they get you home but can still slow leak. only 50/50 chance they hold permanently, at least ime. best to carry a spare tube, patch when home as above, and make that your new spare.

>>2078622
Thirded you need to have a redemption arc and hopelessly drop those dicks on your grey ghost
>>2078583
I'm gonna be the dissenting voice and say a hybrid like that sounds fine for what you want. Until you get to deep sloshy dirt or gravel, or forest roads that are really rutted out and rocky, tires in the mid 30's+ aren't gonna make you sweat... you just follow the hard pack and keep an eye out. There is a learning curve but it's almost like people want to be able to just plow straight ahead without watching the road while on gravel which confuses me. But this is /n/, what you actually want is 90's mtb meme, go to /bbg/ and post local ads and they'll straighten you out; spend $100 on a good bike and use the leftover for consumables, you can get fuck huge tires for cheap if you want and never worry about shit

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>>2078658
> super compliant saddle
That sounds helpful, without resorting to a suspension seatpost
> I can probably link you the AliExpress saddle I got if the purchase link is still good.
I am curious to see it

>>2078668
> I would strongly suggest that you ignore and forget anything said by someone who describes zaffiros as good tires
They said it's their 'sweet spot for commuting'.. I'll look at these, thanks Anon

>>2078686
> hybrid like that sounds fine for what you want
My bike goal is 'handle bad roads and dirt roads'; picrel but sometimes covering more of that road, and dirt roads with some potholes, ruts and occasional washboard
>it's almost like people want to be able to just plow straight ahead without watching the road while on gravel which confuses me
When I drive on a dirt road in my humble crossover, I am always watching closely for crazy changes in the road ahead, in order to avoid suspension abuse. It makes sense that you'd have to do that on a bike too. I have had opportunities to drive broncos with bilsteins and fox shocks on some dirt roads and poor quality roads, and the ride is easy and comfortable but that level of suspension is not mandatory for me
> 90's mtb meme
I was considering this, bikefarmer mentions it. I wonder about parts availability for the future. My coworker told me he can't find parts for his '04 Trek, and bikefarmer's solution to 90's mtb parts is charities and parts bikes (he mentions in link below). I have space for just 1 bike, but I just realized I could sell or donate the frame of the parts bike right away. My question about parts availability convinced me to stick to new bikes. But it wasn't hard for me to look up 90's mtb examples with rim brakes and big tire clearance. Plus in the vid, it's mentioned that newer bike parts can be less interchangeable, which sounds lame
https://www.youtube.com/8W2xblZlmwA?t=910

>>2078706
>'sweet spot for commuting'

honeyed euphemism for "I commute and my bike isn't parked somewhere sane, there's a reasonable chance that it gets stolen on any given day and so it would be crazy to get real tires"

like that

>>2078706
>I am curious to see it
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mKlnAcP
It surprisingly comfortable

>>2078706
I see where you're coming from with the parts but in all humbleness and sincerity I think you have it backwards. The 80's-90's is kind of the golden era of bike cross-standardization, and the relevant parts will be around until the nukes fall. It's very different from cars where you need to worry about finding things for just the right configuration; it's kind of like how common air cool VW parts still are, except imagine almost every car sold during that whole time was a bug. You might not be able to get just the right grub screw for your brake arm or whatever, but you can just get a whole new set of brakes for trivial cost; even if you don't have a bike co-op nearby companies like dia-compe are still making brand new stuff that works for amounts like $30. Things do begin to get a little more exotic and proprietary going into the late 90's-early 2000's, heading towards the kind of proprietary world we have today; there are still many standards but many bike companies would love to get to where it's more like cars with model years and shit

Anyway sperg rant, but you aren't going to have to worry about parts availability in your lifetime. Maybe your coworker has some goofy 2000's suspension parts he can't service now but he sounds kind of out of the loop desu.

>>2078745
This idea of going through 10 of the same component which is not a wear part and insisting that you use this one very bike life long is ridiculous anyways.
I mean c'mon knee gga who are they kidding?
Those components are still being produced.
Headsets, BBs: In production.
Hubs, their cups, cones, axles and spokes: In production. Alternatively just respace.
Freehubs: In production.
Brake -levers, -cantilevers, shifters, RD, FD, cables and outers: In production.
Pedals, cranks, stems, bars, grips, seatposts: In production.
All wear parts, cogs, chainwheels, chains, brake shoes, tiresy tubes... everything is still being made and sold.
Rims: Not as much selection anymore but still being made. But also amazing new carbon fiber 26" rims and wider choices than ever before if you want.
Even if this was to change: The market has always been over saturated and probably even more so in the 90s. Every other garage has had a bike from the period stashed away in a corner for the last 10 years. They come up for sale all the time. So even in the unlikely event that you need a component but it and no modern replacement aren't being produced you can still easily get a parts bike for peanuts if you really deem thw 90s bike economically viable.

>>2078741
135mm is extremely narrow, even for a road saddle. but otherwise it looks really nice. I was considering getting it until I saw the width. I'm currently on 142 and would prefer a little wider but it's ok

>>2078745
I had this exact thought but couldn't be fucked to type it all out.
nice one, anon

>>2078750
you, too, anon

>>2078751
I honestly originally bought it for the looks. I personally find narrower saddles fit me better.

>>2078706
Oh one more thing. 90's anon here. If you do go older I would suggest setting some money aside and going to V-brakes if it doesn't have them. Won't be expensive. Cantis are maybe unfairly maligned but they are fussy as fuck for a beginner to work on. V's will still be powerful as fuck with a mediocre setup

And just to prove I'm not just retrofagging for its own sake, if you do get a new bike I'd probably go for the discs, they're not hard to work on and if you're gonna spend that money you might as well. I have heard to avoid ones that use proprietary fluid over e.g. mineral oil and that makes sense to me.

>>2078750
I had bike oneitis for a long time, I like the simplicity but at some point I realized I love working on shit and learning and if a tdf class frame pops up for $50 for example am I supposed to just ignore that?

>>2078759
>oneitis
I have literally advocated against this.
I always, right from the start, had N+1 itis. It is part of the reason why I believe
>insisting that you use this one very bike life long [is unrealistic]
especially when it comes to a 90s MTB or such.
Sure if you had a real nice cinelli and only ever rode to the gelateria and back...
But if you do anything meaningful on a bicycle you can not reasonably do it on a valuable antique. This leads you to ownership of at least one mediocre bike and the circle closes: I dont see the point of oneitis, especially if it's just mediocre. But also not if it's really nice and you actually want to ride bikes.
Also I should consider selling a few valuable bikes...

>>2078706
>. I wonder about parts availability for the future. My coworker told me he can't find parts for his '04 Trek,
What parts do people have trouble sourcing I don't understand. The only thing I can think of is sourcing 3x chainrings

>>2078767
this is usually bullshit or something like a propertiary seatpost from a shitty manufacturer who doesnt care about spares

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sup /n/
the universal bike distribution system got me.
rescued some abandoned hipster fixie project from a dumpster, what do you think?
sanded old 70's (??) steel frame with origin wheels, suntour crank and some fancy teal chain idk what brand to go with the wheels. lbs guy said something about a bmx gearset, mbt bars on road bike head, commuter tires, back one relatively new, viscount seat. idk shit about bikes but someone put money into this and just threw it away because the rear wheel had a burr in it that kept popping tubes.

put a freewheel on it now im fast as FUCK. its pretty light and fun to ride even as out of shape as I am so im glad the machine god gave me another one of its many metal children to cherish.

thank you for reading my blog

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>>2078782
idk when bikes went from being built like this to being done up like rollcages but this thing is from well before then

>>2078782
>what do you think
I think it is very sad to see 10spds converted to 1spd. It is equally sad to see original paint jobs removed only to then neglect painting it properly. I think it is sad to see THOSE rims and grips on this bicycle. I think flip flop hubs are generally ugly and embarrassing, the cranks and pedals neither match each other nor the 'build' if I may call it that.
If you want an antique get an antique, fixed gear, skip tooth and all that.
If you want a track bike get a track bike.
This will never be any of those and always remain a sad sight and probably a formerly good bike ruined for good as no one will paint it and source and fit period correct parts.

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>>2078784
idk I think its hilarious its a stereotypical cali fag meme bike literally pulled from a trash can where it probably belonged, and i can give it a use beyond its previous owner's instagram at least, but i agree, theres no way i can restore it to its original beauty, the candy paint and pinstripes it probably had, its forever a shitbike which is fine by me. fortunately they left all the cable routing hardware intact for the original shifters and brakes. getting a rear brake tomorrow probably. gonna have fun with this until something unrepairable breaks.

I put the orange grips on btw, the ones on there were kinda melting and they remind me of a certain race car livery combined with the blue.

>>2078769
Yeah I don't understand the parts availability problem. Kool stop still make rim brake pads. You got new v-brakes or cantis from dia, tektro. You can buy sweet levers from IRD if you want something fancy. Thomson and origin8 have you covered for any seatpost size. Wheelsets can be had second hand. Really the only problem I have is finding 94bcd 5 bolt 3x chainrings.

>>2078782
those lugs are pretty groovy

>>2078796
>Kool stop still make rim brake pads.
While we're on the same. page here I must say: Everyone and their mom are still making and selling rim brake pads. Same goes for wheelsets. Countless suppliers, no need to buy someones dodgy wheels.
In fact I can not think of a single bicycle part that is effectively a monopoly and only offered by a single source.

>>2078785
this is more printable than you think, I've seen much more derelict bikes get restored

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>>2078797
ain't they?
doing some research with the clanker gf: the remnants of pastel orange paint, simplex seat bolt, ava head, and the flowery lugs seem to point to a late '60s early '70s Gitane like this one. Can't be too hard to restore to its original color.
maybe the orange grips weren't such a bad choice after all, look at the blue on this one!

>>2078804
I mean kool stop Salmons are still the best rim brake pads you can get as far as I know. They wear faster bu preserve your rims better and brake better.

>>2078806
>ava head
get rid of it asap. it's called a stem, btw, not a head.
https://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com/2017/10/suicide-components-death-by-bicycle.html?m=1

>>2078806
Honestly it could be from so many old brands and to track down what is is exactly will be really hard. I wouldn't worry too much about getting it back to exactly how it was. You have the beautiful opportunity to do this thing up yourself as you like it. You can paint your lugs a different color from the rest of your tubing, you can do accent colour contours around the lugs to make their shape pop, do your own pinstripes. I think it's one thing to preserve and restore a colorway if you have a good base to work with. But where you're at with this, I would just go full custom. ETOE on youtube does some decent videos with rattlecans where he does a beautiful custom paint job for a bike, you could definitely pick up a few things from him by watching his videos.

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>>2078708
>honeyed euphemism
It doesn't sound good. Gotta watch out for losing those tires to people like in picrel

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>>2078745
>I think you have it backwards
>>2078750
>The market has always been over saturated and probably even more so in the 90s.
That's a relief. It also makes these 90's mtbs sound like they're potentially the best answer to my search

>>2078745
>Maybe your coworker has some goofy 2000's suspension parts he can't service now but he sounds kind of out of the loop desu.
>>2078767
>What parts do people have trouble sourcing I don't understand. The only thing I can think of is sourcing 3x chainrings
I talked to him again yesterday, and it sounded like he just couldn't get some specific version of a part he liked, can't recall exactly but I believe brake levers or a mount for those or something else mounting on the handlebars

>>2078741
>It surprisingly comfortable
Thanks Anon. I'll have to check my measurement and consider it

>>2078759
>V's will still be powerful as fuck with a mediocre setup
That sounds very helpful. I will definitely see about doing that if I go with the older bikes
>if you do get a new bike I'd probably go for the discs
I'm interested in maximizing the ease of maintenance even further than cable discs, and I think I like a whole bunch of other aspects of rim brakes, but new rim brake bikes are almost nonexistent
>I have heard to avoid ones that use proprietary fluid over e.g. mineral oil and that makes sense to me.
By proprietary you mean DOT? It looks like DOT handles moisture more safely in the case of inadequate maintenance, and handles temperature extremes better, but it is of course much more poisonous

>>2078835
yeah, seconding this

>>2078838
yeah, "90s mtb on slicks" was a big /n/ meme for a while. he was even one of our 4chan cup players, and possibly still is.
it's hard to beat the combination of availability, utility, price, and quality of that particular era of bike. modern MTB shits on them for real, hard core off road riding, especially downhill. but they still do trail riding fine, especially casual trails at casual paces, and are perfectly fine for getting around on roads, on slicks especially

>>2078839
DOT is cool, it's cheap everywhere. I've just heard that some companies insist upon their own formula, not sure if there's really something there or just marketing bs though. But if it's true that they need something exotic for some reason it'd be best to avoid ofc.

V's are probably your answer for brakes, yeah. The most powerful and dependable rim brake as a broad category and dead common/cheap.

Another nice thing about buying something older is you can get something that was really good back in the day if you're willing to geek out a bit. So much out there, and people don't know about bikes; lots of boomers basically with a porsche in their garage they rode twice on an RV trip before realizing they're fatasses. Do some googling maybe and try to hold out for one with at least butted tubes (frame material.) Another good way is to eyeball the rear derailleur since better parts generally means = better bike. By the 90's it was shimano everywhere so if you get to know shimano groups you're set. Deore or XT or XTR = nice bike. Suntour parts are tougher to judge by since they were cheaper and ended up on some bad bikes (and really good bikes.)

>>2078838
oh and If you're willing to post local craigslist man we'll give you suggestions.

>>2078842
To add to this I would say do research on frame tubing. If you get lucky you could find some really nice steel bikes that are relatively lightweight and ride well (compliant). I have a GT Karakoram from 1994 and it's surprisingly light for an XL bike coming in at 27lbs, and this is with heavy tires and a heavy motorcycle handlebar. Going to switch out the tires to some fast and light Conti racekings and got a lightweight steel handlebar so maybe I could get her down to 25lbs. Bot big into the weight weenie thing but it was 27lbs without me even trying so I'm curious to see what I could get a steel bike down to with a little effort.

>>2078841
>but they still do trail riding fine, especially casual trails at casual paces, and are perfectly fine for getting around on roads, on slicks especially
That sounds like a great fit for my use case

>>2078842
>Do some googling maybe and try to hold out for one with at least butted tubes (frame material.)
I just learned about that; I already decided to go for double walled rims

>>2078844
>oh and If you're willing to post local craigslist man we'll give you suggestions.
I am in the Metro Detroit area, which means Ann Arbor is nearby, so there's got to be some good options out there

>>2078845
>If you get lucky you could find some really nice steel bikes that are relatively lightweight and ride well (compliant)
That was another one of my criteria, though I quickly relaxed that for new bikes
>I have a GT Karakoram from 1994 and it's surprisingly light for an XL bike coming in at 27lbs
The surly preamble is said to be about 27 lbs, though it is disc, and I read that the groupset might not be great. I also really like the fact it has external cable routing. I don't want to be 'running ethernet cables between bedroom walls', and if I just put new brake cables on the exterior of a new bike, maybe it affects cable flex and therefore force transmission

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>>2078833
yeah, i was concerned about that at first but it seems as though the previous owner was as well and more or less rounded off the top nut removing and reinstalling the thing (or overtightening it)

>It's important to note that not all models of AVA stems were prone to failure

all of the ones i saw online are a different model of stem where the ava logo is on the side, i have one where the logo is on the bar clamp and these seem to be an earlier, less failure-prone model. currently it's not loose or rattly and i rode extensively yesterday, but i don't have an appropriate extractor to remove the nut. if it ain't broken already it's probably fine. i don't want to mess with it without a replacement part.

>You can paint your lugs a different color from the rest of your tubing, you can do accent colour contours around the lugs to make their shape pop, do your own pinstripes. I think it's one thing to preserve and restore a colorway if you have a good base to work with. But where you're at with this, I would just go full custom.
i'm thinking polished and clearcoated lugs with painted tubes. i might stick with the sky blue theme its got going already but turn it into an autistic obscure vidya reference

>>2078846
honestly not seeing anything in the reasonable price range that gets me all that excited but in a big midwest metro like that you should be able to find something sooner or later no sweat. Also consider just going into a bike co-op, there has to be at least one around. They usually put bikes together to sell to stay in business and while they can be overpriced, it might still be a better move all around than buying something brand new retail.
Some candidates though...
view/d/westland-vintage-schwinn-criss-cross/rkDq7bCpRbjDL3jmPxCGFa - Not a higher quality bike per se but people like these schwinn "cross" models; they can fit a big tire.
view/d/royal-oak-cannondale-f500-mountain-bike/jb96sULMtBL53qQzHtczE2 - The CD head shok models are sort of cult classic, I'd be leary of suspension in general but I know these are decently light and pretty fun
view/d/oxford-gary-fisher-hoo-koo-koo-mountain/6No1kZfgBN6pbKZWFcSwxq - I'd def consider this one if he came down a lot in the price. The ad is pretty old. But $300 is just too much. These three are all pretty small frames btw, so good for a short king I guess.

oh and some more gems just for fun.
craigslist.org/view/d/howell-ross-mt-washington-hi-tech-10/5sYRMC5E1G7E4C7BLcdueT
profoundly baffling bike. Seems like this mix of parts is actually how they came from the factory

view/d/howell-schwinn-heavy-duti-bike/henrcVeh8M4nvvBuvxcKnu
same guy selling a heavy duti. These are somehwat based, I guess as a dark horse option bro could just go buy this and become a thigh god. Never have to service your brakes at all and the potholes will actually run away from you.

>>2078846
>also really like the fact it has external cable routing. I don't want to be 'running ethernet cables between bedroom walls'
Fun thing about the Karakoram. The cable routing is semi internal in the top tube. It's hidden in what GT called the groove tube. Really great for when you pick up your bike to bring it upstairs and great for trails because a you don't snag your cables when picking it up and you can't snap your cables by hitting your bb shell on a rock or log.

>>2078857
>i'm thinking polished and clearcoated lugs
Be aware that clearcoat doesn't seal as well as paint and you could still experience rust under the clearcoat.

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I have a frameset with stripped paint and three rattlecans with fluorescent green, signal blue and clearcoat
Also a wheelset with blue spokes, and mostly shiny chrome hardware
What pattern shoud I go for? I was thinking just fade from green to blue, but do your worst with suggestions

>>2078869
>do your worst with suggestions

argyle, herringbone, tartan, houndstooth
good luck

>>2078869
Get a third color and do some colorblocking. Im so bored of fade colorways, all bikes have them now. Or keep 2 colors and have the transition be with stripes that get thinner. Have the fron half green and then a break in the green. Thick green stripe. Break. Thinner. Breaker. And so on to your taste. Would be a cooler transition than just fade.

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Something like this but obviously not as small. Maybe like 5 stripes.

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Better example

>>2078869
asymmetrical seatstays and chainstays, one side blue, one side green

>>2078877
I've seen this on really old track racers. I guess so the spectators would see one color and then when the rider turned to the other side, the whole bike was a different color

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help me out /n/groes
i need a rack/cargo solution for picrel that:
>can hold 20-30kg of cargo
>doesn't involve large ugly boxes/baskets
>cargo is mostly groceries, 2x 7L-bottles of water

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>>2078907(me)
2 of picrel in addition to grocery bags
currently i just hang plastic grocery bags on the handlebars

>>2078907
literally impossible, racks are rated for like half of that at most. even the aeroe spider loads 16kg

>>2078909
it doesn't have to carry all load in the rear
it can be a something like a 15kg (minimum) rear rack and a 5kg front rack

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>>2078907
you may not like by this is what peak perfomance looks like

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>>2078908
you could decant the water into smaller containers i guess
like 6 1L bottles

>>2078907
>Carrying 30kg
>On a front suspension xc mtb
Lol.