Alright guys, it's time we settled this debate once and for allDo rollercoasters count as transportation? From an engineering perspective they're basically just trains that go on unorthodox tracks so I personally say yes, but please let us know your opinions in the comment section down below, and don't forget to like comment subscribe and hit the bell icon for more threads like this one
>>2078276>end up where you startedNo, it's a ride. Transportation goes from A to B.I look forward to the next post somewhere halfway in 2027
wow only 1,500-2,250 miles put on a train per year? Would have guessed it was ten times that. Simulating (hyper real extreme G) Transportation is not Transportation. Simulated Walking is not Walking. Maintenance don't have maintenance trains to move motors to do work with the assistance of the track's strength.These are Art installations are Loosh Loops like a Gehry or a Koons or those new Sports Stadiums. The concrete pilings regularizing the terrain are an exposition for the engineering work. Older down and back coasters built by hand and guesswork not CAD are more directly attuned to experiencing the bucolic environment (transportation metaphor, not transportion). The precision translation of thing in itself as the lead engineer-artist intended the product to be could be sufficiently represented by a lower cost G force simulator installation at a museum.
>>2078276it's not transportation but it's a form of train and most of this board is trainfags so where else would you discuss them?
>>2078316stay strong trains is hard job
Walt Disney was a train autist so logically he also liked roller coasters. Disneyland basically just started off as a massive testbed for his train designs before evolving into a fullblown theme park
the same way cctv is tv
>>2078294>No, it's a ride. Transportation goes from A to B.Some roller coasters feature exit platforms in a different spot from the entrance gate, so technically they do go from A to B even if they're only like 20ft from eachother
your body will end up in the same spot, but it's a transportation for your soul.
>>2078332Drugs will tend to do this
Roller coasters are literally trains!There is no closed loop exemption in the rules!
>>2078276Is track cycling tra/n/sportation?
>>2078366>Military vehicles should be posted on the weapons boardEven if that includes military bicycles?
>>2078366Many full sized trains run on loops. I agree that roller coasters deserve a seat of honor at this table. Especially a table so crowded with shabby individuals of ill repute such as bicyclists, urban planners*, and drunkards unable to hold a driving license.*In more plain, precise, and proper terms: communists.
Yes, but coasters fall on a spectrum. Many so called "alpine coasters" like picrel are unambiguously transportation. Gravity propelled, rider controlled cars quickly descend the mountain in a way that emphasizes the thrill of acceleration (banked turns), while blending into the natural environment.>b- b- but there's a system that brings empty cars back to the top of the mountain!So? Why would completing the circuit make it any less "transportation? A ski lift is a complete circuit and is even empty half of the time. Is that not transportation?>b- but they're having fun!What if they weren't? What if the guy who works at the top takes it down at the end of the day because it's faster, and not for enjoyment? Certainly transportation for him.Now get rid of the mountain and make it a lift hill. Make the train pause at the top so you can appreciate the height you've gained. Make the train descend in a fun way. When did it stop being transportation?
>>2078276Lucky Lake in RCT 2 has a prebuilt mine train coaster that circles the lake and has multiple stations. So it exists in fiction at least. I think roller coasters in theory could be transit if someone wanted to build one that way.
>>2078299>These are Art installations are Loosh Loops like a GehryNothing Gehry did should be considered art, I cheered when that fucker kicked it
>>2078509His works look really cool and were a showcase about what kind of architecture was possible. The problem with postmoderism is simply that the novelty quickly wore off and people stopped feeling whimsy for these surrealist pieces
>>2078511The problem is every one of his buildings looks like it was inspired by the ground zero wreckage
>>2078512They look out of an M.C. Escher painting. You just lack whimsy
>>2078515That painting has a lot of interesting textural variance and draws your eyes to a lot of different details and perhaps most importantly doesn't look half demolished. I bet you like your food at restaurants to be chewed by the waiter first,
>>2078511>>2078515It's hideous. People appreciated beauty and form for thousands of years. Now we're told to praise primitive trash that is more akin to the musings of a child. I will give your "art" all the lauds it deserves; none.
>>2078521If anyone involved deserves any praise, it's the structural engineers who had to figure out a way to make those things compatible with physics and Earth gravity.
>>2078527>All praise to practioners of *the* science.You disgust me.
>>2078521Childish musing would be making a building that looks like a shitty knockoff of Greek architecture. Being able to create an external literal representation of an internal abstract representation of a 3D object takes far more skill than making another building that's little more than a mashup of someone else's ideas from 1000+ years ago, so yes, the "primitive trash" deserves praise. Btw Hitler was rejected by art school for a reason and his desperate attempts to project sophistication by praising tired old visual grammars revealed an inability to conceptualize beauty beyond "stuff I'm habituated to looking at", you are literally idolizing an aesthetic system that was invented as a narcissist's coping strategy for being rejected by actual artists.
>>2078535>His mind goes straight to Hitler when told his grotesque "art" is, in fact, grotesque.The only response you truly deserve to your argument is a sword through the belly.
>>2078536>parrots unironic natsoc "art critique" opinion with classic natsoc gripes about modern degenerate art forms being inferior to neoclassical slop>gets mad over itI mean the alternative is you're impressively ignorant about the history of western art, so what is it, did you come up with that because you're as dumb as an art school reject with delusions of grandeur or was it that you're an actual unironic nazi? Either way you come off as a jackass, sorry for your loss better luck next time
>>2078538>Godwin's Law because someone doesn't like my crumpled napkin building
This freestanding airtime hill had to have brakes incorporated after installation, going uphill.The trains do not merely just roll over the cliff they are also accelerated downhill to hit the highest top speed in the world, for tallest/fastest claims..But Intamin couldn't actually use that speed for even the one feature and had to slow the trains down. The limits of G and speed are fully explored, there is no reason to pour more millions into a longer track completed faster than a shorter track at regular speeds. Transportation categorically does not share this double bind of a need for speed meeting too short a trip to be meaningful for guests to queue for. Roller Coasters are now finished and entirely derivative Art, until the roller ball bearing itself is obsoleted by gravitics.
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>>2078549Counterargument: rollercoasters are cable cars. Your standards seem to only involve trains that run under their own power but that would actually exclude a lot of "trains" that are used for legitimate transport purposes as well
