How retarded would it be to buy one of these as a first purchase? I will get a tailwheel cert before I do. The Champ has always been a favorite of mine.
>>29038563Planes and trains are based, so post away my friend. Fuck /n/.
>>2078719This. Personal boats, personal planes, and trains are acceptable enough here on occasion.
>>2078718Do you have a suitable airstrip at your house? If not, I hope you are an eight figures type of nigga.I view light GA planes in a strange light. They are a bit underpowered to take more than 2 very far or very fast. But they also don't have the flying go-kart, 23 mph stall, open cockpit ultralight feel. I don't know. If I were to own a plane it would either be an ultralight or a 182 at the absolute minimum.Picrel, had to stunk on these hoes with the spread at Oshkosh(we followed the magenta line the entire way)
>>2078721No airstrip at home, but I live about five minutes of driving from one (the approach is over my house for one of the runways and aircraft routinely pass over about 700 ft). I don't need to fly anyone more than myself (5' 6" and 150lbs) and likely will not fly more than 100 miles from base (this being where another large airshow is held every April).I might as well ask about 182s, they are really at the top end of my range for median valued 1970s models or a well kept square tail. Would it be better to spend $175-200k on one versus $35k or less on a Champ with comparable time?What about middle of the road options like Stinson Voyagers, 170s/172s/175s, Cherokees or TB-9s/TB-10s?
>>2078718Get the bush cub thing that can take off in like 50 feet.
>>2078723I could do its predecessor (Sport Cub), but not the ones after it (Carbon Cub or XCub). Sport Cubs run $130k and up. Sport Cub can do it in 400', but most GA aircraft do not need a ton of runway. The one I posted needs about 650 ft.Now this is under optimal operating conditions, so runs can be longer or shorter based on a variety of factors (wind, temperature, humidity, etc.). So even a 50' claim comes with a caveat.
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>>2078721I agree, champs etc. are deeply based but I think they are just victims of today's world. In my head they probably made a lot more logistical/financial sense back in their heyday, but having to spend 202x real airplane money to operate one seems very frivolous
>>2078718I am thinking of buying a vintage fabric tailwheel as my first plane too, currently training exclusively in tailwheel planes like this, first a cub and nowna citabria. A couple things to consider though, first check AOPA for a local flying club that has one already. This is a much cheaper route than owning the plane by yourself as you split hangar and maintenance costs with other people. I will be going with this route for awhile before buying my own as there is a cheap club local to me with a piper cub. Secondly, if you are dead set on being an operator owner, make sure you secure a hangar spot before buying the plane. Fabric planes really need to be stored in a hangar. There is one guy at my local airfield who bought a fabric plane that has been sitting in a tiedown spot for lole 3 months now because he doesn't know anyone and couldn't find a hangar spot.
>>2078720>personal trainsimagine
>>2078919>tfw you will never own a real train
>>2078718Absolute dream to have a small aircraft, but I know I'd do something stupid and die.
as long as you fly it you really cant die. the worst-case in a controlled crash is you drown. though some of these types of planes have suicide header tanks in some obscenely scary spot like between your legs so that actually scares me slightly....but you flare these thing into trees with a headwind and your GS is legitimately like 40mph.I love 115hp Citabrias. I hate anything more than that in a Citabria, and don't even get me started on GCBC's. If you need flaps in a plane like this you need to contemplate wtf you are doing.That said the Champs are a little anemic and you actually do have to worry a little bit. You can take an O-235 citabria pretty far over gross into pretty high DA's and not really worry, but Champs will bite you and you'll go off the end of the runway.anyways go build a good 500 hours tailwheel, get an insurance checkout on a Stearman then pick one of those up. Fly that for a while until you're ready for an R-985. Best flying machine ever devised by man...except for the Grumman AgCat.
>>2079020A guy I know has one of the old Red Baron Pizza team Super Stearmans that he has fitted for wing walking (and another guy I know has a Waco UPF-7). I am more of a Tiger Moth or Stampe SV4 guy, though.The school I have picked out does a Taylorcraft BC-12 and a Cessna 170 for training. The goal is 50 hours before a Champ, then build more time for a Tiger Moth, Stampe, Stearman or Jungmann/Jungmeister (like the 500 hours you said). Biplanes are the dream I have in mind. I own a bunch of RC aircraft and my favorites are a Tiger Moth, a Staerman and a Waco YMF-5, followed by a Stinson Reliant.>>2079008Cheaper and easier than you think under Part 103. The TL;DR is that if you can drive, you can fly an ultralight so long as you stay away from cities and other controlled airspace, where you may pose a risk to others. There is more to it, but you get the gist. Ultralights may cost as little as $5k, if you know where to look.
>>2079125>Taylorcraft BC-12getting in to a school taylorcraft is just a really bad idea
>>2079130The competing schools only use a Cessna 140 and a Luscombe and one more out of my budget uses AT-6s. Should I ask for the 170 at the school, or go with one of the other schools? I figured the Luscombe was maybe worst since it is the least forgiving.Nearest Citabria is 100 miles drive for instruction in dense urban airspace (city with 4-5 airports with jet traffic and another half dozen helipads inner city doing tours).What is so bad about the Taylorcraft anyway? Weak brakes?
>not building your own
>>2079153>What is so bad about the Taylorcraft anyway?the most recently built one was built in 19511951...
>>2079678I would be more concerned about maintenance logs and TTAF>>2079676Peter is a genius... I am not, I am more like this Chinaman.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIr-2dVZLQs
>>2079721>boomer logsmhm
