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I dream of getting my hands on one of these.

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Brompton, I don't even own one but I want to, I just think they're neat

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>>2079161
sicker than ill. I'd be happy just to find a decent cimarron

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>>2079206
Don't let your memes be dreams.

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>>2079118
>Priority 600
>Using Continental Urban Contact tires
Hills? So what.

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>>2079220
```health invesments'''

>>2079220
why do you need 2 bromptons?

>>2079221
>pinion
>belt
real talk, are the efficiency losses something I'll notice, or is it like riding in normal clothes vs spandex: the losses are measurable, but you don't actually notice in the saddle

>>2079227
maybe the other one is for their wife or husband or other significant other

>>2079227
I don't need any bromptons.
They're cool bikes you can take on the train for free. I wanted one and i bought one.
When the G-line was released i thought it's also a cool bike.

>>2079228
I'm leaning mostly towards the side of "regular clothing vs lycra spandex". There is a noticeable difference between chains vs carbon belt, but not by a whole lot. I have both; chain for the dry season, belt for the wet season.
If you're riding primarily just to commute around places, then it's not really a factor whilst on the saddle, pretty much a "ehh, who cares."

>>2079218
What is it about this bike that does it for you

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>itt bikes we don't own but wish we did
I just want a cargo bike

My hypothetical dream bike is one with fat tires, belt drive, wide handlebars, and internal gear hub. The ultimate long distance utility bike

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>>2079270
the ultimate long distance utility bike is a front-drive recumbent and that is not up for debate

>>2079270
>wide handlebars
for all the long distance utility riding you'll be doing on mountain trails?

>>2079274
For long distance, comfort is a must

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I'm quite fond of them Paratroopers, but I still wonder why they even bother selling complete bikes. They charge way too much for a cool but woefully outdated frames with literal BSO-tier components. I hope they get Brompton'd, last few years had an explosion of alternative trifolds that were often superior to the originals so the originals were forced to improve, we need the same with the 'Troopers. Gimme a 700c gravel Trooper with full GRX, thru axles and carbon top tube.

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>>2079268
They were just very thoughtfully made. Funky, thin tube set with very ovalized main tubes. I believe they were only sold as frames as well. Obviously there are nicer more high-strung early mtb's to lust after but these are roughly as nice as it gets for mass-market without getting into more exotic frames. I also like the more humble/sleeper like things, it's just comfy but also I think if I had a more precious yeti, moots etc. I wouldn't be able to enjoy it the same way

>>2079225
I will say that looks very fun, the closest I ever got was an ancient dahon with a 3 speed boat anchor with wobbly hinges, and even that was enough to make me think "ok I can kind of see where the moulton thing is coming from"

>>2079335

err meant for -> >>2079238

>>2079336
>>2079268 (Me)
it's cool I was curious to know too

>>2079320
Fuck I want one of these now god damn it fuck you

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>>2079335
That's pretty cool. I'm a bit more of a big picture guy. I like weird frames hence the Valkyrie, it combines combines 2 of my other weird frames I like, elevated chainstays and what ever the hell the Bianchi Theridion is. I like GTs for that same reason but they're so trendy now that I feel a bit like a normie for liking them but I won't stop liking something because other people like it. I also have a specialized crossroads that has curved tubes. It looks really sweet imo. I want to learn more about bikes and maybe find a normal looking bike with finer details like what you're talking about. Something that really stands out to you but if you're not a knower you just wouldn't get it. But maybe that's not for me. I like things that stand out to everyone.
Pic related is my crossroads.

>>2079367
I always liked the crossroads too.
Are you aware of Black Sheep Bikes? you might get a kick out of 'em

>>2079369
Thanks for sharing. That is absolutely my jam

If uncbrakes i no like. Looks old. Old bad. Simple as.

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>>2079367
It is a good time to be a bike knower because the old stuff is going cheap for whatever reason. Everybody says there was a vintage bubble over covid, idk. But the flipside of nobody knowing anything is that when the exact bike you're looking for finally pops up, it'll be an I Know What I Have boomer (he doesn't) who won't budge from $900
Weird is good though, I found one of these frames on the side of the road in a junk pile and sold it really cheap to a guy on CL cause it was a bit big and I didn't need it clogging up my apartment. I do wish I had it now but he was jazzed which is cool.

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>>2079398
Oh yeah that's a rare find. I got lucky with one of my GTs. Paid $50 for this thing, was sold by a kid for who it was WAAAY too big. It didn't come with the cranks and the brakes I have on there now but it was still a pretty sweet find. And it comes in at 27lbs which is very cool for an XL steel frame.

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Here's another oddball I read about lately. A way to ultra short wheelbase. Very goofy compared to a curved seat tube but there's your conversation starter lol. And people who have them seem to really love them.

>>2079400
that's a gem for sure, I had a low-tier GT for a while and it was even pretty fun, those guys knew their shit. Looks like you've got a nice low stump puller gear on there

>>2079401
Reminds me of the Mizutani Seraph Spree i used to have. Only problem I had with it was, it was a small frame, and could no longer ride comfortably with it. Fast as hell on the pavement.

>>2079367
sweet bike. it looks like you've changed the cockpit since last time I saw it? or something looks different, I can't put my finger on it

>>2079420
Probably the angle. But it's been converted to 1x11 with XT linkglide, matching NOS avid arch rivals front and back, nos Control Tech seatpost and I replaced the heavy af motorcycle handlebar with a lightweight riser with more rise. I just need to do the cables on it. Been lazy. I'll post a pic when I get home.

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I couldn't be fucked to bring it outside to take a good picture of it.

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Here's some close up pictures of the NOS 90s goodies I put on it. I can't believe how little I paid for this pair of arch rivals

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NOS BL-M601. I have these "waveservo" levers on most of my bikes.

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This was probably the best deal. It was NOS never installed but someone cut off a bit of the post so the guy just sold it for $40. I couldn't believe it.

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Sorry for attention whoring in the wrong thread. Looking forward to see how this thing works. The decision to go with link glide is because I plan to use this thing for backpacking and I figure a cassette that can handle having it's gears crunched is a good choice. I went with XT only to flex.

>>2079444
cool build anon I bet those brakes could stop a rhino. Good on you for not falling for the "brand new mediocre everything" or "must fuck it up for the sake of dicks" sand traps

>>2079408
never heard of those they look mucho segoi pardner.

>>2079496
small japanese bicycle company from the 70's

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>>2079230
>When the G-line was released i thought it's also a cool bike.
Does it hold up after owning it? I still cant find a reason for it, especially with that weight. Wouldn't you much rather pair the Cline with a MTB and have the best of both worlds without compromise?

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>>2079495
I had just one on the front before and I think they're probably the best you can get before switching to disks. I did my research and found that v-brakes technology peaked obviously right before the mass transition to discs in the 90s.
I tried shimano parallelograms but even the nicest sets would all squeal. I still have a set of br-m739s on my crossroads but they're not long dor that bike. I even overpaid for one of those washer sets shimano sold for that purpose that's supposed to fix it and even that didn't work. So I went with the arch rival. Even the most worn out ones don't squeal. Interestingly though I found that the shimano parallelograms tend to squeal only on the front wheel. I've switched the front and back breaks before and confirmed it's the direction in which the force is applied that seems to cause it. The previous setup of the karakoram was an LX Br-m570 in the back. I had also added a brake booster later on which is going to be the plan front and back for the final version of my Karakoram. I think I'll go for the Shovel Research ones.

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>>2079517
yeah I've never bothered with the parallelograms cuz everybody says they shriek same as you. I will keep an eye out for the avids though. I have some old dia-compe V's on my old 850 with travel agents so I can use the chopper levers, it is butter.
My only problem with V's is that they generally look wrong on 80's bikes, I'd love to get some marinovatives but they're unobtainium. And I couldn't bring myself to buy paul stuff, maybe if I scored it at a swap meet. People have had luck making marinovative copies though, the original prototype was out of aluminum channel so it's quite doable

>>2079432
the post I was replying to was the crossroads, lol. but thanks for the info dump, the GT is very cool, too.
re: arch rivals, I thought those horseshoe brake boosters didn't actually do very much, and then these have a pivot in the middle, what's the strategy on that?

>>2079531
nta but they're levers that keep the pads more parallel to the rim. The OG shimano V brakes had a similar thing but with more problems. IME brake boosters can help a lot but that probably depends on various things. Could be that V's already work well enough that they're not that noticeable. I also wouldn't be surprised if some boosters were sold that aren't stiff enough more as bike jewellery

>>2079272
What are the benefits of front wheel drive? I imagine it's jerkiness, throughout the whole trip, will be more of a drain than the drag of a rear wheel drive's chain.

>>2079544
>jerkiness

wut
I've never ridden a recumbent so I have no firsthand experience to offer. If you examine the chain routing of a typical rear-drive recumbent I think you'll find that it involves at least one or two tensioners and a lot of other nonsense. extra weight, extra drivetrain losses, etc

cruzbikes hold a LOT of world records for a reason

>>2079547
I've never ridden one either. But looking at one instantly makes me think that my arms will have more trouble keeping the bike straight if the full force of my legs is pushing (lopsidedly of course) on the fork.

>>2079548
yeah, I don't know. presumably the geometry is tuned to avoid that sort of thing. on the other hand the >>2079272
guy is AVERAGING 25+mph which presumably entails long periods of time well above that... at those kinds of speeds gyroscopic stability might be all you need

>>2079531
I also used to think it was a brake booster but like the other anon explained that's actually the pivoting mechanism for the linkage that make the pads move in parallel to the rims vs in an arch like a regular v-brake. Brake boosters do make a difference, especially for very strong brakes like these. Go look at the v-brake bosses on your bike when you squeeze the shit out of them. They flex out. Booster eliminates that flex so at the top end of your braking you're delivering all that squeeze to the rim and not losing any to the flex. Really it's overkill for my purposes maybe I'll be happy I have that when I'll be riding down a steep hill eith that bike loaded up with camping gear. I'm also not a light guy. I've had an absolute chinesium booster on that bike and it did its job, idk how bad you have to fuck one up for it to be useless.

>>2079530
Those are sick. I need to try making some. I agree about Vs looking wrong on an 80s bike. If you get good at setting them up I find that cantis work just as well as Vs. To me, making the choice between them is purely aesthetic.

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>>2079531
Oops my bad. I think you saw the newest cockpit, the picture here is old. Still not happy with my cockpit setup. Going to ditch the nitto shred style bars for their carter bar. I need that little backsweep. Also need a new stem, don't like this black one.

>>2079564
>>2079533
got it. thanks guys. I've had a nice old rigid 26" MTB and I swear I'm going to get it rideable one of these days, so I appreciate the info.

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>>2079566
yeah, I fiddled with the cockpit a lot on my city/do-it-all build and ended up with lots of sweep. the bike was issued as a roadie with drop bars. on the grips, I do all my slow riding: getting started from a stop, upright traffic scouting, general casual riding. very stable and easy to steer before the gyroscopic speed stabilizes you. then for "real" riding and laying down power, I just reach forward and grab the extension, which puts my grip at about what the original hoods position was on the drop bar.
I originally had a northroads bar which I liked quite a bit and clamped the old hoods without the levers as the forward grip like how Grant did on the old bridgestone. but they weren't forward enough and when anon showed me the spinacci, I got that but the northroads bar's bends were incompatible with the spinacci. so I switched to current bar, VO Left Bank. it is the perfect cockpit for my use case. I really love it.

>>2079600
I love your setup. I remember this from the multi hand position handlebar thread. We'll see if I'll do this to my Specialized. The goal for it was ultimately for it to be a pretty bike so less function more form. While I do genuinely like how your setup looks I just don't think a forward hand position add on will look right on it but who knows.

>>2079600
Can you post a pic of the whole bike in /pybt/ really curious to see it

>>2079600
I can not really imagine gow the ergonomic grips work with the swept back bars. Aren't they designed with flat bars in mind? Wrists shouldn't do that IMO

>>2079671
Literally all the do is increase the surface area for you to rest your hands on. Why on earth wouldn't it work with swept back bars? Nta

>>2079684
Because those things are molded to to fit and support the palms of hands in a scenario where the arm is at a roughly righg angle to the bars. So to be touchibg the grips as intended anon here would need to either cross elbows or show very strong deviation in the wrist.

>>2079671
the back part of the hand opposite the thumb (the "heel"? not sure) just sits on the beaver tail and it's really comfortable

>>2079707
wait, no, the thumb bulb thing sits in there, I had it mixed up in my head

>>2079668
yeah, I'll go there now, will be up shortly

>>2079118
I still have it. I remember I bought it early 2008 from Italian Ebay for like 300. It was shitty yellow and the paint was chipped. Moved away and didnt take it with me. My dad stripped it down and powder coated it. I bought a cheap 105 set and threw on some flight decks and made it a daily for 4-5 years. Now it sits in my spare room. I do donuts in the driveway now and then when I ride around with my son.

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>>2080149

>>2079533
I instantly cured a shuddering rear v brake with a booster. Alloy no name brand

>>2080151
>flight decks
neat. flight deck is the computer?

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>>2079118
just picked up the preem Panasonic road bike. Been after ones for a bit and these mom and pop resellers didn't know what they had. 80 bucks!!

>>2080226
>2035
>soldered gaspipe with stem shifters

I feel bad for you and them and really just anyone who touches that

>>2080227
I enjoy old(bad) bikes why do you feel bad

>>2080226
it's cool mang garden variety 10 speeds are fun but that sucker is more garden variety than dandelions, if they knew what they had they might've asked for less

just a word to the wise vintage bikes are cheap af these days

>>2080236
i think i just live in kinda a shitty area for resells and im a bit of a sucker :"D but i like throwing dumb money on bikes so not stressing

>>2080227
I genuinely feel bad for you that you don't know how to enjoy things.

>>2080226
>hese mom and pop resellers didn't know what they had. 80 bucks!!
>stem shifters
>5 rear cogs
>centerpull brakes
>turkey wing levers
>gaspipe frame
>steel rims
oh, they knew what they had, all right.

there's nothing wrong with any of the above as long as you enjoy riding it, but thinking you got some big bargain is not what happened, here. you got what it's worth, and only because the paint and parts are mint

>>2080241
it's would probably cost about $600 to turn your $80 bike in to a $10 bike

at the absolute minimum you will need wheels, tires, tubes, brake levers, brake calipers, a cassette, a crankset, real pedals, a saddle, and probably a full cable and housing re-string.

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>>2080247
dawg at most this bike is getting new wheels and pads. This is a bike to ride up and down the block and be pretty.

>tdlr
just have fun :D

>>2080247
I'm not the guy who bought the Panasonic, but it's fun to ride old stuff and see how it used to be. You don't need optimal everything to have fun. Does no one even know what underbiking is anymore?

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>>2080222
Relics from a bygone era

>>2080226
ten bucks says the seatpost is seized in the frame

>>2080252
it moved! By god it moved

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>>2080251
that's confusing because if you google it, Shimano makes a computer with that same name and that's the only one that comes up

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>>2080251
the sideways flick these wanted always freaked me out

>>2080281
thinking of getting a crappy Dynamo light to really tie it together

>>2080282
Google used to be good. Can't find any results for old stuff anymore.

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>>2080226
nice

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>>2080227
I bet you get mad at people for driving older cars too instead of letting their Tesla drive for them.