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One of the first things I learned when I started OJT in the tower was "The most dangerous thing you can do is to let a pilot think for himself".
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quadruple runway incursion
whoops
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>>2084681
funny because one of the most important things to know as a pilot is that at the end of the day you can only trust yourself
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>>2084690
Typical day at JFK desu
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>>2084704
of all the spaghetti I hear spilled on freq on any given day it is 99.9% pilots
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>>2084707
have you considered that is because unlike you sitting on your ass looking at blips on a computer screen, pilots are...flying an aircraft? ATC is great tbf but sometimes you guys sound like nurses saying they are more important than doctors
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ADs issued re: Learjets and icing:
https://services.casa.gov.au/airworth/airwd/ADfiles/over/lj31/99-16-03.pdf
>1999: one-time check for correct wiring of horizontal stab anti-ice wiring
https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2001/02/15/01-3671/airworthiness-directives-learjet-model-45-airplanes
>2001: Learjet 45 shouldn't be flown in icing conditions at all, frequent inspections of anti-ice manifold
Learjet 60 abnormal procedures handbook on inadvertent icing:
>Even small accumulations of ice on the wing leading edge can cause an increase in stall speed and possibly, a degradation in stall characteristics.
>Ice accumulation on the stabilizer can cause deterioration in trim speeds, elevator buffeting, changes in elevator forces, and control column oscillations/pulsing. During flight tests, control column oscillations and pulsing tended to increase in intensity with increases in power. Low speed flight should be approached with care so that detection of abnormal flying qualities can be obtained
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if money is no object, what GA plane are you guys flying?
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>>2084719
im literally a pilot. lets just call it like it is OK, not even up for debate which job is harder and has a higher barrier to entry.

OK but yeah if we isolate out the obvious foreigners and student pilots its probably more like 4/5ths pilots fucking up and 1/5th ATC. KHPN is such a shitshow I got dressed down for not responding when she couldn't even get one character of my tail # correct and I didn't respond. that's like one incident, compared to dozens of pilots just having no idea what's going on
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>>2084783
Husky. Backcountry plane, rated for IFR, certified aircraft, autopilot, variable pitch prop but does 95% of what a Carbon Cub can do in the backcountry. Too bad its like $800,000.

If you said I could count TBM, PC12 or something like that as a "GA plane" sure I'd take one of those. But as far as like regular ol piston singles go that's it.
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>>2084690
>Swiss manages to get airborne just before hitting Delta 29
>landing gear shears through fuselage
>impact arrests their descent
>same things happens to Delta 420, catches the edge of an engine as well
>plows directly into Republic 5752
>wreckage continues on into American 2246
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>training expensive as fuck
>8 billion newly minted pilots and CFIS, more than enough to cover retirements for the future
>job market is already getting shittier

alright dispatching it is for me then
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Redpill me on the V-tail configuration.

Is there stigma attached to it because Beechcraft fucked up the tail design of the V35 Bonanza?
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>>2084861
It's low drag, looks fucking awesome, but gives you a bit less tail authority. The main issue is the parts are horrifically expensive because they don't make them anymore and they're like magnesium or something so you can't repair it so you better be real fucken careful putting it back in the hangar.
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>>2084861
>Is there stigma attached to it because Beechcraft?
yes
>>2084862
are you aware that bonanza is not the only airplane with V-tail?
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>>2084866
I thought he was asking specifically about bonanzas
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>>2084859
If you give up before starting being a pilot was never for you even in a perfect economy anyway
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>>2084789
Yeah but when you fuck up its me whos getting fucked
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>>2084862
this isn't an issue anymore. FAA approved a replacement ruddervator skin. Its definitely not cheap so you don't want to just go slamming your V-tail around, but no longer an existential concern.

>>2084861
if I put you in a double blind taste test between a V-tail and straight tail bonanza where everything else was identical you wouldn't be able to tell me which was which
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>>2084873
it's called not wanting to ruin my life
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>>2084907
>self eliminating
thank you for making space for people who actually want the job
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>>2084907
Personally I'm still gonna go ahead and ruin my life. I can afford to be patient.
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>37 year old khhv legacy FO who has 0 life outside of work besides gym and vidya.

Who’s with me?
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>>2084907
you would literally fail/quit during training. you cannot be a mega bitch and a pilot.
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>>2084941
29 and a regional CA but getting there...
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>>2084941
>>2084962
Youre both virgins seriously? One of my most liked pictures on hinge is me with the plane.
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>>2084941
>flying, gym and vidya
what the hell do you want more? sounds like a great life, enjoy it
(maybe replace gym with an actual sport but that's just me)
pussy is overrated
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>>2084914
you can want the job all you want. but ask the lost decade people how much wanting it makes a difference
>>2084949
no actually it's called making a good judgment call. something pilots seem to be failing at recently, hence all the accidents
>>2084935
you're probably freshly into your 20s i guess which makes sense. i just wouldn't want to fuck up my life timeline and be screwed throughout my 30s
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>>2084990
>you're probably freshly into your 20s i guess
I'm 37 with a wife and kids.
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>>2084990
just keep making more excuses if that makes you feel better about your cowardice, and all the grapes were sour anyway lol
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>>2084990
Bizarre cope paired with a massive chip on your shoulder. I support your decision!
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>>2084990
youre not cut out for this job. Im thankful you decided to be ... dispatch. Which will probably also be too stressful for you but whatever.



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