What's your opinion on E Bikes and the dickheads who ride them?
e-bikes are extremely efficient, low-emission transport that enables many people who cannot afford a car to commute around their communities quickly and efficiently
I would ride one to work if they weren't so difficult and expensive to register and insure legally
I'm an American and I love my e-bike because it's cheaper than car insurance and gas and sometimes I need to actually get places without turning it into some exercise routine
>non-motorized bicycles: always cool>eMotos that are clearly and unapologetically motorcycles, some of which can be plated: also cool, probably the future of cycling >eBikes that have pedals so they can pretend to be a bicycle and then use bicycle infrastructure at 40mph: gay, intellectually dishonest, and for fat people and third-worlder food delivery people
>>2084785I have an even jankier machine and am a deranged loser. Love em. Proper SUHHRONZ and Talarias and so on are a little overpriced for the performance, though. 8k for an electric dirtbike? You can get a gas model for like 2.5 and still feel scammed. Right now, they're not worth it imo. For a normal consoomer you can get a real dirt bike for cheaper, and for doing actual real nigga dirt bike shit, either you're racing and have to have one of a very specific series of models of bike to satisfy the class, or you're a Street Takeover nigger and the value of going BRUM BRUM BBBRBRRBRBRBRBRBR wheeieing about is higher than gas prices.I guess if you're a literal amateur trucking your bike to a track to do some not-so-hard enduro, they have some advantages. But overall, they're overkill for what the people they're selling to are using them for, at around three times the usual price.>>2084800The device in the OP is not a bicycle, has no parts commonality with bicycles, does not have any provision for muscle power other than what you can pick up and heave about, and is at the end of the day just an electric dirt bike and makes no claims otherwise.It's not even like it's an "Illegal Motorcycle" compared to gas ones since gas dirt bikes also don't come with turn signals, windscreens, crash testing, ABS/TCS, or even a place to put a plate. You're lucky when they come with headlights.
>>2084788>so difficult and expensive to register and insure legallyunironically because i have considered getting one and just slapping turn signals and a plate bracket on it -- what was the difficulty?
my honest take on ebikes is that they are marketed in ways that exploit normies' misunderstandings of electronics and heavy electrical systems. everybody be like >MY EBIKE IS A 500000000000000W MOTOR!!!!!!nah nigga. it's rated to do that and not explode. the controller provides 13a before giving up instead of exploding, and the BMS on your battery supplies 10 before giving up instead of exploding. and electrical power is not directly equivalent to ICE engine power so even going "well it's 1000w as per the wattmeter, so...?" doesnt mean it has the same power output as a 1.2hp engine. but still, it can go 45, so what more do you want before you have to start min-maxing shit that is not the motor, battery, or controllerbut cars are marketed much the same way and have the same pitfalls of number whoring nonsense getting in the way of figuring out real-world performance in a market where every model available can still break the speed limit, so whatever.
>>2084800>>eBikes that have pedals so they can pretend to be a bicycleIn actuality it's so you can still use it as a bike when the battery dies. Most pedal assist e-bikes have relatively small batteries in order to strike a balance between weight and range to maximize efficiency. In any case, I've ridden my hybrid e-bike for about 30 miles before the battery died and then rode the 30 miles back home as a normal bike. You can't do that on fully dedicated eMotos
>>2084805>>2084800nothing new under the sun NIGGA second verse same as the SECOND TRUMPET
>>2084806No way that isn't just a kick starter lever that someone just replaced with a bicycle crank arm
>>2084807It has, in fact, been done before.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMjjTK-yZy0
>>2084808I fucking hate canadians so much.
>>2084803Insurance was like 10x the gas bike I ride now and in my country to register it needs to be type approved, like the street legal light bee is twice the price of the non-street version
>>2084800pretty much this
>>2084805nobody really buys that kind, though, except bicycle nerds. fat normies buy the ones he's talking about with a throttle as a way to go 45mph without a license, plate, or insurance
>>2084785You mean electric motorcycles or electric bicycles ? I own the latter and love mine, its awesome not having to pay for gas
>turned on my motor via the buttons on my handlebar, and went up an incline with ecofeels good man
>>2084840did they say WHY it's 10x the price or am i to assume that it's just typical boomer ebike derangement with a little bit of Lithium Fire derangement for spice
>>2084902incorrect. the people buying dumpy slow PAS bikes are aging dentist lycrafaggots whose bodies have deteriorated with age too far to ride that 15,000$ Tr*k under their own power anymore>>2084805it always feels great to kill the engine and electrics on mine and pass some fair weather rider on some overpriced fibreglass piece of shit off the rack from Giant on my 25kg moped just pedalling it alone
>>2084785Beats walkin
>>2084785california limited these to 26 miles an hour because shithead kids kept getting merked. now how am i supposed to go crosscountry without a license?
>>2084807Yeah this guy is a pseudA real pedal moped would have a second chain
E-bikes are cool and the people who actually own one are usually fine. The people that rent one on an app ride like fucking retards every time
>>2085068if you drove you would know this is also true of car share companies. not taxi drivers (though they are also insane) but anyone in a Communauto or UHaul similar is probably a shitter. this is simply an artefact of if someone is renting a vehicle from a service like that, they probably are not very familiar with that particular one, and they probably don't own one themselves to get familiar with the class
>>2084800>idkwtf i'm talking about but it sounds cool and intelligent, the postSo why are class 1 e-bikes 'not cool' based on this arbitrary opinion of yours?
>>2084805He's not talking about restricted german-spec pedelecs. He's talking about those shits, designed explicitly to be electric-powered but with cranks to slip under the regulation blanket. They have 100% unusable cranks, both because of the seating position and because they are almost always short kids' bike cranks, and often with a scooter-like platform so you don't even have to use the cranks to rest your feet on. Most of the time fags riding these take off the pedals, if not cranks and chain entirely.
>>2084840Holy shit just get one with a top speed a little below the legal speed limit
>>2084785They should be made illegal, seized, and dismantled/destroyed. After that we can do the same to their e-bikes.
>>2085111I'd be happier banning this bullshit than worry about someone on a bicycle>that's just the low beams.
>>2085114Bro just wear sunglesses wtf LKMAO
>>2085114>bicycleYWNBAC
