Anonymous Iran standoff could leave Trum(...) 05/02/26(Sat)15:44:14 No. 1511450 https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/iran-standoff-could-leave-trump-worse-off-than-before-he-went-war-2026-05-02/ WASHINGTON, May 2 (Reuters) - More than two months into a conflict that has failed to deliver a decisive military or diplomatic win, President Donald Trump faces the risk that a standoff with Iran will drag on indefinitely and leave an even bigger problem for the U.S. and the world than before he launched the war. With both sides outwardly confident they hold the upper hand and their positions far apart, there is no obvious off-ramp in sight, even as Iran submitted a fresh proposal to restart negotiations. Trump quickly rejected it on Friday. For the U.S. president and his Republican Party, the implications of a continued impasse are grim. An unresolved conflict would likely mean the global economic fallout, including high U.S. gasoline prices, will persist, putting further pressure on Trump, whose poll numbers are falling, and darkening Republican candidates' prospects ahead of November’s midterm congressional elections. >>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)15:44:56 No. 1511453 UNMET GOALS Those costs highlight a deeper problem: the war has failed to achieve many of Trump's stated goals. While there is little doubt that waves of U.S. and Israeli strikes heavily degraded Iran’s military capabilities, many of Trump’s often-shifting war objectives - from regime change to shutting Iran's path to a nuclear weapon - remain unfulfilled. Fears for a more protracted deadlock have grown since Trump called off a trip by his negotiators to Islamabad last weekend and then dismissed an Iranian offer to halt the war, suspended since April 8 under a ceasefire agreement. Tehran proposed setting aside discussion of its nuclear program until the conflict is formally ended and a deal is reached on reopening the Strait of Hormuz. That was a non-starter for Trump, who has demanded the nuclear issue be dealt with at the outset. There was a glimmer of hope on Friday when state news agency IRNA reported Tehran had sent a revised proposal through Pakistani mediators, causing a drop in global oil prices that had risen sharply since Iran effectively closed the strait. Trump told reporters he was "not satisfied" with the offer, though he said there were ongoing contacts by phone. A failure to wrest the vital oil-shipping waterway from Iranian control at the conclusion of the conflict would be a major blow to Trump’s legacy. “He’d be remembered as the U.S. president who made the world less safe,” said Laura Blumenfeld, a Middle East expert at Johns Hopkins University in Washington. White House spokeswoman Olivia Wales said Iran’s "desperation" is increasing due to military and economic pressure, and Trump "holds all the cards and has all the time he needs to make the best deal." >>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)15:45:57 No. 1511456 RESUMPTION OF HOSTILITIES? With his next steps uncertain and no clear endgame, Trump has in private meetings raised the prospect of a prolonged naval blockade of Iran, possibly for months more, aimed at further squeezing off its oil exports and forcing it to reach a denuclearization agreement, a White House official said on condition of anonymity. At the same time, he has left the door open to resuming military action. The U.S. Central Command has prepared options for a "short and powerful" series of strikes as well as for taking over part of the strait to reopen it to shipping, Axios reported on Thursday. European diplomats said their governments, whose relations with Trump have been strained by the war, expect the current situation with Iran to persist. "It's hard to see how this will end soon," said one, speaking on condition of anonymity. Iran has remained defiant. It has exerted powerful leverage against the U.S. and its allies, triggering an unprecedented energy supply shock by choking off shipping in the strait, where tanker traffic flowed freely before the war, carrying a fifth of the world’s oil. Analysts say Iran will be emboldened knowing that it will have this weapon at its disposal even after the war. “Iran has realized that, even in a weakened state, it can shut off the Strait at will,” said Jon Alterman of the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington. “That knowledge leaves Iran stronger than it was before the war." >>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)15:46:57 No. 1511457 URANIUM STOCKPILE REMAINS Trump - who took office promising to avoid entanglement in foreign interventions - has also failed to achieve his main stated aim in attacking Iran on February 28: to close off its path to a nuclear weapon. A stockpile of highly enriched uranium is believed to remain buried following U.S. and Israeli airstrikes last June and could be recovered and further processed into bomb-grade material. Iran says it wants the U.S. to recognize its right to enrich uranium for what it says are peaceful purposes. Wales, the White House spokeswoman, said Trump had "met or surpassed" all military objectives, including action "to ensure that Iran can never have a nuclear weapon." Another of Trump’s declared war goals – forcing Iran to stop support for proxy groups such as Lebanon’s Hezbollah, Yemen’s Houthis and Palestinian Hamas – also remains unmet. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth, in congressional testimony, denied the conflict had become a “quagmire," despite Trump having initially predicted it would be over in four to six weeks. Renewed peace talks are unlikely to yield a quick resolution, given the large gaps. Though Trump has said he will accept nothing less than a long-term solution to the threat posed by Iran, he has at times shown signs of seeking an exit plan from an unpopular conflict. At the request of Trump’s aides, intelligence agencies are studying how Iran would respond if he declared a unilateral victory and pulled back, U.S. officials have told Reuters. Independent analysts say Tehran would interpret that as its own strategic success for having survived the military onslaught. At the same time, European and Gulf Arab diplomats have expressed concern that Trump might eventually agree to a flawed deal that would allow a wounded Iran to remain a threat. >>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)15:47:58 No. 1511458 RISK OF 'FROZEN CONFLICT' With negotiations deadlocked, some analysts have suggested the war could devolve into a frozen conflict that would defy a permanent solution. That could prevent Trump from significantly scaling down forces in the Middle East. The U.S. is already paying new strategic costs. Those include fractures with traditional European allies, who were not consulted before Trump went to war. He has harshly criticized NATO partners for not sending their navies to help open the strait, and in the past week spoke about possibly drawing down troops in Germany, Spain and Italy. Trump also must deal with a more hardline Iranian leadership, dominated by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, that took over after U.S.-Israeli strikes killed several figures, including Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The president's call at the start of the conflict for the Iranian people to overthrow their rulers has gone unheeded. At home, Trump is under pressure to end a war that has dragged his approval rating to the lowest level of his term – 34%, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll – and spiked gasoline prices above $4 a gallon ahead of the midterms, in which Republicans are at risk of losing control of Congress. A second White House spokeswoman, Taylor Rogers, said Trump was committed to maintaining his party's congressional majority and that high gasoline prices were only "short-term disruptions" that would be overcome as the conflict subsides. The Iranians, however, are mindful of Trump’s domestic troubles and may be prepared to wait him out, but the question remains how long they can stave off economic calamity. “Iran isn’t fractured or folding, it’s playing for time,” Sina Toossi, a senior fellow at the Center for International Policy think tank in Washington, wrote on X. >>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)15:54:28 No. 1511461 >>1511450 It literally already has left us worse off. Politically, this cost Trump midterms even more than his economic failures or the Epstein files did.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)16:18:31 No. 1511464 >>1511461 And keep in mind, everything has already been rigged in his favor with gerrymandering, voter suppression and a super favorable senate map.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)16:51:58 No. 1511470 >>1511464 And he's still going to lose because his approval rating is in the fucking 30s.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)17:08:51 No. 1511472 >>1511470 You'd be surprised at what rigging elections can do. Like during the massie blue wave in 2018, Republicans managed to protect 15 seats because of gerrymadnering. And now the Republican supreme court has made racist gerrymandering legal.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)17:43:33 No. 1511474 >>1511464 >gerrymandering, voter suppression and a super favorable senate map >>1511470 >his approval rating is in the fucking 30s it'll be absolutely hilarious if the overzealous gerrymandering ends up amplifying the blue wave and giving the democrats a super-majority Trump may literally stroke out if he hears Congress overrode one of his vetoes>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)17:49:48 No. 1511476 >>1511474 >>1511474 >hilarious if the overzealous gerrymandering As of today the only states to have gerrymandered are New York, California and Virginia. Lets just be honest.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)18:20:07 No. 1511479 >>1511476 its great the people actually having to execute the gerrymander in red states know how risky it is to dilute a narrow red majority, especially when Trump is so unpopular we're watching the Trump parasitically order the GOP to kill itself>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)18:31:21 No. 1511480 >>1511472 If we would simply stick to the simple premise that only whites of European stock are Americans in the first place there would be no need for racist gerrymandering to keep people who don't belong here from voting. They shouldn't even be in the country, and while yes, now they are and we have to deal with that, we brought them in as farm equipment, not to be treated as intelligent and educated people deserving of a vote.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)18:34:38 No. 1511481 >>1511474 >It'd be hilarious if the way things were redesigned made it impossible for anyone but communists, feminists and minorities to ever win another election and the only alternative to brazilification was for Americans to go full fash and murder everyone south of brown if they ever want a reasonable election again Working as intended, Anon, but the outcome isn't going to be a 'blue wave'.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)18:37:21 No. 1511482 >>1511480 >If we were super racist, this current racism wouldn't be problem. Nazis lost the war BTW.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)18:38:18 No. 1511483 >>1511476 Don’t forget Illinois>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)18:38:30 No. 1511485 >>1511482 You don't have to be a racist if all the brown people aren't here, you troglodyte. There's no need to clash with others when you keep them in slave plantations on another continent 3,000 miles away across an ocean, as was properly intended.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)18:40:23 No. 1511487 >>1511480 It’s weird how you use the term “stock”. You shouldn’t do that>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)18:49:23 No. 1511490 >>1511487 >Stock, Noun, is a population or group of organisms that shares a distinct, defining genetic makeup. Jesus Christ, read a book. Alternatively, don't care, didn't ask, fuck off. Faggot.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)19:07:55 No. 1511493 >>1511490 i'm not familiar with whatever debunked nonsense white supremacists are huddling around now what are you citing?>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)19:47:36 No. 1511501 >>1511450 “Could?” How the fuck could it not? This has been a fucking disaster. This entire administration has been a disaster, and it somehow keeps topping itself. That’s why they’re trying to rig the midterms.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)20:06:48 No. 1511503 >>1511490 >alternatively… >bla bla bla, mumble mumble You should not refer to my ancestors as stock like we’re farm animals you piece of shit. Do not do it, I do not like it, I find it offensive>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)20:08:20 No. 1511504 >>1511493 I think he used a dictionary. I told at least one retard to do that yesterday, so good for him I guess it’s a start>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)20:48:36 No. 1511509 >>1511485 >Doubles down on being racist >>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)20:56:52 No. 1511517 >>1511509 That’s his gimmick.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)21:09:33 No. 1511523 >>1511464 >rigged in his favor with gerrymandering Even with the new Florida map it nets zero new GOP seats with California and Virginia's maps. Doing this on top of not having an actual plan to get energy prices down is going to end up hurting the GOP more than helping. Red hatters only care so much about Iran's nukes, gay beer cans, or trans swimmers when they can't buy fertilizer or fill up their trucks.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)21:11:29 No. 1511525 >>1511479 Red states are not actually gerrymandered. As I said, the only gerrymandering we have seen was in NY, VA and CA.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)21:12:41 No. 1511526 >>1511523 >Even with the new Florida map it nets zero new GOP seats with California and Virginia's maps Yes, the extreme democrat gerrymanders have made it hard to compete.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)21:14:30 No. 1511528 >>1511525 >>1511526 Lies.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)21:24:26 No. 1511534 >>1511525 >>1511526 I want you to type out and post that only the Messiah can bring about Zion and that Israel is a false state in accordance to the Talmud and Orthodox Judaism.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)21:25:53 No. 1511536 >>1511534 I dont see what that has to do with the discussion at hand.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)21:44:06 No. 1511553 >>1511523 Are you ignoring all the new gerrymandering republicans are doing now that they can be openly racist again thanks to the republican supreme court?>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)22:04:43 No. 1511560 >>1511450 >Iran standoff could leave Trump worse off than before he went to war No 'Could' about it. Stick a metaphorical fork in him, he's done.>a certain bust Trump has in the Oval Office 'Jaw-jaw, not war-war' -Winston Churchill Clearly not read anything written by him, eh Trumpy? He was a prolific author, who won the Nobel Prize for Literature. The best you can do is a book written by Tony Schwartz.>Clearly not read anything written by him, eh Trumpy? No wonder, as that orange thing is functionally illiterate.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)23:18:13 No. 1511571 >>1511503 Once again, don't care, didn't ask, fuck off. Faggot.>>
Anonymous 05/02/26(Sat)23:37:06 No. 1511579 >>1511571 god you're esl>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)04:43:52 No. 1511612 Most definitely. The problem is, he and the entire Republican Party do not give a shit. Trump could just start looting other Nato countries attacking them, and claim its to pay back what they owe. >>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)05:04:17 No. 1511613 >>1511612 If anyone attacks any NATO member there’s a probability of an invocation of article 5 which requires all members of NATO to defend the member under attack. If the Americans were to do this they’d better be more prepared than they were starting this war with Iran>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)05:36:52 No. 1511614 >>1511613 All US bases could be ordered to stage operations to take leaders hostage, while Trump threatens them all with nukes. Just don't call it a war, and its legal.>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)09:18:46 No. 1511617 >>1511612 MAGA here, we're not going to be doing that. The American Rights problem with Europe is that until very recently Europe didnt take defense seriously. As a result, we have to carry the burden of defending Europe as well as defending our interests in other parts of the world. The rise of China has only made this problem worse. And fyi, it was Obama who started the pivot to the pacific. Its more bipartisan than you think.>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)09:31:55 No. 1511622 >>1511617 You're not american and everything you post is a lie. Trump is weakening nato because he's putin's cocksleeve and nixon was the one who initiated detente with red china>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)10:07:13 No. 1511627 >>1511614 Without looking it up I’m going to just say that kidnapping a leader would be reasonable grounds to invoke article 5. Do you know how many NATO members besides the US have nukes?>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)10:43:31 No. 1511632 >>1511622 >Trump is weakening NATO >not Europeans who underfunded defense for ~20 years >>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)10:45:13 No. 1511633 >>1511632 so are you literally russian or do you just shill for them>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)11:12:43 No. 1511638 >>1511633 >You want Europe to take defense seriously? To invest in large, modern, conventional armies? Literally Kremlin talking points! >>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)11:13:47 No. 1511640 >>1511632 NATO exists to prevent Euros from going back to killing each other like they were constantly doing before it existed. It’s easier to sell people the idea of a global peace keeping force rather than admitting Euros are just that fucking awful.>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)11:35:05 No. 1511643 >>1511638 nothing says taking european defense seriously like threatening to invade greenland>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)11:39:55 No. 1511645 >>1511640 That’s not why NATO exists>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)11:51:13 No. 1511647 >>1511645 It literally is Euros caused both world wars. America had to something to force them to get along or else they’d just go back to killing each other.>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)11:55:19 No. 1511649 >>1511645 you're talking to a russia shill, he will only lie>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)13:09:58 No. 1511657 >>1511647 Literally not why NATO was formed>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)13:36:53 No. 1511658 >>1511643 Trump never threatened to invade.>>
Anonymous 05/03/26(Sun)13:49:19 No. 1511664 >>1511658 god you're esl
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