PRIME MINISTER QUITS INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY TAXING THE RICH

This is the problem coming to every single developed country. America is next. All will decay.

>>1520726
>Conservative leader of the opposition Kemi Badenough wanted Starmer to go
>Nigel FaRAGE thought it would be better for UK if Starmer wasn't PM
>Starmer destroyed Conservatives in 2024 with a massive 400+ seat majority
>FaRAGE's farty... I mean party loses most by-elections since
>Low(e down) liar massively loses by-election to Labour's candidate days ago
>New Labour MP Andy Basedham is almost guaranteed to win. He will guarantee Labour's dominance in UK politics
>those who wanted Starmer to resign
As the old saying goes, be careful what you wish for.

His flayed corpse should be on display in the Tower of London.

When Andy Burnham takes over, he'll be the 7th Prime Minister in 10 years
Larry the Cat has been in Downing Street longer

(Un)Reform(ed)'s Nigel FaRAGE & (Un)Restore(d)'s Low(e down liar) are electorally flayed by white voters ensuring Andy Basedham becomes Prime Minister, and the lolcow shill that is 1520734 is on display being pointed and laughed at in /news/ seething & impotently reduced to fanfics.

>>1520738
Take your meds sweetheart, you're having an episode.

>>1520726
I'm quite surprised Starmer actually was elected considering he's from an ethnic white minority.

>>1520742
kek
But yeah he deserves to be hanged for his complicity in the grooming scandal.

1520741
Says the projecting rightard seething while Labour and their voters are winning.
>meds
Those who support and/or vote Labour don't need 'meds' when schadenfreude is what 1520741 gives by failing.

>>1520726
PMs are like Cleveland Browns managers.

>>1520727
You "tax the rich" tards all have a one track mind. Taxing the rich isn't some magic bullet that will solve every problem.

>I'm quite surprised Rupert Lowe actually was elected considering he's from a subhuman minority
>https://far-rightcriminals.com/far-right-sexual-offences/
>But yeah he deserves to be hanged for his lies about the grooming scandal & hypocrisy. by white rightists
ftfy

>>1520751
There's more evidence of mass rape by Muslims in Britain then there is evidence of mass rape by far right figures in Britain

>>1520750
In the golden years after the war tax taxes for the most wealthy was the highest it ever was.

This is why times were good.
https://files.catbox.moe/i79ib9.png

It won't fix everything but it sure will fix a lot. If they don't have the power to buy up every asset under the sun making everything unaffordable for normal people most things will change.

1520752
https://i.postimg.cc/bNqgpJYH/muslim-rape-gangs-are-just-a-meme.png
>he said it before I'll say it again
>I honestly think that the Muslim rape gangs etc are getting away with so much because they provide TPTB with fresh kids and blackmail material on all of them
>WE NEED TO MEME THIS
>and watch the damage control to see how right we are
>GCHQ this is just a wild conspiracy theory, don't van me for this fiction
>fiction
>https://far-rightcriminals.com/far-right-sexual-offences/
>lies by the Lowe-down subhuman white rightard Rupert, which are rejected by voters in a by-election a few days ago
There's more evidence of rape by white rightists in Britain than there is evidence of mass rapes by Muslims in Britain.
>There's more evidence of mass rape by Muslims in Britain then there is evidence of mass rape by far right figures in Britain
>then
>inb4 "grammar nazi"
Lying foreign shill detected, therefore all its lies & wrong opinions go into the trash
Take your meds sweetheart 1520752, you're having an episode.

>>1520755
This post reminds me of all those times leftoids said the far right commit more violence than any other political demographic in America.
>sources cited: 9/11

I'm reminded of all the times that rightoids said that Muslims commit more violence in America than any other demographic
>sources cited: reality
https://www.csis.org/analysis/escalating-terrorism-problem-united-states
https://homeofficemedia.blog.gov.uk/2019/03/19/factsheet-right-wing-terrorism/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/sep/08/post-911-domestic-terror
https://time.com/3934980/right-wing-extremists-white-terrorism-islamist-jihadi-dangerous/
https://www.npr.org/2015/06/24/417192057/right-wing-extremists-more-dangerous-than-islamic-terrorists-in-u-s

I keep seeing US Trump supporters all wondering about Andy Burnham
Well, put it this way. He's a far left wing lunatic and he's gonna bankrupt & destroy the UK with his woke ideology

>>1520726
I was told by people here that Labor was doing better than ever and that Nigel Farage and Reform was irrelevant
This doesn't seem to follow what I was told.

>>1520747
Why would your leader resign if you're winning?
This is like being a nazi in 1945 saying the Nazis are still winning after Hitler shoots himself in the bunker.

I keep seeing rightards wondering about Andy Basedham.
Well, put it this way, Farage & Lowe are swivel-eyed loons, and superior Labour voters will destroy subhuman rightards and their SJW snowflake shills & their inferior ideology with Prime Minister Andy Basedham.
And he will have authority over that which scans, monitors & intercepts the entire telecommunications network - including the Dark Web, with their encryption-cracking supercomputers - GCHQ.
Be afraid, UK rightards that think they have the right to have wrong opinions. Be very afraid.
Take your meds sweetheart rightoids in /news/ you're having episodes.

>>1520753
You can't tax your way out of hundreds of billions of fraud and pork. The majority wouldn't be against it if the leaks and corruption were fixed first. Higher taxes just punish everyone because the rich never get taxed when we tax the rich, just the middle class

>a rightoid is worried about a new PM who'll make the victory ensured by Starmer in 2024 all the better
>if rightardism is superior, why did (Un)Reform(ed) and (Un)Restore(d) fail a few days ago, and why didn't (Un)Reform(ed) win a 400+ seat majority a couple of years ago?
>it's called an upgrade
Labour keeps on winning, the likes of 1520762 keep on seething.

>When your leader resigns, you win
~Justin Trudeau

>>1520765
>Higher taxes just punish everyone because the rich never get taxed when we tax the rich
I'm fine with hanging people like you outside the estates of the rich until they get the point

>When you have a better leader & PM, you win even more
~Andy Burnham

>>1520770
You retarded troons are so disconnected. The rich don't call you proles, they call you goyim

Take your meds troon 1520772, you're having an episode.

>>1520770
You should probably google what communists did to their own revolutionary stooges once they took power.

>google
>probably
Which means you don't have to Google anything, >>1520770, least of all listen to rightoid liars.

>>1520762
They seem to a think single seat in parliment that was only up for vote because the incumbent resigned in literally that party's most loyal stronghold with a three way split on the vote is a win. But the fact that HUNDREDS of council seats and other PMs changed dosen't mean anything. The Cope is strong with that retard. Lets see how long it takes him to refrence this post without replying to it and swaping around nouns as though he was acoplishing anything.

>swaping
nationality-swapping foreigner detected, lies rejected

esl shill gets real mad when everyone doesn't bow down to rich people

I don't think they understand that normal people aren't submissive peons like they are

Damn bro leftoids got riled up that Starmer resigned

>acoplishing anything
>acoplishing
>inb4 "grammar nazi"
Let's see if this foreign shill accomplishes anything beyond a failed English exam.

>Damn bro rightoids got riled up that Basedham will become PM
Take your meds 1520783, you're having an episode.

When Liz Truss resigned after her 49 days shit show, Andy Burnham was calling for a general election in 2022
Now the cunt is gonna become PM in the same circumstances

Watch them elect someone that says they will fix everything and then import more rapists.

>>1520737
>he'll be the 7th Prime Minister in 10 years


I wonder what happened exactly 10 years ago?

hint: rhymes with exit

stooge Boris(curly)let even bigger stooge Nigel(Moe) control the narrative, while 3rd stooge(Jacob Rees-Mogg) enthusiastically applauded from the sidelines


Brexit departure followed a public referendum held a few years earlier on June 23, 2016, where 52% of the electorate voted to leave the EU.

They've elected someone who will fix everything so white rightists will never have political power and then make rightard hypocrites seethe
>https://far-rightcriminals.com/far-right-sexual-offences/
You love to watch them cope, seethe and die soon

>>1520784
Oh, my mistake. He's going to ignore almost everything I said and pretend one missing letter in a spelling mistake means something, lol.

>>1520750
Better than the shit rich people are coming up with
>What if, now youre gonna love this, trust me, what if, us millionaires and billionaires pay LESS in taxes
>How we gonna afford it? By making YOU pay MORE for healthcare
Elon is a trillionaire now, and it’s still not trickling down

>>1520727
No American elected official will ever resign due to not getting a tax increase passed.

>>1520801
You are confusing tax rates and tax revenue
The government controls the tax rates, not the amount of money coming in.
https://www.investors.com/politics/columnists/thomas-sowell-tax-lies-for-the-gullible/
Each annual "Economic Report of the President" has the history of federal revenues and expenditures, going back for decades. And that is just one of the places where you can get this data. The truth is readily available, if you want it. But, if you are satisfied with political rhetoric, so be it.

Before we turn to the question of "the rich," let's first understand the implications of higher income tax revenues after income tax rates were cut during the Reagan administration.

That should have put an end to the talk about how lower tax rates reduce government revenues and therefore tax cuts need to be "paid for" or else there will be rising deficits. There were in fact rising deficits in the 1980s, but that was due to spending that outran even the rising tax revenues.

Congress does the spending, and there is no amount of money that Congress cannot outspend.

As for "the rich," higher-income taxpayers paid more — repeat, more tax revenues into the federal treasury under the lower tax rates than they had under the previous higher tax rates.

That happened not only during the Reagan administration, but also during the Coolidge administration and the Kennedy administration before Reagan, and under the G.W. Bush administration after Reagan. All these administrations cut tax rates and received higher tax revenues than before.

More than that, "the rich" not only paid higher total tax revenues after the so-called "tax cuts for the rich," they also paid a higher percentage of all tax revenues afterwards

>>1520806
....so do they lube you up before raping you, or do you just enjoy rich faggots raping you unlubed?

Either way I'm not seeing any point to assuming the position so you can be raped

>>1520807
Is the point of taxes on billionaires punishing billionaires or raising money for programs like education? Because if lower the tax rate rich people pay, and they pay more in taxes, that would provide more money for those social programs.
If the point is to punish rich people, the more you charge the less you will receive and these social programs will get less funding.

>>1520811
>If you lower taxes on rich people, they’ll pay more
nigger, we know Trump has paid $0 in taxes for several years

>>1520813
That's an inversion of reality
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/trump-taxes-rachel-maddow-236066
We know that Trump paid $38 million in taxes on $150 million in income. This was revealed on Rachel Maddows show
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/29/irs-charles-littlejohn-tax-prison-trump-00138367
We know the IRS agent who leaked Trumps tax returns. His name is Charles Small Cock, I mean Little John. He was sentenced to 5 years in jail.
We don't have any tax returns from Donald Trump which show he paid 0 dollars in taxes for that year.

>>1520814
https://fortune.com/2020/09/27/trump-paid-no-income-taxes/
https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/12/21/trump-income-tax-returns-detailed-in-new-report-.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_returns_of_Donald_Trump
How do Dear Leader boots taste today?

So anyway, Labour, knowing how badly they have fucked up, told one MP to step down so they coukd bring in a new guy, then made Starmer quit and are trying to push new guy.

>>1520816
>Stamer goes full right wing
>Everyone is pissed
What a mystery!

>>1520815
The New York Times was not as transparent as Rachel Maddow. They seemed to be talking out both sides of their mouth, saying Trump wasn't paying taxes because of his financial assets depricating in value, and how he wasn't paying taxes on his record profits. Which one is it?

>>1520811
>Because if lower the tax rate rich people pay
this is pure semen swilling esl shilling

>>1520819
All that the government can do in reality is change the tax rate. How much tax revenue that will produce depends on how people react. There have been some times when higher tax rates have produced lower tax revenues, and some other times when lower tax rate have produced higher tax revenues.

In the 1920s, for example, the tax rate on the highest incomes was reduced from 73 percent to 24 percent– and the income tax revenue rose substantially — especially tax revenues received from people in the highest income brackets.

In terms of words on paper, the official tax rate was cut from 73 percent to 24 percent. But in terms of events in the real world, the tax rate actually paid — on staggering sums of money previously hidden in tax shelters — rose from zero percent to 24 percent. This produced huge increases in tax revenues received from high-income people, both absolutely and as a percentage of all income taxes collected. That is because 24 percent of something is larger than 73% of nothing.

But none of these facts has made the slightest difference to those who continue to call tax rate reductions “tax cuts for the rich,” even when high-income people end up paying more tax revenue than before. The very possibility that tax rates and tax revenues can move in opposite directions has seldom been mentioned in the media — a crucial error of omission.

>>1520820
Or, alternatively, we just kill rich people and take their money if they refuse to pay taxes.

>>1520820
Tax avoidance is a legislative problem, not an argument for lower taxes. Go swill some more billionaire cum.

You're right they CAN increase total revenue.

You're WRONG to assert from that they generally pay for themselves, they don't and trying to force that based on one example (where there were plenty of other economic factors influencing tax revenue you're conveniently ignoring) makes you a disingenuous snake.

>>1520821
Can you think of 1 time in history this worked long term?
Haiti?
Cuba?

>>1520822
Okay think about it this way. If you are a surgeon who is in the top tax bracket. You're halfway through the year and you already hit the cap. You live in California so the top marginal rate is over 50%. You get $10,000 per surgery. At the start of the year you get to keep 100% of the money, but the more money you earn the less you keep because that is how progressive taxation works (every dollar you make above $50,000 gets charged at a higher rate, every dollar above $100,000 at a higher rate still and so on). In that case a doctor might spend more time at the golf course and less time in the surgery room because he doesn't want to do the same amount of work for half the pay. This doctor could make a million dollars and pay half a million in taxes.
If the state he was living in then reduced the tax burden so the top marginal rate was 33% instead of 50%, the doctor gets motivated he gets to keep 2/3rds of the money instead of 1/2 so he does double the surgeries. Earns 2 million dollars. Pays 660k in taxes.

apparently esl shill has been listening to reagan broadcasts

>>1520825
Okay, but think about it this way.
Some retard decides to steal 1.8 billion dollars from taxpayers
You kill them and give the 1.8 billion back to the government
Thats actually making 3.6 billion, the 1.8 you didn't lose + the 1.8 billion you kept, on top of the satisfaction of killing a retard wanting to steal 1.8 billion from the taxpayers.

>>1520825
So if the tax rate drops to 33% and he doubles the amount of surgeries he does, we make more money in taxes, because we make 660k, not 500k? Wow, I totally didn't understand that already, gee thanks for explaining.

Cool, how much do we make if he only increases his workload 10%? we go from half a million to 363k. So we lose 137,000 dollars?

And that's why you're a disingenuous dipshit, because you're only telling one side of the argument. The Laffer curve, the idea you're talking about, says taxes can be so high reducing them increases revenue. The debate is where that point is, but just arguing that tax cuts automatically increase revenue is retarded.

>>1520817
There is no way you actually belive this bullshit.

>>1520750
> Taxing the rich
The rich can afford to leave the UK to avoid being taxed, and are doing so in droves, reducing the UKGOV tax income.

The reason the current UK population is shrinking is because so many brits are leaving they are outstripping the arrivals by rubber boat.

labour policies are destroying the hospitality industry, pubs and restaurants can no longer afford to employ staff, and the cost-of-living increases mean no-one has the money to go out.

Investors are avoiding the UK and investing in businesses elsewhere.

>>1520838
it's a football, i chiseled it

>>1520838
>MIGA retard confused that liberals cheer on leeches self deporting

1520800
>Oh, my mistake
In existing
1520816
So anyway, Labour, elected with a massive 400+ seat majority won with a previous MP, and a new MP with a large majority will be even better.
>in both cases, by the will of the people: and so many white voters electing white MPs who have/will become PM can't be wrong
It's no mystery.

>>1520830
>Rightoid seething that people are figuring out their crooked game.

>>1520843
Thanks for admitting you are stupid and should be ignored.

>>1520793
these 3 stooges aint funny they wrecked England

>>1520726
Good. Next guy'll be the same though.

there are two stooges that have wrecked England: Nigel Farage, and Rupert Lowe, thus white voters have wrecked them in a by-election last week by ignoring their wrong opinions & lies.
speaking of wrong opinions & lies that are ignored, stupid rightoid 1520844 is rekt as a result of last week's by-election result. and will be again by an inevitable leadership election result.

>>1520726
Okay. Next guy'll be better, though.

>>1520765
>>1520750
>>1520838
>leave
>the rich never get taxed when we tax the rich, just the middle class
The rich always say they'll leave and then they don't. If you take their shit what are they gonna do?
Leave all their shit? Good, most rich contibute nothing and hoard capital and have for 50+ years.

>>1521012
Did you ever visit Cuba?
Did you ever watch movies depicting New York City during the 1970s when all the rich left?
Detroit used to be motor city, one of the richest cities in America between 1944 and 1972 they submitted bids to host the Olympics 8 times. It's not an Olympic tier city anymore

>>1521012
It was shown that all the whining about leaving NYC because of Mamdami's taxes were lies

Its funny watching ESL shill pretend the rich leaving is a bad thing, when they're not guzzling billionaire semen they're claiming that removing leeches will save America

>>1521018
The Labour government is about to nationalize British Steel. From it's current owners Jingye.
When even a company in China can have their steelmaking assets in another country become state owned, there's less than fuck all that billionares can do about anything.
Can you make Xitter exist in China, 'trillionaire' Elongated Muskrat? When even that much wealth can't buy that, billions mean nothing. You can't even buy a functioning dick, Elol.

>>1521018
>pretend the rich leaving is a bad thing
This nigger doesn't know what East Berlin was like.

>>1521042
Kind of based to steal it from China. They won't though because China will just bribe them not to.
Along with importing millions for browns to uphold pension schemes for countries so terrible to raise children in not even the imports want to reproduce.
This is modern politics in the euroshit lands.

>pretending that billionaires can take their production facilities with them
Just ask Li Ganpo. He's gonna have a hell of a time personally trying to lift those blast furnaces, the surrounding buildings etc in Scunthorpe and carry them all the way to Beijing.

>>1521048
>China will just bribe them not to
Just like $300 billion paid to Iran by an orange Cheeseburger Eating Surrender Monkey: and Iran still has their nuclear facilities.
An orange billionaire could always pay $300 billion to algae.

>>1521050
>oh shit, the communists are thinking about killing billionaires
>let me just pick up my laptop, fire all my employees here and then set up shop somewhere else
Wow that was hard

...and HM Government still has the steelmaking facilities that are impossible to remove, and rehires all those previously fired.
>in the past, Reagan's Poodle Thatcher privatized the previously state owned British Rail. Decades later, a Labour PM ensures it's renationalization by denying certain private companies of their right to own those separate rail companies by not allowing them to renew their franchises. It's one of the reasons why that policy was an election winner
A new PM will become even more popular by ensuring British Steel is exactly that: British.
>Wow, that was easy - Andy Burnham PM

Yes, yes we know lefties are completely retarded, that is the only way they cam believe the insane shit that comes out of their mouths. Good thing reality has a sanity bias.

>>1520753
>It won't fix everything but it sure will fix a lot. If they don't have the power to buy up every asset under the sun making everything unaffordable for normal people most things will change.
It will fix nothing because there's nothing left to tax. All the fat has been trimmed already.
Any excess taxes will simply be passed down the line because the US has a consumerist economy. No one makes anything and almost no one owns businesses.

>we
Hi foreign shill 1521137
Yes, yes, so many white voters know rightoids are completely retarded, that is why they voted Labour two years ago and in a by-election last week due to lies coming out of rightards' mouths. Good thing reality has an insane rightard opinion-destroying bias.
>that is the only way they cam
>cam
>inb4 "grammar nazi", "context" etc
That is the way others can know you're the lolcow of /news/, with your educational inferiority due to being an esl shill.

>>1521165
https://youtu.be/2vLqGQFeGuU?is=XKF7fkouq3tuMEhQ


>inb4 t- this is just more rightoid lies!

lol

>>1520726
he finally is gone. NOW get rid of the ESL shills you imported from the Middle East, and disband OFCOM and stop this age verification nonsense so that way other countries will follow and stop making ESL shill loving ai participate in mandatory doxxing of everyone.

liggy miggy piggy lolcow of /news/ 1521186 has as much relevance as (Un)Reform(ed) and (Un)Restore(d) now made irrelevant by a by-election last week.
And will never beat the proven educationally inferior esl shill allegations.
lol
Andy Basedham will let OFCOM continue, and enforce age verification (which will encourage other governments to do the same), and have authority over GCHQ to find those rightoids who commit thoughtcrime.

Q: How can you tell when a rightoid is being deceitful?
A: They exist

>>1521204
Take your meds dearie.

Those who vote for/support Labour don't need meds, but the likes of 1521237 do for projecting, seething, coping & dying soon
Those who aren't rightards are getting schadenfreude from those who are.

>>1521252
>>1521204
KEK, LMAO EVEN. You terminally online shills don’t get it, do y’all? the rules of the internet state that censorship eventually comes for those who weaponize it if there’s not enough pushback. It doesn’t just stop at things you don’t like. You have been warned ;)

1521302
Take your meds, terminally online dearie.