House Republicans also attached a voter-identification provision to the measure, eroding some Democratic support. Democratic leaders urged their caucus to vote against the bill.

President Donald Trump has been pressing Congress to approve the SAVE America Act, which would impose voter-ID and proof of citizenship requirements on voters across the U.S. The measure lacks support to clear Congress.

The stock trading bill with the voter-ID mandate included now advances to the Senate, where most bills require 60 votes to overcome a filibuster. Its fate in that chamber is unclear.

A 2012 federal law already makes it illegal for members of Congress to trade on inside information, but the penalties associated with that law are weak and rarely, if ever, enforced.

The legislation voted on Wednesday, introduced by Rep. Bryan Steil, R-Wis., would bar members of Congress from buying individual stocks while in office, but would not require them to divest their existing investments in individual company shares. It would also allow members to sell parts of their portfolio, provided they publicly disclose their intent to sell at least seven days before.

The bill would also increase penalties for members who fail to properly disclose sales of stock, assessing fines of $2,000 or 10% of the value of the transaction, whichever is greater. The current penalty for disclosure violations is $200 for first-time offenders.

“I think it’s really important that we tell the American people we’re done allowing members of Congress to be day-trading stocks,” Steil said in an appearance on CNBC’s “Squawk Box” on Wednesday ahead of the vote. “Let’s remove even the appearance of impropriety that any given trade is based on any inside information an individual may gain while serving in Washington.”

>>1525064
>House Republicans also attached a voter-identification provision to the measure
For fuck's sake.

Two birds with one stone

>>1525067
Get mad, faggot. If I need an ID to buy a gun then you need an ID to vote.

>>1525074
god

>>1525074
Good comparison. A state ID is enough to buy a gun. It's not enough to vote under the shit Trump's pushing.
They want to make it easier to buy a gun than vote. That's fucking insane.

>>1525074
Voter ID is fine. But only if everyone is auto registered to vote, the IDs are paid for by a tax on the rich, and mailed to everyone free of charge.

>>1525064
A step in the right direction, but it's lobbying that's the real problem.
>>1525079
To be fair, a shitty voter, such an unapologetic liggeral scumbag, is more dangerous than any gun.

>>1525087
>a shitty voter, such an unapologetic scumbag
So MAGA.

>>1525080
>the IDs are paid for by a tax on the rich
Who do you think pays the taxes of the rich? The rich or their consumers?
What a faggot-brained piece of bullshit you are.
Punitive taxes are fucking retarded and the only tool Democrats recognize with the vast regulatory powers of the government.
Simpleminded doesn't even begin to describe my disdain for the liggeral midget-brained homosexual.

>It becomes illegal for Congress to buy stonks
>suddenly their cousins and nieces all buy the stonks that are about to go to the moon
This is performative at best

>>1525079
>They want to make it easier to buy a gun than vote. That's fucking insane.
Not really.

>>1525080
>Voter ID is fine. But only if everyone is auto registered to vote
Define "everyone".

>>1525090
>>1525105
Everyone in America since they should all be legal now. And the rich pay for it.
It's just that simple.

>>1525080
>But only if everyone is auto registered to vote, the IDs are paid for by a tax on the rich, and mailed to everyone free of charge.
If you're so fucking poor that you can't afford the once-in-a-lifetime purchase of $12 dollars for an ID then you don't deserve to vote. And don't even start crying to me about muh rights when you faggots charge us for the right to own a gun in some states and call it legal. Especially when you have the ATF just changing rules on a fucking whim without congress approving it like they did with pistol braces.

>>1525112
>If you're so fucking poor that you can't afford the once-in-a-lifetime purchase of $12 dollars for an ID then you don't deserve to vote.
The ID you're suggesting wouldn't let you vote. And also fuck you.

>>1525114
>The ID you're suggesting wouldn't let you vote.
So how much do these REAL IDs cost then?

>And also fuck you.
No fuck you. You're perfectly fine with me paying hundreds of dollars to get a fucking ID card that says I'm allowed to own a shotgun or carry a pistol. So you too can take your fatass to the DMV, on your own personal time, and pay out of your pocket for a right.

Or you could just stop being anti-gun pieces of shit and drop all licensing requirements for firearms, and then I'll meet you halfway and drop the voter ID requirements... but then what would the democrat party stand for if not disarming non-criminals?

>>1525117
REAL ID also wouldn't let you vote.
>b-but guns!!
Okay. Fuck you.

>>1525118
>REAL ID also wouldn't let you vote.
Are you going to quit stalling and tell me how much it's going to cost to vote? Or just admit you don't know?

>Okay. Fuck you.
Fuck you harder.

>>1525097
>Suddenly their nieces and nephews all buy the stonks that are about to go to the moon.
>We subpoena their communication records.
>We fired the congressperson, and imprison them and their niece/nephew for breaking the law and essentially stealing from all of us.
That's the correct order of operations. I don't know if we'll get there, but this is what we should be threatening/demanding with pitchforks and torches.
Your blase passivity and defeatism piss me off, these people are scum and they're nakedly exploiting you. Don't just lay down and die for them, stupid fucking peasant.
>>1525105
NTA, but legal US citizens who have registered to vote.
Voter ID is retarded. There are already checks and balances that prevent people from voting fraudulently. You have to prove your identity when you register, and they will compare your name to the rolls. Voter fraud is not happening at any significant rate, and requiring IDs wouldn't increase detection or even prevent potential fraud, it would just mean the fraudster would need a fake ID.
If you dumb bastards want to require presenting an ID, then you need to make sure every registered voter gets an ID at no cost to themselves. Otherwise that's a poll tax, that's unconstitutional. If they did, I'd be fine with that, except for that would fuck up mail-in voting. Which is funny, because of the microscopic amount of attempted voter fraud, mail-ins are the majority of cases. So you'd ether deliberately disenfranchise voters, or spend a shit ton of money fixing the smallest part of a problem that essentially does not exist.

>>1525119
Stalling? You're demonstrating that you don't fucking know what you're talking about. Gonna admit that?
The most accessible form of proof of citizenship for most citizens is a passport. The fees for that put together can be around $200, though that price and if you can get one at all varies from state to state.

>>1525121
>You have to prove your identity when you register, and they will compare your name to the rolls. Voter fraud is not happening at any significant rate, and requiring IDs wouldn't increase detection or even prevent potential fraud, it would just mean the fraudster would need a fake ID.
>If you dumb bastards want to require presenting an ID, then you need to make sure every registered voter gets an ID at no cost to themselves. Otherwise that's a poll tax, that's unconstitutional.
Also this.
The point of this is so less people vote. That's it. Because the more people vote the more Republicans lose and they know it, because this in particular would disenfranchise more Democrats than Republicans, and because they don't even want a democracy to begin with.

>>1525122
>Stalling? You're demonstrating that you don't fucking know what you're talking about. Gonna admit that?
So you don't know what the cost will be. Thank you for admitting that.

>The most accessible form of proof of citizenship for most citizens is a passport.
lol which NOBODY uses to vote because that would be ridiculous. Trying to conflate this with a voter ID is retarded fearmongering at it's best. Funny enough some of the articles I'm looking at are showing around that price range, but they do so by adding in additional factors like the cost of gas to drive to the DMV, money lost from taking time off work etc. - factors that oddly don't apply when we're talking about the requirements to purchase a permit for a firearm. Funny how that works.

Odds are more likely you'll pay around the same cost as a non-driver's ID, which varies by state (God bless NY for being the most expensive, along with several other blue states. Yay socialism!). And you're not buying a birth certificate every single time, so don't even try to add that cost. There is NOBODY in this country that can't afford that. Even the poorest motherfucker in America can make that in one day. You have no excuse.

>>1525128
>So you don't know what the cost will be. Thank you for admitting that.
Did you type this before reading the next line of that post?
>llol which NOBODY uses to vote because that would be ridiculous.
Jesus fucking christ. Yes, retard, it would be, and that's why SAVE is bad.
Is this a roundabout way of admitting that yes, you don't fucking know what you're talking about? I'm not giving you more (You)s. This level of arrogant ignorance is unbearable.

>>1525131
>Jesus fucking christ. Yes, retard, it would be
Okay prove it bitch. Show me a valid source that shows voter IDs... Just the IDs, not adding the cost of the fatburger you're missing out on because you had to make time for the DMV like an adult... costing around $200. Go ahead. I'll wait.

>>1525128
>Nobody in America can't afford this unconstitutional poll tax. I wipe my ass with the constitution, I'm a retarded miga faggot!

Yep.

>>1525122
>passports are the most accessible form of voter ID, people wouldn't just use their ID and ssc or birth certificate.

Are you a plant? Here's the retarded liberal faggot. Truly both sides have their fucking morons. Why would you make that argument, it's obviously false and hurts your credibility, arguing disingenuous cherry-picked bullshit is what they do.

It doesn't matter what the cost is. A poll tax is unconstitutional. If you're going to be a disingenuous dipshit, go put on a red hat.

>>1525136
>My poll tax is good! Your poll tax is bad!
>It's only okay when WE do it!
I'll drop mine when you drop yours.

>Why would you make that argument,
LMAO it's cute how you have to help your boyfriend out.

I want to curb stomp the fucking poll tax argument.
That's not a believable argument at all and anyone who uses it should be kicked directly in the fucking nuts for being a facetious little fucking prick.

>>1525136
I like answering their questions when it makes them look dumb. Which is often. Maybe you're right, though.

>>1525142
EVERY FUCKING STATE THAT REQUIRES ID TO VOTE CURRENTLY OFFERS FREE VOTER ID.
Thanks for not fucking listening. I'll continue to hear about this retarded fucking horseshit poll tax crap that you already know is bullshit in the fucking future and wonder why in the fuck Democrats need to constantly run bullshit scams that appeal to retards and will be repeated virally by every fucking retard Democrats trick into believing their utter fucking bullshit.

>>1525145
>EVERY FUCKING STATE THAT REQUIRES ID TO VOTE CURRENTLY OFFERS FREE VOTER ID.
We're not talking about current ID requirement.

>>1525147
Can you send me your address so I can kick you in the fucking nuts please?
Poll tax horseshit is stupid and you don't even believe it. You're just scared about losing elections.
Please just be straight with me and say you're worried that Democrats cheat, but you desire power anyway.

Well shit this whole thing got derailed now.

>>1525142
When you're done sucking your new bf off, maybe you can answer my earlier post and provide a source for voter ID costing $200. I'm still waiting.

>>1525139
I know, accountability is a wild concept for right wing retards, huh?
>>1525139
>>1525145
>seething faggots project.
>Every state that requires voter ID offers free voting ID.
Cool. So maybe the point is to pass these laws before the midterms to disenfranchise voters, but if you don't like this argument you're welcome to address any of the others for why voter ID is retarded.
>seething faggot noises
No, you literally cannot argue with anything that isn't a strawman? I know, that's what happens when you're a moron with an indefensible worldview.
>>1525142
I mean you didn't do that, you answered their questions in a way that made you look dumb and undercut your entire argument.
You lost that argument. You handed these fucking broken clocks a win. Learn from that and do better.

>>1525156
If Republicans were really doing this in good faith, they're do what Magaziner said about actually banning stock trading and not putting in poison pills, like yet another voter suppression bill.

>>1525160
>I know, accountability is a wild concept for right wing retards, huh?
I'm sorry, what was that in reference to?

>>seething faggots project.
lol you're conflating two different posters, genius.

>>1525162
If you were posting in good faith you'd back up your bullshit claim that voter IDs will cost $200 with some kind of evidence.

>>1525160
If you say so. These fucking broken clocks act like they won no matter what.

>>1525165
No genuis, you're both faggots seething, I know you're different.

And they all but admitted they lost, I know you're desperate to hang on to this win, doesn't happen often for you, but you can stop beating this dead horse, no sane fucking person on any end of the aisle thinks voter IDs will cost 200$. They were arguing in bad faith.

Do you want to engage any other part of the argument? No, you're just gonna repeat this shit and deflect?

>>1525162
See, they probably would have found a different pivot anyway, but you gave them a foothold, and an especially sturdy one in the mind of a miga moron. You did this.

>>1525171
I don't put much stock on the mind of a miga moron. But alright, alright, fine, I'll be more careful.

>>1525172
*pat pat*
Remember what makes us different than them. Don't let these morons drag you to their level and beat you with experience.

>>1525171
>No genuis, you're both faggots seething,
... okay. *shrug*

>And they all but admitted they lost, I know you're desperate to hang on to this win, doesn't happen often for you, but you can stop beating this dead horse, no sane fucking person on any end of the aisle thinks voter IDs will cost 200$. They were arguing in bad faith.
Well I guess I'll let you bail out your little fucktoy since he's too cowardly to speak for himself after being called out. Besides I've got more important things to do.

>Do you want to engage any other part of the argument?
Such as? My whole thing from the very beginning of this thread was that if you can put a cost to exercise a right, the 2nd amendment, then you can require one to vote as well. Now you can cry and scream unconstitutional all you want, I'll give it as much consideration as democrats do every time they pass another feel-good gun law that accomplishes nothing.

>>1525175
They were wrong. They acknowledge and accepted it. They are learning and growing from it.

Again, I know it's a foreign concept to a narcissistic faggot like you, but that is the path to self improvement, and it is brave, not cowardly.

>if you can put a cost to a right
I mean, firearms are tools for killing and need to be regulated and controlled, those aren't the same at all, but I'll accept your premise for the sake of argument.

You don't have to pay for second amendment rights dipshit. You have the rights outlined in our laws whether or not you have guns. You pay for the guns. If this is your "whole thing" then your argument just crumbled.

You aren't going to admit it though, because you're a coward, unlike fucktoy there. Probably why you're a right wing closet case too. I bet that's why you're so agitated, why you gave me such an easy win here, you're hoping I'll fuck you. Gross.

The arguments I was referring to were the fact that there are other checks in place, and this wouldn't address mail-in fraud, which is where the majority of fraud attempts happen, I said all of this earlier, but I don't even need those to beat a broken clock.

>>1525177
>I mean, firearms are tools for killing and need to be regulated and controlled,
Except they don't work. This is why places like Chicago are warzones.

Now watch, you're going to pull up another gun violence by state chart that's going to have places like Montana at the very top because it includes suicide in their statistics. I'm calling it now.

>You don't have to pay for second amendment rights dipshit.
But that's wrong you fucking retard. Go to Illinois and buy a gun without a FOID card. Just a simple shotgun will do, nothing fancy.

>You aren't going to admit it though,
Because you're wrong.

>The arguments I was referring to were the fact that there are other checks in place,
Yeah I don't care about that argument. In fact, I'll go a step further and concede that maybe fraud isn't that big of a deal.

So what? That doesn't change my stance. If you can charge a fee for my rights I can charge a fee for yours. We'll just keep doing this tit for tat.

>>1525067
Poison pill. They know that the Dems will fight that every step of the way, so they can go to the media like "THE CORRUPT DEMOCRATS LOVE INSIDER TRADING"

>>1525171
Nah, they're just making shit up. Don't fall for it.

>>1525134
There is no such thing as a "voter ID" and wouldn't be under SAVE. It demands proof of citizenship but doesn't give you any new ways to do that. Most Real IDs do not meet the standard it requires, so they're out. Passports meet the standard.

>>1525074
Not the point, you fucking retard. Republicans who want to be able to keep insider trading, like your president and his cronies, are doing classic political swamp shit by attaching a completely unrelated partisan provision intended to make it less likely for the bill to pass.

If you want voter-id then pass a voter id bill you soulless golem. That said, >>1525097 is correct and you >>1525121 are hopelessly deluded if you think that you can vote for the royalty to hold themselves accountable. These people become congressmen specifically so that they can do shit like insider trading. It's one of the primary perks of the job and you're naïve to the point of stupidity if you think they're going to choose to reduce their paychecks.

It's about as likely as them deciding to hold one another accountable for receiving bribes. It's never going to happen; we're decades past the point of being able to vote ourselves back to having a functional government.

>>1525183
Says who? I need to see a source on this myth.

>>1525104
let my dog vote to legalize cannibalism in sanctuary cities then. he's got a voter ID you can't see or check it though

>>1525193
You know this might just work.
We need to replace ICE with Haitian cannibals right now.
I bet being cannibalized would deter many illegals from coming here.

>>1525109
So all the illegals should be rewarded with citizenship? Show your nose right now.

>>1525200
We shouldn't have anyone like that left. Are you telling me conservatives are incompetent?

bottom line: bill does a litle bit of good, so Dems are against it because it doesn't do a LOT of good.

Why are Democrats in favor of corruption?

>>1525179
both sides love insider trading, but only the Democrats hate voter ID.

gee ... wonder why ...

>>1525213
>>1525214
Awww, did widdle rusfags shitty apartment get bombed?
You're super rustled today, shill

>>1525215
They're also seething because trump reveal he conspired with them, again, in the 2020 election in his big speech defaming everyone possible.

>>1525218
>>1525215
When the paid shills start schizo posting

>>1525219
Board status?
https://files.catbox.moe/3udcne.jpg

>>1525198
think of all the cat lives that'll be saved.

>>1525178 #
>Go to Illinois
Fuck no.
>Cites specific state law, moving goalposts like a disingenuous piece of shit.
Cool. So in most states you don't need a license to own a gun. In my state you don't even need one to conceal carry.
Under FEDERAL LAW, not some shitty state, if two people are residents of the same state, neither is a firearms dealer, and the recipient isn't legally barred from owning a firearm, there is no background check or paperwork required. I can give my nephew a gun right now, and it's legally his.
So again you fucking retard, you do not pay for second amendment rights even though your fuck-ass state imposes state fees, you pay for the state fees and the gun, not the right baked into our constitution. You do not pay for rights period, and your dogshit argument is dead.
>Because I'm wrong
Yeah, I fucking know, I called it you retarded faggot. You know what, no, you've never been wrong in your life, it's everyone else whose wrong. Why don't you buy some gun rights and kill yourself you fucking narcissist, you're way too 'right' for this world.

>>1525274
The ID is a state fee too

>>1525122
Do you have any data on how ID disenfranchises Democrats more than Republicans that isn't feelings?

>>1525274
>paying state fees for a voter ID is a poll tax
>paying state fees for a firearms license isn't infringement
Once again... "It's only okay when WE do it!!!"

>>1525278
I have data on the enormity of esl shills faggotry
Is that useful? Or do you already know you're a faggot?

>>1525278
>ID
Proof of citizenship.
One of the ways you can provide proof of citizenship under SAVE is providing your birth certificate, but only if your current name matches the one on it. If you've changed your name then too bad. Two demographics that often change their name are married women and trannies, and both women and especially trannies lean more towards Democrats than Republicans.

>>1525279
Those are two different things, retard.

>>1525282
>One of the ways you can provide proof of citizenship under SAVE is providing your birth certificate, but only if your current name matches the one on it. If you've changed your name then too bad. Two demographics that often change their name are married women and trannies, and both women and especially trannies lean more towards Democrats than Republicans.
Bullshit, you fucking retarded fucking scammer.
The SAVE act instructs states to create a path for this specifically.
Set your stupid fucking ass on fire you fully propagandized piece of absolute shitty misinformation.

>>1525286
>The SAVE act instructs states to create a path for this specifically.
Yeah man just figure it out. Fucking bulletproof.

>>1525287
It's not like it's hard since a legal name change requires legal paperwork.
Are you really this fucking dumb that you fall for every activist trick?

>>1525288
It is the liggeral curse to be dragged around by the balls like a fucking retard afterall.
>>1525287
>Poll tax bullshit without evidence or precedent?
Denied.
>Married or trans won't be able to vote, without evidence or precedent?
Denied.
>Credibility?
Zero.
Liggerals, everyone. Piggies to the end.

>>1525288
>It's not like it's hard
If I had a dollar for every time some MAGA retard said this only to be proven wrong, I'd be one of the billionaires sucking this country dry. Yeah, anon, I'm sure it'd get done lickety-split, day one. The government's so well known for being quick and efficient, after all.

>>1525289
None of that's true.

>>1525292
Of course none of thats true.
You can almost write off everything that esl shill shits out as a lie

>>1525292
I love how you're crying so hard about having to do basic adult shit.

>>1525292
Shut up tard. Sick of this bullshit.